Mentality of Gamblers Before and After Winning - page 7.

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Quote from: Darker45 on December 08, 2024, 09:57:56 PM

I don't think it's worth the effort to approach him and give him an advice. Just take his words lightly next time. Whatever he promises you, take it with a pinch of salt. If that's his character, people won't take him seriously.

Yes, that is right. We have many things to do and not just think about his promise. If he still say about promise, we can skip that and not thinks seriously so he can realizes that we don't believe him anymore. Some people have that character so we don't have to surprise if one of our friends like that. We have many friends which can keep their promise so if we lost one friend, that will not be a problem.

After all, in the friendship, we need to trust each other and if we promise something to our friends, we must keep promises to them and vice versa. We will take care of that because we don't want to lose our friends.

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That's just how greed can change a person. This is a classic problem that gamblers often face when they gamble with their friends, usually there is an agreement made and most of the time it doesn't end well. And because of that we should be straight to the point and not be too uncomfortable with the situation - and if in the end the person breaks his promise and ignores what we say, then we already know the quality of the person and already know how to act next, whether it is to keep our distance or stay away from him. But if you think that it's not a big deal, yeah you can just let it be, maybe you feel that your relationship with him is more valuable.

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Quote from: Z390 on December 09, 2024, 01:28:02 AM

Maybe it is just me? I have kept so may promises I made to people when I am happy, it is like a debt when I promise someone and I don't fulfill the promise, anyways we can't all be the same.

Not all gamblers are like this OP, some do keep their promises, it is not about the game it is just character of this fella, know him already I bet, just respect him for who is his, 'someone who don't like to keep promises' and move on, this must not stop you from talking to him still, this is just who he is.

Saying you will do something for someone and ended up doing it makes you a better person, even if the person you helped take it for granted you are helping yourself, you will be able to fulfil your dreams once you set your mind on it.

Alright, let us say not everyone, but it often happens in real life that people tend to fail at keeping their promises. It is understandable that many promises are made to be broken. We can be grateful that we stay true to others, but unfortunately, we can't force others to be like us because everyone has their own thoughts and decisions.

That's why it's often better not to hope and wait, as it just leads to hurting ourselves. Yes, it's more beneficial to move on and let them realize their mistakes rather than confronting them. Eventually, the time will come when they come back and acknowledge their mistakes.

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Maybe it is just me? I have kept so may promises I made to people when I am happy, it is like a debt when I promise someone and I don't fulfill the promise, anyways we can't all be the same.

Not all gamblers are like this OP, some do keep their promises, it is not about the game it is just character of this fella, know him already I bet, just respect him for who is his, 'someone who don't like to keep promises' and move on, this must not stop you from talking to him still, this is just who he is.

Saying you will do something for someone and ended up doing it makes you a better person, even if the person you helped take it for granted you are helping yourself, you will be able to fulfil your dreams once you set your mind on it.

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I don't think if this mentality is of the gamblers alone but of unserious people much occupied people.

Let me expand some bit, unserious people as regarded as that of your friend that failed his promise with you are such persons who have needs to be solved by finance and are craving for the money to come so that they could actualize it dependently on what they had earlier set in place to execute it for, but when the money comes, they rather lavishes it or spending on places they never had an earlier plans for initially.

The occupied ones are people who had drafted the essential places to spend the money when it comes but due to projects and responsibilities, they could not be able to meet up their initial tasks so they rather spend it on some other essential needs.

As for your friend, from from when he said he was going to give you 10% if he wins when you did not contribute to his winning neither did you participate in any assistance was enough to be in doubt with him because as for me, 10% is too much to give you just like that because I know what it takes to win in the gambling. Though I can be affordable to give you such amount of money in other way of my earning.

However. I don't like people living by promising without fulfilment but what I can only tell you is to let go off expecting he was going to give you some of the money won as regarded.

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That's basically about character. Not all people are like that. Not all gamblers are like him. Staying true to your word isn't about "the thrill of success" or your desire to keep your gains increasing. It's simply about yourself and the kind of person you are.

I don't think it's worth the effort to approach him and give him an advice. Just take his words lightly next time. Whatever he promises you, take it with a pinch of salt. If that's his character, people won't take him seriously.

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We should not take some promises seriously, because they were given in a special emotional state. And demanding the fulfillment of such hasty emotional promises, in my opinion, is not very nice. It is best to forget this promise and never remind your friend about it if the author wants to maintain the friendship. I think that the author of the start-post has not yet completely given up on the idea of earning money on bets and has not completely recovered from the addiction. Otherwise, he would not care who wins and how much. The most important thing is not to feel envy and not to lay claim to a part of someone else's success.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on December 08, 2024, 07:14:58 AM

...The match ended with a win and we were both happy. Personally, I wasn't concerned about receiving any money from him as I was more focused on my recovery to not set a bet or deposit ever again. However, the next day my friend avoided me and didn't follow through on his promise even though I wouldn’t have minded if he didn’t...

I think anyone would be willing to give even half of their winnings if only their bet would be successful. That's exactly what your friend did, feeling the pre-match excitement. But after his bet turned out to be a winner, he thought that you did nothing to get 10% of the amount of his winnings, since he did the financial expenses and forecast the result of the match on his own. Do you really think that you have the right to demand 10% of your friend's winnings?

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Well I think most of us (gamblers) have experienced or done that action when we were still beginners, I think it's quite reasonable considering beginners who are really very enthusiastic in responding to the winning situation they managed to get which ultimately makes them really do not hesitate to use the money from the winnings to bet again with a much larger bet amount, and that action is done based on a feeling of great certainty and high self-confidence. But it is clear that regardless of whether you are a beginner or not, such actions should not be done, because anything excessive is always prohibited, because in the end it will definitely happen like what your friend OP experienced, where instead of getting a much bigger win, he actually lost all the previous winnings, and this is the reason why we are always advised to improve our approach to gambling, at least have the ability to stop at the right time.

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Quote from: sunsilk on December 08, 2024, 06:13:37 PM

That happens mostly even not in gambling matters. We're all emotional and we promise a lot when we're too happy and that's there's a saying about this.

"Don't promise when you're too happy"

And with your friend, I think that he was too overwhelmed with the result and he has really no obligation to give you that. He just said those words out of happiness but at least he has to tell you that he can't make his promise into reality after realizing that 10% is quite big for him to giveaway.

True indeed. Even not in gambling, there are still a lot of people who often do promises out of their overwhelming feeling, but after a day or two, those promises were not even remembered then.

But in gambling, I know most the gamblers remember their word, and really make efforts to honor their promise. Be it big or small win, as long as there’s profits, those gamblers will really make it up to those they have made promises.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on December 08, 2024, 07:14:58 AM

What I took away from this experience is how the mentality of gamblers can change after a win. The thrill of success often leaves us wanting more and in this case it seemed like my friend was caught in that cycle, as I was feeling before too and he was unable to honor his word probably because he wanted to keep increasing his gains and bet more. It's a reminder that the brain is never truly satisfied when gambling, there's always the desire for more. I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?

There's no other way. You have to tell him directly, like to honor his promise about giving you 10% of his winning, but if its ok for you and he did not honor it, then you also have to directly tell him, because if you do not and he loses all the money he won, he will end up blaming you for not reminding him about your shares that he promised.
I experienced that myself and was blamed for not reminding the guy of what was promised to me. Gamblers have twisted minds when winning and losing it afterwards. Cheesy

One thing you should know about humans and promises is that, it is easy to make promises for them when the dice have not roll in their favor, but when the Dice finally roll in their favor, they will act as if the have forgotten all that have been promised by them, playing along with them will only lead you into losing that your own percentage, so the best thing to do is that, you have to ask him for the 10% you both agreed on as your own expected percentage when and if he eventually wins, and now that he has won, you have to press home your demands for your 10percent, gambler are easily carried away with the excitement of winning in some cases and this could effect their emotions greatly so one need to constantly keep them in check to know and remind them what they need to do as long as promises and agreement is concerned.

And the earlier you do this the better for you because if you waste too much time on this demands, you know how gambler's behave very soon he may tell you that he have gambled away all the winnings and have nothing left to settle you of your 10 %, so delay is dangerous for you at this point in time and you need to act fast, unless you want to lose your entitlement at the end of the day.

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That happens mostly even not in gambling matters. We're all emotional and we promise a lot when we're too happy and that's there's a saying about this.

"Don't promise when you're too happy"

And with your friend, I think that he was too overwhelmed with the result and he has really no obligation to give you that. He just said those words out of happiness but at least he has to tell you that he can't make his promise into reality after realizing that 10% is quite big for him to giveaway.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on December 08, 2024, 07:14:58 AM

What I took away from this experience is how the mentality of gamblers can change after a win.

Even though you could be right, I would say it depends on a person's nature and how they generally are from their heart. When your heart is in the right place, you won't do things like these because your mind will keep reminding you of your conditional words and promises that you have made with people before, either winning a lottery, a big win, or anything else that was about to occur.

The guy you are talking about is both a gambler and a person with a bad heart. Sorry to say this about your friend, but it's the truth.

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I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?

I would suggest you leave him alone after what has happened. You shouldn't reach out first or try to contact or stay in touch. If he keeps a distance from you while he is doing well and comes back to you if he is struggling financially, that is when you can remind him of this time and tell him that what he did wasn't right and that a person shouldn't be so proud of themselves because everything is temporary.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on December 08, 2024, 07:14:58 AM

The match ended with a win and we were both happy. Personally, I wasn't concerned about receiving any money from him as I was more focused on my recovery to not set a bet or deposit ever again. However, the next day my friend avoided me and didn't follow through on his promise even though I wouldn’t have minded if he didn’t.

...and this is exactly how you'd start feeling betrayed for trying to act like the "Mr good guy" -- IRL, nothing goes into the good guy's pockets. He may have certainly developed some thoughts about the fact that you didn't wager of these odds, but advised him to do so.

That way, it's obvious that you saw that as some rocket science shit, but it later paid off in a wholesome - that alone would be a motivation to you and, if this is true, there's every tendency that you may fall back to give it a one-last-trial observation, and that's it!
I dunno the kind of agreements you had with him, but it's not strange that he's behaving that way after the funds came in.

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What I took away from this experience is how the mentality of gamblers can change after a win.

"Never trust the words out of the mouth of a man in a muddy pit".. he can say anything just to saved, thereafter, switching up like a chameleon and becoming your worst rivalry, just to avoid paying you back in good coins.

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In my case, it was worse than yours. I told my relative that I bet on sports and the guy asked me to lend him money to bet. Since it was a small amount and the bet was for fun, I didn't see any problem in lending him money. He made a multi-bet with many teams, the odds were very high. So he said that if he won, he would give me my money back, although I didn't want him to give it back to me. The fact is that he got the bet right and won a lot of money, but the guy disappeared all day. He spent all the money and only told me he won after it was all over.

To make matters worse, he asked me to lend him the same amount of money to make another bet. I was irritated by that attitude, but I lent him the money again and to my great surprise, he won again and disappeared again and only told me he won after spending it all. Then he came to ask me for money again, I gave it to him again and this time the guy lost the bet, he was nervous every day and it seemed like he blamed me for his defeat, the guy became unbearable and I left his house as soon as I finished what I had to do.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on December 08, 2024, 07:14:58 AM

The match ended with a win and we were both happy. Personally, I wasn't concerned about receiving any money from him as I was more focused on my recovery to not set a bet or deposit ever again. However, the next day my friend avoided me and didn't follow through on his promise even though I wouldn’t have minded if he didn’t.

What I took away from this experience is how the mentality of gamblers can change after a win. The thrill of success often leaves us wanting more and in this case it seemed like my friend was caught in that cycle, as I was feeling before too and he was unable to honor his word probably because he wanted to keep increasing his gains and bet more. It's a reminder that the brain is never truly satisfied when gambling, there's always the desire for more. I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?

Maybe you can throw a few jokes and see his reaction. But if he still didn't want to give you some money as he promised, then so be it. If he is really your friend then I do not think that he will suddenly can't remember it or just have a selective memory.

Nevertheless, I have encountered several individuals with that kind of attitude and I'm not bothered. Even if heard him giving others some money from gambling. Still fine with me. At the end of the day, we are still friends so I do not take it personally. What if I win next? Do I need to give him some?

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Quote from: GxSTxV on December 08, 2024, 07:14:58 AM

I have shared with the community before how I stopped gambling and am currently healing from that addiction. However, recently I had an interesting experience with a friend who was just getting started with sports betting (football). He placed small bets on several football matches, and to his excitement he won 10 out of 11 in a combined bet. He was excited and waiting the final match, knowing it would bring him a huge gain. I supported him telling him he would win and he even promised to give me 10% of his earnings if he won that combined bet with around @1400 odds in total.

The match ended with a win and we were both happy. Personally, I wasn't concerned about receiving any money from him as I was more focused on my recovery to not set a bet or deposit ever again. However, the next day my friend avoided me and didn't follow through on his promise even though I wouldn’t have minded if he didn’t.

What I took away from this experience is how the mentality of gamblers can change after a win. The thrill of success often leaves us wanting more and in this case it seemed like my friend was caught in that cycle, as I was feeling before too and he was unable to honor his word probably because he wanted to keep increasing his gains and bet more. It's a reminder that the brain is never truly satisfied when gambling, there's always the desire for more. I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?

Why would that embarrass him? It sounds like you are embarrassed to ask, if you need to hint about it indirectly rather then confronting him directly.
But just be aware that you didn't risk anything, and technically he doesn't owe you anything. He can decide if he wants to keep his word or he can even say that he wasn't serious about it.

And one more thing, as you are healing from that addiction you might be better off forgetting the whole thing. It's not the losses you get hooked on, it's the winnings. And what you might derive from that is that you can make winning choices so you might slip on trying that yourself one day.

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You can't expect someone who win to share his/her luck to other people, though the positivity they had saying they'll share was only the excitement based on their emotional fire. Gamblers decision making will eventually change by the the they'll able to achieve winning jackpot, most of them will change and couldn't fulfill their thoughts. Worst case scenario, they'll ending up to lose all those winnings and back to zero without giving out shares to people who hope positively from a winner.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on December 08, 2024, 07:14:58 AM

. I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?

If he himself promised, then he is obliged to pay you the amount that was agreed upon in advance.Friend or not a friend, it does not matter at all, I would demand my percentage if the person promised. If he does not pay, then your friendship was worth exactly the amount that he did not give, and perhaps this is even for the better, since in a more serious situation he would have behaved even worse. This is life and it is full of surprises.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on December 08, 2024, 07:14:58 AM

What I took away from this experience is how the mentality of gamblers can change after a win. The thrill of success often leaves us wanting more and in this case it seemed like my friend was caught in that cycle, as I was feeling before too and he was unable to honor his word probably because he wanted to keep increasing his gains and bet more. It's a reminder that the brain is never truly satisfied when gambling, there's always the desire for more. I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?

What type of advice do you want to give your friend? Is he for him to stop gambling or he should try to always fulfill his promise when he makes one?

I know this saying that goes that, one should never believe in the words of a gambler, they never fulfill their promises and makes a lot of them. Personally, I think the way a gambler feels anytime he places a bet is what makes them make a lot of promises. They always have this conviction that they’re going to win their bet and will give out plenty of money to people as they promised. Not knowing that after a win, they’ll tend to risk the money back to win more and that’s what begins to make them lose even the little they may have earned earlier. A gambler is never satisfied and those that gets to earn little and take away their winnings without playing again, finds it hard to give money out. So don’t feel bad about your friend, that’s how most gamblers behave and it may also happen to anyone if they’re in the same shoes as them.

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