Topic: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. - page 58. (Read 227070 times)

If "we" have a built-in excuse to back off and come home, that is actually much better.

http://rt.com/news/155168-us-eu-sanctions-russia/

US failing to push economic sanctions against Russia through EU allies

The new round of sanctions against Russia, which the EU and the US plan to unveil Monday, will not target the Russian economy. Washington said it won’t use economic sanctions without the EU also signing up to them.



http://rt.com/news/155204-ukraine-protesters-tv-station/

Anti-govt protesters seize TV station in eastern Ukraine, call for own channel

Pro-Russian protesters have seized a local state TV station in the city of Donetsk in eastern Ukraine, demanding that Russian TV channels be broadcast there. They also want to launch a “Donetsk People’s Republic” TV channel.

Thanks, niothor. News agencies tend to jumble everything they can dig up into one news item, so it was informative and interesting to get a local outlook on things.

Nemo , I'm commenting only on part of the news about Romania , since you asked.
I'm traveling right now and I don't have enough info on all this but:

1) Romania planned to buy those planes since 2011 , there is a whole political debate why we are buying those damn planes since two years ago the date when the last government dissolved.
There is no connection between what's happening in the east and those planes.
Simply , out old migs can't fly anymore , they are junks.
The contract was signed in 2013 and the planes will be delivered in late 2014 /2015.

2) We don't have such a system. The Romanian navy can only fight against ships from the Spanish armada at most. Those ships are all part of the us navy.
We only have one ship armed with anti air missiles and is not currently in operation.

3)  Analyst? This term is similar to the "developers" that create all those copycat clones. Most of the people you see on tv in romania are both economic-politic-sport-weather analyst. Depends what's on hand.

What can I say without any doubt , that nobody in Romania is insane enough to think that we should start a war to regain our territory from 1918.
Most of the people here despise both the us and nato and the ex soviets so we don't want to get involved in this mess.

Quite agree. But I guess Putin release both him and Pussy Riot, so that the West would have fewer levers to criticize him (not that the West is incapable of finding something else to grumble over, when it comes to Russia).

More on the Hodorkovskij news:
http://top.rbc.ru/politics/27/04/2014/920751.shtml

The defenders of the Donbass administration told him that he can learn everything he needs to learn about what is happening from the Russian journalists, who already report from the administration building.

In other news:
Romania sent an anti-aircraft defence system convoy to the Black Sea:
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1150682?utm_medium=rss20
Romanians also asked US to station an aviation squad until 2017 and plan to buy 12 used F-16 from Portugal.
Some Romanian analysts believe that Bucharest must prepare to sent its troop to (invade) Odessa and Chernovits regions.
While other say that placing American systems in Romania only paints a fat target sign on the country, and oppose further NATO presence in the country.

Obama calls upon EU and US to coordinate their sanctions against Russia
http://www.newsru.com/world/27apr2014/obamaukr.html
Fun: Ukraine uses military against its citizens, Russia gets sanctions; US imposes a puppet government in Ukraine, Russia gets sanctions; NATO pulls more military to Russian borders, Russia gets sanctions.

Citizens of Stahanov town in Lugansk region started building barricades around the administrative building:
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1150599?utm_medium=rss20

lol.... this is getting comic. Mikhail Khodorkovsky tried to visit the Donetsk region and naturally was told to bugger off. Nasty man. Should have stayed quiet. Putin should have never released him from the prison. 

They're not catholics, they're adepts of mutant sect. Praising the Pope but using orthodox rites. Pathetic enough in itself because it looks like they are frozen in the transitional state, for the centuries.

Catholics have a good presence in Lviv, Ternopol and Ivano-Frankivsk. Perhaps this might be used as a justification by the Catholic-Muslim mafia to invade Ukraine, just like they did in Kosovo.

He also has a less kind call-name, based on a slight rewrite of his surname: Yajcenjuh - "egg sniffer", as in "balls sniffer". 

You can't make this up (wiki): "Yatsenyuk is popularly known by the nickname "The Rabbit" because of his resemblance to the eponymous character in the Soviet adaptation of the Winnie-the-Pooh cartoon." 



WTF! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IADMGxZiSA#t=11

Because Yatsenjuk is a Greek-Catholic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arseniy_Yatsenyuk).
[sarcasm] You can immediately see why he represents a majority of Ukrainians after having been lawfully elected. [/sarcasm]

WTF is this? Is Vatican going to send the Swiss guards to Donetsk? And I don't understand why a Catholic figure has to intervene in a predominantly Orthodox country, when the Catholic - Orthodox relations are pretty much strained.

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-promises-help-ukraine-165632352.html;_ylt=AwrBJR5H5ltTd08AE.jQtDMD

Pope promises to help Ukraine

Any western president or prime minister is just a public face of corporate interests. I think it's pretty naive to beleive that he had any power to do anything except than talking on the camera...

Talking about Monica Lewinsky, many people believe that Bill Clinton bombed Serbia, to divert the public attention from his sex scandal. Fortunately Obama is clean as of now. He may not need to bomb anywhere.

A joke on Ukraine:
Yatsenjuk arrives to The White House and Obama meets him in the same room, where Bill Clinton usually met Monica Levinski.
 

Don't know much about the radio-activity of the ash, but the atmospheric pollution caused by it is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people every year. Yet, for the Greenpeace idiots, nuclear energy is more harmful when compared to the thermal energy. Imagine the kind of bribes they are getting from the coal mining lobbies.

Saw on RTR-Planet news that Zaporozhje Nuclear Plant gets some started getting software  upgrade and parts, supplied from US, both of which are not entirely compatible with the processes used by that plant, and which can increase the risk of a disaster.

"Yet" is the key word here. Breeder reactors will make nuclear energy 10xN times cheaper than now through decreasing the costs for mining and enriching.

Replace "UN members" with "oligarchs" and it will be correct.

Of course, that's why they built this NPP without taking a seismic situation into account. "Look at fukushima and buy our oil!" without mentioning that oil and coal contains a significant amounts of uranium and its decay products...

Our dear greenpeace zombies have no idea that ash, which is produced by the coal-powered thermal power plants, de facto falls into low-level radioactive waste category.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste/

Activity, which is discharged into the atmosphere with a coal ash, exceeds all possible ecology standards and incomparable to the results of all weapon tests and nuclear accidents. Anybody, who believe into this "safety concerns", is lying to himself.

Breeder reactors are not used in a large way by any country yet. But still, the Uranium based nuclear power plants generate electricity at rates ranging from $0.02 to $ 0.03 / Kwh, compared to $0.10 / KWh for the coal-powered thermal power plants. But still, a majority of the UN members are refusing to use them because of safety concerns. And these concerns have intensified after the Fukushima disaster.

Uranium-plutonium and uranium-thorium cycles are virtually inexhaustible sources of energy. Relevant industry is in development yet, but it's only a matter of time... Breeder reactors have long been developed, it is only a matter of time when oil oligarchs will be crushed by competition with incredible volumes of cheap energy.

What about Chernobyl, it's not so scary as it may seem.

1) There are populated areas with a higher natural background radiation than in the chernobyl's exclusion zone.
2) Belarusians, for example, learned how to grow the ecologically clean rye and wheat on the soil, which was contaminated by cesium-137.
3) They also have found the ways to produce milk which has 4-5 times less Strontium-90 supplied radioactivity in comparison with a milk produced by other european countries.

That's funny because Ukraine and Belarus have had a special status in the USSR. They were called "Soviet Ukraine" and "Soviet Belarus" and even had own representatives in the UN...  

Of course that's not necessary to have a direct access to nuclear technology, they can buy energy in Russia or EU. But I suppose that current "ruling elites" won't pay for anything just like they are doing with gas supplies right now. Buying a yacht is always more pleasant than paying the bills.