Topic: Mentality of Gamblers Before and After Winning - page 10. (Read 1639 times)
It's not just the mentality about gambling but also the spitting behind money, he didn't go through with his plans because he got greedy, this is human nature and it takes discipline to overcome it. There's such a thing called beginners luck in gambling and most newbies experience this. It makes them addicted to gambling and within a few months of locking into the game they will lose more than what they won on their first trial. If you set your mind on recovering from your addiction don't let someone else's win lure you back into. Remember that gambling is a losing game and it doesn't matter if you win, as long as you are constantly involved in it you must lose.
This happens in many cases like i consoled my friend when i lost a big bet and my friend also lost. It's really sympathetic because losing money changes everyone mindset. We should understand that the fun money won in gambling does not last forever because he will spend it all one day and then come back to you. The day your friend wins big money he will be very happy and he will run to different places to enjoy his happiness. Gamblers are at the peak of excitement, maybe he has won a few bets, or he has lost again.
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I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?
I think it's only natural for someone new to gambling to feel excited about a big win.I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?
If I were in your position OP I would approach the conversation with empathy and focus on his well-being. I would tell him that I noticed how excited he is about his big win and that I'm genuinely happy for him. I would also check in on how he is doing because I’ve been in that situation before and understand how tempting it can be to chase that feeling. I’d let him know that I’m here if he ever want to talk about it. I would offer my support without bringing up money or making him feel defensive. I want him to know my door is always open for a deeper conversation where I can share my own journey and provide guidance if he seems open to it.
The thrill of success often leaves us wanting more and in this case it seemed like my friend was caught in that cycle, as I was feeling before too and he was unable to honor his word probably because he wanted to keep increasing his gains and bet more. It's a reminder that the brain is never truly satisfied when gambling, there's always the desire for more. I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?
This is why many gamblers that win end up giving the money back, the quest to get more after success. In some instances, when the winning comes so easily, gamblers are tempted to think that it will continue that way, consequently, some increase the amount they use to bet, throw caution to the wind and only find out the hard way after they have given the winnings back and are left to source for fresh capital to make deposit. It is paramount that a gambler work out his actions before placing the bet and after the bet is settled. So if it is winning then, he should know how to manage the winning and when a loss too, there should be a way to handle that. 
What I took away from this experience is how the mentality of gamblers can change after a win. The thrill of success often leaves us wanting more and in this case it seemed like my friend was caught in that cycle, as I was feeling before too and he was unable to honor his word probably because he wanted to keep increasing his gains and bet more.
You won't blame him because they say nothing wins like winning. I've yet to see a gambler who would quit after winning. It never happens that way. It's like a new entrant into this crypto space who makes a hell of ROI and then becomes conceited that he has become an expert and wouldn't listen any more to anyone. There's a proud feeling winning gives, whether we arrogantly display it or we silently do it but it's there. 
There are some who won’t honor their promises, but the majority of gamblers do. As gamblers, we’re people willing to take risks, and most of us value our word. So, IMO, it’s only right to give someone what they’re owed if you’ve made a promise as being honest is important.
Of course, greed can sometimes get in the way, especially when it comes to money. If 10% is a significant amount, some might feel reluctant to give it to someone who didn’t even risk a single centavo. But that’s just how it is, every gambler has a different mindset and attitude. You just have to accept it, because at the end of the day, it’s not really a gambler’s obligation to give you that 10%.
However, I think 10% is also quite large enough to give it freely to a friend or a companion. That’s probably the reason why OP’s friend never made his promise. But still the point is, we should honor our words, our promises, as much as possible. Most especially for someone who has experienced recent losses and had never made significant gains. I know a lot would agree to this. It’s just that, not all gamblers can keep their promises, regardless of their reason, greed is still the most common cause. Of course, greed can sometimes get in the way, especially when it comes to money. If 10% is a significant amount, some might feel reluctant to give it to someone who didn’t even risk a single centavo. But that’s just how it is, every gambler has a different mindset and attitude. You just have to accept it, because at the end of the day, it’s not really a gambler’s obligation to give you that 10%.
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Even if he had wanted to win more, spearing that 10% that he promised you, is not what would have made his bet not to be successful again but he just failed his promise because it's his personality. This actually reminds me of the topic that said, "gambling could also determine peoples personality." It's possible that someone else could still make that kind of promise and fulfill it but in his case, I believe he made such a promise out of over excitement. There's a saying that people should not make promise when they are too excited.
It's not just gambling alone; what you said is true. When someone is excited, they can make huge promises to anyone. In this life, we should just learn not to put interest in the promises of someone if not we will get disappointed. What you can do is not say a word to him about the money, just let everything be and be his friend as usual.
If your friend had lost in his bet. You will notice he would stick to you for you to show compassion for him. Funny enough money won in gambling does not last forever, he will spend it all someday and then come back to you.
This is true, when many people are excited they tend to make promises that they ordinarily won't keep and when it's time to fulfill what they have promised, they will begin to have second thoughts. When some gamblers places bets, especially the ones that can give them huge wins, they will want to get emotional support from friends and in the process they will promise what they ordinarily can't do, so that is why I don't take promises made by gamblers on bets that they have not won because they will likely get greedy after the win and not fulfill it. But if they lose their bet they will expect you to comfort them, it goes to show that money shows the true character of people. You won't know the character of a person when he is broke, it is when he has a lot of money that the inner character will manifest. If your friend had lost in his bet. You will notice he would stick to you for you to show compassion for him. Funny enough money won in gambling does not last forever, he will spend it all someday and then come back to you.
Just never mind your friend. He will also learn his lesson in the future when someone will promise to give him some “balato” but will never honor his word after. Eventually he will feel what you felt way back then.
However, you cannot generalized gamblers because each of us has different mentality when it comes to making promises. I myself really hate those persons who cannot honor their promises, but never will I confront them about that. I just let them learn their own lesson. Also, just continue helping your co-gamblers but never expect in return. If they will spare portion of their winnings, then that’s good, if not, no worries, you’re not expecting either.
However, you cannot generalized gamblers because each of us has different mentality when it comes to making promises. I myself really hate those persons who cannot honor their promises, but never will I confront them about that. I just let them learn their own lesson. Also, just continue helping your co-gamblers but never expect in return. If they will spare portion of their winnings, then that’s good, if not, no worries, you’re not expecting either.
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Gamblers even pray to God even though are not religious just to win their bet but later on forgot about the faith on God after the bet concluded regardless of the result. In your case, he use you as medium to rely his faith for winning his bet.
I knew the feeling of being promised but the person ghosted you after they get what they wanted. Good to know that you are just okay that the other party broken their promise since other person will rage when promised is not granted after the win.
Are you close to each other personally? This is awkward if you meet this person on daily basis because I’m sure he will ignore you until he spend all his profit.
The main problem with the mentality of gamblers after winning, is that they start believing to be invencible and untouchable. They feel nothing can stop them anymore, so they tend to continue gambling pursuing even higher goals until they finally become losers... Before winning, everything is pretty uncertain and unstable. There is a lot of excitement, but no assurances and certainties. They don't know what is going to happen next, even though they are hopeful of winnings. For that reason, they are still in touch with reality.
Once they win, they lose touch with reality and get delusional, having megalomaniac thoughts. That is when there must be someone close by to warn them it's time to stop, it's time to enjoy the prize, just like the 'auriga' slaves did in Ancient Rome, whispering on the ears of victorius generals "remember you are mortal" or "look behind you! Remember you [are only] a man!".
Once they win, they lose touch with reality and get delusional, having megalomaniac thoughts. That is when there must be someone close by to warn them it's time to stop, it's time to enjoy the prize, just like the 'auriga' slaves did in Ancient Rome, whispering on the ears of victorius generals "remember you are mortal" or "look behind you! Remember you [are only] a man!".
Guy, such is life. Someone has created thread like this one here in this year though the stories are different but the characters of the winners are the same. He won and didn't give anything to his friends though he didn't promise them but yours promised to give you 10% of the 1400 odds winning but ironically, he is not interested to give you again. And since you said you were not interested on the promise, so you have to let it go. Your friend is not truthful by not fulfilling his promise. And now probably he is not following your path because he knew that he has failed you.
I will say just focus on your course of recovering from your losses and one day he come back to you and you can remind him that of his character.
I will say just focus on your course of recovering from your losses and one day he come back to you and you can remind him that of his character.
I wouldn't say it's the thrill that caused.
Yeah it made him make the promise, we do alot of things when we happy
But keeping to promises is another thing entirely.
There are individuals who stick to their words and principles
Unfortunately he isn't one of said individuals at least now you have learnt something that promises doesn't mean much to him.
Give him sometime and maybe talk about football to toggle his memory and if he doesn't come through
You can advice him on the impact of broken promises to trust.
Yeah it made him make the promise, we do alot of things when we happy
But keeping to promises is another thing entirely.
There are individuals who stick to their words and principles
Unfortunately he isn't one of said individuals at least now you have learnt something that promises doesn't mean much to him.
Give him sometime and maybe talk about football to toggle his memory and if he doesn't come through
You can advice him on the impact of broken promises to trust.
The match ended with a win and we were both happy. Personally, I wasn't concerned about receiving any money from him as I was more focused on my recovery to not set a bet or deposit ever again. However, the next day my friend avoided me and didn't follow through on his promise even though I wouldn’t have minded if he didn’t.
Some things were easier said than done, that is why we should not be quick to making valein promises, because we don't know if the condition involved could be adaptive by us again at the cause of time, human minds also change with time, we should not let over excitement took over our emotions till we begin to make vain promises, though as you have said, that your mind isn't there, if he gives you're fine and if he doesn't, you're still looking better, because you don't depend on him, we should learn from this, not until we are ready to give, we shouldn't promise other people anything.
It’s our mentality that needs to change. I say this because if we rely on tips from others’ wins, we’ll never learn to develop our own path. We should be man enough not to depend on donations or promises from others. Instead, we should focus on building our own gambling strategies so that, in the end, we can be profitable on our own.
In my case, if someone promises me something if they win, I don’t put much hope into it. That way, I won’t get hurt if they don’t deliver. If they give something, great, if not, that’s fine too. I’m the kind of gambler who doesn’t rely on others much.
In my case, if someone promises me something if they win, I don’t put much hope into it. That way, I won’t get hurt if they don’t deliver. If they give something, great, if not, that’s fine too. I’m the kind of gambler who doesn’t rely on others much.
I have shared with the community before how I stopped gambling and am currently healing from that addiction. However, recently I had an interesting experience with a friend who was just getting started with sports betting (football). He placed small bets on several football matches, and to his excitement he won 10 out of 11 in a combined bet. He was excited and waiting the final match, knowing it would bring him a huge gain. I supported him telling him he would win and he even promised to give me 10% of his earnings if he won that combined bet with around @1400 odds in total.
The match ended with a win and we were both happy. Personally, I wasn't concerned about receiving any money from him as I was more focused on my recovery to not set a bet or deposit ever again. However, the next day my friend avoided me and didn't follow through on his promise even though I wouldn’t have minded if he didn’t.
What I took away from this experience is how the mentality of gamblers can change after a win. The thrill of success often leaves us wanting more and in this case it seemed like my friend was caught in that cycle, as I was feeling before too and he was unable to honor his word probably because he wanted to keep increasing his gains and bet more. It's a reminder that the brain is never truly satisfied when gambling, there's always the desire for more. I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?
The match ended with a win and we were both happy. Personally, I wasn't concerned about receiving any money from him as I was more focused on my recovery to not set a bet or deposit ever again. However, the next day my friend avoided me and didn't follow through on his promise even though I wouldn’t have minded if he didn’t.
What I took away from this experience is how the mentality of gamblers can change after a win. The thrill of success often leaves us wanting more and in this case it seemed like my friend was caught in that cycle, as I was feeling before too and he was unable to honor his word probably because he wanted to keep increasing his gains and bet more. It's a reminder that the brain is never truly satisfied when gambling, there's always the desire for more. I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?
There are really people like that, where they will make a promise that in the end they will not keep, maybe in their mind it seems like they were just shocked by what they said or maybe they only said it because they thought that they were not sure they would win, it could be like that.
But if you reminded them of what they said to you, I think they could keep what they said because of course it would be embarrassing and you could think that you might think that they didn't have a single word so they would still keep their promise to you, though it might not be genuine in their heart, it could also be that if you reminded them, they could still give you but not 10% and they could give you an alibi that they didn't give you 10%, it seems like they were just trying to trick you somehow.
That is normal if gamblers change after they win so we should not have any bad feeling with them. Even if he promise to gives some of his winning to us but he doesn't keep his promise, that will not be a problem for us. We will know how his act when he win the money to us or other people.
We don't have to talk to him or give advices because that can makes him feels bad to us. Maybe that can makes him will not want to meet us anymore. So let him like that and we don't have to talk much to him.
If he is really good friend, he will feels something change with us and will come to us. At that time, we can suggest him with a joke that he should keep his promise if he say about promise.
We don't have to talk to him or give advices because that can makes him feels bad to us. Maybe that can makes him will not want to meet us anymore. So let him like that and we don't have to talk much to him.
If he is really good friend, he will feels something change with us and will come to us. At that time, we can suggest him with a joke that he should keep his promise if he say about promise.
Honestly, I think that players should not be trusted in what they tell about their winnings, because they often want to seem more successful players to other players, as if in fact they were losing more in gambling than they won, but they told their friends that they were successful in gambling and could earn money from it. Maybe I perceive it this way because I myself cannot achieve anything outstanding in gambling and I lose more than I win, so it seems to me that for most players this is how it happens.
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Idk, before judging, it'd probably be best to confirm why he didn't honor his word? Heck, it was also just a verbal promise and you didn't contribute anything at all really, so I reckon assuming you have a "claim" on the winnings is just overextending yourself. I also don't see any reason why you should breach the subject if he chooses to ignore it. There could be multiple reasons but I reckon you can just ask subtly if he has money problems. If yes, then that's probably where the money went and no reason to continue the conversation. If no, then he doesn't want to share and again, the conversation ends.
If you want to broach about gambling responsibilities and whatnot, usually much more effective when they're in the middle or at the end. Yapping about it at the start often ends up just like that, yapping, in their ears.
What I took away from this experience is how the mentality of gamblers can change after a win. The thrill of success often leaves us wanting more and in this case it seemed like my friend was caught in that cycle, as I was feeling before too and he was unable to honor his word probably because he wanted to keep increasing his gains and bet more. It's a reminder that the brain is never truly satisfied when gambling, there's always the desire for more. I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?
Most gamblers start small, but over time, their money grows, and so do their spending habits. Whether we admit it or not, we all go through this before we realize our mistakes. And whatever you see, OP, in your friend, chances are, you've been there too.
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