Topic: justbit.io asks for KYC (their site say NO KYC) then confiscates my winnings - page 2. (Read 1292 times)

I think top sites will always have something like KYC when they need it. For example, if an address involved with a hacker's deposit to their site, they will need KYC; otherwise, they will get into trouble with the police later.

You don't need this forum just to find the casino you will be dealing is scam or not because a simple search in Google will drive you to whatever this casino is facing,
anyway you have already scammed and better use this as knowledge to never engage in any gambling site that you did not dig deeper, or better to ask this community first before dealing in any site in the future.

Op are right  I have come across as situation where it's stated no KYC but at the end I was facing KYC issue that make me losses my coin. They have some hidden information just like fiat bank operator not all information is written to be seen clearly you can only get to know you have signed in certain things you need not to when you have deep challenges they will reveal to you those hidden things.

I will blame you for just one reason, and that reason is that, you saw and read, and also understood what their terms or service said in the section you mentioned, which clearly stated that they have the right to request addictional kyc imformation from their customer for any withdrawals, "Any withdrawals" there simply means any withdrawals, doesn't matter whether you are withdrawing in crypto or not, and this automatically means that, the "no kyc for crypto players" banner they displayed on their home page is completely irrelevant.

If you sue this casino for example, what the lawyers will work with is what is written in their terms and conditions, not what is displayed on their home page, I personally do not see this as fair, but all the same, it's what it is.

When you saw and read and understand what they wrote in their terms of service about requesting kyc for ANY WITHDRAWALS, you simply should have just ignore the banner on their home page and look for another casino if you know that kyc is not your thing, but then, you went ahead to register, deposit and play, this is your mistake and I blame you for it.

This days, it's hard to find a casino where kyc is not present, and currently, if you find a casino that claims to be kyc free, doubt such casino, for the casino is either ran by scammers looking for all means to get people to deposit money the people will never be able to withdraw again, or the casino is desperate for customers and will do any thing to lure customers in.

Why didn't I find this forum earlier??? I fell into the same trap as the author of the thread.

This casino positions itself as a cryptocurrency casino without verifying the player’s identity, as indicated by the banner on the main page “NO KYC for crypto players”. However, according to the rules (42.1), the casino can request KYC at any time for any withdrawal, including when playing with cryptocurrencies.

I believed them and played with cryptocurrencies, but upon payment they demanded that I go through the KYC. If they had not lured me with an advertising banner, I would not have even registered because for me anonymity during the game is the most important thing! I am not going to provide documents, and my payment of $2200 is frozen.

In fact, Justbit is misleading new players by luring them in with false information.
 
p.s. A year has passed since the first message in this thread, and this damn banner is still hanging on the main page, which indicates that the casino is fraudulent.

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We have good gambling sites that have their announcement thread on this forum. If you are good to read the terms of service the casinos provided, it can save you from problems that can occur when you want to withdraw. I have not seen justbit.io announcement or signature campaign on this forum before. I will not advice anyone to use any casino that do not have signature campaign on this forum because gambling sites that can advertise is a sign that they have money.

You should use my site we don't ask for KYC ever

Even Outside the forum , actually majority of those scams are outside bitcointalk that is why we mostly hear their names.
when newbie account posted here about their experiences in such.
and Justbit.io is one of those that has no representative here but look at OP , making cases and accusation here trying that someone from the team will hear him lol.
but good to know that he already taken His deposit money.

that is exactly the point here mate, as OP looks got what he deposited yet the site behaviors shows that what if those account aren't providing thread here? meaning they will be scammed forever and won't get any amount in return?

stop collaborating in sites like this as they are not trustworthy .

Something like what I am wearing in my signature?  Roobet.io  is what you are calling different from those fraudulent mate ,
have tried it? for OP better check the site and surely you'll face nothing like this anymore .

Please do not speak well of this gambling scam company anymore. This kind of behavior, which seizes the prize money without waiting for players to provide documents, is fraudulent. There are too many such companies on forums.

Is this what they can say?  you can withdraw your deposit amount just like that?

it seems like other scam site that had just forced because of Bitcointalk presence and they have no choice but to release the deposit amount so there will be no Scam accusation to be pointed?

but for me OP  file a proper scam thread here, because site like this is not to be trusted completely .

and since you also mentioned that this is not about KYC, so meaning it is a clear confiscating of funds once players won against their site?

I would rather play in site that has a green flag here than this one , stay away from this site guys .

Most of platforms todays does have that similar terms which they would really be asking out some KYC if ever they would really be seeing some suspicious activity or what on which it would really be that a normal approach but if they would really be that showing off that they are that no kyc platform then they should stood into their words or ground and then when time comes that there would be some huge win
then this is where they would really be altering out their terms and changing up on something like this then this site should be boycot and been thrown up for some valid accusations so that people or players
would really be aware on what are the bullshit things that they've been doing. This isnt something that needed or we could really be having on this market.

This is why it would be always ideal that we should stick into platforms which are known or popular rather than on risking on depositing on sites or platforms which are new but
having these kind of behavior which is something unacceptable.

Here you have it, folks. Another casino using the KYC ploy to rob players who are trying to withdraw.

I absolutely doubt that justbit have looked at these 0.005 BTC, done some blockchain analysis and decided that this 0.005 BTC is fraudulent, involved in money laundering or anything at all criminal. OP, I suggest that you ask them for proof that you violated section 14 and that if they don't provide it, you'll be sounding the alarms everywhere. That's what I would do.

You can probably be sure that those coins won't come back either without taking a stab at their public reputation and/or a hell of a fight...and of probably all of your identigying information. I'm sorry for your loss.

This site is defrauding their crypto players if they implement KYC when they announced on their banners that no KYC for crypto players.    They should hold and be responsible for their announcement or advertisement.  If they intend to KYC crypto users, they at least remove the banner that advertises no KYC for crypto users first.  This way crypto users have no means of resisting the KYC or have a point of defense against their terms. 

I agree that a case like this is more likely a scam attempt of the casino in luring crypto players to their platform.

Always assume that they are lying if they are telling there's no kyc. Asking directly doesn't really help your situation when they are lying. Almost everyone of them comply with AML laws so they are required occasionally to do KYCs. And when they are working outside of areas that don't require for you to do kyc in any situation. Then assume that your money inside that casino is not protected by any legal entity either. It's just your trust to the casino and that they would deliver.

A lot of casinos use "no KYC on deposit" as a marketing strategy. You should have read the rules of their casino website before you made an account and deposited your money there. It baffles me that there are so many people who completely ignore the Terms and Conditions and then proceed to lazily do as they like before they are faced with reality.

Obviously there is no such thing as a legitimate and licensed non-KYC casino because they have to follow laws and regulations, otherwise they would not be allowed to offer gambling services, especially in countries which strictly demand such regulations to be implemented.

Right now your only choice is to present your KYC to them. If you live in a country which is restricted by their ToS then they will disable your account. You will still have a right to take back your full deposited fund amounts, but not your winnings.

With regulations and authorities right up their nose, casinos are compelled to ask their customers for KYC so that there are basically no cases of money laundering and other illegal activities and they comply with the AML and other rules imposed by the authorities especially if they have acquired licenses to operate legally.

Users who don't like doing KYC or providing any personal information will likely be out of options very soon since almost every casino, even the ones that aren't currently having this rule, will start asking for KYC from their customers.

While this is common sense, at the same time if a casino lies about their policies so blatantly then I need to wonder what other information are they hiding from their gamblers, are they manipulating their games as well? Do they have hidden conditions on the bonuses that you receive? And as such I discourage anyone from gambling at a casino that is so open when it comes to their supposed KYC policy, only to change it when it does not suits them anymore.

Reading up TOS is the most important and if possible then make out some screenshot and put up a date which do serve as a proof if ever they do make out some claims that they are totally that KYC-less kind of gambling site or company on which on the time that you do make up some huge win then they wont really be asking out for such verification or condition. Its true that most casinos now are really that having on the same terms and conditions on which they could really be able to ask out some verification if they do see something suspicious or simply if they do wanted to do so.

This is why it would be always that ideal on sticking into the current popular ones that even if they do have that kind of TOS, the  rate of verfication isnt really that something you can called to be shady.
There are still sites or places on which you could really make still some good game and doesnt worry about whether you would really be getting paid or not.

Yes, friends, most casinos will never say that they will ask KYC to users who get big wins, there are even some casinos that state in their TOS that KYC is not needed, but when gamblers win large amounts, they will ask for it as a withdrawal requirement that will be done so that reading the TOS also cannot be a certainty when it comes to KYC questions.
I have encountered cases like this several times and it is very concerning because gamblers who should be able to enjoy their winnings must be made difficult by KYC, even though at the beginning they played quietly and comfortably while still gambling anonymously.