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March 22, 2022, 05:21:32 AM
#49
Is very strange indeed, but according to LTC CASINO. they allow people to have many accounts, I don't understand that. most of the conflicts I see here on the forum is precisely because people complain and casino owners say they are using too many accounts, but at LTC CASINO things seem to be different, they allow too many accounts, I also don't understand why people need it have many accounts


The purpose of using many accounts mainly scam/spam by taking bonus. But as the casino offering many accounts by the same person that may stands for they are just showing they have many users and/or they are insisting users to create as many account they can and while there is a big chance they will scam those people.

The casino offers zero bonuses, zero!!
on my side i opened 4 accounts as when i needed a break as i was loosing all the time i put the accounts in time out for the max time. Accounts were never used together i always one account at time as i blocked them myself and open new ones when i felt ready to play again. It is not like they make it sound as i neve used the accounts together, they really trying hard to picture me like i am the scammer when they are advertising the multiple accounts.

They clearly benefit for people having multiple accounts and they raised an issue when i won, but when i was losing there was not a single issue.
Also when i first sign in the player could opt for time out option and after 2 months they remove the time out option and when i asked the chat operator to close my account he said it was not possible to close the account , yet when they had to pay my wins they easily banned my IP.
I never seeing anything like that.
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March 21, 2022, 10:12:10 AM
#48
Is very strange indeed, but according to LTC CASINO. they allow people to have many accounts, I don't understand that. most of the conflicts I see here on the forum is precisely because people complain and casino owners say they are using too many accounts, but at LTC CASINO things seem to be different, they allow too many accounts, I also don't understand why people need it have many accounts


The purpose of using many accounts mainly scam/spam by taking bonus. But as the casino offering many accounts by the same person that may stands for they are just showing they have many users and/or they are insisting users to create as many account they can and while there is a big chance they will scam those people.
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March 21, 2022, 05:13:26 AM
#47
Kindly stop replying to my messages i do not need your abuse , if anyone reading this can help me to block this user i would appreciate as im not here to become the punch-ball of a stranger who have nothing better to do do than offend people to stroke his ego.
There is an ignore button under every user's profile. Feel free to put me on your ignore list if you don't want to read my messages.

No one is abusing you, certainly not me. But like I said yesterday, you do seem ignorant to realize the difference.
To make it clearer and easier for you to understand, let me say it in simple words. If the investigation proves that the casino unlawfully froze your assets and tried to cheat you, I will be the first to support you and voice my opinion that you should be paid what you are owed. On the other hand, if you are a cheater who took advantage of a vulnerability to cheat the casino, I will be glad if you don't see a penny of your winnings.

Do you understand now how it works?   
I support just actions and hope that the truth will come out. I couldn't care less if you put me on ignore. Even if you do, I will still support you getting your money if that is the right thing to do.   
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March 21, 2022, 04:42:28 AM
#46
Dear Sir/Madam and shitposter,

I will follow any thread I decide to follow. Feel free to not follow me while I follow whatever it is that pleases me. Thank you Madam miss.
You are a semi-illiterate shitposter with below average understanding of the English language. That makes it impossible for you to follow a thread like this and understand what I have written. May I suggest Telegram. There are plenty of rockets and memes of dogs. That should better suit your level. If you believe that I have sided with any party in this particular case, your intelligence is very questionable. I am sorry you don't have the brain capacity to follow the thread.

Have a good night.

but it's clear this person has sided the casino which i am not bothered,
If BCsports is not your alt account, it seems you aren't that much cleverer either if you interpret my posts as "siding with the casino". Instead of playing slot games all day, try reading a book. Your logical thinking might improve so you can understand my posts.

Kindly stop replying to my messages i do not need your abuse , if anyone reading this can help me to block this user i would appreciate as im not here to become the punch-ball of a stranger who have nothing better to do do than offend people to stroke his ego.
Not today or never Satan.
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March 21, 2022, 01:42:56 AM
#45
It has been 3 weeks i have won and i personally do not know how long this sort of investigations work as never found myself in a situation like that and of course the situation is stressful and i shouldn't be made feel like i am doing anything wrong, and the casino said this a standard procedure for them.

I actually already sent an email to wazman and they haven't replied yet , thank you very much and not worries i am on it as this is a lot of my money so understandably you might not understand how i am feeling about it.

unfortunately this has been a black spot on the internet stuff, some casinos and exchanges are always lacking in speed in solving customer problems.. i wonder what kind of super investigation is this that takes 2 or 3 weeks to finish and give the results? We are not talking about war crimes investigation or a murder or kidnapping to justify that it is something complex and for that reason it needs to take some time, we are talking about investigation of a possible problem in a game. Is something unacceptable this whole delay

Exactly.
If players  doubts that the games are rigged or they think the games are not provably  fair there is nothing  that can be done, but when the players  wins  the casino think u cheated.
As I mentioned  before i don't have issues  about the  investigation as i know  they will never  find a bug made by me or even less  luckily  that I made or use a software.
What  the casino  should  do is at least give a real eta as 3 months is unreasonable  time ,especially  because  I have played only one  slots and signed in this site for 2 months and I dud not play every  day fir 2 months.
I personally don't  trust the casino because I had to open a scam and a complaint  post i  two  site for the casino  to let me know why they blocked my account. If I didn't  my account would have  been blocked without even receiving an email of explanation  and this is wrong.
The casino must be transparent and respect  the fact that me the player should be kept informed.
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March 20, 2022, 05:03:23 PM
#44
It has been 3 weeks i have won and i personally do not know how long this sort of investigations work as never found myself in a situation like that and of course the situation is stressful and i shouldn't be made feel like i am doing anything wrong, and the casino said this a standard procedure for them.

I actually already sent an email to wazman and they haven't replied yet , thank you very much and not worries i am on it as this is a lot of my money so understandably you might not understand how i am feeling about it.

unfortunately this has been a black spot on the internet stuff, some casinos and exchanges are always lacking in speed in solving customer problems.. i wonder what kind of super investigation is this that takes 2 or 3 weeks to finish and give the results? We are not talking about war crimes investigation or a murder or kidnapping to justify that it is something complex and for that reason it needs to take some time, we are talking about investigation of a possible problem in a game. Is something unacceptable this whole delay
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March 20, 2022, 03:29:15 PM
#43
Dear Sir/Madam and shitposter,

I will follow any thread I decide to follow. Feel free to not follow me while I follow whatever it is that pleases me. Thank you Madam miss.
You are a semi-illiterate shitposter with below average understanding of the English language. That makes it impossible for you to follow a thread like this and understand what I have written. May I suggest Telegram. There are plenty of rockets and memes of dogs. That should better suit your level. If you believe that I have sided with any party in this particular case, your intelligence is very questionable. I am sorry you don't have the brain capacity to follow the thread.

Have a good night.

but it's clear this person has sided the casino which i am not bothered,
If BCsports is not your alt account, it seems you aren't that much cleverer either if you interpret my posts as "siding with the casino". Instead of playing slot games all day, try reading a book. Your logical thinking might improve so you can understand my posts.
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March 20, 2022, 02:45:07 PM
#42
I don't think much has changed in the two days since your last post in this thread. Do you have reasons to believe that something has happened in the meantime? The last post on the Casino Guru forum suggests that your data has been sent to the responsible rep in the complaints department.

I can only repeat what I have understood from reading their previous response. The ETA time depends on the investigation and data they receive by the gaming provider. LTC Casino can't possibly know how long that will take. Wazdan might send the requested details tomorrow or in 2 months from now. Put pressure on Wazdan to submit the complete history of all the rounds you played on LTC Casino. That's what LTC casino wants to see and investigate.
he didn't deposit his money on warden or any other provider its LTCcasino . if you worried about the notifications  stop following the thread
he have every right to push etc casino not warden warden will say who are you ?
not  sire the reason you trying to protect that casino but the players until he get his money he have every right to follow them here and everywhere ltccasino who have to put pressure on what you call warden
not the player

solution for you if you bothered a lot by notifications go to your settings and unfollow it



Thank you.
My last post was actually addressed to the casino and not this person  that keeps putting me down,but every-time i write something he's annoyed . unfortunately the casino never bother to reply to any of my email and this the only way i can kind of communicate with them.

I do not feel is unreasonable to wanted to be updated and surely do not want to bother anyone , but it's clear this person has sided the casino which i am not bothered, i know the truth and  all i want is the casino to keep me updated and informed.

it is my money, the money lost and the money won and the truth will come out but my biggest fear is the honestly of the casino and till now they haven't been able to prove i have cheated and i feel they just buying time for not pay me at the end.
I honestly do not understand why the casino ignored me till i actually made the matter public, and this is  in my eyes are the biggest red flags.

Anyways , thank you as is it is nice not be be judged till proven of being guilty.

Best regards.
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March 20, 2022, 05:53:50 AM
#41
Firstly they did not ask in the past few days  to their game provider as they received the first checks from Wazdam  after week one that i have won therefore i am asking to know if they know how long it takes normally since they said is a normal procedure.
They have already answered you this. Why would they need to ask the game provider again yesterday, today, or tomorrow. Let me quote that part:

Presently, we keep expecting a more detailed response from the studio. We have disabled all Wazdan games at LTC Casino pending the investigative findings. Although the provider insists that there was no malfunction during the specified rounds, we consider this measure reasonable based on our previous experience.

We cannot exclude the possibility that the provider may not be aware of the malfunction until it is pushed to conduct a more detailed analysis. It is our understanding that the provider's own investigation is currently underway, as we requested detailed information about the player's bets two weeks ago and still waiting for the answer.


The game history at casino guru was sent few days ago, but not at wazdan , or maybe you know something i do not know and i am not sure why me asking the casino would really bother you as every-time i write something you seem really bothered.
I know only what I can read in this thread. I am not bothered by the issue. Every time you quote, mention me, or reply to one of my posts, I get a notification from a bot. I check those notifications regularly and reply back if I think there is something to say. That's why you are seeing many posts from me here.

And I have taken a personal interest in this particular topic because I want to see how it plays out, who is right, and who is lying. I occasionally check the scam accusation and reputation threads and get myself involved if I find something interesting.

It has been 3 weeks i have won and i personally do not know how long this sort of investigations work as never found myself in a situation like that...
They have answered that as well. Up to 3 months or sooner depending on how fast the other party sends them the requested data. That was valid before, it's still valid now, and will be tomorrow.
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March 20, 2022, 04:27:25 AM
#40
I don't think much has changed in the two days since your last post in this thread. Do you have reasons to believe that something has happened in the meantime? The last post on the Casino Guru forum suggests that your data has been sent to the responsible rep in the complaints department.

I can only repeat what I have understood from reading their previous response. The ETA time depends on the investigation and data they receive by the gaming provider. LTC Casino can't possibly know how long that will take. Wazdan might send the requested details tomorrow or in 2 months from now. Put pressure on Wazdan to submit the complete history of all the rounds you played on LTC Casino. That's what LTC casino wants to see and investigate.


Firstly they did not ask in the past few days  to their game provider as they received the first checks from Wazdam  after week one that i have won therefore i am asking to know if they know how long it takes normally since they said is a normal procedure.

The game history at casino guru was sent few days ago, but not at wazdan , or maybe you know something i do not know and i am not sure why me asking the casino would really bother you as every-time i write something you seem really bothered.

It has been 3 weeks i have won and i personally do not know how long this sort of investigations work as never found myself in a situation like that and of course the situation is stressful and i shouldn't be made feel like i am doing anything wrong, and the casino said this a standard procedure for them.

I actually already sent an email to wazman and they haven't replied yet , thank you very much and not worries i am on it as this is a lot of my money so understandably you might not understand how i am feeling about it.

Thanks for your compassionate words once again.
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March 20, 2022, 02:31:06 AM
#39
I don't think much has changed in the two days since your last post in this thread. Do you have reasons to believe that something has happened in the meantime? The last post on the Casino Guru forum suggests that your data has been sent to the responsible rep in the complaints department.

I can only repeat what I have understood from reading their previous response. The ETA time depends on the investigation and data they receive by the gaming provider. LTC Casino can't possibly know how long that will take. Wazdan might send the requested details tomorrow or in 2 months from now. Put pressure on Wazdan to submit the complete history of all the rounds you played on LTC Casino. That's what LTC casino wants to see and investigate.
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March 19, 2022, 11:22:51 AM
#38
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March 17, 2022, 03:00:03 PM
#37
Why are they taking so long to finish this investigation? I don't believe they have hundreds of clients with a lot of problems that they have to investigate and that's why they're taking a long time to investigate the OP case.
The length of the proceedings doesn't depend solely on the casino. It depends on Wazdan - the game provider. They have said that Wazdan has only verified a couple of the rounds that OP played. LTC CASINO has asked that his entire history gets checked because they are suspicious. My guess it that as soon as the game provider sends them the data they need, we will have more info on the case.

The representative of LTC casino mentioned that
We allow VPN, multiple accounts and we will never ask for KYC. In this case multiple accounting is just an additional prove of possible cheating - OP played ONLY ONE slot for 16+ hours in a row and used several accounts playing same slot.
That is true. All the accounts they found allegedly show similar patterns, so they are suspecting that OP used automated software or something worse. The words that should be highlighted are suspecting and possible

@bambolina, kindly stop making the long replies here. Those aren't going to increase the speed of this investigation.
I agree. And please stop posting multiple posts in a row. You are just increasing the workload of the forum administration who has to merge your replies into one post. You can quote multiple people in the same post just like I did here.

Thanks for the advice i'll do that . didn't know long post could have been an issue. Apologies for that.

I have not worries about the game provider  finding an automated software or something even worse as u said, they will put light in the matter if they are really doing the checks.

As long the casino does  the things honestly i am safe. There is not way in earth they can find anything illegal from my side, i wouldn't fight it i was in the wrong.
Again the two jackpot between a day was a surprise to me as well but i simply thought was due the amount of hours and money i have spent and luck.
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March 17, 2022, 02:25:02 PM
#36
Why are they taking so long to finish this investigation? I don't believe they have hundreds of clients with a lot of problems that they have to investigate and that's why they're taking a long time to investigate the OP case.
The length of the proceedings doesn't depend solely on the casino. It depends on Wazdan - the game provider. They have said that Wazdan has only verified a couple of the rounds that OP played. LTC CASINO has asked that his entire history gets checked because they are suspicious. My guess it that as soon as the game provider sends them the data they need, we will have more info on the case.

The representative of LTC casino mentioned that
We allow VPN, multiple accounts and we will never ask for KYC. In this case multiple accounting is just an additional prove of possible cheating - OP played ONLY ONE slot for 16+ hours in a row and used several accounts playing same slot.
That is true. All the accounts they found allegedly show similar patterns, so they are suspecting that OP used automated software or something worse. The words that should be highlighted are suspecting and possible

@bambolina, kindly stop making the long replies here. Those aren't going to increase the speed of this investigation.
I agree. And please stop posting multiple posts in a row. You are just increasing the workload of the forum administration who has to merge your replies into one post. You can quote multiple people in the same post just like I did here.
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March 17, 2022, 12:29:04 PM
#35
But like I mentioned above. This is not an issue of having multiple accounts and OP should stop mentioning that. The LTC Casino rep only did it to highlight that they noticed similar patterns on all of those accounts. ~
The representative of LTC casino mentioned that

We allow VPN, multiple accounts and we will never ask for KYC. In this case multiple accounting is just an additional prove of possible cheating - OP played ONLY ONE slot for 16+ hours in a row and used several accounts playing same slot.
LTC Casino has suspected the use of multiple accounts as ‘possible attempt of cheating’. There is no problem for being a residence of UK, LTC casino aren't going to ask you (OP) to verify your identity. They don't need the information that why you are living in UK and where are you actually belongs to. They only need time to check and verify your bets fully. These verification process takes long time as it depends on the game provider.

@bambolina, kindly stop making the long replies here. Those aren't going to increase the speed of this investigation. We (the forum members) will keep our eyes on this accusation.
@LTC Casino, up to 3 months for the investigation is a bit long time. OP is desperately waiting to see the end of this process. Can you provide any short estimated time to complete the investigation?
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March 17, 2022, 12:16:31 PM
#34
They are trying to figure out whether or not the jackpot wins are legit or if there was any foul play.

the question I ask myself:

Why are they taking so long to finish this investigation? I don't believe they have hundreds of clients with a lot of problems that they have to investigate and that's why they're taking a long time to investigate the OP case.

how long does the OP have to wait longer to know the results of the investigation and how we can have proof that the investigation will be honest?
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March 17, 2022, 09:22:54 AM
#33
Is very strange indeed, but according to LTC CASINO. they allow people to have many accounts, I don't understand that. most of the conflicts I see here on the forum is precisely because people complain and casino owners say they are using too many accounts, but at LTC CASINO things seem to be different, they allow too many accounts, I also don't understand why people need it have many accounts.
I don't see a problem in having multiple betting accounts unless you are abusing Welcome Bonuses and other benefits that are meant to be for one person each. There is also no advantage of having them. The only reason OP had multiple accounts is because he placed the old ones in some sort of timeout. I assume you can't gamble with them when you do that.

But like I mentioned above. This is not an issue of having multiple accounts and OP should stop mentioning that. The LTC Casino rep only did it to highlight that they noticed similar patterns on all of those accounts. They all played the same slot, but that's not a problem. They are trying to figure out whether or not the jackpot wins are legit or if there was any foul play.   
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March 17, 2022, 07:50:02 AM
#32
this is strange, most of the posts he deleted are from 2020, maybe it was a case in which he didn't see hope anymore
I agree with you partially that Op has deleted his/her post/posts as there was no chance to get any positive effect on that case. And I think OP creates post/posts to blackmail of that site. OP may think if I create scam accusation against them then I may get few money from them as they might be afraid about their reputation.

Op created 4 accounts which is unnecessary. If they can block one account then why they will not others??

Is very strange indeed, but according to LTC CASINO. they allow people to have many accounts, I don't understand that. most of the conflicts I see here on the forum is precisely because people complain and casino owners say they are using too many accounts, but at LTC CASINO things seem to be different, they allow too many accounts, I also don't understand why people need it have many accounts



precisely!

If they do not like that, they should simply forbid that. also my account were put in time out with the max time and only when i was ready to play again i open a new one, i never play with more than one account and they must have check that as my accounts were blocked.

As the way has been described it sound like i was using all the account together which is not the case anyways.

I think the investigation if they had people tricking them is fair , again they are taking very long considering i only play one slot and i did not play for 2 months constantly i took breaks too.
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March 17, 2022, 06:36:35 AM
#31
this is strange, most of the posts he deleted are from 2020, maybe it was a case in which he didn't see hope anymore
I agree with you partially that Op has deleted his/her post/posts as there was no chance to get any positive effect on that case. And I think OP creates post/posts to blackmail of that site. OP may think if I create scam accusation against them then I may get few money from them as they might be afraid about their reputation.

Op created 4 accounts which is unnecessary. If they can block one account then why they will not others??

Is very strange indeed, but according to LTC CASINO. they allow people to have many accounts, I don't understand that. most of the conflicts I see here on the forum is precisely because people complain and casino owners say they are using too many accounts, but at LTC CASINO things seem to be different, they allow too many accounts, I also don't understand why people need it have many accounts

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March 17, 2022, 05:09:17 AM
#30
the only reason i mentioned the time out was to explain that i put each account i open in time out to stop gambling and i never used more than account  together as they are making it sound, that would be suspicious
Unnecessary information. You became suspicious because you played the same slot on all of your accounts and now they are investigating if some unlawful activities happened.   

To be honest if i like a slot i always play the same one and i did win a small jackpot at the beginning when i first signed  in  and i simply thought was a lucky one. The investigation is fine by me as i understand is a lot of money but what upset me is the unnecessary assumptions, the thuth will come out but of course i have doubts about the casino. Again i never won anything so i never found myself in this situation.

The telegram chat was advised by a member of this site suggesting this telegram chat but as soon the guy on the chat acted like a crook and ask me 5% fee i smelt scam and left the chat, screenshoted the convo to be safe.
Do you want to share the name of that person? Would be good to check his reputation and/or reasons he would suggest something like that.

The guy who sent me the Ltc telegram chat is called Koil, and apparently  he suggested me the telegram chat because he was going through a similar problem like me, when they asked me for 5% fee and i found it suspicious i told this Koil and asked him if they ask money too and he said they did and not to give any money and then he told me he stopped responding. Conversation turn up a but sour as he started to say that from my post people where calling me a scammer and i found the whole thing very strange as is why would u suggest me a telegram chat in the first place and then admit that they were trying to scam you too once i told you that the person in this telegram chat sounded like a crook and he called name? The plot thickens as is all very weird.

I  am  a bad looser but not a cheater, i will not accept the slender of being called cheater because i did not cheat. i could think exactly the same about them since i know i didn't cheat and i find the whole situation absurd .
You are being investigated. A verdict hasn't been made. I don't think the casino called you a cheater. They are suspecting that you might have cheated and/or used some automated software.

The way as the whole issue has been handled made me feel like the are treated me like one, and none should be treated as guilty till proven otherwise.


My question is why the casino is not bothered when the players plays for a crazy amount of hours and lots of money but suddenly  find it peculiar if they win?
Because they like taking money, not giving it away. All casinos do. LTC Casino finds it peculiar that you won 3 jackpots because it's not an easy thing to do.

This to be honest i find it too as that never happened before to me , i have read of people winning jackpots but unfortunately never happened to me before.

fortunately they won't be able as i know they can't prove something that i didn't do , but they can't treat people as criminal without proving that they are guilty.
Then you have nothing to worry about. Be patient until the investigation is over.

So far since they replied to my  posts and they also sent the game history to the other forum i feel a bit more reassured as if there is transparency and communication it should be all ok. 



First of all, not taking sides here, as we do not have all the information from both parties.

I want to point out some thoughts regarding the probability of such an event - 3 Jackpots in a time frame of 2 months. (with two jackpots in the range of a day).

As per previous posts, the OP played extensively for two months with multiple accounts + some sessions exceeding 16+ hours on only one slot game. And probably with ultra-fast speed feature, which Wazdan game provider offers. (with default/medium variance version, as I can see from OP screenshot)

hi there, i would like to specify that i never used more than an account together. i have played always with one account at time. i opened 4 accounts but every time i played the previous account was put on max time out , so the reality is that every time i have played there was only one account active.


Power of Gods: Hades slot from the Wazdan studio has a 3000xbet Grand Jackpot. With today's modern ultra-high variance slots exceeding a max of even 100k +  bet, this is not something considered extraordinary. (For example, one of the latest NL games has a 33333xbet max win, with a chance of 1:4million).

Now to the point, how many spins played OP on that particular slot? (including all four accounts - lifetime). With this information (including chances of a 3000xbet win given by Wazdan), I can easily calculate the probability of winning three times x3000 bet in two months.
that would be interesting to know as i played so much and there must  be some kind of mathematical probabilities.

The max bet option was used after i won the second jackpot as i had 300ltc and i could play more, it was never all the time and  the first jackpot wasn't a big amount. Thats the reason i have won the biggest one as i was on max bet.

I have seen two times 5000xbet wins in a few hours timeframe. Additionally, I have seen a player posting winner screenshots playing the Dead or Alive NetEnt game literally almost every single day (In the same range or even higher than 3000x bet size wins.) He played on multiple devices/multiple casinos reaching for a top-payout wildline.

But, all in all, as the number of spins is higher - theoretical RTP is/should be closer to the mean. It's just math. Winnings and losses should not be crucial for the casino. It's a number of bets/spins placed.

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