In past taxation was very often kind of theft because taxes were unjust and exaggerated. Today situation has changed, at least in many civilized countries and taxation is one of the basic ways how governments are finding funds for functioning. Wheter the taxation is carried on the best and fair way, that is another question, because many people still try to avoid it.
And whether we admit it or not, we as citizens all have use of taxation.
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I do not think Taxation is kind of Thievery
It could be used for good like financing social welfare
However if it is corrupted then it is called thievery
It could be used for good like financing social welfare
However if it is corrupted then it is called thievery
Of course it's stealing, but everything is very well disguised as legitimate payments. If the money paid for taxes were used for the intended purpose, then in many countries there would be a good economic situation.
Theft is not taxation. It should be and without taxes there can be not one state, but the people choose the thieves in power. I think it is wrong to blame all of their troubles. The first thing to blame themselves, even if they steal others. 
Of course it's stealing, but everything is very well disguised as legitimate payments. If the money paid for taxes were used for the intended purpose, then in many countries there would be a good economic situation.
IMO, there should be only one type of taxation. Where I live, we pay indirect taxes in addition to the direct tax (income tax). The burden is getting more and more heavier with each passing year.
It is directly tied to the amount of services state provides. Or tries to.
My country has 8th highest overall taxation on the planet. But unless you are sick, sexual/ethnic minority or over 65, you will never see any benefits from working overtime all the time.
Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
Yes, taxation is well thought out theft. The authorities do not want to allow people to live normally and try to legally pull out of them as much money as possible under the guise of taxes.
Sure, but you are not paying for your education and health care. Or are you?
I am the last person to advocate taxation, but some of guys have no idea about what personal responsibility - in the matter of health and perspective, means.
Absolutely yes!!!! All the money which is taken away by the goverment is stolen money for me because governments do not use this money for beneficial purposes for society. Member of parliaments,ministers, prime ministers, presidents are usin this money for their own bank accounts to afford mansions, luxurious car and so-called instagram babes.. shame on them.
IMO, there should be only one type of taxation. Where I live, we pay indirect taxes in addition to the direct tax (income tax). The burden is getting more and more heavier with each passing year.
So you should only be extorted in one way instead of two. I guess that is better.
IMO, there should be only one type of taxation. Where I live, we pay indirect taxes in addition to the direct tax (income tax). The burden is getting more and more heavier with each passing year.
So you should only be extorted in one way instead of two. I guess that is better.
IMO, there should be only one type of taxation. Where I live, we pay indirect taxes in addition to the direct tax (income tax). The burden is getting more and more heavier with each passing year.
IT'S OVER:
NEW REPORT JUST EXPOSED UNBELIEVABLE IRS FRAUD,
TRUMP IS GOING TO HAVE A FIELD DAY
IT’S OVER: NEW REPORT JUST EXPOSED UNBELIEVABLE IRS FRAUD, TRUMP IS GOING TO HAVE A FIELD DAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrRyux-Y_KU
NEW REPORT JUST EXPOSED UNBELIEVABLE IRS FRAUD,
TRUMP IS GOING TO HAVE A FIELD DAY
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This is certainly something to celebrate on Independence day. Emily Nowak for Liberty Writers reports, Nothing like knowing your hard earned tax dollars are being put to good use, right? Well sadly that's not the case for the one agency you'd think would value tax dollars the most- the IRS.
IT’S OVER: NEW REPORT JUST EXPOSED UNBELIEVABLE IRS FRAUD, TRUMP IS GOING TO HAVE A FIELD DAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrRyux-Y_KU
Ron Paul: We Must Declare Independence
Read more at http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-03/ron-paul-we-must-declare-independence.
As Independence Day comes around again we should spend a few moments between barbecue and fireworks to think about the meaning of independence. The colonists who rebelled against the British Crown were, among other things, unhappy about taxation. Yet, as economist Gary North points out, the total burden of British imperial taxation was about one-to-two percent of national income.
Some 241 years later, Washington claims more of our money as its own than King George could have ever imagined. What do we get in this bargain? We get a federal government larger and more oppressive than before 1776, a government that increasingly views us as the enemy.
Think about NSA surveillance. As we have learned from brave whistleblowers like William Binney and Edward Snowden, the US intelligence community is not protecting us from foreigners who seek to destroy our way of life. The US intelligence community is itself destroying our way of life. Literally every one of our electronic communications is captured and stored in vast computer networks. Perhaps they will be used against "dissidents" in the future who question government tyranny.
We have no privacy in our computers or our phones. If the government wants to see what we are doing at any time, it simply switches on our phone camera or computer camera – or our "smart" television. Yet today we continue to hear, "I've got nothing to hide."
In a recent interview on our Liberty Report, Edward Snowden made the excellent point that,
"saying that you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about freedom of speech because you have nothing to say."
Think about the TSA. The freedom to travel is fundamental, and our Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable searches and seizures is the law of the land. But if you dare to exercise that right by purchasing an air ticket, you are treated like a Guantanamo Bay detainee. Don't dare question as the TSA agents commit acts that would be crimes were they done by anyone else. Yet so many Americans still believe this is what it takes to be "safe."
Think about the military industrial complex. The US government spends more on its military empire than much of the rest of the world combined. Our so-called mortal enemy Russia spends ten cents to every dollar we spend on weapons of war. Yet we are told we must spend more! Imagine the amazing peaceful scientific discoveries that might be made were so many researchers and scientists not on the government payroll designing new ways to end life on earth.
Some 241 years later, Washington claims more of our money as its own than King George could have ever imagined. What do we get in this bargain? We get a federal government larger and more oppressive than before 1776, a government that increasingly views us as the enemy.
Think about NSA surveillance. As we have learned from brave whistleblowers like William Binney and Edward Snowden, the US intelligence community is not protecting us from foreigners who seek to destroy our way of life. The US intelligence community is itself destroying our way of life. Literally every one of our electronic communications is captured and stored in vast computer networks. Perhaps they will be used against "dissidents" in the future who question government tyranny.
We have no privacy in our computers or our phones. If the government wants to see what we are doing at any time, it simply switches on our phone camera or computer camera – or our "smart" television. Yet today we continue to hear, "I've got nothing to hide."
In a recent interview on our Liberty Report, Edward Snowden made the excellent point that,
"saying that you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about freedom of speech because you have nothing to say."
Think about the TSA. The freedom to travel is fundamental, and our Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable searches and seizures is the law of the land. But if you dare to exercise that right by purchasing an air ticket, you are treated like a Guantanamo Bay detainee. Don't dare question as the TSA agents commit acts that would be crimes were they done by anyone else. Yet so many Americans still believe this is what it takes to be "safe."
Think about the military industrial complex. The US government spends more on its military empire than much of the rest of the world combined. Our so-called mortal enemy Russia spends ten cents to every dollar we spend on weapons of war. Yet we are told we must spend more! Imagine the amazing peaceful scientific discoveries that might be made were so many researchers and scientists not on the government payroll designing new ways to end life on earth.
Read more at http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-03/ron-paul-we-must-declare-independence.
Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
Taxation is not theft. Every profitable venture should be taxed in order to generate revenue for providing basic needs of society. If we are not taxed, we might abuse the privilege of profiting thereby making the society thirsty of the benefit of government. Is taxation voluntary?
Taxes are necessary, nobody argues, but without proper control over their spending, they turn to theft. This situation with the control leads to loss of motivation to pay taxes, and we often see people trying to hide income.
I beg to differ.
Not everyone believes in non-consentual activities.
Taxes are necessary, nobody argues, but without proper control over their spending, they turn to theft. This situation with the control leads to loss of motivation to pay taxes, and we often see people trying to hide income.
Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
Taxation is not theft. Every profitable venture should be taxed in order to generate revenue for providing basic needs of society. If we are not taxed, we might abuse the privilege of profiting thereby making the society thirsty of the benefit of government. 
Well played my friend. That looks like check mate to me. This thread should be locked with no further responses
of course no! we pay tax to rovide some infrastracture and some rehabilitation. we are not in a stone age so they need to have money to do their things. the only problem is some official cant resist the money so they always attempt to stole thoss money. Money is the root of all evil
Taxation in each country is legally implemented and applied. It will only be called theft if some of the officials in the government
steal taxes of their citizens. Then if you believe in the it is also wrritten there abiut the laws of taxes between the government
And into God.
steal taxes of their citizens. Then if you believe in the it is also wrritten there abiut the laws of taxes between the government
And into God.
Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
Taxation is an ancient way of the government to collect funds that they might use in nation building. Even in the bible, Jesus teaches us to give money that is intended for Cesar. Even until now, our government still collectinh taxes on us so they have budget for infrastructure, education, health, and the like. I guess, it is the people who corrupted the budget intended for the nation building and use for their personal interest are the theft. They ruined the trust of people and they abuse their authority and power.
Look at the context of the Jesus/Caesar dialogue. He first says "who's image is on that coin?". On the response of "Caesar" he says to give Caesar what is Caesar's. He does not say give Caesar a percentage of your coins. He is basically saying...give Caesar all of his coins back. As in...stop using Caesar's money.
What he probably wanted to say was..."stop using fiat currency and build a cryptocurrency that is decentralized so you do not need to use government money ever again".
In addition, Jesus says "give." He doesn't say "pay." So when you pay your taxes, you aren't doing what Jesus says anyway. Because "give" means to donate, not pay. And if you donate, it isn't taxes; it is a gift. Jesus wasn't talking about taxes at all. But it shut the mouths of those who were trying to trick Jesus. Because they hadn't thought it through.
In addition. When Romans 13 talks about obeying your Government, the only Government it talks about directly is God. It leaves the rest of it open. What I mean is, how does a government become your Government? Isn't it by your choice? So, if a government is your Government, do what you agreed to do. Obey it. But if you don't like obeying it, make it to not be your Government any longer.
In America, this doesn't mean moving off the land. Why not? The only land that belongs to the Government is that which is delegated to it according to the laws of the Government. The Constitution gives only D.C. and ceded forts and lands in the States to the Federal Government.
Most Federal Government lands within State borders are not ceded to them; they may be usurping them. Your private land isn't theirs. And your private land doesn't even belong to the States. It is essentially your own personal Government land.
Learn the law. Google and Youtube search on "Karl Lentz common law."
Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
Yes, taxation is well thought out theft. The authorities do not want to allow people to live normally and try to legally pull out of them as much money as possible under the guise of taxes.
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