Topic: Mentality of Gamblers Before and After Winning - page 9. (Read 1875 times)
Winning has its own effect it comes with just like w e do see with loosing where you want to continue with the mind that you will surely win and recover so it with winning where you may think you can double and increase your winnings, you may even feel you are becoming skillful enough and so you can literally win the game again for a second time forgetting you may have been just lucky, I see it that basically that was what played out with the Case of your friend, some kind of winning always comes with wanting more meanwhile some others who have got discipline will definitely not come with such.
There are some who won’t honor their promises, but the majority of gamblers do. As gamblers, we’re people willing to take risks, and most of us value our word. So, IMO, it’s only right to give someone what they’re owed if you’ve made a promise as being honest is important.
Of course, greed can sometimes get in the way, especially when it comes to money. If 10% is a significant amount, some might feel reluctant to give it to someone who didn’t even risk a single centavo. But that’s just how it is, every gambler has a different mindset and attitude. You just have to accept it, because at the end of the day, it’s not really a gambler’s obligation to give you that 10%.
Of course, greed can sometimes get in the way, especially when it comes to money. If 10% is a significant amount, some might feel reluctant to give it to someone who didn’t even risk a single centavo. But that’s just how it is, every gambler has a different mindset and attitude. You just have to accept it, because at the end of the day, it’s not really a gambler’s obligation to give you that 10%.
You're right, may be the %10 not something he can easily give out due the fact of him thinking that he was that risk it all , but the part he messed is avoiding you , you guys are friends if you know you can't give out the %10 (that's why Is good not to promise something when you happy or sad) , but still he should have give something even though is not that amount he promised, getting little is better than not getting anything at all .
The match ended with a win and we were both happy. Personally, I wasn't concerned about receiving any money from him as I was more focused on my recovery to not set a bet or deposit ever again. However, the next day my friend avoided me and didn't follow through on his promise even though I wouldn’t have minded if he didn’t.
For me I won’t even think his behavior had anything to do with his winning - I think that’s just the way he is.
If he was a trustworthy person he would have gone through with his promise even if it meant that he’d give you a huge amount of his win or if he was being considerate he’d have talked to you about reducing the amount a bit since he did it probably because of the hormonal rush (that’s if the amount is indeed large) but the fact that he showed no interest in keeping to his part of the deal shows that he’s not to be trusted with other things since that’s how he’ll still behave after achieving what he wants.
Mentality of gamblers are not always the same, some will likely continue gambling after much loss to recover their loses or will continue gambling after wining to increase the chance of more win. While some will quite emediately they lose or win big to avoid more loses knowing the risk involved. But however in which ever way, most gambler falls under the category of people who continue gambling after lose or win due to either chasing after loses or gambling out of greed. And I think your friend fall in that category.
I completely agree that a gambler's personality before betting and after betting will not be the same. The situation of that friend may change after betting as he was before placing the bet. Maybe after winning one bet, he gets a significant return, but he may lose more in another bet. But after winning one bet, that person must have taken a break so that he can make better decisions in his next bet. A big problem of an addicted gambler is that he does not know when to stop. Some know but cannot follow it. There are many gamblers in gambling who think win one after another and lose. Without a doubt, your friend is a compulsive gambler or he is addicted to gambling. What I took away from this experience is how the mentality of gamblers can change after a win. The thrill of success often leaves us wanting more and in this case it seemed like my friend was caught in that cycle, as I was feeling before too and he was unable to honor his word probably because he wanted to keep increasing his gains and bet more. It's a reminder that the brain is never truly satisfied when gambling, there's always the desire for more. I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?
I experienced that myself and was blamed for not reminding the guy of what was promised to me. Gamblers have twisted minds when winning and losing it afterwards.
ready on exchanging anything for the sake of money and doesnt really give out at least some importance about on things on which it do end up on having that kind of break of relationship.
Wanting more is the common mentality of every gambler. Before we risk, our inner mind used to have the thought to stop gambling once the bet is won. If the bet has won, then the gambler goes further looking for the win on the next bet. If the bet is lost, the gambler's mind starts to look for opportunities to recover what is being lost. This is common, and what we see is the incident between two friends. At the end we were able to understand that money can change one's mentality in no time. We need to be mature enough to handle situations in a positive way.
This is very correct; gambling is just something else, and we all have that in us, which always wants to discourage us in times we want to gamble, not to gamble, and sometimes it leads us to winning, and the zed to continue always comes to us, and it's hard to avoid it, and when we lose, we always want to start fighting to get back what we have lost and still try to get more, which it takes someone hard work to resist that zed because it always leads to losing more funds. 
You should be wondering what kind of friend he is? In this case we necessarily have to put aside gambling and about fulfilling his promises. I believe the easiest money to give someone should be that gotten from gambling compared to the one that was worked and earned. I have seen in some physical gambling shops, how after a big win people who won just gift out few percentage of the money won to those who were present at that moment, they do this without considering being a friend or not, most times they do not know each other or even just knowing by face alone due to always using the same gambling location. Your friends act was something personal, it is not any lifestyle of a gambler, and his mentality was not only bad but actually a greedy one.
What I took away from this experience is how the mentality of gamblers can change after a win. The thrill of success often leaves us wanting more and in this case it seemed like my friend was caught in that cycle, as I was feeling before too and he was unable to honor his word probably because he wanted to keep increasing his gains and bet more. It's a reminder that the brain is never truly satisfied when gambling, there's always the desire for more. I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?
I experienced that myself and was blamed for not reminding the guy of what was promised to me. Gamblers have twisted minds when winning and losing it afterwards.
Mentality of gamblers are not always the same, some will likely continue gambling after much loss to recover their loses or will continue gambling after wining to increase the chance of more win. While some will quite emediately they lose or win big to avoid more loses knowing the risk involved. But however in which ever way, most gambler falls under the category of people who continue gambling after lose or win due to either chasing after loses or gambling out of greed. And I think your friend fall in that category.
Yes, that's what happens when someone is addicted to gambling. They always make unnecessary promises and promises that they can't keep. I've been fooled by them several times, when they borrow money to gamble, and they promise to return it as soon as possible, especially if they win, they promise to pay more.
and before my eyes, I once saw that he had won a number of wins and it was more than 10 times the amount of money he deposited. But instead of paying his debt to me, he deposited all the money he earned on various gambling sites. in the end, the winnings were used again for gambling and the debt to me is still unpaid. and starting from several incidents made me reluctant to lend money to gamblers again, but on the other hand when someone is addicted to gambling, they have a lot of tricks to get loans so they can gamble, yes, such as pretending to be sick or running out of money on the trip. and stupidly I always believe in their tricks, because my instincts and conscience can't if I see people in trouble even though they are just pretending.
and before my eyes, I once saw that he had won a number of wins and it was more than 10 times the amount of money he deposited. But instead of paying his debt to me, he deposited all the money he earned on various gambling sites. in the end, the winnings were used again for gambling and the debt to me is still unpaid. and starting from several incidents made me reluctant to lend money to gamblers again, but on the other hand when someone is addicted to gambling, they have a lot of tricks to get loans so they can gamble, yes, such as pretending to be sick or running out of money on the trip. and stupidly I always believe in their tricks, because my instincts and conscience can't if I see people in trouble even though they are just pretending.
I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?
You can call him and behave like you just found out that he has won the last game, congratulate him, and ask him how he feels about the win. He should probably remember his promise when you do that, and if he has at least some ethics in him, he should realize his mistake and may even mention his promise. If he doesn't mention anything about it, just leave it and don't ask him anything directly, and remember next time that no one would happily give you anything from what they have won by making bets with their own money even if they say they would.
People these days are too greedy to honor their words, especially in such situations where they know they are obligated to do it since they didn't ask money from you before making the bets so that they would return the favor. He probably said that out of happiness and probably didn't mean it.
Well, honestly, gambling has left a lasting impact on my life these days, even as I work hard to stay away from it. This recent experience with my friend reminded me of how deeply it affects our mindset. Winning creates a rush that clouds judgment ad making us chase more instead of appreciating what we have.
I have e been there, caught in that and it’s why I stopped gambling and began healing. This situation wasn’t about the money he promised but about how gambling changes us, often pulling us further into it grip. It’s a powerful reminder that gambling takes more than it gives, even when it feels like you are winning.
I have e been there, caught in that and it’s why I stopped gambling and began healing. This situation wasn’t about the money he promised but about how gambling changes us, often pulling us further into it grip. It’s a powerful reminder that gambling takes more than it gives, even when it feels like you are winning.
as i see it, it's another reminder to stay away from gambling, and from people around you IRL who gamble.
stay strong brother. this shall pass, and only the lessons learned and memories will remain.
I have even attached a screenshot from my friends phone from the day he won, right before withdrawing the money. It’s a strange turn of events.
i really want to give your friend the benefit of the doubt and say maybe he will follow through on his promise later. but looking at the win, which is around $8k, 10% is a lot knowing where you are from.
probably why he's going back on his word. but if you ask him and he say no or start to give excuses, then fuck him!
i would rather have no friends than friends who go back on their word.
Wanting more is the common mentality of every gambler. Before we risk, our inner mind used to have the thought to stop gambling once the bet is won. If the bet has won, then the gambler goes further looking for the win on the next bet. If the bet is lost, the gambler's mind starts to look for opportunities to recover what is being lost. This is common, and what we see is the incident between two friends. At the end we were able to understand that money can change one's mentality in no time. We need to be mature enough to handle situations in a positive way.
What I took away from this experience is how the mentality of gamblers can change after a win. The thrill of success often leaves us wanting more and in this case it seemed like my friend was caught in that cycle, as I was feeling before too and he was unable to honor his word probably because he wanted to keep increasing his gains and bet more. It's a reminder that the brain is never truly satisfied when gambling, there's always the desire for more. I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?
The thoughts of wanting more is constant in our minds, leave gambling aside we all want more especially when its the taste of success. Well there is a great saying that " never make promises when you are too excited " because when your not in that mood anymore, you may come into realization of the inconveniences those promises may cause you. The did has already been done and if your friend fails to redeem his promises or even half of what he promised then his actions are wrong but of a fact it's his money and he can do whatever he wishes to do with it. But its better not to have made those promises to a friend than to destroy a long lasting relationship because of 10% of your wining, though I know how one can come to realization that he had made a mistake for making promises regardless the amount of money you won, something the amount cannot be able to take care of our needs and want. But the best option is to let go the amount of money you promised.
My advise is, if he doesn't give you anything off his promise, move on. He is not to first to break promises, but surely he'll come to realization someday.
There are some who won’t honor their promises, but the majority of gamblers do. As gamblers, we’re people willing to take risks, and most of us value our word. So, IMO, it’s only right to give someone what they’re owed if you’ve made a promise as being honest is important.
i would agree that honoring promises is important but it is not like they signed a contract to say that his friend will give him a percentage of his earnings however what my problem would be with his friend avoiding him is clearly he has changedwe should always remember where we come from and he doesn’t seem to be doing that now that he is earning from gambling money definitely changes you but it shouldn’t be that way
If you don't mind him not keeping his promise, then I think you can just act normal or maybe, you can ask him casually or jokingly. That way, you will know how he will respond, whether he will give you a percentage of the profits earned as promised, or maybe he still doesn't give what he promised himself. That way, you will know his true nature and then, you can still consider him as a friend,or you can also leave or no longer care about him as a friend. But yes, if you really want to keep your friend good, then you can give him advice, because that kind of mentality will make him addicted to gambling over time.
I have a different mentality every time I gamble. I always think its the last time I will gamble but the next day, I will still be promising the same, its the last time I will gamble.
Do you think to quit gambling both after winning or losing ? Usually when people win in gambling they never think of quiting as winning give them more reason to gamble more to make more money. In case of loss, the people think that gambling is not their thing and they become hopeless on losing money and hence think to quit.
However an overnight sleep will make them fresh again and you will find them doing gambling once again no matter how much they lost the last night
I won’t say that the mentality restricts it to gamblers only. Be it any sport where winning and losing are present, the mentality of the players changes accordingly. We all like to win. Aren’t we? Similar things happen after gambling also. We are risking money; hence, we are determined to win the bet. Now after the win we feel proud of ourselves, and that is common. I think we should not think about these types of topics related to gambling. We are not capable of judging our own sentiments and mentality. Just focus on gambling and greens.
I wouldn't say it's the thrill that caused.
Yeah it made him make the promise, we do alot of things when we happy
But keeping to promises is another thing entirely.
There are individuals who stick to their words and principles
Unfortunately he isn't one of said individuals at least now you have learnt something that promises doesn't mean much to him.
Give him sometime and maybe talk about football to toggle his memory and if he doesn't come through
You can advice him on the impact of broken promises to trust.
Yeah it made him make the promise, we do alot of things when we happy
But keeping to promises is another thing entirely.
There are individuals who stick to their words and principles
Unfortunately he isn't one of said individuals at least now you have learnt something that promises doesn't mean much to him.
Give him sometime and maybe talk about football to toggle his memory and if he doesn't come through
You can advice him on the impact of broken promises to trust.
You are right and I also agree, from what op's friend showed, his friend is a type of person who doesn't know how to keep promises. And that's probably one of the factors that op won't believe his friend if he ever makes that promise to him or anyone else because he himself has experienced and witnessed it.
At least op wasn't the one who was broken but his friend, so there was no demand that op told his friend to give it to him but it seemed like his friend was just bragging to him that he really didn't have it in his heart to keep it.
I don't really know if I will say humans are just naturally that way because this eagerness to have more, no matter the amount we get our hands on, is just in almost everyone; sometimes it's as if humans are just naturally greedy, but only a few are able to manage their greed to the minimum level.
One thing about this whole situation is that he won't even want to know if you truly care about the money; all not inside of him, he has already calculated how he will not give it to you and the strategy he will use to escape from honouring his promise.
One thing about this whole situation is that he won't even want to know if you truly care about the money; all not inside of him, he has already calculated how he will not give it to you and the strategy he will use to escape from honouring his promise.
It was all a change of thought and the winner wouldn't think of his friend until he needs another help regarding gambling. When next he shows up, that would be Op's best moment to ease out his advice for the player and remind him of their previous agreement.
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