I think it's a bit embarrassing that Verstappen, who is already the world champion, doesn't want to help Perez to become a safe vice world champion. I think he has already forgotten what Perez did for Verstappen last season, just think of the final where he kept Hamilton behind him for a long time.
Verstappen could have easily passed Perez, RedBull also wants the vice world championship title at all costs and for Verstappen it's all about nothing, because he had no chance of winning.
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November 14, 2022, 10:30:00 AM
November 14, 2022, 04:22:42 AM
Great race! Congrats to George Russell, he finally got his first win. He was so happy, I'm glad to see him like this, he well deserved it. Hamilton took second place and Mercedes do the double. It's their first win this season, feels weird after long years of domination, they could only get one win in last races. Next year they will be better. Sainz got third place and Leclerc in fourth, we heard funny convos about replacing places. But neither Ferrari nor RBR racers made that move. I think it's against the spirit of the race anyway. Hamilton got the driver of the day vote but Alonso also had a great race and finish fifth. He needs to drive a better car, that's for sure.
Verstappen and Hamilton bumped into each other, Leclerc and Norris also bumped into each other, this moment was lucky for Russell because Verstappen and Norris were hit with a 5-second penalty. I saw on the podium that Russell was very happy with his first win since 2019 and the Mercedes team's first win of the season.I think that I agree with Verstappen this time when in the radio he was communicated a 5 seconds penalty for causing a collision and he replied "Where they wanted me to go" and for me he was right,there was no space left from Hamilton but like Verstappen said soon after,whatever it is of no importance this 5 seconds penalty as he is already Champion.
Maybe he should have let Perez pass but I am sure in the last race Perez will be helped by all the team to be in front of Leclerc to get that second place,which honestly I find it of at least importance.
November 14, 2022, 03:38:03 AM
Great race! Congrats to George Russell, he finally got his first win. He was so happy, I'm glad to see him like this, he well deserved it. Hamilton took second place and Mercedes do the double. It's their first win this season, feels weird after long years of domination, they could only get one win in last races. Next year they will be better. Sainz got third place and Leclerc in fourth, we heard funny convos about replacing places. But neither Ferrari nor RBR racers made that move. I think it's against the spirit of the race anyway. Hamilton got the driver of the day vote but Alonso also had a great race and finish fifth. He needs to drive a better car, that's for sure.
Verstappen and Hamilton bumped into each other, Leclerc and Norris also bumped into each other, this moment was lucky for Russell because Verstappen and Norris were hit with a 5-second penalty. I saw on the podium that Russell was very happy with his first win since 2019 and the Mercedes team's first win of the season. 
November 13, 2022, 04:44:50 PM
Russel deserved the win today, he got a superb weekend.
So we can assume the simulation was true.
When they change the directive n°39 Mercedes gained with no improvements 0.6-0.8 of seconds while Ferrari got a "penalty" of 0.5 sec.
Easy game easy life.
Also not sure it is the final podium with Sainz under investigation.
So we can assume the simulation was true.
When they change the directive n°39 Mercedes gained with no improvements 0.6-0.8 of seconds while Ferrari got a "penalty" of 0.5 sec.
Easy game easy life.
Also not sure it is the final podium with Sainz under investigation.
November 13, 2022, 04:33:02 PM
The sprint race was basically a proof that Magnussen would not be able to keep his position to a good level. I hoped he would be at least top 5 but that’s fine I guess. He would have hard time getting some points in the race as well, but if he races well and they don't make any strategy mistakes and maybe there are some crashes, he could finish in top 10, even maybe 7th or 8th if all goes according to the plan. Outside of that I think Max is not going to do that badly, during the sprint he didn't do so well, but I think it was all due to the wing problem, I think with him being much more ready this time and probably not going to face anyone else with different tire set, he is going to be winner easily.
November 13, 2022, 04:24:01 PM
Indeed, simply great race. First Russel win - well deserved. Meanwhile it's very likely that Hamilton will end season without a win for the first time in his career.
I'm very disappointed about what Verstappen did in the end. He is champion already, he didn't even fighted for podium today, but no, he didn't agreed change position with Perez. Checo is fighting for 2nd place in championship and every point matters for him. Though, I can't say that I'm surprised about Verstappen.
While it looked ridiculuous when Leclerc were asking Sainz to change position. C'mon, you're 4 seconds behind Sainz and you have Alonso right behind you, how you imagine such thing to happen?
While Alonso, another amazing performance from him
I'm very disappointed about what Verstappen did in the end. He is champion already, he didn't even fighted for podium today, but no, he didn't agreed change position with Perez. Checo is fighting for 2nd place in championship and every point matters for him. Though, I can't say that I'm surprised about Verstappen.
While it looked ridiculuous when Leclerc were asking Sainz to change position. C'mon, you're 4 seconds behind Sainz and you have Alonso right behind you, how you imagine such thing to happen?
While Alonso, another amazing performance from him
November 13, 2022, 04:08:22 PM
A great race has finally finished. The Brazil GP gave us just much more than I expected. Hamilton was voted for the driver of the day and he totally deserved it too. Because despite Verstappen's dirty attack, he still stayed in the race and continued to fight hard. This ambition helped him finish in the second place. I'm really happy for Russell as this was his first ever GP win in F1. His best record was being the 2nd before this. He also deserved the win from the beginning to the end by a clean race.
Perez was very unfortunate in this race. Because he was caught with medium tyres to the safety car. Leclerc, Sainz and Alonso all made use of this advantage by getting soft tyres. They all overtook Perez easily. Leclerc has got ahead of Perez once again by only one point now in the standings. If Verstappen let Perez pass then Perez would have still kept being ahead.
Perez was very unfortunate in this race. Because he was caught with medium tyres to the safety car. Leclerc, Sainz and Alonso all made use of this advantage by getting soft tyres. They all overtook Perez easily. Leclerc has got ahead of Perez once again by only one point now in the standings. If Verstappen let Perez pass then Perez would have still kept being ahead.
November 13, 2022, 04:05:40 PM
Great race! Congrats to George Russell, he finally got his first win. He was so happy, I'm glad to see him like this, he well deserved it. Hamilton took second place and Mercedes do the double. It's their first win this season, feels weird after long years of domination, they could only get one win in last races. Next year they will be better. Sainz got third place and Leclerc in fourth, we heard funny convos about replacing places. But neither Ferrari nor RBR racers made that move. I think it's against the spirit of the race anyway. Hamilton got the driver of the day vote but Alonso also had a great race and finish fifth. He needs to drive a better car, that's for sure.
November 13, 2022, 03:20:24 PM
The safety car!
Too many variables on this day, don't know who can win now.
Russell has a big chance but Hamilton with bite his back.
Sainz 4th should be able to overtake Perez now.
prediction, HAM RUS SAI
Too many variables on this day, don't know who can win now.
Russell has a big chance but Hamilton with bite his back.
Sainz 4th should be able to overtake Perez now.
prediction, HAM RUS SAI
November 13, 2022, 03:08:58 PM
Verstappen tried a really uncomprehensible move against Hamilton and messed it up. I don't know why he did it for real. He just made things worse for Hamilton while Hamilton was targeting a win on this track. We have witnessed some other incidents that made the race more interesting. So far we have watched a nice race.
Hamilton is still doing a great job and he took the second position from Perez by a nice overtake a short time ago. Things are going on really well for Russell as he is still in the lead. I wonder if we can watch a Russell - Hamilton rivalry when there aren't many laps to go for the end.
Hamilton is still doing a great job and he took the second position from Perez by a nice overtake a short time ago. Things are going on really well for Russell as he is still in the lead. I wonder if we can watch a Russell - Hamilton rivalry when there aren't many laps to go for the end.
November 13, 2022, 02:22:26 PM
What a start for this race, Verstappen, Leclerc, and Hamilton got into an accident and now they are back.
They need to hope for safety car now.
They need to hope for safety car now.
November 13, 2022, 12:26:20 PM
Verstappen is already worried about this race. I mean that he is the champion of course but he must be thinking about next season also considering Mercedes' great performance in sprint yesterday. He said that they didn't know how to stop Mercedes drivers in this race yet. We all saw how strong they were in the end. Both of them overtook Verstappen easily.
However the reason of these overtakes was related to not preferring the right tyres for sprint and Verstappen's taking some damage during it as well. I don't think Red Bull would make the same mistake. They aren't Ferrrari in the end, right?
However we might still watch a wonderful race for Russell - Hamilton duo. It would be really good to see Russell getting his first win in his career here though. There is some kind of a record going on for Hamilton as well like he has won at least one race in every season for 14 years. Let's see if one of these drivers will make it.
However the reason of these overtakes was related to not preferring the right tyres for sprint and Verstappen's taking some damage during it as well. I don't think Red Bull would make the same mistake. They aren't Ferrrari in the end, right?
However we might still watch a wonderful race for Russell - Hamilton duo. It would be really good to see Russell getting his first win in his career here though. There is some kind of a record going on for Hamilton as well like he has won at least one race in every season for 14 years. Let's see if one of these drivers will make it.One thing is sure though and that is if they don't do it here in Brazil I doubt very much they can in Abu Dhabi seeing Redbull performance in those tracks.I have about 0.10 Litecoin spare to bet here and if the odd for Verstappen is high I am going to place a bet on him to win the race,after seeing the starting grid I am assuming Sainz got a penalty as I see the duo of Mercedes starting one two and then the duo of Redbull while third yesterday was Sainz.Based on this starting grid I am assuming that despite that the season is over we are going to watch a really beautiful race just after 2 hours.
November 13, 2022, 11:29:19 AM
Verstappen is already worried about this race. I mean that he is the champion of course but he must be thinking about next season also considering Mercedes' great performance in sprint yesterday. He said that they didn't know how to stop Mercedes drivers in this race yet. We all saw how strong they were in the end. Both of them overtook Verstappen easily.
However the reason of these overtakes was related to not preferring the right tyres for sprint and Verstappen's taking some damage during it as well. I don't think Red Bull would make the same mistake. They aren't Ferrrari in the end, right? However we might still watch a wonderful race for Russell - Hamilton duo. It would be really good to see Russell getting his first win in his career here though. There is some kind of a record going on for Hamilton as well like he has won at least one race in every season for 14 years. Let's see if one of these drivers will make it.
However the reason of these overtakes was related to not preferring the right tyres for sprint and Verstappen's taking some damage during it as well. I don't think Red Bull would make the same mistake. They aren't Ferrrari in the end, right?
However we might still watch a wonderful race for Russell - Hamilton duo. It would be really good to see Russell getting his first win in his career here though. There is some kind of a record going on for Hamilton as well like he has won at least one race in every season for 14 years. Let's see if one of these drivers will make it. 
November 13, 2022, 11:17:15 AM
The race at the Pertamina Mandalika Circuit was very decisive for Bautista, considering that this circuit was very compatible with Yamaha's character and Toprak's riding style, as evidenced by the good results he got in Race1 and SP Race.
now Bautista is getting more and more depressed because Toprak has slowly reduced the distance of points, and to determine the WSBK world champion, there is only 1 Race left in Australia, therefore at this time Bautista must be consistent in order to always be in the front row to remain at the top of the world champion standings.
Alvaro Bautista is already the WSBK world champion today after successfully finishing second in Race2 at the Mandalika circuit. Because before Race 2 started, Alvaro Bautista was already 71 points ahead of Toprak who was in second place in the standings, so Alvaro Bautista immediately became world champion after successfully finishing the race in second place because his points had already greatly exceeded what was needed. Because in one race session in WSBK only 62 points are up for grabs. now Bautista is getting more and more depressed because Toprak has slowly reduced the distance of points, and to determine the WSBK world champion, there is only 1 Race left in Australia, therefore at this time Bautista must be consistent in order to always be in the front row to remain at the top of the world champion standings.
November 13, 2022, 01:26:17 AM
It's time to watch WSBK at Pertamina Mandalika Circuit. From yesterday until today I have seen Yamaha's Toprak excel in scoring his time and several times being the All Laps Record Team in Free Practice and Superpole. Looks like the WSBK race this time will be very fierce in Mandalika starting today for Race1 until tomorrow for SP Race and Race2 if the weather can be sunny or not raining, because now in Indonesia it rains very often.
The race at the Pertamina Mandalika Circuit was very decisive for Bautista, considering that this circuit was very compatible with Yamaha's character and Toprak's riding style, as evidenced by the good results he got in Race1 and SP Race.now Bautista is getting more and more depressed because Toprak has slowly reduced the distance of points, and to determine the WSBK world champion, there is only 1 Race left in Australia, therefore at this time Bautista must be consistent in order to always be in the front row to remain at the top of the world champion standings.
November 12, 2022, 09:38:34 PM
Mercedes is quite strong, and their trend is astonishing for the second part of this season.
Be aware for 2023 they will be back in the top probably.
It's really sad to see how Ferrari dropped the ball after the summer break. Maybe it's expectable that Ferrari couldn't beat RedBull in the WDC and WCC as weak performances before the summer break have shown. Be aware for 2023 they will be back in the top probably.
But honestly, Ferrari isn't even competitive against Mercedes anymore. It's not just bad strategy, it's also a lack of speed. And Sainz will get another engine tomorrow, so 5 places grid penalty incoming for him.
Next season, Ferrari will probably end up where it has been in 2021: fighting against McLaren...
At least, Ferarri couldn't bin any pitstops today because sprint races can be done without pit stops.
November 12, 2022, 05:35:03 PM
What the f happened to Verstappen,he lost a lot of pace during the last laps before losing completely when he lost his left front wing in the fight with Sainz.Well most probably the medium compound which Verstappen choose to go with to have better drive-ability in the end of the race turned to be the complete opposite,drivers with soft tires were having much better times than him.It will be an interesting race tomorrow and big congrats to George Russell who will start the second time in this season from the first position on the grid.
He had the wrong tires, he was the only one with yellow compound.
Mercedes is quite strong, and their trend is astonishing for the second part of this season.
Be aware for 2023 they will be back in the top probably.
November 12, 2022, 04:58:57 PM
I'm really speechless about how Red Bull can make a similar mistake to Ferrari's. As you know Ferrari made a big mistake by gambling on Leclerc's tyres in qualifying yesterday. Verstappen was like one of the two drivers who had mediums. This caused him to be slower than the others. Russell just saw the opportunity and took advantage of it. Not only the touch with Sainz but also some parts from Alonso's car caused some damage in Verstappen's car.
Tomorrow we can watch a really interesting race. If Red Bull don't make similar mistakes with the race strategies then Verstappen can still get the lead back from Russell. But I'm sure of one thing that Mercedes drivers will have an impressive race. This was just like a trailer of what they are capable of.
Tomorrow we can watch a really interesting race. If Red Bull don't make similar mistakes with the race strategies then Verstappen can still get the lead back from Russell. But I'm sure of one thing that Mercedes drivers will have an impressive race. This was just like a trailer of what they are capable of.
November 12, 2022, 04:47:53 PM
That was great sprint. Fight between Verstappen and Russel was amazing. And final outcome of sprint is unexpected low position of Verstappen. As expected, Magnusen didn't managed to kkep faster cars behind, but after all, 8th place gives him 1 point, what is important for Haas and him. And stroll just being Stroll. Pushing your teammate out of track is just stupid and fortunately, it didn't end race for both drivers.
There was message on screen about investigation of start procedure, I'm wondering what happened there. Maybe we still can see changes in sprint results.
There was message on screen about investigation of start procedure, I'm wondering what happened there. Maybe we still can see changes in sprint results.
What the f happened to Verstappen,he lost a lot of pace during the last laps before losing completely when he lost his left front wing in the fight with Sainz.Well most probably the medium compound which Verstappen choose to go with to have better drive-ability in the end of the race turned to be the complete opposite,drivers with soft tires were having much better times than him.It will be an interesting race tomorrow and big congrats to George Russell who will start the second time in this season from the first position on the grid.
I'm also wondering what happened to Verstappens's pace. For few laps Russel tried to overtake him, but even with DRS, he didn't managed to do it. And then something happened. I would say that his tyres ended, but no, he was on medium tyres, while almost whole grid on softs. November 12, 2022, 04:11:55 PM
What the f happened to Verstappen,he lost a lot of pace during the last laps before losing completely when he lost his left front wing in the fight with Sainz.Well most probably the medium compound which Verstappen choose to go with to have better drive-ability in the end of the race turned to be the complete opposite,drivers with soft tires were having much better times than him.It will be an interesting race tomorrow and big congrats to George Russell who will start the second time in this season from the first position on the grid.
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