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1.) How to visualize a spammer?

It could be a robot that carries a lot of paper & wants to share with all the robots there.

2.) How to visualize merit?

It could be stars, have you ever watched Yu-Gi-Oh! anime?

You can visualize it with for example 2 robots interacting with each other, one receiving stars and the other giving them, that's what's in my mind so far.

3.) Who to paint as main character in the front right (if anyone)?

I don't have any idea for this.
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VISUAL UPDATE #2

I began the stylistic transformation into vintage sfi-fi atmosphere.

This is just concept art and anything can still change!

We have entered project's second phase, where most of the exciting back and forth between my concept art and your commenting happens!






The composition is now even more obviously divided into three planes; the back, the middle and the front.

In the back stands the main BTCtalk tower from which bridges, towers and other connections expand outward connecting everything.
The BTC is lit with warm light that could be made with real golden leafs in the final canvas artwork.
There is also the "15" for our anniversary and below nicknames of Satoshi and Theymos, two of the big names that could be named there as pillars of BTCtalk.

In the middle are connections bridges from back to front, here there's space for various forum activities and enterprises both from past and present.

I enlarged the front part so I can paint in many specific details that have already been discussed and many more here.
Right now it's all very abstract, so I can transform it into anything, using very different shapes and colors.


Why vintage sci-fi style?
Through several comments it was made clear that to many members this place feels nostalgic.
One reason is it's text based, the other the fact that forums had their golden era years ago, then there's the almost forgotten feel of making the world better...
It all feels like a retro futuristic utopia in the best way, because we are part of it!

A quick disclaimer.
I don't use AI to generate images and I don't intend to.
I don't like how most of it is used and I rather go a step further back into classic painting.
Not that I hate people using it ort I'll never use it, I just feel it gets toxic and ruins things pretty fast.

I'll wrap today with three questions for you:

1.) How to visualize a spammer?

2.) How to visualize merit?

3.) Who to paint as main character in the front right (if anyone)?
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I made a thread for this project (mostly to invite members here) in the /Meta subforum:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/invitation-to-the-bitcoin-forum-metaverse-artwork-project-5503191


There was one very interesting exchange of ideas with Alone055 so I'm posting it here as well:

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What got me on this board and why I stayed here?

The curiosity to learn more about Bitcoin got me here, and what made me stay was the environment that was full of knowledge, more than any other place/platform over the internet at that time.

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What do I love most about it?

Everything, I guess. This forum is the ultimate location for me to get anything about cryptocurrencies, be it market knowledge, updates about what's happening around the industry, knowledge or information about a specific wallet, error, or anything in general that you can think about, you can get everything here. If something isn't readily available, you can ask about it and you will get the problem solved.

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What have I learned here?

Again, everything. Each and everything that I know about Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies or this whole industry, it all started from this forum because I came to know about Bitcoin from faucets, and then I joined this forum soon after that, and when I joined, I didn't know anything about Bitcoin other than what it is and how it can be stored.

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How do I visualize my existence here?

I don't know. I'm not much of a character here if you ask, I try to contribute as much as I can, but if it's about visualizing my existence, I'm not really sure about that.

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What does this forum remind me of?

Good old days.

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What are the most meaningful facts about BTCtalk?

It's the epitome of knowledge about this industry but most people don't realize it because it's not very visually appealing. People these days love visuals more than texts, and this forum is all about texts and reading.

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Is there anything I don’t like here and what is it?

Spammers, shills, and other stuff like that, but I believe those aren't related to the forum itself. There is nothing that I dislike about the forum.  Smiley

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What question do I want to ask everybody here?

"How many Bitcoins do you have?"  Grin

These are awesome, well articulated answers, thank you Alone055!

You probably nailed what a lot of members are sincerely thinking and now I'd love to hear other opinions constructed just like this!


Two answers got me most:

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What does this forum remind me of?
Good old days.

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What are the most meaningful facts about BTCtalk?
It's the epitome of knowledge about this industry but most people don't realize it because it's not very visually appealing. People these days love visuals more than texts, and this forum is all about texts and reading.

Did you mean this whole "forum" thing is at its basis very vintage nowadays?

For me this place has that solid feel that other social platforms lack - having the lenghthy written meaning be more important than short dramatic texts, fancy visuals and emojis.

It totally feels proper then to push the style of the painting into a more vintage science fiction from decades ago, like these:



I'll try to reimagine the upcoming sketches into a more stylistic vintage image.


Thank you and looking forward to more ideas.



I really thing this retro sf style would be great here and I'll work on it for the next concept art.

Maybe I could expand my style as much as I can here like I did already in the background for "Egging on the future":




Everybody - let the brainstorming continue.

If you're not sure what to add, you could answer the initial questions in the first post, like Alone055 did above.


Later.
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* Using the original artwork, I reconfigured the composition to give us a bit more space for extra forum's content.


Yes, in relation to members names I think they could go on the left along the tower and this will
balance the forums menus which you have on the left.

Will try incorporating this so that it's both visually interesting and obvious who it's about.
Maybe transforming or melding the nicknames with architectural elements.


* The huge Bitcoin tower in the background stands for the forum's mass and value. 
   It now has the big symbolic BTC powered with light energy that runs through its entire height.
   This energy represents the Bitcoin core (blockchain) and I'd use the hue of that energy to power everything else going on.
   Top of the tower is crowned with lightning bolts, representing the electricity needed for Bitcoin's functioning.
   Below the BTC is a vertical text "15 years", for our anniversary celebration.


Maybe add BCT on the tower, its obvious to us what the project is about but to others it might not
some people refer to the forum as BTT, there was a discussion about that somewhere a few weeks ago

Damn I feel a bit ashamed I don't know about those, is it an older thing?
Maybe have BCT and BTT around the huge BTC sign?


* In the left is the "Economy tower", so far the most exposed board tree and in it's bottom is our collectibles place.
  Not many details in so far, but you might already find something entertaining.


Definitely add Satori, BTCC, Polymerbit and Icarus

I will absolutely add these, it's neat they mostly have recognizable logos I can paint in.


* I also tried the motif in two color variants:


I personally like the Blue, its more lively which should reflect the forum, it also hints to the
lightning network if thats relevant IDK. I think I would like to see hints of Orange or is that too obvious?

I thought blue was more natural for the cool digital world we reside in!  Cool

Thank you for your valuable comments aoluain, they'll visually manifest soon!


Everyone
, looking forward to read your thoughts.
Critique is also welcomed - anything to make this artwork properly glorious!

Cheers.

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* Using the original artwork, I reconfigured the composition to give us a bit more space for extra forum's content.


Yes, in relation to members names I think they could go on the left along the tower and this will
balance the forums menus which you have on the left.


* The huge Bitcoin tower in the background stands for the forum's mass and value.  
   It now has the big symbolic BTC powered with light energy that runs through its entire height.
   This energy represents the Bitcoin core (blockchain) and I'd use the hue of that energy to power everything else going on.
   Top of the tower is crowned with lightning bolts, representing the electricity needed for Bitcoin's functioning.
   Below the BTC is a vertical text "15 years", for our anniversary celebration.


Maybe add BCT on the tower, its obvious to us what the project is about but to others it might not
some people refer to the forum as BTT, there was a discussion about that somewhere a few weeks ago



* In the left is the "Economy tower", so far the most exposed board tree and in it's bottom is our collectibles place.
  Not many details in so far, but you might already find something entertaining.


Definitely add Satori, BTCC, Polymerbit and Icarus



* I also tried the motif in two color variants:


I personally like the Blue, its more lively which should reflect the forum, it also hints to the
lightning network if thats relevant IDK. I think I would like to see hints of Orange or is that too obvious?
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It's about time I provided some visual material to help boost our brainstorming morale.


VISUAL UPDATE #1


My fellow robots and cyborgs, this is where we begin:




**All points below are open for discussion so you can freely comment on anything! **

* Using the original artwork, I reconfigured the composition to give us a bit more space for extra forum's content.

* The huge Bitcoin tower in the background stands for the forum's mass and value.  
   It now has the big symbolic BTC powered with light energy that runs through its entire height.
   This energy represents the Bitcoin core (blockchain) and I'd use the hue of that energy to power everything else going on.
   Top of the tower is crowned with lightning bolts, representing the electricity needed for Bitcoin's functioning.
   Below the BTC is a vertical text "15 years", for our anniversary celebration.

* I photobashed the motif with sf images for inspiration and atmosphere.

* In the left is the "Economy tower", so far the most exposed board tree and in it's bottom is our collectibles place.
  Not many details in so far, but you might already find something entertaining.

* In the bottom middle are some members doing random stuff.
   I expect this part to be very lively in the end.

* In the right there's only a board with our three contests marked on it with a lot of free space around.
  Bottom right is a newbie, lurking and checking out the scene.

* I also tried the motif in two color variants:





I'm interested in your thoughts on all points above as well as fresh ideas!

I'll continue working on new concept art and will be back asap.

Cheers.

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To sum it up so far:

* Yogg becomes a pile of debris with robo dog peeing on it, Coldscam is replaced or sprayed over and Icarus replaces it.

* Metaverse stays in the title.

* There is equal part of "these guys failed us" and "these guys hold the torch high and bright".

* Add contests of Bitcoin Pizza, Pie and Pumpkin carving contests in form of amusement or carnival area.

* Include famous advertising like foxpup merit cycling, chipmixer / blender advertisments, LEALANA branding / Casascius branding / Kialara branding.

* Expose OG names outside the collectibles like, theymos, Welsh, mprep, philipma1957 and gmaxwell for example.
Also those who are not here and were very well renowned, Lauda, o_e_l_e_o and Zepher ...

Thoughts on atmosphere and places:

Emphasis on dark, moody underground black-market, futuristic hacker type stuff.

We could imagine greens, blues, reds, computer monitors, hooded figures, Bitcoin swap service advertisements,
some tiny exchange advertisements, maybe gambling platforms.

Also Cyberpunk 90's grungy Hong Kong' vibe- small billboards everywhere, just like every other user had ads on their signatures
like the SW cantina with different characters gathering, some dark, but also philosophers and aristocrats


There’s still a lot of ground to cover, like:

•   What would the shape of the main structure in the back look like?

•   Are there any completely new objects, characters or places to add?

•   Do we stick with this color pallette?

•   Should all main subboards of the forum be presented and to what detail?

•   How to visualize developing of Bitcoin and new cores?

•   Do we present various nationalities?

•   What are some interesting or important threads and projects on the forum we should include?

•   Any plain fun ideas you have?



I'll wait for a bit more material and then start sketching!

Cheers!
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Personally, I think we need an equal parts of "these guys failed us" and "these guys hold the torch high and bright".

The forum has been instrumental to the consistent appreciation of collections like Casascius, BTCC, BitBills, and many other creators who were honest and gave us nice pieces.

At the same time, it's been a venue for Yogg, and other scammers like Coinographic, to chase returns.

If scammers are burning/behind bars/piles of excrement, then we should be putting the honest creators high up as well - A Cas tower (if we're doing the Blade Runner theme), or a BTCC mine, or a BitBills bearer back alley deal would be good to see.

Of course, the presentation can vary - I'm not married to any of these ideas - but I do think that creators who have delivered high quality, secure work should act as a contrast to those who failed us.

This is a nice, positive approach to present this segment of Bitcoin (forum).

Shall we make a list of top brands and persons to include? Including the good, the bad and the ugly!  Grin
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Personally, I think we need an equal parts of "these guys failed us" and "these guys hold the torch high and bright".

The forum has been instrumental to the consistent appreciation of collections like Casascius, BTCC, BitBills, and many other creators who were honest and gave us nice pieces.

At the same time, it's been a venue for Yogg, and other scammers like Coinographic, to chase returns.

If scammers are burning/behind bars/piles of excrement, then we should be putting the honest creators high up as well - A Cas tower (if we're doing the Blade Runner theme), or a BTCC mine, or a BitBills bearer back alley deal would be good to see.

Of course, the presentation can vary - I'm not married to any of these ideas - but I do think that creators who have delivered high quality, secure work should act as a contrast to those who failed us.
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 Yes that blade runner vibe is exactly what I would want to see.

  And place twats like Yogg and scammers behind bars in a booth
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By avoiding the word because of its association with a specific person/product, we give that person/product power, legitimacy, and ownership of the word. I believe we should use it as we choose to define it.

Good point. I also stuck with it because it suited this image more than others like Bitcoin "world", "planet", "universe", "metropolis" or similar.

Make sure to include some famous advertising like foxpup merit cycling, chipmixer / blender advertisments.

LEALANA branding / Casascius branding / Kialara branding.

Go for a dark, moody underground black-market (Disclaimer*** I do not condone trade in illicit goods) atmosphere and vibe.

Think like dark, moody, futuristic hacker type stuff. Greens, blues, reds, computer monitors, hooded figures.

Bitcoin swap service advertisements, some tiny exchange advertisements, maybe gambling platforms.   

Will certainly add those, we just need to find proper places for them.
I guess this will be one of my first tasks when sketching a new version!

I'm really feeling the 'cyberpunk 90's grungy Hong Kong' vibe- small billboards everywhere, just like every other user had ads on their signatures. some 'Mos Eisley cantina' energy where there is something of a rough underbelly, but also space for philosophers and aristocrats - a space for strange beings and robots from across the galaxy to gather.

Yes yes, a bit of this and a bit of Blade Runner and some of our own atmosphere and we're there!

And what about listing some OG names outside the collectibles like, theymos,
Welsh, mprep, philipma1957 and gmaxwell for example.

Also those who are not here and were very well renowned, Lauda, o_e_l_e_o and Zepher ...

I feel that this is very important and the more I think about this the more space I'd give it.
This forum and it's fruits is all thanks to the effort of certain individuals starting it all.
Later on it created communities and attracted more and more people.

Can we incorporate these personas into the metaverse to show that they were/are fundamental for its existance?
Maybe in the form of some sort of pillars with characters or statues or something.
Though I wouldn't want it to look old fashioned, like a statue in a park, but rather make it obvious they are still relevant and here.

Also Satoshi.
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Make sure to include some famous advertising like foxpup merit cycling, chipmixer / blender advertisments.

LEALANA branding / Casascius branding / Kialara branding.

Go for a dark, moody underground black-market (Disclaimer*** I do not condone trade in illicit goods) atmosphere and vibe.

Think like dark, moody, futuristic hacker type stuff. Greens, blues, reds, computer monitors, hooded figures.

Bitcoin swap service advertisements, some tiny exchange advertisements, maybe gambling platforms.  



And what about listing some OG names outside the collectibles like, theymos,
Welsh, mprep, philipma1957 and gmaxwell for example.

Also those who are not here and were very well renowned, Lauda, o_e_l_e_o and Zepher ...
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Bitcoin swap service advertisements, some tiny exchange advertisements, maybe gambling platforms.  

I'm really feeling the 'cyberpunk 90's grungy Hong Kong' vibe- small billboards everywhere, just like every other user had ads on their signatures. some 'Mos Eisley cantina' energy where there is something of a rough underbelly, but also space for philosophers and aristocrats - a space for strange beings and robots from across the galaxy to gather.
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Make sure to include some famous advertising like foxpup merit cycling, chipmixer / blender advertisments.

LEALANA branding / Casascius branding / Kialara branding.

Go for a dark, moody underground black-market (Disclaimer*** I do not condone trade in illicit goods) atmosphere and vibe.

Think like dark, moody, futuristic hacker type stuff. Greens, blues, reds, computer monitors, hooded figures.

Bitcoin swap service advertisements, some tiny exchange advertisements, maybe gambling platforms.  

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Btw, is "metaverse" too close to Zuckerberg's product?
I googled the word and it is pretty dynamic, but I wouldn't want people in anyway connecting our project with that one.

By avoiding the word because of its association with a specific person/product, we give that person/product power, legitimacy, and ownership of the word. I believe we should use it as we choose to define it.
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Anyone know about any other activities and contests and other events that we can include?

in addition to the two competitions we mentioned (Bitcointalk pizza day contest & Bitcoin pie contest), there is also the Bitcoin pumpkin carving contest - which unfortunately did not take place last year...
everything else are contests like various football pools or poker tournaments

Ok, that could become one part of the composition - these three tournaments.
Maybe there could be like an amusement park or carnival in there somewhere in the middle.


What about the overall style and atmosphere of our Bitcoin forum world/metaverse?

Is the futuristic, robot-populated cyber-punky style as it is now alright with you?
I know I'd prefer to go a bit deeper into textures and realism on the canvas. Not too far, just to not have it look as cartoony as it is now.

Btw, is "metaverse" too close to Zuckerberg's product?
I googled the word and it is pretty dynamic, but I wouldn't want people in anyway connecting our project with that one.
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Anyone know about any other activities and contests and other events that we can include?

in addition to the two competitions we mentioned (Bitcointalk pizza day contest & Bitcoin pie contest), there is also the Bitcoin pumpkin carving contest - which unfortunately did not take place last year...
everything else are contests like various football pools or poker tournaments
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Let me kick-off this topic by sharing my thoughts. Since this is an evolving artwork, and the scope is to update it to depict the "Bitcoin forum’s 15th Anniversary", my opinion is not to permanently remove things, but rather to evolve them to represent the current status. (ok sometimes you/we might need to remove items to add new ones since the artwork space/area is limited)

Let me provide an example of the coldkeys/Yogg situation. In the other topic, we slightly discussed this, and I clearly understand the Krog's point of view, to remove all references to Yogg from the artwork. My opinion is that Yogg was (and still is) part of the forum history and -somehow- should still be included in the artwork. Hence instead of totally removing it, we should adapt it to the current situation.

Suggestion: At the part where it is written "Coldkeys", we should cross with an "X" (graffiti style) the word "Coldkeys" (the word should be still readable afterward), and replace it with "Icarus" (also graffiti style). Like someone went there with a graffiti can, crossed the "coldkeys" sign & wrote "Icarus" on the side (probably on top, inside the square to the left of the "collectibles" sign?).

Also, concerning the robot with the "Y" on the head (next to Krog robot), we could totally remove it from there and do the following: you can create a rubbish dump/rusty robot parts landfill and among some rusty robots spare parts laying around (hands, feet etc.) there would also be a robot head (with the "Y" mark)

Tl;dr:  We should evolve the artwork, by still preserving the past (since the past is still part of the history)

Those are some good ideas to start from!
We'll see how this idea evolves, if it goes into a completely different direction, we could integrate the old artwork as a thumbnail someplace (the way I put the Pie contest painting into Bitcollector on top of the monitor on the left.

Graffittying over seems like a fun idea, might be needed for something else as well, we'll see.

I love the idea of a rubbish pile for the yogg wreckage.

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I like your ideas very much...yes please throw Yogg on that garbage pile and do cross out coldkey with Icarus.

   Like the way this is already heading....we need some more good ideas.

Definitely excited to get more ideas from everywhere!

i also think the ideas put forward by my greek buddy tweetious are very good Smiley
maybe you could get the robot dog (which is at the bottom center) to do its 'business' for a moment and then write yogg on the dog poop symbol.
another idea would be to add this year's #1 bitcointalk pizza day contest from Ale88 to the pizza (bottom left)

Robot dog having a job is great!

But what I really love is the Pizza contest involvement.
The more things and people we can invite and incorporate, the better.
Like the Bitcoin Pie contest...

Anyone know about any other activities and contests and other events that we can include?
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i also think the ideas put forward by my greek buddy tweetious are very good Smiley
maybe you could get the robot dog (which is at the bottom center) to do its 'business' for a moment and then write yogg on the dog poop symbol.
another idea would be to add this year's #1 bitcointalk pizza day contest from Ale88 to the pizza (bottom left)
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Let me kick-off this topic by sharing my thoughts. Since this is an evolving artwork, and the scope is to update it to depict the "Bitcoin forum’s 15th Anniversary", my opinion is not to permanently remove things, but rather to evolve them to represent the current status. (ok sometimes you/we might need to remove items to add new ones since the artwork space/area is limited)

Let me provide an example of the coldkeys/Yogg situation. In the other topic, we slightly discussed this, and I clearly understand the Krog's point of view, to remove all references to Yogg from the artwork. My opinion is that Yogg was (and still is) part of the forum history and -somehow- should still be included in the artwork. Hence instead of totally removing it, we should adapt it to the current situation.

Suggestion: At the part where it is written "Coldkeys", we should cross with an "X" (graffiti style) the word "Coldkeys" (the word should be still readable afterward), and replace it with "Icarus" (also graffiti style). Like someone went there with a graffiti can, crossed the "coldkeys" sign & wrote "Icarus" on the side (probably on top, inside the square to the left of the "collectibles" sign?).

Also, concerning the robot with the "Y" on the head (next to Krog robot), we could totally remove it from there and do the following: you can create a rubbish dump/rusty robot parts landfill and among some rusty robots spare parts laying around (hands, feet etc.) there would also be a robot head (with the "Y" mark)

Tl;dr:  We should evolve the artwork, by still preserving the past (since the past is still part of the history)

  I like your ideas very much...yes please throw Yogg on that garbage pile and do cross out coldkey with Icarus.

   Like the way this is already heading....we need some more good ideas.
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