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Topic: Master-P's scammed funds summary. Post your case here if you were scammed. (Read 18996 times)

legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1029
He got me for 6-7 btc during all this. He repaid some of us but he was still almost 2btc short of paying me off.

And 2.5BTC short of me. That wound is still very fresh with me.
sr. member
Activity: 910
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Check your coin privilege
He got me for 6-7 btc during all this. He repaid some of us but he was still almost 2btc short of paying me off.

So you do remember. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3556
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He got me for 6-7 btc during all this. He repaid some of us but he was still almost 2btc short of paying me off.
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1002
You could wait until he gets out of his house and ask him to repay the funds. Still I don't think he might repay everyone even if you ask him personally.
legendary
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Merit: 1082
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I could go to his house in Aurora and ask nicely if you want. 
bring a video camera!

Better use a smartphone. A video camera will let him look and close the door instantly. There are apps for recording a video with the smartphone while it is closed.

Though I think he will not open anyway now that he knows a stranger will show up on his door in some time.

Well, live of a scammer seems not to be the cool gangsta life. Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 1958
First Exclusion Ever
I could go to his house in Aurora and ask nicely if you want. 
bring a video camera!
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1029
I could go to his house in Aurora and ask nicely if you want. 

Sure, please do it. I just hope this helps the victims to some extent atleast.
legendary
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I could go to his house in Aurora and ask nicely if you want. 
legendary
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legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 1082
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It's likely that it will be hard to get this amount with signature campaigns.

And for master-P's victims it would be interesting to merge forces with the other scammed members. Informing them about the connection and the more are involved the lower will be the costs.
I personally think the best bet would be attempt to make contact with his other victims from past scams, collect more solid evidence that all these thefts were in fact done by a single person and then contact law enforcement. The more money that was stolen, the more attention that law enforcement will generally give to a criminal, especially if there are multiple victims.

The ~$10k that master-P stole would probably be sufficient to get the attention of Law Enforcement, however his various stories (even with all their holes) might be enough to give reasonable doubt, and might be enough to get his victims to not pursue him. I somewhat get the feeling that he "read" his victims and repaid those who he thinks were most likely to pursue him, and stiffed those who he thought would not.

I fully agree with you. And the law enforcement should have not much trouble finding him. He did not run or anything like that... There are other scammer who are, unfortunately, harder to find.

Though when i say that... still nobody visited the address. And it might mean that there is nothing to find. There are enough ways to scam this.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
Act #Neutral,Think y'self as a citizen of Universe
I somewhat get the feeling that he "read" his victims and repaid those who he thinks were most likely to pursue him, and stiffed those who he thought would not.
This is it.He folded the global/international one's and repaid the left alone western one (probably he was from Canada too).
copper member
Activity: 2870
Merit: 2298
Surprise surprise, who would have thought that it ends this way...
I have to say that I am surprised about the majority of the situation. I personally did not think that master-P was planning a long con exit scam. Ironically, it would not be all that difficult to make as much BTC as master-P ended up stealing by trading honestly if he were able to find a niche market of some sort -- he probably would need to commit some kind of initial investment, either monitory or time, though.

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Regarding escrow.ms's offer. I wonder if it would help master-P alot too. Since when the victims get their coins back from escrow.ms then there might be no one anymore who wants to prosecute master-P. Why invest the time and money when you are even?
Probably not. The individual amounts that master-P stole were generally small and I would find it unlikely that many/any of his victims will invest significant time into seeing that he is prosecuted.

escrow.ms previously had master-P on his trust list and escrow.ms likely wants to compensate people for the illusion of trust that this gave master-P (even if escrow.ms had no reason to believe that master-P was a scammer). I don't think that escrow.ms will be able to make any significant dent in the amounts owed to victims. Several months ago, my signature earnings peaked at roughly 1 BTC per month, and that was with ~800 posts per month. It is my understanding that victims are owed somewhere round about 10-15BTC or so.

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What i wonder too is, why is no victim of the other scams coming in here? Did they give up? At least i would have awaited that some of them show up, but it seems nothing happened.

Are they not aware of the connection?
master-P's other victims are likely not aware of the connection, and I would not be surprised if they have given up on trying to collection of the money stolen from them.

It's likely that it will be hard to get this amount with signature campaigns.

And for master-P's victims it would be interesting to merge forces with the other scammed members. Informing them about the connection and the more are involved the lower will be the costs.
I personally think the best bet would be attempt to make contact with his other victims from past scams, collect more solid evidence that all these thefts were in fact done by a single person and then contact law enforcement. The more money that was stolen, the more attention that law enforcement will generally give to a criminal, especially if there are multiple victims.

The ~$10k that master-P stole would probably be sufficient to get the attention of Law Enforcement, however his various stories (even with all their holes) might be enough to give reasonable doubt, and might be enough to get his victims to not pursue him. I somewhat get the feeling that he "read" his victims and repaid those who he thinks were most likely to pursue him, and stiffed those who he thought would not.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1029
ghibly79 didn't wanted to pursue this because the amount that would be required for the legal things will be much more than 3 BTC which he was scammed.

Also, I am not from Canada, so I don't think there's anything that I can do that will effectively cause master-P to refund the funds.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 1082
Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
Surprise surprise, who would have thought that it ends this way...
I have to say that I am surprised about the majority of the situation. I personally did not think that master-P was planning a long con exit scam. Ironically, it would not be all that difficult to make as much BTC as master-P ended up stealing by trading honestly if he were able to find a niche market of some sort -- he probably would need to commit some kind of initial investment, either monitory or time, though.

Quote
Regarding escrow.ms's offer. I wonder if it would help master-P alot too. Since when the victims get their coins back from escrow.ms then there might be no one anymore who wants to prosecute master-P. Why invest the time and money when you are even?
Probably not. The individual amounts that master-P stole were generally small and I would find it unlikely that many/any of his victims will invest significant time into seeing that he is prosecuted.

escrow.ms previously had master-P on his trust list and escrow.ms likely wants to compensate people for the illusion of trust that this gave master-P (even if escrow.ms had no reason to believe that master-P was a scammer). I don't think that escrow.ms will be able to make any significant dent in the amounts owed to victims. Several months ago, my signature earnings peaked at roughly 1 BTC per month, and that was with ~800 posts per month. It is my understanding that victims are owed somewhere round about 10-15BTC or so.

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What i wonder too is, why is no victim of the other scams coming in here? Did they give up? At least i would have awaited that some of them show up, but it seems nothing happened.

Are they not aware of the connection?
master-P's other victims are likely not aware of the connection, and I would not be surprised if they have given up on trying to collection of the money stolen from them.

It's likely that it will be hard to get this amount with signature campaigns.

And for master-P's victims it would be interesting to merge forces with the other scammed members. Informing them about the connection and the more are involved the lower will be the costs.
copper member
Activity: 2870
Merit: 2298
Surprise surprise, who would have thought that it ends this way...
I have to say that I am surprised about the majority of the situation. I personally did not think that master-P was planning a long con exit scam. Ironically, it would not be all that difficult to make as much BTC as master-P ended up stealing by trading honestly if he were able to find a niche market of some sort -- he probably would need to commit some kind of initial investment, either monitory or time, though.

Quote
Regarding escrow.ms's offer. I wonder if it would help master-P alot too. Since when the victims get their coins back from escrow.ms then there might be no one anymore who wants to prosecute master-P. Why invest the time and money when you are even?
Probably not. The individual amounts that master-P stole were generally small and I would find it unlikely that many/any of his victims will invest significant time into seeing that he is prosecuted.

escrow.ms previously had master-P on his trust list and escrow.ms likely wants to compensate people for the illusion of trust that this gave master-P (even if escrow.ms had no reason to believe that master-P was a scammer). I don't think that escrow.ms will be able to make any significant dent in the amounts owed to victims. Several months ago, my signature earnings peaked at roughly 1 BTC per month, and that was with ~800 posts per month. It is my understanding that victims are owed somewhere round about 10-15BTC or so.

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What i wonder too is, why is no victim of the other scams coming in here? Did they give up? At least i would have awaited that some of them show up, but it seems nothing happened.

Are they not aware of the connection?
master-P's other victims are likely not aware of the connection, and I would not be surprised if they have given up on trying to collection of the money stolen from them.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 1082
Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
Since when the victims get their coins back from escrow.ms then there might be no one anymore who wants to prosecute master-P.
There is nothing they can do.I mean it's next to impossible to prove someone's crime in bitcoins as it would be like it is a software experiment etc etc..However who would spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on lawyers to kick a guy's ass who scammed 1-2 of their coins.

Bitcoin is no real money did not even help some years ago when pirateat40 was sued. They are token of value, otherwise you would not be able to sue someone for stealing your picasso. It's material worth is probably some cents but he immaterial worth is unpayable.

What i wonder too is, why is no victim of the other scams coming in here? Did they give up? At least i would have awaited that some of them show up, but it seems nothing happened.
That's interesting but I guess escrow.ms got inspired from this event, particularly ?

Yes. He only wanted to pay for this scam here.

But when theymos revealed the alts of master-P some claimed that there were names under it that scammed for way bigger amounts of coins. I would have awaited that the victims of these scams show up then.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
Act #Neutral,Think y'self as a citizen of Universe
Since when the victims get their coins back from escrow.ms then there might be no one anymore who wants to prosecute master-P.
There is nothing they can do.I mean it's next to impossible to prove someone's crime in bitcoins as it would be like it is a software experiment etc etc..However who would spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on lawyers to kick a guy's ass who scammed 1-2 of their coins.

What i wonder too is, why is no victim of the other scams coming in here? Did they give up? At least i would have awaited that some of them show up, but it seems nothing happened.
That's interesting but I guess escrow.ms got inspired from this event, particularly ?
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 1082
Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
Surprise surprise, who would have thought that it ends this way...

Regarding escrow.ms's offer. I wonder if it would help master-P alot too. Since when the victims get their coins back from escrow.ms then there might be no one anymore who wants to prosecute master-P. Why invest the time and money when you are even?

What i wonder too is, why is no victim of the other scams coming in here? Did they give up? At least i would have awaited that some of them show up, but it seems nothing happened.

Are they not aware of the connection?
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