Topic: Merit "trading" - buying and selling Bitcointalk merit - page 18. (Read 36311 times)

This whole place has just turned into a shithole, where posters pretend to defend the "marvellous" MERIT System, by praising it, telling everyone how wonderful of an implementation it is, and in fact secretly wishing to be merited for their moronic intervention.
That's why we have tons of posts explaining, with the exact same terms "meaningful" "constructive" "contribute" "smart" "active", like bots posting copy-cats posts by thousands, why they understood the system (and maybe trying to throw a tongue for a small licking-your-ass session) and how hard they'll do their best to follow those rules.
It's like a sect with members mumbling their mantra.
And, well, some of them succeed in being merited that way, that's the funny part.
In the same time, we now have a kind of KGB-like inquisition, whose role is to denounce queue-jumpers...

But where the fuck is that cypher-punk state of mind from the beginning ?

I really really miss the original state of mind of that forum, back in 2011.

Maybe I was just dreaming at that time, and I have solely opened my eyes now ?

Yes it is. Buying and selling merits isn't allowed. Only merit a that's good enough and don't merit a post that you only agreed Theymos said.  When you are posting make sure you're that you don't made an error.

Merit has made new members stuck with their rank.
this is very difficult and seems unfair. old members are more benefited with this system.

It is currently difficult to earn merits. I think the merit system should be reviewed.

It is currently difficult to get merits. I think the merit system should be reviewed.

I agree, the problem is the meaning of the post with many users, but buying merit is abusive.

Are you been self-critic here?

But selling-buying is actually happening or just exchange between friends and multiple accounts. On Local boards you may see such suggestions and other things about merit. I really do not know where the forum's moderators look for if such merit abusing stuff is happening like daily.

Merits were introduced to reward quality content and ensure the input in the forum are all constructive.
Trading merits should be frowned upon measured should be put in place to check it.

If i could suggest for this situation,the merit system should be revised,because,even someone who want to give a merit to the one who have a quality posts,sometimes there's a hesitation in their minds to give it,because of,it might be sold by someone who need merits and pay. So,the really purpose of sendable merits will be useless,because of buying merits happenings.

Having an informative or useful post does not mean you'll get a merit.  I've seen exceptional posts that did not even get a single merit. It's like you'll have more chances getting hit with a lightning than getting a merit here so it's not surprising that members are thinking ways where they can get merits faster.

Looking at your post here, it's pretty obvious why you're not earning it.  Your English sucks, and if you're writing like this in other sections don't expect any.  Not sure what translations have to do with merit earning either, or why you even care about it.  Did you come here for the chat or to rank up?  What are you complaining about?

You'll never catch me complaining about the merit system, or even about sales.  Those people will burn themselves out eventually and the merit tap will run dry.

Because merits are so hard to obtain, Its not a surprise why somebody cheated to have this one. Those who have money buys, and those who have friends exchanges theirs. The real reason and meaning of merits are now gone because of it. Even you post some quality topics or comments, it doesnt get merits unless you cheat. Hope thisl kin of cheatibg stops.

This is abusing the merit system that were implemented to encourage members to produce good and quality content. Also they are leveraging them selves by selling what was intended to be given to deserving and hardworking members of the bitcointalk community. I know this is not a perfect system since it is being abused by a small group of individuals but I believe it is fir the best and as a member we should be providing support to it by reporting such members that abuse it.

Merit was meant to send for an individual's quality post. But as I see sending merit to this person and that is very tough for everyone especially the people who wants to be promoted to a higher rank, maybe they feel they give merit but they don't receive eventhough they had the guts that their post has its quality and deserve to get merit.

I agree with your opinion, merit sale is strictly prohibited and is not permitted by moderators, if trying to sell and buy merit then moderators will penalize accounts related to negative trust and can even be permanently banned.

This is nothing new, it's been the same earlier before merit appeared, this was also happening with the trust. There have always been and always will be some users who will abuse such systems thinking they have the right to keep the monopoly and decide who deserves something and who doesn't. Some of them were giving negative trust just because they don't like your name on bitcointalk or just because you applied on certain signature campaign. But to my opinion these are deeply frustrated people who don't have real life outside this forum and this is the only place they feel important.
Generaly determing someone's quality is very subjective and depends from one person to the other and the system of values so don't bother with that too much, you can't change anything.

merit system don't work.. for example i write a lot of translation for a lot of project and make some guide but none of this post was merited... so my possibility to go up in the rank it's 0..

I personally like this whole system. This procedure determines people to write quality comments and really bring value, to add something unique to the thread, an idea that really helps.

I am very curious, as long as this is a website about cryptocurrency, why aren't we using tokens to incentivise the comments? Instead of merits, to receive tokens that shall be used to incentivise future quality comments. The exact same way of doing things, but using tokens.

Definitely this idea needs to be polished very well in order to avoid using the tokens fraudulent, but I really think that it could work out. An AI that would prevent fraud. The tokens to be passed from one to another as a way of "meriting" the comments. Nobody would hold that token, his merit number would be replaced with the number of tokens received and sent to others afterwards. Every token having a history of all his "temporary owners". That token could be crypto animal - lion (as are the crytokitties) to make it more fun. Some sort of GAMIFICATION system with tokens - animals sleeping, roaring, being happy and so on. I really think that only for the pleasure of having such an animal in your back office would determine people to do a way better jobs. In a certain way, at a certain level, we are still kids. Why shouldn't we make it an excititing experience?

What do you guys think about this idea? How should it be polished in order to be implemented?

      "Merit" is a helpful tool for everyone to improve knowledge and contribute good quality post that also a way to makes your account matured. Gaining "merit" throught contributing quality post makes feeling good than to get your merit through trading to others merits. And we know buy and sell of merits is an abuse to this forum and it won't help you to matured here but to gain punishment.