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July 10, 2017, 05:58:44 PM
I don't think so my reasons are,,,first the government use the money realized from it for special duties and payment of salaries again for the maintenance of infrastructures and all that...secondly most countries budgets do come from their taxation. So its cool for a country or group of people to pay taxes
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July 10, 2017, 05:26:54 PM
Not paying the tax is theft according to me. Whatever government is collecting on the name of tax is being utilized for us - Roads, parks, corporations etc. Taxation is for the betterment of society, so lets all pay it fairly without escaping from it.
Is the government accountable for the way the taxes are spent, i think not, Most of the taxes are given to other countries as aid, whiles we have our own citizens in need of aid as well, we should prioritize on how we spend the taxes of the people if it doesn't benefit them in the long run.
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July 09, 2017, 10:38:34 AM
In our country they think tax is a redistribution of income, sometimes it feels like theft.
legendary
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July 09, 2017, 07:50:26 AM
If taxes gave you value for your money it would be voluntary.



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July 09, 2017, 06:30:40 AM
Not paying the tax is theft according to me. Whatever government is collecting on the name of tax is being utilized for us - Roads, parks, corporations etc. Taxation is for the betterment of society, so lets all pay it fairly without escaping from it.
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July 09, 2017, 03:41:09 AM
The rulers came up with such a law to take away some of the money from people under the guise of taxes and very often use this money for their own purposes. Previously, people were slaves and worked for their masters, and in the modern world, slaves pay taxes.
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July 09, 2017, 03:25:12 AM
It does not matter what the money is spent on.

Are taxes voluntary in any country?

Making taxes voluntarily won't work. Because if that is implemented, then a section of the population will be subsidizing the others. Either there should be no taxes, or everyone should pay the taxes.

A section of the population already subsidizes others through taxes, since there's no proportional contribution based on services used.  Those that use government services usually contribute the least, and those that use the least contribute the most.  It's the nature of the game...it's a forced wealth transfer, with the government keeping some for themselves.  Ultra wealthy get to loop hole their way out of paying what would normally be perceived.
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July 08, 2017, 10:25:47 PM
It does not matter what the money is spent on.

Are taxes voluntary in any country?

Making taxes voluntarily won't work. Because if that is implemented, then a section of the population will be subsidizing the others. Either there should be no taxes, or everyone should pay the taxes.
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July 08, 2017, 10:22:45 PM
Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
Stealing is an unethical, cultural act. Many find ways to escape the tax. As your income grows you should pay a tax as required by law. At present, many state agencies seek to circumvent the law and tax evasion. This is not really a good thing to be serious.
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July 08, 2017, 10:11:29 PM
Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

I think from what I have see and read online the IRS technically can't tax you because they are federal, but the local/state can since they directly represent you. Though good luck challenging that, it won't work lol.
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July 08, 2017, 08:40:08 PM
Taxes are a hidden kind of theft that legally obliges all citizens to pay money. But when citizens need help in trouble, the state in some countries will not even think of helping someone who for many years has been paying taxes for being thrown out.

You cant just blindly claim that taxes = theft; you shouldn't generalize not only in this topic but also in every topic.

It's different for every country and for every government. Taxes are and should be used to pay for economical, government property issues, etc. Not because alot of country's governments are corrupt, it doesn't mean that all of them are. I like to be optimistic and think that there are a few national governments out there that are actually using tax money good and right. 

It does not matter what the money is spent on.

Are taxes voluntary in any country?
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July 08, 2017, 01:32:08 PM
Taxes are a hidden kind of theft that legally obliges all citizens to pay money. But when citizens need help in trouble, the state in some countries will not even think of helping someone who for many years has been paying taxes for being thrown out.

You cant just blindly claim that taxes = theft; you shouldn't generalize not only in this topic but also in every topic.

It's different for every country and for every government. Taxes are and should be used to pay for economical, government property issues, etc. Not because alot of country's governments are corrupt, it doesn't mean that all of them are. I like to be optimistic and think that there are a few national governments out there that are actually using tax money good and right. 
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July 08, 2017, 01:13:05 PM
Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

In my own opinion, taxation in any sense is not a form of theft because all the money came from the taxes if for the improvement of the city or of the country as a whole, it is also used to pay ones country's debt in the world bank. The only thing bad about taxes is when the politician monopolizes taxes for self interest and gain, that can be said as a theft because he robbed the money we pay for our own country
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July 08, 2017, 09:06:45 AM
Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

Tax is not a form of theft because it is use to improve the city and lessen the debt owned by the country. It will be considered theft if the ones who collected the taxes use it for personal gain, only corrupt polition take granted for the taxes paid by us
Only you left out the fact that if the government will use all collected taxes on purpose that the state has no debt. Have you seen one poor Minister? In power there's no poor people, and must be so to the poor was not at all. Then taxes and debt will not.
legendary
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July 08, 2017, 08:32:22 AM
Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

Tax is not a form of theft because it is use to improve the city and lessen the debt owned by the country. It will be considered theft if the ones who collected the taxes use it for personal gain, only corrupt polition take granted for the taxes paid by us

Are taxes voluntary?
sr. member
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July 08, 2017, 08:13:25 AM
Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

Tax is not a form of theft because it is use to improve the city and lessen the debt owned by the country. It will be considered theft if the ones who collected the taxes use it for personal gain, only corrupt polition take granted for the taxes paid by us
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July 08, 2017, 07:50:12 AM
Taxation is a theft, because in many countries rulers live very richly in contrast to ordinary people and use this money for their own purposes. I for that to cancel taxes.
legendary
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July 08, 2017, 01:24:27 AM
Taxation cannot be said to be a theft. It is a matter of a law. There establishs law on soon may phenomenons just like taxation and is ought to be obeyed.  The idea or political philosophy that taxation is a theft cannot be sustained because personally I have my doubt on that viewpoint. When people choose to have a government they invariably give up there rights and empowered the government to make law and tax law is not an exception.

When does one choose to have a government?

I do not consent.
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July 08, 2017, 01:03:17 AM
No, I don't think its theft. Tax is use to develop roads, schools and other government project for  our convenience. It only become  theft when government officials get our tax to full their pockets.

It becomes theft when if you don't pay it, you will be treated with aggression until you do, or end up in prison.

Government employees do fill their pockets, they award contracts to their friends for kickbacks, they monopolize industries, etc.  Not all the time, but it definitely does happen often enough to know the government is not benevolent.  It's a group of people trying to keep a job.  

Yup... in my country also, most of the tax revenue is going towards feeding the government employees. And these people are the most corrupt lot. Despite getting fat salaries from the government, they demand bribes every time we contact them.
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July 07, 2017, 06:58:40 PM
Taxation cannot be said to be a theft. It is a matter of a law. There establishs law on soon may phenomenons just like taxation and is ought to be obeyed.  The idea or political philosophy that taxation is a theft cannot be sustained because personally I have my doubt on that viewpoint. When people choose to have a government they invariably give up there rights and empowered the government to make law and tax law is not an exception.
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