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Topic: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. - page 52. (Read 227070 times)

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A Great Time to Start Something!
WTF? Right Sector now sending in archers to attack the protesters in Odessa!



At least he will survive the attack.  Smiley
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Just relaying an interesting reader comment about the fat shooter (for the Odessa massacre item in RT):
http://rt.com/news/156664-odessa-fire-radicals-shoot/

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Ingvar Persson 04.05.2014 18:42

-- He really looks like a CIA-man, shooting like a special agent in a movie. ---

- Other persons LOOKING LIKE HIM might be shot in the streets here and there ...

- Is he a mormon? He has modern protection against bullets and is lightly dressed as a civilian, not touched by any mud, as if he had stepped right out of a helicopter from abroad. I think he has spent weekly hours on shooting training and might even be a shooting instructor, an advisor from the U.S.
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WTF? Right Sector now sending in archers to attack the protesters in Odessa!

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A reprint by KP from German Bild:
http://kompravda.eu/daily/26225.7/3109808/

"Kiev government is controlled by a dozen of officers from CIA and FBI. They are to help stop the protests in the East of Ukraine and build a functioning system of public order control."

Dozens of FBI, CIA agents in Kiev 'assisting Ukraine security'
http://rt.com/news/156692-ukraine-cia-fbi-agents/

Seems like Obama is retarded beyond belief.

Obama Calls Coup Government in Kiev “Duly Elected”

http://www.infowars.com/obama-calls-coup-government-in-kiev-duly-elected

Seems Bild is diverting from the NATO script.



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President Barack Obama made an embarrassing blunder earlier today during his press conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel when he described the post-coup government of Kiev as “duly elected”.

I think that Obama is simply misinformed, just like the rest of the "electorate" Cheesy

In USA throwing "ignition bottles" warrants 19 years in prison, while in Ukraine, it warrants cookies:
http://kompravda.eu/daily/26225.7/3109814/
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Seems like Obama is retarded beyond belief.

Obama Calls Coup Government in Kiev “Duly Elected”

http://www.infowars.com/obama-calls-coup-government-in-kiev-duly-elected

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President Barack Obama made an embarrassing blunder earlier today during his press conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel when he described the post-coup government of Kiev as “duly elected”.
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Typical neo-Nazi Right Sector supporters. They want to butcher the Russians and destroy Russia.
But they are legitimate national guard forces now in Ukraine... And pro-russian Ukraine citizens are "terrorists", sigh..
La gente está muy loca.  Angry
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Disturbing news coming in from Southern Ukraine. Apparently there is message circulating asking pro-Kiev radicals to join to combat with weapons in the port city of Odessa, they want make new slaughter!
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I am glad ZDF are still going strong and have not been shut down as dissidents. Smiley



OSCE military spies have been released in Slavjansk:
http://kompravda.eu/online/news/1726054/
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Irate locals burning the Ukrainian flag in Odessa:

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This is getting interesting:

Italy is ready to send peace-keeping forces to Ukraine:
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1165386?utm_medium=rss20
Russia said that neither it nor any other country can persuade people in the South-East to disarms as their lives are in danger and they see no guarantees from Kiev.
This article is an interesting read. Run it through Google.

Canada announced about imposing new sanctions against Russia (I see they are still at it - "a sanction a day keeps crisis away")
http://www.gazeta.ru/business/news/2014/05/04/n_6128881.shtml

New York times states that sanctions against Russia have no effect on Russian economy:
http://finance.rambler.ru/news/economics/145061958.html

Police in Odessa started releasing pro-federalisation protesters that were arrested on Friday:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/04/n_6128645.shtml
http://kompravda.eu/daily/26226/3109821/

And, Yatnsenjuk again promises decentralisation and additional guarantees to the Russian-speaking population:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/04/n_6128637.shtml

Fighting near Slavjansk between pro-federalisation forces and Kiev military resumed:
http://www.interfax.ru/world/374760
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Putin: Washington behind Ukraine events all along, though flying low
http://rt.com/news/155732-putin-usa-behind-ukraine-crisis/

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“I think what is happening now shows us who really was mastering the process from the beginning. But in the beginning, the United States preferred to remain in the shadow,” Putin said, as quoted by RIA Novosti.


Hahahahahaha! So USA set up Ukraine as a trap by destabilizing it, and idiot Putin completely fell for it by attempting to invade it, just as USA planned? What a moron XD

And DEAR GOD, do you read any sources other than Russian propaganda bullshit? Based on all these news reports, you would think that Ukraine is on the brink of civil war, with fascists taking over the government, and everyone else freaking out and trying to escape the imminent fascist rule. While the actual news, coming from the people actually living there, is more along the lines of the people currently in power are helpless to do anything, and everyone in Ukraine is just worried about Russia invading them, and thinking they may have to fight off Russians.

Rassah, sorry for a late reply, I was travelling.

You misinterpret the statement by Putin. He didn't fall for it, he is reacting (or more like not reacting well enough) to the events that unfold and that were ignited by NATO/EU. NATO/EU agenda was Ukrainian economic subversion and military bases, not setting a trap for Putin.

As for sources, I also read Western propaganda bullshit. I also talk to people. In Germany, I met an acquittance, who has relatives both in Ukraine and Russia. German media is also full of anti-Russian propaganda, but not to such a great degree as, say, UK. There is a large Russian minority in Germany, many of whom have relatives in Ukraine, to whom they call. And people get cognitive dissonance between what they read in Mass Media and what they hear from relatives. So German media (with the exception of Bild) try to keep things a bit more real. They do they own investigative reporting, rather then just re-printing NATO-vetted news.

There is a difference between Russian propaganda and Western propaganda. Russian media have a tendency to exaggerate the significance of some events. "Making an elephant out of a fly" so to speak. Western media twist the truth, tell half-truths or present outright lies. Western media would be the ones to call white for "dull, off-beat and discoloured", while black would be depicted and "bright, vibrant and full of life".

There are some in the Western media who tell the truth, like this reporter from The Guardian:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/29/ukraine-fascists-oligarchs-eu-nato-expansion
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-war-kiev-conflict
You can read the words of a Western journalist, whom you seem to trust more, so I don't need to recap the events for you.

As for being scared. Yes, people are scared. Scared of the unknown, scared of what to expect from next day, scared of provocations, of not knowing who to trust. According to my acquaintance in Germany, there is also a growing frustration with Russia, with wondering why there is no help coming from the East.
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Typical neo-Nazi Right Sector supporters. They want to butcher the Russians and destroy Russia. These people need to learn something from the Georgian experience in 2008. Only the mentally retarded will poke a bear.
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Odessa police release 67 anti-govt activists after crowd surround police HQ

http://rt.com/news/156724-odessa-police-release-activists

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Sixty-seven anti-government activists detained by police in the south Ukrainian city of Odessa have been released after a crowd of locals blocked the Interior Ministry building. Those released reportedly included survivors from the deadly May-2 fire. A crowd of Odessa residents, which included many women and elderly people as seen on live video streams from the scene, cheered and hugged the released activists.

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^^^^ lol... definitely one of the most popular articles in the history of the Guardian.  Grin

A record 3,232 comments with 75% of them criticizing the Kiev Nazis. Don't know whether he is alive or not, but Seumas Milne do have the balls to stand up to the media censorship.  Grin
I lol'd from criticizers of "russian agression" in comments.
legendary
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^^^^ lol... definitely one of the most popular articles in the history of the Guardian.  Grin

A record 3,232 comments with 75% of them criticizing the Kiev Nazis. Don't know whether he is alive or not, but Seumas Milne do have the balls to stand up to the media censorship.  Grin
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According to Farsnews, Saudi Arabia has sent a large number of Arab fighters in Syria to Ukraine, to fight pro-Russian protesters. The news can't eb confirmed as of now. Details awaited.
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