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1   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m11.853s
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m11.857s
3   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m11.861s
4   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m12.039s
5   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m12.040s
6   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m12.055s
7   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m12.157s
8   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m12.314s
9   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m12.466s
10   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m12.467s
11   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m12.554s
12   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m12.633s
13   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m12.705s
14   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m12.759s
15   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m12.955s
16   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m12.997s
17   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m13.019s
18   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m13.115s
19   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m13.347s
20   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m13.359s

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1016832/1/f1-2022-sao-paulo-grand-prix-free-practice-results-1


Remember we will have sprint race, so qualify will be later today
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As for the race itself, the track will probably benefit RedBull or Ferrari again, while Mercedes will be a little weaker.



It's just a matter of who gets to post Verstappen, Verstappen, Verstappen first and wins the free bets.  Lol.  Maybe somebody could suggest that next season it would prolly be a good idea to include who got first in FP1, FP2 and FP3?  It would make the game more interesting.

Anyway, I guess the F1 fans itt have already lost interest?  I have too after Verstappen became the champ.  And there's not really interesting spots in F1 to put money on...  Especially lately as the rest of the teams have lost their motivation.  And there's no use to push it.
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Besides that, Quartararo's performance is not good also, he has crashed several time which make him lose points in the middle session, so when compare with 2021, Quartararo has 278 points which is very low as he gets it in this session (248). While Bagnaia, I think his performance is not much different from the last session, only get more than 13 points (265)  from the last session (252). So what makes Bagnaia be a champion is that haven't a strong opponent, Quartararo is underperformance, not because Bagnaia is better than before.
It seems a little inappropriate to say that Quartararo's performance was also not good because this season the determination of the world champion took place at the end of the race which was very rare in previous seasons. Although it has happened but is very rarely seen in every season for the determination of the world champion at the end of the session.

For example last season where Quartararo was able to celebrate the world champion a little earlier after Bagnaia crashed at Misano, as well as the 2020 season where Joan Mir celebrated the world champion before the final session, as well as the 2019 season where Marc Marquez who at that time was still super strong thus almost sweeping all podiums in 19 series in the 2019 season.

So it must be admitted that this season Quartararo is a rider that is being reckoned with by other manufacturers like Ducati because he can provide competition until the end of the season because if we only look at Bagnaia and ignore all other riders, then competition in MotoGP will never exist.

It was Bagnaia's own fault that he only became world champion in the last race and not earlier, I don't think there has ever been a world champion with 5 retirements and without a technical defect? But it is correct as last year Yamaha has become weaker and weaker over the season and Ducati stronger and stronger, but Bagnaia deserved the title this year. If Yamaha has a stronger bike next year and Marc Marquez finds his old form, it will no longer be possible to become world champion with 5 retirements.
I still can't make exact predictions for next year because all the manufacturers are working to make their motorcycle engines better than before and of course Yamaha and Honda are also trying their best to create a better bike to be able to fight Ducati next season. And the prediction will be known exactly when the last pre-season test session is over or at least when dorna seals all manufacturers' engines.
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Bagnaia's struggle when he was still 91 points behind Fabio Quartararo this season was extraordinary and even Bagnaia continued to take advantage of his good momentum to catch up points from his competitors this season so that Bagnaia clearly deserves to be world champion and besides that Ducati has worked hard and for a long time. provide important changes and innovations to their bikes in racing so that Ducati also deserves more achievements this season.

It was Bagnaia's own fault that he only became world champion in the last race and not earlier, I don't think there has ever been a world champion with 5 retirements and without a technical defect? But it is correct as last year Yamaha has become weaker and weaker over the season and Ducati stronger and stronger, but Bagnaia deserved the title this year. If Yamaha has a stronger bike next year and Marc Marquez finds his old form, it will no longer be possible to become world champion with 5 retirements.
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If you ever feel like it’s boring to see the same person winning all the time, then you can start to enjoy drivers from level teams and that would be amazing. Many people love Vettel, and to be fair his driving skill is unlike any other, it’s obvious that he would have shattered any record if he was just a bit luckier, how?

After his 4 years of domination, he could have gone to Mercedes if they offered a good amount or maybe they did but he didn't accept, if he went there, he would have won 8 in a row after that, making it 12 in a row. That dude is just unlike any other but in a horrible car, and many watched him this year, and many years before this, not win races and that is how you can make it fun.

He always expressed a desire to go in Ferrari and Ferrari promised him a winning car just like they have promised it to Alonso before.The fact is that Vettel also wanted to drive for Ferrari to follow his idol Michael Schumacher and got there.In the beginning he was fighting hard and he was even in a position to win a F1 season but at that season it was only his fault that he crashed a minimum of two times going out of the race and in the end of the season it turned out if he would have not crushed he would have been World Champion,so yes it is bad luck but also a bad choice.
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If you ever feel like it’s boring to see the same person winning all the time, then you can start to enjoy drivers from level teams and that would be amazing. Many people love Vettel, and to be fair his driving skill is unlike any other, it’s obvious that he would have shattered any record if he was just a bit luckier, how?

After his 4 years of domination, he could have gone to Mercedes if they offered a good amount or maybe they did but he didn't accept, if he went there, he would have won 8 in a row after that, making it 12 in a row. That dude is just unlike any other but in a horrible car, and many watched him this year, and many years before this, not win races and that is how you can make it fun.
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Congratulation to Bagnaia who won the world champions 2022. I don't expect in beginning he is able to beat Quartararo on the track. As I remembered he left 91 points in the middle of a session but was able to rise and come back to race with a competitor. This is the first time after 13 years that Casey stoner brings Ducati, Bagnaia look have his spirit and look smart take advantage of opportunities by learn from mistakes. So, we have more racer as a competitor on the next 2023.
Bagnaia's struggle when he was still 91 points behind Fabio Quartararo this season was extraordinary and even Bagnaia continued to take advantage of his good momentum to catch up points from his competitors this season so that Bagnaia clearly deserves to be world champion and besides that Ducati has worked hard and for a long time. provide important changes and innovations to their bikes in racing so that Ducati also deserves more achievements this season.
Besides that, Quartararo's performance is not good also, he has crashed several time which make him lose points in the middle session, so when compare with 2021, Quartararo has 278 points which is very low as he gets it in this session (248). While Bagnaia, I think his performance is not much different from the last session, only get more than 13 points (265)  from the last session (252). So what makes Bagnaia be a champion is that haven't a strong opponent, Quartararo is underperformance, not because Bagnaia is better than before.
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Congratulation to Bagnaia who won the world champions 2022. I don't expect in beginning he is able to beat Quartararo on the track. As I remembered he left 91 points in the middle of a session but was able to rise and come back to race with a competitor. This is the first time after 13 years that Casey stoner brings Ducati, Bagnaia look have his spirit and look smart take advantage of opportunities by learn from mistakes. So, we have more racer as a competitor on the next 2023.
Bagnaia's struggle when he was still 91 points behind Fabio Quartararo this season was extraordinary and even Bagnaia continued to take advantage of his good momentum to catch up points from his competitors this season so that Bagnaia clearly deserves to be world champion and besides that Ducati has worked hard and for a long time. provide important changes and innovations to their bikes in racing so that Ducati also deserves more achievements this season.
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As for the race itself, the track will probably benefit RedBull or Ferrari again, while Mercedes will be a little weaker.

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I also don't like to watch any driver dominating the whole season in F1. Who would like that in the end?

Of course there are so many people who are fans of winner drivers. But even they must be getting bored to see the season ending very early. If Ferrari didn't start to fail this much quickly then maybe we could have witnessed a fierce championship race between Verstappen and Leclerc. I really think that Leclerc is also an amazing driver and he deserves a title run. I still don't believe in Ferrari much about next season. Because they have shown bad examples to us for a long time. Even if they do good at first again I'll continue to doubt their performance in the long run.

Beside those there are also people running in a pool for F1 prediction on the forum here so I am one of them and normally if I was not a part of it I would also not watch the remaining F1 races as it does not make any sense.I also do not understand what joy can those who are for example fans of Verstappen see him win again after he is already Champion,that would not give any emotions to me if I was his fan.

Everything,every team is preparing already from much time now for the next car season,some teams started very early once they saw that they could not get anything from this season and hopefully next season would bring more joy than this one and a fiercer competition.
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I also don't like to watch any driver dominating the whole season in F1. Who would like that in the end?

Of course there are so many people who are fans of winner drivers. But even they must be getting bored to see the season ending very early. If Ferrari didn't start to fail this much quickly then maybe we could have witnessed a fierce championship race between Verstappen and Leclerc. I really think that Leclerc is also an amazing driver and he deserves a title run. I still don't believe in Ferrari much about next season. Because they have shown bad examples to us for a long time. Even if they do good at first again I'll continue to doubt their performance in the long run.
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Now that Max already won the title and now that Red Bull already has one, that looks like made people not care as much as they used to. I mean last year on the final race, so many people watched that I think it beat UCL finals or something, that was a huge amount of people watching at the same time, it was giant.

This year Max ended it early, which made it boring once again, just like the times Lewis won with ease before the season was over, and that makes viewership numbers go down. All those Lewis fans and max fans should realize that, their drivers winning doesn't really feel good for the sports fans, we don2t care who wins, we just care to see a fight fort it, if it is easy for anyone, it’s just boring.
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Although I don't see much in full this season because my TV signal is bad you deserve to be a champion. Next is The task for Asian manufacturers, if they want to survive and their champions must make improvements immediately.
If you have problems with a bad TV signal, try to subscribe to streaming SPO TV or through the SBO TV application which you can also use for free on your android smartphone. Today, all manufacturers who are still competing next year are also conducting tests in order to be able to make a super competitive motorcycle package to be used next year.


2022 will be a year that will be and will be remembered the most by Ducati. "Clean sweep" can be called for them in this year's achievements from the manufacturer to the satellite team.
That is a very, very decent and reasonable thing to get by a manufacturer based in Bologna, Italy (DUCATI). Because Ducati has spent a lot of money in terms of engine innovation and development, everything that Ducati has gained this year is natural. And even I don't think that's enough for Ducati because they haven't been world champions for a long time before this year.

I don't trust Honda next year either and there is only hope for Yamaha, Aprilia simply has a very small budget, but they get the maximum out of it.
Honda has had a very bad record this year and they seem to be struggling to make a competitive bike next year. So I also don't believe that Honda can make better results, but for Yamaha it's also very unlikely to get better if their new engine is not developed according to what their rider wants.
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While there are only two races left I see only one competition which is worth following in the remaining time of the season. It is between Perez and Leclerc for the second spot in the driver standings. After a solid race by Perez and Ferrari's struggles in the last race, Perez has got ahead of Leclerc by 5 points again. This rivalry is still fired up a lot and everything can change by every race remaining.

Ferrari should work out their problem in the last race and be ready for the Brazil GP. I know that they are already focused on next season's car. However they should at least be able to give a proper working car for Leclerc in the remaining races. Maybe it isn't like the championship but it would definitely be more satisfying for Leclerc to finish the season right behind Verstappen.
Let’s not forget that F1 is a place where you could be great or terrible in a span of just one season. Someone who became a champion a year earlier, could end up being middle pack next season, all based on regulation changes and new cars.

It means Max will want to win every single race, so that he could tally up a great run of wins, if he could end up with like 7-8 seasons as the best driver of the best car just like Lewis Hamilton did, it would be easy for him to break all of Hamiltons records, both championship and pole position and race wins. However, by 2026 we will have a brand new system in the car and Red Bull may or may not be great. This is why it is important for Max to win even when it doesn't matter, so he can tally up more wins for his career totals.
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And what's unique is that this season, none of the Asian manufacturers have won the world Grand Prix, both in the Moto3, Moto2 and MotoGP classes. This is really amazing because everything is controlled by European manufacturers and also in the MotoGP class the package is super complete when the Italian rider gets the world champion using a motorbike from an Italian manufacturer.

Their Motor Development has been incredible. Even today they dominate the number of MotoGP riders and champions this season. I think it's because of their considerable financial factors that they managed an Asian manufacturer that for several years has dominated MotoGP.
Congratulations to Bagnaia you're the champion of the season. After Casey Stoner you are the driver who made history after a hiatus of fifteen years. Although I don't see much in full this season because my TV signal is bad you deserve to be a champion. Next is The task for Asian manufacturers, if they want to survive and their champions must make improvements immediately.
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Congratulations to Francesco Bagnaia who has succeeded in becoming the MotoGP world champion this season (2022) with the factory Ducati. And congratulations also to the Ducati manufacturer who this season has managed to win three titles at once (Team World Champion, Constructors World Champion and Rider World Champion).
Ducati this season has been extraordinary and the achievements that have been achieved by Ducati this season are not only about the Triple Crown. But there are nine achievements that have been achieved by Ducati this season according to local sources that I read, including;

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Bagnaia is the winner!
He did not fail this one opportunity he got.

Quartararo is a better driver IMHO but he can't ride in the rain.

The next year we will back to Marquez dominance.

Next year is far ahead,I think all Italy should celebrate his win as it is a win that is been waiting for from 13 years already,he ended the Italy fast which I think the last winner was on 2009 from Valentino Rossi.I don't remember Dovizioso to have won any Championship but maybe I am wrong.Pecco was great yesterday as he did ride really well with a pragmatic ride and fully deserves this title after making great races in the last recent ones who gave him the so much needed confidence to become Champion,so only congrats to him.
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