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legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
April 28, 2020, 02:41:21 PM
How are others thinking about the week between May 12 halving and ~May 19th?

With adjustments taking ~14 days and the next one coming on May 5th, we won't have a difficulty adjustment for the first week of the halving.

Personally I'm assuming diff will fall a little on May 19th, but I may be turning off some machines that first week depending on price.

All my gear turns a profit up to the ½ ing after the ½ ing 28 s9's all become losers about 310th

I have 1 t17 + 58 th

I have 1 s70 + 70 th

I will switch them in  a + of  128 th

so I will net lose 182th on may 11-13

I will Still have about 1800th to mine with.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
All my gear turns a profit up to the ½ ing after the ½ ing 28 s9's all become losers about 310th

I have 1 t17 + 58 th

I have 1 s70 + 70 th

I will switch them in  a + of  128 th

so I will net lose 182th on may 11-13

I will Still have about 1800th to mine with.



Latest Block:   628404  (5 minutes ago)
Current Pace:   97.1871%  (1429 / 1470.36 expected, 41.36 behind)
Current Difficulty:   15958652328578.42XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Next Difficulty:   between 15533074934923 and 15568272929556
Next Difficulty Change:   between -2.6668% and -2.4462%
Previous Retarget:   April 21, 2020 at 2:43 AM
Next Retarget (earliest):   Tuesday at 11:37 AM  (in 4d 3h 50m 25s)
Next Retarget (latest):   Tuesday at 12:26 PM  (in 4d 4h 39m 53s)
Projected Epoch Length:   between 14d 8h 54m 1s and 14d 9h 43m 30s

587 blocks to go a nice week for mining.  price is back over 9k diff is looking to drop 1-3%

Looks like an ATH for the diff won't happen in a while  If we drop 2% to 15.5 on May 5th. The 1/2 ing comes may 12 and next Jump will be May 18-20 It should be 5-10%

Next Jump after that we should be -10%

So I see
 15.5 May 5
 14.0 May 19
 12.6 June  2

Now while that looks nice we will still need price to go to over 12k to make up for 1/2 ing

If we are at 15.9 and 9k with diff dropping

diff should and will be dropping until we clear the 12k  price level.
brand new
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April 27, 2020, 01:50:12 PM
Now at $9150, cracked the 200 day moving average. Break-even for a 90 W/TH S9 is now at 7c. Might see some S9s get turned back on if this keeps up...

Well if we are now moving up to match ½ ing we could approach 13,800.00 In March
newbie
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April 28, 2020, 12:07:36 PM
How are others thinking about the week between May 12 halving and ~May 19th?

With adjustments taking ~14 days and the next one coming on May 5th, we won't have a difficulty adjustment for the first week of the halving.

Personally I'm assuming diff will fall a little on May 19th, but I may be turning off some machines that first week depending on price.
legendary
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Merit: 8950
'The right to privacy matters'
April 27, 2020, 11:39:54 AM
I used 100th of gear not the s19pro or any specific gear

so 110 x  0.0597 =.

$6.57 usd a day pre power. or over 500 days to break even with free power.

it uses 78 k- watts  a day.

$ 7.80 at 10 cents loser
   3.90 at  5 cents = 2.67 daily  profit about 1000 days to break even
   2.34 at  3 cents  = 4.23 daily profit about   650 days to break even. assuming not import taxes  and a 2749 price including shipping

I see major shift in diff and or price  on or around may 12th 1/2 ing

as 3 cent power is not the norm.

Latest Block:   627994  (2 minutes ago)
Current Pace:   97.6973%  (1019 / 1043.02 expected, 24.02 behind)
Current Difficulty:   15958652328578.42XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Next Difficulty:   between 15624255891265 and 15704739124724
Next Difficulty Change:   between -2.0954% and -1.5911%
Previous Retarget:   April 21, 2020 at 2:43 AM
Next Retarget (earliest):   May 5, 2020 at 8:42 AM  (in 7d 0h 8m 46s)
Next Retarget (latest):   May 5, 2020 at 10:38 AM  (in 7d 2h 4m 59s)
Projected Epoch Length:   between 14d 5h 58m 57s and 14d 7h 55m 9s

price is 7751 at coin base

it would be nice to see a rally beyond 10,000 fire up and hold solid starting over the next few days.
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
April 27, 2020, 10:56:43 AM
40 watt ....................................................... 10 cents     9.60 loser
40 watt .......................................................  5 cents.    4.80  1.17 profit.   bitmain s17 s17+
40 watt .......................................................  3 cents      2.88.   3.09 profit

30 watt ..................................................... 10 cents.     7.20 loser
30 watt ....................................................   5 cents.      3.60   2.37 profit
30 watt ....................................................   3 cents.      2.16.  3.81 profit

Nicely put, as always.
But am I missing something or...
The s19pro is doing 3.81c profit per TH, that gives 4.19$ per day, at current selling price excluding anything else even a power cable, ROI is in 628 days?
Of course,  other miners will drop, your share of the pie will be bigger per TH, but I'm talking about right now with those numbers..

Wtf am I doing wrong while calculating this..cause it has to be wrong..right?
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
April 27, 2020, 07:57:00 AM
Phil, at viabtc - new feature auto-switching mining rotating between BTC-BCH-BSV -- is it worth it?

(Optional) BCH and BSV can be mined as per above but auto-convert to BTC every hour

Auto Switch
Auto Switch provides a profitable mechanism with an ease to quickly switch the mining preferences with possible high returns using a designated algorithm, including Bitcoin pool (BTC, BCH, BSV). In comparison to manual switch, it's more flexible and easier to set up.

you know it is technically an alt coin subject.

I am just mining direct btc at viabtc

Once 1/2 ing comes maybe I switch to the switcher service.  Never liked switching as it tends to flatten out coin price.


Most likely no.
legendary
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---- winter*juvia -----
April 27, 2020, 07:45:21 AM
Phil, at viabtc - new feature auto-switching mining rotating between BTC-BCH-BSV -- is it worth it?

(Optional) BCH and BSV can be mined as per above but auto-convert to BTC every hour

Auto Switch
Auto Switch provides a profitable mechanism with an ease to quickly switch the mining preferences with possible high returns using a designated algorithm, including Bitcoin pool (BTC, BCH, BSV). In comparison to manual switch, it's more flexible and easier to set up.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
April 27, 2020, 06:23:02 AM
-3% at block 863 coins at 7700

may 12 1/2 ing

so real price is. 3800-3900

.1194 usd per th

real price is

0.0597 usd per th

100th. earns 5.97 pre power

100 watt a th gear burns 240kwatts cost at 10 cents 24.00 Loser
100 watt ................................................  5 cents 12.00 Loser
100 watt ................................................  3 cents   7.20 Loser

90 watt .................................................. 10 cents. 21.60 Loser
90 watt ..................................................   5 cents. 10.80 Loser
90 watt ..................................................   3 cents.   6.48 Loser

80 watt ................................................... 10 cents  19.20 Loser
80 watt ...................................................  5 cents    9.60 Loser
80 watt ...................................................  3 cents.   5.76 small profit of 21 cents

70 watt .................................................. 10 cents.   16.80 Loser
70 watt .................................................    5 cents.    8.40 Loser
70 watt ..................................................   3 cents.    5.04 small profit of 93 cents

60 watt .................................................. 10 cents.   14.40 Loser
60 watt ..................................................   5 cents.    7.20  Loser
60 watt ..................................................  3 cents.     4.32  1.65 profit. Avalon a1041 a1047 a1066 what'sminer m10 on low

50 watt ...................................................... 10 cents  12.00 Loser
50 watt.......................................................  5 cents.    6.00 Loser
50 watt.......................................................  3 cents     3.60  2.37 profit bitmain s15 on low , t17+  WhatsMiner m20s

40 watt ....................................................... 10 cents     9.60 loser
40 watt .......................................................  5 cents.    4.80  1.17 profit.   bitmain s17 s17+
40 watt .......................................................  3 cents      2.88.   3.09 profit


30 watt ..................................................... 10 cents.     7.20 loser
30 watt ....................................................   5 cents.      3.60   2.37 profit
30 watt ....................................................   3 cents.      2.16.  3.81 profit


those numbers mean all:

Avalon lose money unless they are at 3 cents
Innosilicon lose  money unless they are at 3 cents
bitmain need to be an s15 or better to turn a profit
what's miner need to be m20s m30s to turn a profit

the best gear. the s19pro. will need under 8 cent power to break even.

I see a solid drop in the diff on the may 19-20 jump.
legendary
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be constructive or S.T.F.U
April 26, 2020, 07:50:04 PM
If we go flat and don't pass 16.5 this time.

We are 25 blocks behind but only 803 blocks in, so there is plenty of time until the adjustment, coins prices are picking up at about $7700, the way I see it is that if we manage to close the week above 7.9k which is where the 20SMA on the weekly, nothing will stop us from getting to 8.9-9k, that will most certainly bring a ton of gears online and get us to go past difficulty ATH.

As far as the halving is concerned, I now expect a larger drop between 15-20% on the first adjustment post the halving.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
April 23, 2020, 10:07:44 AM
we are down a little

Latest Block:   627310  (6 minutes ago)
Current Pace:   99.0107%  (335 / 338.35 expected, 3.35 behind)
Current Difficulty:   15958652328578.42XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Next Difficulty:   between 15904586546106 and 15942138039734
Next Difficulty Change:   between -0.3388% and -0.1035%
Previous Retarget:   last Tuesday at 2:43 AM
Next Retarget (earliest):   May 5, 2020 at 3:44 AM  (in 11d 16h 37m 54s)
Next Retarget (latest):   May 5, 2020 at 6:04 AM  (in 11d 18h 57m 57s)
Projected Epoch Length:   between 14d 1h 1m 22s and 14d 3h 21m 25s

If we go flat and don't pass 16.5 this time. on may 4-5-6
the ½ ing comes  which will certainly crash difficulty 5 to 10 % on the may 19-20-21 jump

So it is possible that an ATH for diff was back in  March 10 - March 25 at 16.5529

If it breaks like LTC did last year.  that will not be topped  until 2021.
legendary
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be constructive or S.T.F.U
April 22, 2020, 05:51:11 PM
Sometimes I feel like screaming, let's just get over with all this, the virus, the halving, crashes, quarantine, the ..everything!

Only 19 days left for the halving nightmare to be over, the virus maybe 2-3 months and we will get over it, the overall economy hmmm, probably a few years.

For clients, for special clients gear might be already up and mining by now.

There are indeed special clients that we are aware of but highly unlikely to be "special" enough to actually own the gears that early, but this doesn't mean anything because after all Bitmain themselves might be mining with a good amount of S19s already, which may not be the case at all, because if I was bitmain I would try to get rid of as many gears as I can before the halving.
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
April 22, 2020, 04:34:48 PM
with the pandemic, oil prices collapsing, millions of people losing their jobs, price of bitcoin doesn't seem to be increasing, this is going to be a tough year for miners, stay strong - stay safe.

Yeah, everything is going south, apart from some energy prices.
My last bill came with a huge discount from 7.2 cents to 6.9 cents (excluding other taxes) which.... Cry
But the situation is pretty grim, and it gets worse day by day, I wish so much for a price increase, not because of gains in my stash but so that more than 80-90% of the current hashpower stays mining and to keep all PoS fanatics silent.
Sometimes I feel like screaming, let's just get over with all this, the virus, the halving, crashes, quarantine, the ..everything!

Highly doubt, as S19 and S19 Pro machines are due to be shipped during May and June.

For clients, for special clients gear might be already up and mining by now. I can see some of the ones that bought those with June delivery praying that the ship carrying the gear will sink so that they can get a full refund rather than the miner itself.
And they are still selling those damn s9, e and k, how many of those have they manufactured?
sr. member
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April 22, 2020, 05:25:26 AM
I wonder if we're starting to see the S19 Pro's hit the network now after the drop in hash past few weeks it seems to be rebounding now so my thoughts were someone turned off and upgraded.

Highly doubt, as S19 and S19 Pro machines are due to be shipped during May and June.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
April 21, 2020, 10:21:36 PM
Yeah  look for a diff crash after ½ ing and a price dip.

Then a long climb back up.
legendary
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be constructive or S.T.F.U
April 21, 2020, 09:12:00 PM
16.0 in an hour or so.

15.95T to be exact, less than 4% is needed for this Epoch to take us back to difficulty ATH, BTC price is at $6800, we are 35% down from this year ATH and only less than 4% down in terms of difficulty, I expect we hit a new ATH before the halving which is due in 20 days, many gamblers will try to hit a block or two before the halving comes, new gears are arriving soon, this looks bad overall as far as mining profitability is concerned, with the pandemic, oil prices collapsing, millions of people losing their jobs, price of bitcoin doesn't seem to be increasing, this is going to be a tough year for miners, stay strong - stay safe.
hero member
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OGRaccoon
April 21, 2020, 10:08:19 AM
[...]

And what is we keep seeing by these tards?

Clean code and scale?

Some scale that 14 hours for 30 blocks! LMAO.

I wonder if we're starting to see the S19 Pro's hit the network now after the drop in hash past few weeks it seems to be rebounding now so my thoughts were someone turned off and upgraded.

Interesting times!
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
April 20, 2020, 07:49:00 PM
Looks like we will jump back over 8%. almost back to our all time diff.

maybe 16.09 vs 16.51 for the all time high this a huge jump from 14.71

under 35 blocks to go.


tracking four jumps below.


16.5
13.8
14.7
16.0 in an hour or so.
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
April 10, 2020, 09:57:40 AM
After the ½ ing  BCH is not dropping hash rate.
The net work is still about 3.3eh even with earning at 6.7 cents a th daily

Well, it did drop like a stone: https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin%20cash-hashrate.html#3m

Seems like viabtc turned its hashrate to the chain on and off trying to help it go through the next difficulty adjustment.

BSV is not doing any better:
Block 630 000  04/10/2020 03:48:30
(Last) 630 030 04/10/2020 17:46:52

14 hours for 30 blocks, that's close to two blocks per hour...
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
April 09, 2020, 11:38:21 AM
well

microbt

m10 60 watts low 68 watts high
m20s  49 watts
m30s  40 watts?

avalon
1041  about 58 watts
1066  about 58 watts

innosilicon

t3t39
t3t50
t3t58   all around 60-65 watts

ebang not sure

cheetah around 60 watts

All of the above is more then 20% of network maybe 30%  and it may not average 60watts it may be just over.

first a few  interesting things is

After the ½ ing  BCH is not dropping hash rate.
The net work is still about 3.3eh even with earning at 6.7 cents a th daily

BSV does ½ in 6-8 hours

and btc is due in 33 days.

BCH  price jump up a bit  so after ½ ing we are at 0.0835
BSV  price is flat    so after ½ ing we are at 0.0617

and they are doing about 6eh of hash .  So unless all that gear is 40 watts a th it is not making much at all.  at 40 watts say 1 k-watt  to make  8 cent of coin  or 1 k-watt to make 6 cent of coin

So you need 5 cent power and all s17 to mine at a profit.

Watching both of them should help us predict BTC  in about 32 days at that ½ ing

if corona-v does not mutate to   corona-v FU  and then who cares about this Shocked
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