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October 30, 2021, 01:47:05 PM
It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.
If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.

Especially when you take into account that there were so blatantly obvious thrown games in the past that they now try to become more sophisticated in fixing games. I guess there is no doubt that there is still fixing going on, but there is such a vast majority of betting options these days that I believe that even plays into the hands of scammers. Fixing a game with an own goal or a penalty is really obvious, but what about a defender's mistake to kick the ball to a corner during the first five while pretending to just technically mess up. Sure it could still be suspicious, but as it might not be decisive for the game there will also be less scrutiny.
Yeah, you can't just ignore obvious moves that shouldn't be done. You'll find it suspicious if you're going to watch that afterward and analyze the game.
You can really spot them on and can't ignore the fact that this should be done like that or this. You'll have that realization that there's something wrong if you go through and observe the game again.
legendary
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October 30, 2021, 01:31:16 PM
for example if the scammer has access to a list of emails that are interested in gambling they can send half of that list a result of a match and they send the other half the opposite result, they do this for several games, at the end there is a small subset of people that have received all the winners and that is when they ask you money as the recipient of that email believes the scammer is for real when he is in fact only playing a numbers game.
Yeah possible, but what about the bookies who has fixed a match and know the result of an upcoming match when he got access to such a list of gambler's email/mobile number? Definitely they will try to maximize the odds by spreading opposite result to group people who are tend to bet with.

Honestly I have received such email and PM from newbies of this forum itself. There are hundreds of such scammy telegram groups are available. They may not give all tips for making you lose. They may give tips which may get you at least 50% chances to win and another 50% of betting will boost their profits by enabling you to bet opposite to their match fixing.
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October 30, 2021, 12:02:09 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Yes, they are real.

But are you able to captalise on any fixed matches? I highly doubt it.

There are a ton of scammers who fake having fixed matches information but at the end of the day what they're trying to do is just get you to pay them a share of any profits you make. They do this until you lose - in which case, of course, they just stop contacting you.

I've personally seen these scams happen in the past and it's all a game of numbers. The more people they reach out to, the more likely someone is going to win and think that the matches are actually fixed.
This is very common, and it is in fact incredibly simple how this is done, for example if the scammer has access to a list of emails that are interested in gambling they can send half of that list a result of a match and they send the other half the opposite result, they do this for several games, at the end there is a small subset of people that have received all the winners and that is when they ask you money as the recipient of that email believes the scammer is for real when he is in fact only playing a numbers game.
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October 30, 2021, 10:21:43 AM
It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.
If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.

No wonder fixed game or rumors with fixed games continue to exist, expert or experienced gamblers who monitors the event understand how this kind of activities taking place, they are accepting the possibilities that there is really someone behind who's controlling the league. Though it's just rumors and if there's something that being identified, it's mostly in the small league.

But with big events, it's tough to pinpoint if which games are really part of game fixing. The team or players are very well known enough to
take part in this kind of controversy.

Though we can't conclude that there's none. Roll Eyes Grin
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October 30, 2021, 09:30:37 AM
It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.
If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.

Especially when you take into account that there were so blatantly obvious thrown games in the past that they now try to become more sophisticated in fixing games. I guess there is no doubt that there is still fixing going on, but there is such a vast majority of betting options these days that I believe that even plays into the hands of scammers. Fixing a game with an own goal or a penalty is really obvious, but what about a defender's mistake to kick the ball to a corner during the first five while pretending to just technically mess up. Sure it could still be suspicious, but as it might not be decisive for the game there will also be less scrutiny.
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October 30, 2021, 05:02:40 AM
It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.
If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.
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October 29, 2021, 07:48:32 AM
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One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

yes, scammers are also usually good at persuasion and use mental triggers to make you act without thinking
urgency and scarcity are commons ones
it's interesting because if you study marketing and behavior you learn a lot about social engineering too

This could possibly happen, it's a 50:50 as well, it could be either a lie or a truth, but yes, I definitely agree that you must stick on your jurisdiction about on a certain match because a great research is much better than an information about the match is fixed. This situation is very tricky though, since you'll have second thoughts on what you're gonna do in order to win.

You can do research but it will not guarantee you a win, a fixed match info will guarantee a win as long as the tipster is legit, you are like reading the script of a movie and you will know what's going to happen in the end.
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October 29, 2021, 07:41:40 AM
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One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

yes, scammers are also usually good at persuasion and use mental triggers to make you act without thinking
urgency and scarcity are commons ones
it's interesting because if you study marketing and behavior you learn a lot about social engineering too

This could possibly happen, it's a 50:50 as well, it could be either a lie or a truth, but yes, I definitely agree that you must stick on your jurisdiction about on a certain match because a great research is much better than an information about the match is fixed. This situation is very tricky though, since you'll have second thoughts on what you're gonna do in order to win.
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October 29, 2021, 06:48:34 AM
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One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

yes, scammers are also usually good at persuasion and use mental triggers to make you act without thinking
urgency and scarcity are commons ones
it's interesting because if you study marketing and behavior you learn a lot about social engineering too
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October 29, 2021, 06:01:18 AM

One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

Greedy people often believe that there are always lapses and shortcut ways to easily earned money from this venue. They are trying to increase the chance of their winning by believing that there's such kind of activities.

And here comes the scammers. They are the ones who really enjoy this business; they are alluring people by saying that they have some insiders inside the league/sport and they can easily manipulate the outcome. Those who believes are just blindly entrusting their fate to people who are collecting a good amount of cash. If luck permits, bets will win. If not, they can easily say that they've been rigged Grin Roll Eyes

This one is one of the reason why they get scam by what they think betting advisors,fixers and insiders since they think they can get high probabilities but unfortunately they end up losing more since they are just deceive so maybe its good not to take this option since this is more risky for us. Better if we really want to win just bet on the sports we are familiar on since Fix matches rarely happening this days since we are now on modern ages where those kind of activities cannot prolong due to the technology.

Unfortunately, there are people who still believe on easy money on sports betting that's why they are risking their money on that service.

But even I'm having difficulty in sports betting, I will not end up paying for such service. I don't understand why other people believe in such fixed match claim offers where in the first place, those offers came from an unknown person and out of nowhere.

This is due to the promoters or influencer who always show how easy to get money on gambling and even if this is a hoax they will publish it on their channels so that they can get views as well as referrals. They don't care about on what will happen to newbies that's why we see so many of them caught of by the reality that its really hard to earn on gambling and the result is negative to them.
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October 29, 2021, 04:12:44 AM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.
They organized secretly players, coaches, referees, and sometimes owners to fix the game they do it for money and standing, sports events are part of gambling whenever an underdog wins only a few wins a jackpot

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Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams where matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.
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October 29, 2021, 04:04:36 AM
As everyone said, fix match can't be predicted beforehand and that's correct. Just do our usual way of betting since we don't know the result after all.

It's not that most of our bets will be fixed matches or rigged. Just bet and hope for the best. If your instincts tell you that a game isn't worth betting because of the possible rigged game then just skip betting on that match. There are lots of betting matches to choose from.

You can also choose games that are at the international level. I'm sure players who participate in international tournaments and represent their country would never sell a match. Moreover, it is mainly at international events that players have the opportunity to show their skills and increase their value on the market. If anyone has any doubts, I think that matches at the highest level are the safest.
I am not sure about that as we do not know what happens behind the international tournaments. Maybe they still do that without anyone knows and as that is an international tournament, they are trying to cover their illegal activity and pretend the match is under control. The highest level of the tournaments could mean that much money will involve, so that can tempt some people who did an illegal activity to get the money for them.

I guess with the international games having fixed games is not on it because all of the organization must be organized unless there's a large name and money involved so most of the players and investors of the game would like to win. Still, these kinds of fix game its all about the management and the money offer with the game, of course, no one wants to skip the money with just a single game. AFAIK this kind of fixed match is not tolerated if you will against them there's a chance big names catch on it.
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October 29, 2021, 03:39:03 AM

Unfortunately, there are people who still believe on easy money on sports betting that's why they are risking their money on that service.

But even I'm having difficulty in sports betting, I will not end up paying for such service. I don't understand why other people believe in such fixed match claim offers where in the first place, those offers came from an unknown person and out of nowhere.

People choose to bet on this kind of fixed match of course because of the hope of the sure win that they may get through it, the eagerness of the people to win a reasonable price whenever they are betting which we can't also question about it because each and everyone have their own reason why they support this kind of unethical type of betting in sports. However, even myself I couldn't take any opportunity of these kind of activities if ever by any chance I would encounter someone introduced me betting in a fixed match.
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October 29, 2021, 03:14:50 AM

One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

Greedy people often believe that there are always lapses and shortcut ways to easily earned money from this venue. They are trying to increase the chance of their winning by believing that there's such kind of activities.

And here comes the scammers. They are the ones who really enjoy this business; they are alluring people by saying that they have some insiders inside the league/sport and they can easily manipulate the outcome. Those who believes are just blindly entrusting their fate to people who are collecting a good amount of cash. If luck permits, bets will win. If not, they can easily say that they've been rigged Grin Roll Eyes

This one is one of the reason why they get scam by what they think betting advisors,fixers and insiders since they think they can get high probabilities but unfortunately they end up losing more since they are just deceive so maybe its good not to take this option since this is more risky for us. Better if we really want to win just bet on the sports we are familiar on since Fix matches rarely happening this days since we are now on modern ages where those kind of activities cannot prolong due to the technology.

Unfortunately, there are people who still believe on easy money on sports betting that's why they are risking their money on that service.

But even I'm having difficulty in sports betting, I will not end up paying for such service. I don't understand why other people believe in such fixed match claim offers where in the first place, those offers came from an unknown person and out of nowhere.
That is because of the temptations from that unknown person who claims that they know the final result so those people want to make big money and use it to bet.
They think that the unknown person can guarantee the result and not think that it is illegal and can get in trouble in the future.
People who have money-oriented will not think much about that instead still searching for a person who can help them to make money.
Money can change how people think and if they want to make money, they will use many things to have that.
legendary
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October 29, 2021, 12:31:39 AM
the classical scam where somebody is selling illusions preying for those who want to buy illusions instead of looking clearly at reality
rationality helps a lot in these cases

In other words, people who get scammed are the ones who try to scam the other side most of the time. Don't tell me they are innocent ever. No. They all want something for nothing just like the other dude. In the end since both of those parties can't have something for nothing, one of them will have nothing for something. Basically the tldr of scamming.
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October 28, 2021, 06:27:31 PM

One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

Greedy people often believe that there are always lapses and shortcut ways to easily earned money from this venue. They are trying to increase the chance of their winning by believing that there's such kind of activities.

And here comes the scammers. They are the ones who really enjoy this business; they are alluring people by saying that they have some insiders inside the league/sport and they can easily manipulate the outcome. Those who believes are just blindly entrusting their fate to people who are collecting a good amount of cash. If luck permits, bets will win. If not, they can easily say that they've been rigged Grin Roll Eyes

This one is one of the reason why they get scam by what they think betting advisors,fixers and insiders since they think they can get high probabilities but unfortunately they end up losing more since they are just deceive so maybe its good not to take this option since this is more risky for us. Better if we really want to win just bet on the sports we are familiar on since Fix matches rarely happening this days since we are now on modern ages where those kind of activities cannot prolong due to the technology.

Unfortunately, there are people who still believe on easy money on sports betting that's why they are risking their money on that service.

But even I'm having difficulty in sports betting, I will not end up paying for such service. I don't understand why other people believe in such fixed match claim offers where in the first place, those offers came from an unknown person and out of nowhere.
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October 28, 2021, 06:23:25 PM
But are you able to captalise on any fixed matches? I highly doubt it.

There are a ton of scammers who fake having fixed matches information but at the end of the day what they're trying to do is just get you to pay them a share of any profits you make. They do this until you lose - in which case, of course, they just stop contacting you.

I've personally seen these scams happen in the past and it's all a game of numbers. The more people they reach out to, the more likely someone is going to win and think that the matches are actually fixed.

There's no way a "real person" who claimed to have inside information about the fixed match will offer it to a random community just like here in the forum.

Any form of such offer is considered a scam. I actually not alarmed on that but rather think, are there really people who will fall on that crap?
As difficult as you think it is to believe people fall into that kind of scam all the time, just recently I remember there was a thread offering something like that and while the majority of the people were smart enough to recognize it was a scam the alleged scammer claimed that in fact someone had agreed to make business with him.

Now it is possible he was lying to cover himself and make his offer appear more legitimate, but I will not be surprised at all if that was actually true.

Actually, since I enter the forum, there are lots of threads created by some random guys claiming they have inside information of a possible fixed match. Since no proof or actually even they have proof, that was against fair play and I think the forum won't allow it here. That's the reason why future threads with the same intention are tagged as a scam right away.

If those alleged scammers claimed that someone got to make a business to them, it's part of their fabricated stories.
legendary
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October 28, 2021, 06:03:24 PM
in almost any sport event that I went to watch live before the pandemic there was always someone that had a hot tip or knew someone or heard a rumor about what it would happen, for some time I thought those people were just trying to be helpful but now I know that most likely they were scammers trying to make me bet on one direction while they did the opposite in order to increase the odds of their choice and get more money that way.
But, if someone's tip will not get you profits then I guess you may not go back to them for another tip for another match, right? This way I guess people may not keep trying to trap you for their indirect benefits. People usually fix a match where stronger team unusually may lose. It means most bettors will go by stronger team but when it suddenly losses then those match fixers will earn massive profits hence I guess that most such people may not contact you in person if their intention is trapping you by giving out invalid tip.
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October 28, 2021, 05:59:29 PM

One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

Greedy people often believe that there are always lapses and shortcut ways to easily earned money from this venue. They are trying to increase the chance of their winning by believing that there's such kind of activities.

And here comes the scammers. They are the ones who really enjoy this business; they are alluring people by saying that they have some insiders inside the league/sport and they can easily manipulate the outcome. Those who believes are just blindly entrusting their fate to people who are collecting a good amount of cash. If luck permits, bets will win. If not, they can easily say that they've been rigged Grin Roll Eyes

This one is one of the reason why they get scam by what they think betting advisors,fixers and insiders since they think they can get high probabilities but unfortunately they end up losing more since they are just deceive so maybe its good not to take this option since this is more risky for us. Better if we really want to win just bet on the sports we are familiar on since Fix matches rarely happening this days since we are now on modern ages where those kind of activities cannot prolong due to the technology.
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October 28, 2021, 05:43:42 PM

One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

Greedy people often believe that there are always lapses and shortcut ways to easily earned money from this venue. They are trying to increase the chance of their winning by believing that there's such kind of activities.

And here comes the scammers. They are the ones who really enjoy this business; they are alluring people by saying that they have some insiders inside the league/sport and they can easily manipulate the outcome. Those who believes are just blindly entrusting their fate to people who are collecting a good amount of cash. If luck permits, bets will win. If not, they can easily say that they've been rigged Grin Roll Eyes
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