Topic: List of useful Bitcoin block explorers - page 7. (Read 6453 times)

I've voted now, too and currently, 4 people have voted already.  

Indeed, I have addressed the issue in our survey topic and in case of a very unlikely occurence of outcomes we could arrange a runoff vote.

I agree here, 14 days are a very fair and generous time for our survey.  

Yay!

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Yup, I think it will cover all we need!

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Thank you for taking your time and creating this survey, 1miau! I already made my vote. It seems I was the first one, hehe.
Needless to say, those which will vote to keep "Comments" column must also vote against having comments "hover" format and vice-versa (I hope there will not be contradictory votes).


I believe that 14 days are more than enough for having a good image of what voters want to see changed / kept in the table from OP.
Once again, great job!

Dear "List of useful Bitcoin block explorers" contributors!

Our survey is now up and everyone is invited to vote!
People can select up to 8 answers because I don't see a better option to put such a poll into one topic (otherwise we would would need seeral topics, making it very messy).

Plz vote here: Survey regarding our Bitcoin Blockexplorer topic
You can also leave a comment / suggestion / advertisement for any of the options. 

We also need to specify how long our poll will be running.
My favorite is 14 days. 

Nice catch, I've removed it and now it's tidied up. 

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But that would add more options to our survey.
We can do it according to your suggestion and add an option to vote for a single mark.
Our survey would look like that:

- Rating from Blockchair Bitcoin Block Explorer 7 points?
- Rating from Blockchair Bitcoin Block Explorer 8 points?
- Rating from Blockchair Bitcoin Block Explorer 9 points?
- Rating from Blockchair Bitcoin Block Explorer 10 points?
(suggested by GazetaBitcoin)

- Removing "comments" column from our table - Yes
- Removing "comments" column from our table - No
(suggested by several members)

- Including comments in "hover format" - Yes
- Including comments in "hover format" - No
(suggested by SFR10)

I've also added 7 points if someone wants to lower the rating for whatever reason. 
Did I got it right?

Awesome! I added your note as well.

By the way, for consistency purposes I'd suggest one more small change: replace


with


Practically, I deleted the ": " after "*", in order to be same alignment and spacing as in the case of "**".

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Basically, I'd say to let everyone vote the preferred mark for this explorer... That would simplify the two questions into a single one


In rest everything is correct. Let's do this

Done, I've added it below my explanation where I've linked PrivacyG's contribution.  


Done as well, dear GazetaBitcoin.  

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Regarding our survey, we have agreed to collect votes for the following issues:

- Rating from Blockchair Bitcoin Block Explorer exactly 8/10 points?
- Rating from Blockchair Bitcoin Block Explorer over 8/10 points?
(suggested by GazetaBitcoin)

- Removing "comments" column from our table - Yes
- Removing "comments" column from our table - No
(suggested by several members)

- Including comments in "hover format" - Yes
- Including comments in "hover format" - No
(suggested by SFR10)



Am I right here?
Did I forget any point?

Okay


Oh gawd... =)))

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After some struggles with BBCode (can't be else, can it?) I also updated the translated topic by including the column suggested by PrivacyG (don't worry, the emoji stayed!), as I was curious to see how it looks in Romanian as well. I know that some more changes will follow but I had to add this update anyway so I did it now. Surprisingly, it looks great and no other adjustment was needed.

What I would further recommend is to either (1) delete the "**" placed next to "Partially", as nowhere in OP is explained what "**" means or (2) place the "**" next to "Works without JS" (thus it will look like this: "Works without JS**") and replace


with


(Also please don't forget to change "PrivacyG" from OP with "PrivacyG" )

This way, the "**" will also be explained somewhere in OP.

Additionally, I'd also suggest replacing "Works without JS" with "Works without JS?".


Looking forward for next update!

Ok, I'll start formatting next weekend and post an update here when it's done.  

Since it's not taking too much space, I would leave it there but we can include it in the survey as well and ask if Bitcointalk members would like to have it removed.

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I can add it in the survey as well but after removing the comments, we would have enough space to leave it there.

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Noted, dear GazetaBitcoin.  
I'll try to arrange a survey next weekend.  

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That's true but who knows if there won't be a better sprinter in 10 / 20 / 30 years?  
And in case we'd get a better sprinter, we need some numbers to give out "above" our current top number.
Maybe we can make it like for earthquakes? 1.00 point increase is 10x increase?


Usain Bolt is retired, isn't he?  
Blockchair is not retired yet.  




Well, here we go, dear GazetaBitcoin.  
It seems to be a female chicken.


Noted, I can try to convince him, too.



// blushing  

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We'll re-arrange it anyways next weekend, so it should be solved by then.  

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// blushing   (once again)
I've copied it into my OP.  

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I'll include it in our survey as well.  

Well, if you want so much to be politically correct, who am I to stop you? Seriously now, I think it's a good idea. Let's make a poll about it.


=)))

Picture this: we all know that Usain Bolt is fastest man alive, right? Now let's suppose he did not run 100m in 9.58" but in 15". And nobody else would run this distance faster than him. Therefore we would still consider him fastest man alive, right? No matter that he runs 100m in 15" and we actually know that it's possible to do it in 9.58". Does that make sense? Now imagine this analogy regarding Blockchair. Nevertheless, a poll with more users voting what they think about Blockchair is a fair choice.


ChickenG

(By the way, in Romanian chicken is a substantive having also feminine gender  )


Then we must coerce icopress somehow to not cancel this category.


Yay!


Pardon my blasphemy   Emoji must stay!


It seems the 1% trim worked just fine. I noticed the "as" from BitcoinWhosWho, which was not shown earlier, is shown now, as you placed it on the second row. Besides, the "t" from "edit", which was also not shown, appears well now.



1miau, you are tables master! I bow down! Can we have this update implemented in OP now? (I took the screenshot from post #141.)


For me, the comment is fine as it is now. Let's see though what PrivacyG says about this.

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I love complex BBCode the way I love wearing winter pyjama trousers during hot summer  


I merited your proposal, as this feature of BBcode seems very exotic to me, as I only saw it used very rarely. I like it! However, it comes together with the lack of functionality on mobiles.

Having this in mind, together with the fact that 1miau already found a way for trimming the table enough (the power of 1% is so incredible, as always!) in order to still have all information shown, I guess we can use it like this (meaning the way 1miau trimmed it)? Comments column can still be left as it is, as now all text is shown... Practically we reached already what we were trying to obtain: implementing PrivacyG's new column while having whole table displayed properly.

Indeed, it's not working for mobile phones, still I think that if you use this trick at least for the dates (and also make the header more condensed/multiline) you can at least from there squeeze more space. And the comments also.. they're useful, but not crucial, hence one can live without them on mobile.

I also agree that features like this tend to go unnoticed by most users... Since it'd only benefit desktop users and all of those comments are subjective, then IMO it'd be better to save some space by removing that section.
^{- Come to think of it, since the usefulness column shows subjective ratings, perhaps something similar should also happen to them. What do you think?}

Unfortunately, it doesn't work on mobile devices ^{[I even tried pairing a Bluetooth mouse while I was in the "desktop site" mode of Chrome, but it didn't work]}.

That's a great solution and I could try to find some time next weekend to implement it but in my opinion, many readers won't notice such a hovering feature, even if we add a bold explanation.
I don't know as well if it's an option for the mobile version. I've not checked it but hovering might be not possible for mobile devices?

I can implement it as it's a really clean solution and it would help a lot to gain more space buy maybe it's already enough to remove the comment section entirely as it's pretty meaningless sometimes and I can just link the comments from the members who initially presented each explorer?
Opinions?

If there's support for your suggestion, I would implement it, of course. 

@GazetaBitcoin and @1miau:
I do know both of you probably hate dealing with complicated codes, so I tried to simplify the table in a manner that it could show everything without being too wide in smaller resolutions...

• We can create a hover box by using the abbreviation tag in order to combine the "Usefulness and Comments" columns.
  ^{- Comments will appear whenever they hover their mouse pointer over each of the ratings.}

e.g. this is the result for the row that has the longest comment:

Name (link)	Bech32 / Bech32m (P2TR) supported?	SegWit (P2SH) identifiable?*	Usefulness (subjective rating)	Works without JS	Rated by
________________________	______________________________	_______________________	__________________________	______________	________________
BitInfoCharts	Yes (09/2022) / No (11/2022)	No (09/2022)	7 / 10 Points	Partially**	ajiz138

I don't know why I only rated it with 8/10 (but Blockchair is my favorite Explorer).
Maybe I wanted to see some more improvements?  


You are right, maybe we can make a public survey.  


But, would it be legitimate to change it? If we change it, everyone would come up and try to change ratings?  
In my opinion, we need a public survey to be legitimate.


Sheeesh.
We need to have space for improvements, dear GazetaBitcoin.  


My favorite would be to arrange a public survey and by doing so, we could review the public opinion. Do you agree here?  

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I have to disagree here because we are on the internet. And as far as we know today, Bitcointalk is only an online place, where we can exist, dear Gentlemen / Gentlewomen / Gentlecats. If these platforms cease to exists, so will we.  

And I don't beleive, that PrivacyG is a chicken. If so, it would be called ChickenG. And it would be neutral (it).


Nominating PrivacyG at Miss BitcoinTalk category during BCA 2023 would be a legitimate consideration, dear GazetaBitcoin.


It's probably me, dear GazetaBitcoin.  

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Done, I've implemented a part of your suggestions to trim it 1% more.  


Deleting the emoji??!!  
Are you dense?
We don't delete the emoji, dear GazetaBitcoin!  


Yes, it helps, should be properly formatted now?
Plz confirm, Sirs!

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Ok, many thanks for the input. So, what's our conclusion?
In our current explanation, it says Atomic explorer is mirroring Trezor explorer, which should be accurate?

Loooooool but you added Blockchair to the list Yet you talk like someone else rated it only with 8/10 I also believe it deserves a better mark. And, changing it is very simple, as it's only up tp you for 2 reasons: (1) you are topic's author, thus you can change marks anyway (smile) and (2) this explorer was suggested by you, thus you are not changing the mark against someone else's will, if you believe it should have a better mark.

From my perspective I'd go even more far than 9/10 and I'd give it 10/10 for the following reason: it's the best one we have! As a consequence, all other ones will be compared with best one, right? Therefore, if it is best one we have, it actually deserves 10/10, no matter that it can be improved here and there. If another explorer will come up, having all Blockchair features and also some more nice additions then it will be marked with 10/10 and change Blockchair's mark to 9/10. Does this make sense?

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Oh yes, I know, I know...

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You are also right "Intimitate" means "Privacy", while "Intimitatea" means "The Privacy". And it is, indeed, a substantive of feminine gender. Unfortunately, the gender of our nyms don't also reveal our real genders Yet I have my reasons for also believing that PrivacyG is a chick   Now it came into my mind to vote PrivacyG at Miss BitcoinTalk category during BCA 2023.

Ohhhh, shoot, I forgot that icopress took most wrong decision of his entire life (facepalm)  

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You trimmed it well, padawan! And it's almost there! 99%! I will explain and also propose a solution for having it perfectly fitting the screen!

Take a look at this (this is how it shows on 1080p):



As far as I see, on 1080p, the comments section show only 96 characters (I counted the characters from this string: "movement of our balance. If using no-JS, click a random TX, Block or Address and edi" -- which represents the visible part of the text). The line containing "edit" word has 87 characters. The other truncated line (from BitcoinWho'sWho) has 98 characters (the word "as" is not shown). As a consequence, we are in need of 2-3 more characters for "Comments" column.



As shown in the above picture, I think we can shorten "Usefulness" column with 3 characters, by deleting that emoji. Having "Usefulness" column shortened then, maybe "Comments" column can be expanded with 3 characters.

I hope this helps.

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Later edit: PrivacyG has one more suggestion but I guess shyness prevailed ()). He (?) said that he believes that Atomic explorer is not actually redirecting to Trezor explorer website. Instead, he believes that Atomic copies Trezor's website and that there is only a very small difference between the two websites.

Same here, I need to scroll as well.

I'm viewing it from my largest device but I'm sure it won't get better on smaller devices or even mobile devices, so I've cosen the approach to add PrivacyG's contribution below.
We can still change the table or add the column on the right side but it might be cut off entirely then.

+1  

You are right, I need to spell PrivacyG's name properly, my dear GazetaBitcoin.  
I'll do it correctly from now on and in Romanian it's Intimitate(a)G's (because PrivacyG might be female  ).  

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We could do it like that, if it's ok for everyone:


Bitcoin block explorers:

Name (link)	Bech32 / Bech32m (P2TR) supported?	SegWit (P2SH) identifiable?*	Usefulness (subjective rating)	Works without JS	Rated by	Comments
________________________	____________________________	_______________	___________________	______________	________________	________________________________________________________________________
Blockchair.com	Yes (09/2019) / Yes (05/2022)	Yes (09/2019)	8 / 10 Points	Yes	1miau
Trezor Bitcoin Explorer	Yes (11/2019) / Yes (05/2022)	Yes (11/2019)	7.5 / 10 Points	Partially**	Saint-loup	The only one with Blockchair to manage zpub keys
mempool	Yes (10/2020) / Yes (05/2022)	Yes (10/2020)	7.5 / 10 Points	No	SFR10	Detailed and great UI
OKLink	Yes (08/2022) / Yes (08/2022)	Yes (08/2022)	7.5 / 10 Points	No	SFR10	It quickly became one of my favorites!
bitaps.com	Yes (09/2019) / Yes (05/2022)	Yes (09/2019)	7 / 10 Points	No	1miau
BTC.com	Yes (09/2019) / Yes (05/2022)	Yes (09/2019)	7 / 10 Points	No	1miau
chainflyer.bitflyer.jp	Yes (12/2019) / Yes (05/2022)	Yes (12/2019)	7 / 10 Points	No	Alveus
BitcoinWho'sWho	Yes (09/2022) / Yes (09/2022)	Yes (09/2022)	7 / 10 Points	No	GazetaBitcoin	Very efficient, including very interesting features; now it supports Bech32 addresses as well
BitcoinExplorer	Yes (08/2022) / Yes (08/2022)	Yes (08/2022)	7 / 10 Points	Partially**	SFR10	Simple and clean.
bitquery	Yes (09/2022) / Yes (09/2022)	Yes (09/2022)	7 / 10 Points	No	Rizzrack	Can separate ingoing from outgoing tx and has a very cool visual representation of the flow of coins to and from a certain address
TokenView	Yes (09/2022) / Yes (09/2022)	Yes (09/2022)	7 / 10 Points	No	ajiz138	Interesting block explorer, and there's a balance chart underneath.
BitInfoCharts	Yes (09/2022) / No (11/2022)	No (09/2022)	7 / 10 Points	Partially (see Comments)	ajiz138	This explorer can see the top and busiest wallets, there is a graph that can see the movement of our balance. If using no-JS, click a random TX, Block or Address and edit the URL in your browser to view the desired information.
SoChain	Yes (09/2019) / Yes (05/2022)	Yes (09/2021)	6 / 10 Points	No	1miau
Blockcypher.com	Yes (09/2019) / Yes (05/2022)	No (09/2019)	6 / 10 Points	Partially**	1miau
cryptoID	Yes (12/2019) / No (10/2022)	Yes (12/2019)	6 / 10 Points	No	SFR10
ViaBTC.com	Yes (09/2019) / No (10/2022)	No (09/2019)	6 / 10 Points	No	1miau
Btcscan	Yes (08/2022) / Yes (08/2022)	Yes (08/2022)	6 / 10 Points	Yes	SFR10
Blockchain.com	Yes (11/2019) / Yes (10/2022)	Yes (12/2019)	5 / 10 Points	Partially**	1miau
Localbitcoinschain.com	Yes (12/2019) / No (10/2022)	Yes (12/2019)	5 / 10 Points	No	SFR10	Great UI but it doesn't support addresses with large # of TX's. Currently unavailable.
BitcoinBlockExplorer	Yes (08/2022) / Yes (08/2022)	No (08/2022)	5 / 10 Points	No	SFR10
Learnmeabitcoin	Yes (10/2022) / No (10/2022)	No (10/2022)	5 / 10 Points	No	ajiz138	Quite simple and nothing more than that. Currently a few k Blocks behind.
Atomic	Yes (08/2022) / Yes (08/2022)	No (08/2022)	4.5 / 10 Points	Partially**	SFR10	Outdated UI / currently mirroring Trezor Explorer
CoinCap	Yes (10/2020) / No (10/2022)	No (10/2020)	4 / 10 Points	No	SFR10
Yogh	Yes (10/2022) / Yes (10/2022)	No (10/2022)	4 / 10 Points	No	ajiz138	Quite simple but less interesting
Blockexplorer.one	Yes (12/2019) / Yes (10/2022)	No (12/2019)	3 / 10 Points	No	LTU_btc
Blockpath	Yes (12/2019) / Yes (05/2022)	No (12/2019)	3 / 10 Points	No	SFR10	Outdated UI
Blockstream	Yes (11/2019) / Yes (05/2022)	Yes (11/2019)	2 / 10 Points	?	pooya87	good details, blocks visitors from my country
Insight	Yes (12/2019) / Yes (05/2022)	No (12/2019)	1 / 10 Points	No	SFR10
Walletexplorer.com	Yes (09/2022) / Yes (05/2022)	No (09/2019)	0 / 10 Points (avoid)	Yes	1miau	Risk of getting your IP tracked, not recommended to use
Spiral	Yes (09/2022) / Yes (10/2022)	No (09/2022)	x / 10 Points	No	cygan	beta phase ... only working for addresses with balance right now

Any opinions, if the layout above is decent, are welcome.  

Thank you for the support.  I did not even consider it would look different on a 1080p display.  I am using Tor Browser, which is by default trying to avoid any finger print.  One of the measures is it runs under a certain window size by default (around half the screen of a 1080p display).  So on my browser, it looks fine.

If it gets distorted on your display, maybe it is not a good idea to add my column to OP.  Does my table fit better on your screen if we shorten the Usefulness column by a few underlines?  I am sure there are a few columns we can tighten up to make more space.

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Regards,
PrivacyG

Sadly, this is true. Yesterday, when I saw PrivacyG's update of the table it looked seemed to look fine... However, today I inspected it again after your reply, as I did not understand why columns should be smaller. I observed now that in its new shape, the column for comments is not fully shown on the screen (at least on 1080p resolution). Practically, in order to see everything written there you have to drag all text to the right... Maybe it is shown fine on higher resolution but most users have 1080p therefore the table should be kept in its actual form.


That also works I added this update to the translated topic as well. By the way, make sure you write PrivacyG's name properly, my dear 1miau. The name should be written between tt - /tt BBCode 

Yeah, I didn't check it properly yesterday just quickly edited OP and even then, my internet connection was lost so a few changes were lost...
It's not your fault I have been tired yersterday as well.  

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Most likely, because of BBcode, when tables are getting too big and get messy.  

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It's a very valuable contribution and I would like to add it to my OP but each table column would even get smaller, so I've added a sentence below:

PrivacyG has made a list of all Block Explorers above working without Java Script. You can find PrivacyG's contribution here to find out more about it.

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Good question.  
I don't really have an answer for your question but as we all know nothing is perfect, I believe there are always few improvements to implement.
Maybe Blockchair could also be rated 9/10 but for whatever reason, it's currently 8/10.

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I can also add it to my table directly but that would cause each table column to get even smaller...
I've added it currently as a comment below.
What's everyone's opinion on this topic?

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1miau is tired, dear GazetaBitcoin.  
And it's lot of BBCode which is quite a mess sometimes (I believe you know it from your translations list.  ).

I've been using blockchain.com/explorer for a long time due to old habits, but I couldn't get used to its interface after their visual update. Also sometimes information such as new confirmation is updated too late. Blockchair.com is the site I use as an alternative.
I didn't even know there were so many explorers. There's no harm in having too much explorers though. People don't change their habits very often.