Topic: Mentality of Gamblers Before and After Winning - page 4. (Read 1875 times)

It happens even when the person is not excited that promises get tougher to fulfill as the day creeps by. His friend may have all he said in mind, and also tells himself that the money would get to Op someday, maybe when next he wins. Sometimes, it's better to be happy for the assurance, regardless of the delay in making it happen.

It's not wise to make promises when you are over excited about something or perhaps when you are even not in your normal state of mind because if you do, you might promise something that you will not find very easy to fulfill at the end when you are finally in that comfortable state of mind.  I don't think that guy can fulfill that promise because if he would done so, then he would at give even if it's not up to what he promised.

What your friend did was wrong but you shouldn't have linked this to gambling because it is not particular to gambling but a personal behaviour of people when it comes to money. The money could come through any means but the main important fact is that people are stingy. They acted on impulse at that time when they had not won, but immediately after winning, their true nature took hold of them to act in the opposite. This is common to humans and I say that the proportion of those who would honour such words is little.

It's sad some persons don't wait to have a second experience before they start treating almost everyone that comes their way with respect tot their experience even if it was just with a person or two meanwhile some persons would have had too many several experiences and will still decide to be of a fair behavior to everyone or maybe threat people accordingly as they probably deserve or as the situation demands based of their encounter at that moment.

The Op made the right decision by just standing far away and observing him, and it's even more interesting that the person the player who won the game is avoiding doesn't even care about that, which he had promised him.
 
If he could have just come clean and said, Sorry buddy, expenses and some other things took away that which was just won, their friendship will just be the way it is," he could have also even gotten free advice on how to effectively manage his funds in case of next time.

I want us to be this sure to know that the gamblers don't mostly make some adequate preparation/plan over the bet they are playing except they have won, this is common because they also don't know what may turns out form the bet taken, knowing that one often losses than he won in gambling, many of them could have assume there is no need for making any preparation on ground when there is no certainty that they are going to win, except the few, will do so before and or after they have won.

Op, The promise your friend gave you before winning i.e. 10% profit is most likely kidding you and making false promises. Because of big profit ie made false promises to you and later cut off contact with you. Such constant incidents like yours happen very often and not only in gambling but in all profitable events such false promises and in reality after receiving the profit or benefit do not act as promised.

Then why do we have promises, as something sacred? Or is it not because addicted people use it to gain? Those people (addicted) say them and create anticipation and hope for all the others, only for their personal gain. Because they are sure that "promising" can persuade others. That doesn't mean that promises are words of the air. 


For sure he will. The question though is do you seriously want to be the financial (and not only) crutch of an addicted person who only remembers you when he loses and wants to satisfy his addictive need? Sorry, but I don't want and don't consider such people my friends.

People are really indeed different on which there are ones who do really generalize that each person in the world does really want money and not really giving out some importance specially on friendships or simply with their relationship into other people. Just like into this kind of situation on which this is really that pertaining about some sudden promises about getting up some % of the winning just because of some emotional burst on the moment that they do play gambling on which this is really just that indeed normal. There are those people who are true into their words but majority will really be ending up on being liars just because they have just that said such thing because of such extreme joy. Just like on what everyone is really that telling that not all people who do make out some promises is something that you will really be that really meant it. It will really be changing up instantly because at the time that they've realize that the amount that they are promising is really just that too big, then they would really be that definitely be trying to hide into that person and wont really be tending to show themselves even into their closest friend and this is really just that very normal reaction by someone. For me if ever there will really be those kind of promises then i dont really take it seriously because when you are in extreme joy then you can say up things on which you might not mean it on the end on which this will really be causing up that possible conflict with other things.

Mentality of Gamblers Before and After Winning it always come from the small win and then after the taste of winning usually people can't stop and want to bet more and more.
From there sometimes people start to bet more till they hitting loses for the first times and some people are trying to chase the losses and ruin his life

So yeah you basically need to take control when you win or when you losses

I think you are right because it is not everybody that have the mindset of taking what does not belong to them. The same we are seeing m gambling, seeing people that can do anything even though it requires them to cheat so that they can win the actual bet. This also happens in real life when some gamblers would rather cheat so they they could win making other gamblers to look like they are fools. People are quite different and it's good we understand that making serious we don't treat everybody the same way just because we don't know them.

People are different, if the person did not fulfill his promise doesn't mean another person will not, don't you no that even most strangers who you barely no may not have the mind to eat your money if he had the chance?, I saw that from an Uber driver who carried a passenger that forgot his briefcase on his car and it was later the Uber driver realized that there was something at the back seat of his car and when he opened the briefcase it was a lot of money that could change his life completely but he never thought of taking advantage of the money so he had to go back to the address he dropped the passenger and return the money, so actually people are not completely wicked as it shows when it comes to money but is only when you have a wrong person you will have such experience.

They think that now is the time for them to recover their losses so that makes them keep playing gambling without think that their winning is just temporary. No one will know if they can win in the next rounds but they can loss in anytime without taking too long. He can forget about his promise and not give the money to other as his promise because he thinks that he will make more money first and then he will gives that money. But then he loss his money in the next rounds which makes him can not gives the money.
No wonder if you have that experienced because I have the same experienced like you but I am not think too much because since he borrow my money, I decide to give that money without wanting to ask the money back. I know he will not come back to me especially if he have the money so I don't takes too serious about that.

Well I don't think you should use indirect way to talk to him rather he should know that you guys have already reach into agreement or into discussion that he would give you 10% knowing too well that you aren't the one who asked him for that amount from his total winning, but to me even as that if he is not willing to give you that money promised by him then I will suggest you should leave him alone because if you try to push further he would see you as a begger rather, he was the one who said to give you 10% so let it come from his mind to give the percent and if he refuses then you can leave him alone that is all.

I think that it is not about such situation. The OPs friend was near big win and said it being excited. The OP doesn`t ask him about any prize, but the winner is shamed with himselfs words and avoids the OP. Without emotions he understand that he mustn`t pay OP but nervious because it was his suggestion.
I think that they have to wait some time and forget this situation. After it they will become friends again.

There have always been this feeling of excitement especially to gamblers who have much fare in the odds of a game and at that moment they can promise anyone eternity having thoughts of winning the game and mostimes when they actually do so, they don't keep to their words, some might even be off for awhile till they have spend the while proceeds from the wins.

It is true that gamblers change their mindset after winning in gambling, because they forget the past and later they have a desire to win more. If there is a role for giving money in gambling, then after winning, the gambler changes his mindset and later forgets to keep this promise. He fails to follow this incident in turn, but some gamblers do such a disrespect.
However, in my life, I lent money to a friend while gambling, later that gambler faced losses while gambling. Today, it has been more than two years and he has not paid me back, and since then I have not given him any more loans. The gambler forgets the promise he makes at the beginning while gambling, and later he does not keep it.

Your feelings are natural, like many of us. There is nothing surprising here. It is quite natural to feel joy when you win and disappointment when you lose money. Just like you, I now play only when I really need to, to get away from everyday worries. To escape into the world of excitement and adrenaline. You just can’t do without it. A person must have leisure time so as not to burn out mentally and physically.

It's normal in male friendship, you don't have to help anything, but they will give promise if x then I will do y. Hence, we have heard so many women saying men only give promise, but zero action. This one is the example, @OP's friend promise to give 10% of the profit, but he didn't do it.

The reality is high class people tend to not help low class people and low class people tend to help other people. If you care with "friendship" you're high unlikely be rich since you value friendship over money, rich people don't have friends, but they have colleagues, acquaintances, schoolmates, clients.

First off, why did he agree to give you 10% of the earnings? Did you help him place any of his bets or was it because he just didn't want you to feel left out.? At the end of the day your very friendship might be riding on this $140 that you now feel entitled to because of his half promise and unwillingness to pay. He may regret agreeing to pay this money after having won, your best case is to go to him and congratulate him on his win and tell him to not worry about the money. If what you say is true and you are trying to get off of a gambling addiction then you should have no business getting into sports betting right now lest you want to get back in the same hole you just dug yourself out of.