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Congratulations to Francesco Bagnaia who has succeeded in becoming the MotoGP world champion this season (2022) with the factory Ducati. And congratulations also to the Ducati manufacturer who this season has managed to win three titles at once (Team World Champion, Constructors World Champion and Rider World Champion).
Yes. Congratulations to Francesco Bagnaia on the 2022 MotoGP world champion and congratulations to Ducati on the long wait. Congratulations also to Fabio Quartararo who has made this year's race full of competition so that the winner must be determined in the last series of events.

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Because considering that Ducati has also not won the world championship through their riders after the first time in 2007 together with Casey Stoner from Australia. Likewise with the riders from Italy where it has been a long time since Valentino Rossi was last world champion in MotoGP and now Francesco Bagnaia has brought the fragrance back to Italy together with the Italian factory bike.
In addition, Francesco (Pecco) Bagnaia became the first rider to become world champion from the Valentino Rossi VR|46 academy from several other racers. Valentino Rossi's dream to give birth to a world champion from VR|46 has come true through Pecco.
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Bagnaia is the winner!
He did not fail this one opportunity he got.

Quartararo is a better driver IMHO but he can't ride in the rain.

The next year we will back to Marquez dominance.

The overall package of Bagnaia and Ducati was simply better than Yamaha and Fabio, next year with the new line-up I see the Ducati factory team being the strongest team next year. Yamaha also seem to have made progress with the engine, so next season will be exciting.

Honda and Marquez I don't see good enough to fight for the title, podiums and wins yes. Titles no.
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Bagnaia is the winner!
He did not fail this one opportunity he got.

Quartararo is a better driver IMHO but he can't ride in the rain.

The next year we will back to Marquez dominance.
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While there are only two races left I see only one competition which is worth following in the remaining time of the season. It is between Perez and Leclerc for the second spot in the driver standings. After a solid race by Perez and Ferrari's struggles in the last race, Perez has got ahead of Leclerc by 5 points again. This rivalry is still fired up a lot and everything can change by every race remaining.

Ferrari should work out their problem in the last race and be ready for the Brazil GP. I know that they are already focused on next season's car. However they should at least be able to give a proper working car for Leclerc in the remaining races. Maybe it isn't like the championship but it would definitely be more satisfying for Leclerc to finish the season right behind Verstappen.
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@CLS63 you’re absolutely correct and Hamilton could have broken that record, but the officials stole his victory in the final race in a controversial fashion and sadly there’s nothing that can be done about it now. Furthermore I believe that Max will not only break that record, but he’ll create a new record which won’t be broken for a very long time.
I still do not think that it was a "steal", it could have gone either way, just because of "one lap" that decided it and there may or may not be a wrong decision there, doesn't mean stealing. Stealing is something much bigger, Max went in the last race with literally the same points, Max kept up within 10 seconds or so if I am not wrong, say 20 seconds at worst, and even another regular crash with all right decisions, Max could have won it as well.

Having the title decided on the very last lap means Max deserved it as much as Hamilton. Of course Hamilton deserved it too, nobody can deny that, but that doesn't make Max not deserving neither. It was equally theirs, and I would literally see them share a title to be fair, and would be the first one but totally makes sense to give them bot the title looking at last year.
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Congratulations to Francesco Bagnaia who has succeeded in becoming the MotoGP world champion this season (2022) with the factory Ducati. And congratulations also to the Ducati manufacturer who this season has managed to win three titles at once (Team World Champion, Constructors World Champion and Rider World Champion).

Because considering that Ducati has also not won the world championship through their riders after the first time in 2007 together with Casey Stoner from Australia. Likewise with the riders from Italy where it has been a long time since Valentino Rossi was last world champion in MotoGP and now Francesco Bagnaia has brought the fragrance back to Italy together with the Italian factory bike.
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finally Feco bagnaia became the 2022 MotoGP world champion even though finishing in 9th position was enough to ensure a world title for him,
feco play it safe is not trying to catch F Quantararo because he doesn't want to fail in the last race to make sure this year's MotoGP world title doesn't fail,
once again congratulations to Feco Bagnaia and ending the Italian rider's fast, after valentino Rosi in 2009
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Bagnaia very aggressive although he has so much to lose, madness. Fabio has to give it his all but Bagnaia will say he took the title home, very exciting but the chances of Fabio winning are not really there at the moment.

Bagnaia is just managing the race now that they are already more than half away and as they stand he will be World Champion,even if Fabio goes first it does not get 14 points more but chances are really low for him to go first.It is ending like it should and Bagnaia would be really really stupid if he would force his way trying to overtake the other riders,it can cost him the title and these last minutes of the race are critical and Bagnaia should not lose his calm.The one forced to overtake everyone ahead is Fabio but most probably he is hoping in a crash of Bagnaia rather than go all in.I think no surprises till the end of the race and Bagnaia will be Champion.
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Bagnaia very aggressive although he has so much to lose, madness. Fabio has to give it his all but Bagnaia will say he took the title home, very exciting but the chances of Fabio winning are not really there at the moment.
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Bagnaia just need not crash or have one of his Ducati friends win the race.

If he fails, he will fail maybe the only shot he got in his live.

What he needs to do is just to race safely and finish on top 14 which should not be a hard task to do for him. He should not relying on Fabio to not win the race but he should grab the championship himself by doing his best in the last race to prove that he is a real champion. Pressure is on Fabio's side as he needs to win the race + hoping Pecco to finish out of top 14. Well, even though the chance for Fabio is so small but we do not know what will happen in the last race.
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Verstappen has apparently broken all records that can be broken. Particularly handsome, if you look at how long he has only been driving in F1 now. I don't think there is a greater talent than him out there right now. Drivers like Leclerc are also extremely talented, but they don't come close to Verstappen. And that goes for everything else too. I think next year we will have a pretty boring championship like this again, if I have heard correctly Verstappen has won the race no less than 13 times this season. That's unimaginable, and we're not even at the end yet. I don't think this record will be equaled for the time being, or it must be that Verstappen will be able to personally drive that record out of the books next year. It's a shame we don't have Schumacher in F1 anymore, I would have liked to see how the battle would be with him and Verstappen.

Actually Verstappen hasn't broken all of them yet.  Grin

The most important record is still waiting for being broken by him in the future. I mean the total championship count. Hamilton and Schumacher are sharing the record by 7 titles for now. And Hamilton still has a chance to improve the record until retiring as well. Verstappen is still a very young driver and I believe we will watch him in F1 for a very long time period. I don't think he will be a driver like Raikkonen for example. He actually seemed to be like that after his statement about being ambitious for titles first. But his current performance shows clearly that he would go for breaking the record I mentioned as well.

Considering the years ahead of him it isn't too difficult for him to do it.

@CLS63 you’re absolutely correct and Hamilton could have broken that record, but the officials stole his victory in the final race in a controversial fashion and sadly there’s nothing that can be done about it now. Furthermore I believe that Max will not only break that record, but he’ll create a new record which won’t be broken for a very long time.
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Valencia will be the last race of the season and Ricardo Tormo will be the circuit to determine the MotoGP world champion between Francesco Bagnaia and Fabio Quartararo.
The difference in points between Bagnaia and Quartararo is 23 points. This means that Bagnaia cannot fail to finish. If Francesco Bagnaia who will start from number 8 falls and Fabio Quartararo who starts from number 4 succeeds on the 1st podium, then Bagnaia's hopes for world champions fail.

Can Francesco (Pecco) Bagnaia bring success to Ducati?

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Verstappen has apparently broken all records that can be broken. Particularly handsome, if you look at how long he has only been driving in F1 now. I don't think there is a greater talent than him out there right now. Drivers like Leclerc are also extremely talented, but they don't come close to Verstappen. And that goes for everything else too. I think next year we will have a pretty boring championship like this again, if I have heard correctly Verstappen has won the race no less than 13 times this season. That's unimaginable, and we're not even at the end yet. I don't think this record will be equaled for the time being, or it must be that Verstappen will be able to personally drive that record out of the books next year. It's a shame we don't have Schumacher in F1 anymore, I would have liked to see how the battle would be with him and Verstappen.

Actually Verstappen hasn't broken all of them yet.  Grin

The most important record is still waiting for being broken by him in the future. I mean the total championship count. Hamilton and Schumacher are sharing the record by 7 titles for now. And Hamilton still has a chance to improve the record until retiring as well. Verstappen is still a very young driver and I believe we will watch him in F1 for a very long time period. I don't think he will be a driver like Raikkonen for example. He actually seemed to be like that after his statement about being ambitious for titles first. But his current performance shows clearly that he would go for breaking the record I mentioned as well.

Considering the years ahead of him it isn't too difficult for him to do it.
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1   Jorge Martin   SPA   Pramac Ducati (GP22)   1'29.621s   2/7   329k
2   Marc Marquez   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   +0.205s   7/9   326k
3   Jack Miller   AUS   Ducati Lenovo (GP22)   +0.213s   2/7   329k
4   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.279s   8/9   324k
5   Alex Rins   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   +0.319s   2/7   329k
6   Maverick Viñales   SPA   Aprilia Racing (RS-GP)   +0.334s   4/8   326k
7   Brad Binder   RSA   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   +0.418s   6/8   327k
8   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Ducati Lenovo (GP22)   +0.428s   6/8   331k
9   Johann Zarco   FRA   Pramac Ducati (GP22)   +0.481s   6/7   326k
10   Aleix Espargaro   SPA   Aprilia Racing (RS-GP)   +0.503s   7/9   326k
11   Luca Marini   ITA   Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22)   +0.522s   6/8   327k
12   Joan Mir   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   +0.620s   4/9   326k
    Qualifying 1:                   
13   Enea Bastianini   ITA   Gresini Ducati (GP21)   1'30.193s   6/6   327k
14   Miguel Oliveira   POR   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   1'30.236s   7/8   323k
15   Alex Marquez   SPA   LCR Honda (RC213V)   1'30.453s   6/7   324k
16   Franco Morbidelli   ITA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   1'30.504s   8/9   323k
17   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   WithU Yamaha RNF (YZR-M1)   1'30.548s   7/8   323k
18   Marco Bezzecchi   ITA   Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP21)*   1'30.588s   6/8   326k
19   Fabio Di Giannantonio   ITA   Gresini Ducati (GP21)*   1'30.695s   6/8   327k
20   Remy Gardner   AUS   KTM Tech3 (RC16)*   1'30.804s   7/9   323k
21   Takaaki Nakagami   JPN   LCR Honda (RC213V)   1'30.83s   8/8   321k
22   Pol Espargaro   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   1'30.936s   3/5   326k
23   Raul Fernandez   SPA   KTM Tech3 (RC16)*   1'31.676s   7/8   323k
24   Darryn Binder   RSA   WithU Yamaha RNF (YZR-M1)*   1'31.989s   7/8   324k

Source: https://www.crash.net/motogp/results/1016418/1/valencia-motogp-ricardo-tormo-full-qualifying-results


Bagnaia just need not crash or have one of his Ducati friends win the race.

If he fails, he will fail maybe the only shot he got in his live.
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After today's free practices for the Moto GP, we have a not-so-fast Bagnaia and a faster Quartararo.

Keep in mind that the Ducati drivers need only 2 points to be champion, always if Quartararo wins and Ducati can even stop all their drivers to let him pass, he just need not crash  Grin

Even if Bagnaia is only 8th on the grid, it will be almost impossible for Fabio to win tomorrow, passing Martin and Marc will be almost impossible. Bagnaia will try not to drop out and just want to finish in the points.

Ducati will pay a bonus for the riders who finish ahead of Fabio on a Ducati 🤣🤣
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After today's free practices for the Moto GP, we have a not-so-fast Bagnaia and a faster Quartararo.

Keep in mind that the Ducati drivers need only 2 points to be champion, always if Quartararo wins and Ducati can even stop all their drivers to let him pass, he just need not crash  Grin
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Verstappen has apparently broken all records that can be broken. Particularly handsome, if you look at how long he has only been driving in F1 now. I don't think there is a greater talent than him out there right now. Drivers like Leclerc are also extremely talented, but they don't come close to Verstappen. And that goes for everything else too. I think next year we will have a pretty boring championship like this again, if I have heard correctly Verstappen has won the race no less than 13 times this season. That's unimaginable, and we're not even at the end yet. I don't think this record will be equaled for the time being, or it must be that Verstappen will be able to personally drive that record out of the books next year. It's a shame we don't have Schumacher in F1 anymore, I would have liked to see how the battle would be with him and Verstappen.
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Haas has still not decided on the second driver of the following year.

Today they released an interview and said the spot would be 50 / 50 between Schumacher and Hulkeberg.

Steiner spoke too and he said the fine done to RBR is ridiculous and they will not penalize them at all.

So he quit on his idea to get Ricciardo if Daniel wanted to come,just some weeks ago Steiner said that I am not pressuring Daniel to come to Haas but that he would welcome him if decided to come to Haas.Now I see that it is going to be 50/50 between young Schumi and Hulkenberg and from these two honestly the better driver we all know who is,Hulkenberg in my opinion because of a much better experience in F1 so far while Schumi will have his time to improve and bring some quality racing.
I think Daniel will go towards reserve driver for Mercedes kind of role with the hopes that Hamilton would retire in a few years and he could take the spot for a few years and actually win something in a big team.

But, by the looks of it that’s not going to happen because there is a chance Hamilton may race as much as 5 seasons more, and that’s not really an easy thing to wait for, and Daniel is not young enough to wait 5 more seasons, if it was just 1-2 that would make sense. As much as I really hate to say this, but there is a huge chance that Danial Ricciardio will be out of the league after this year, lower level teams shown no interest, and higher level ones already have their team :/.
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Besides MotoGP, tomorrow the Moto2 class will also be very interesting to watch because there are two riders who are also competing for the Moto2 world champion this season, they are Ai Ogura from the Idemitsu team and Agusto Fernandez from the KTM team.

The interesting thing is that the point difference between the two is not that far, which is around 9.5 points for Ai Ogura who is in second place in the standings. And obviously tomorrow these two riders will try to get the win because Ogura needs to win to make sure the world champion if Fernandez doesn't get the podium tomorrow, but if Fernandez gets the podium, then the world champion will be Fernandez
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Haas has still not decided on the second driver of the following year.

Today they released an interview and said the spot would be 50 / 50 between Schumacher and Hulkeberg.

Steiner spoke too and he said the fine done to RBR is ridiculous and they will not penalize them at all.

So he quit on his idea to get Ricciardo if Daniel wanted to come,just some weeks ago Steiner said that I am not pressuring Daniel to come to Haas but that he would welcome him if decided to come to Haas.Now I see that it is going to be 50/50 between young Schumi and Hulkenberg and from these two honestly the better driver we all know who is,Hulkenberg in my opinion because of a much better experience in F1 so far while Schumi will have his time to improve and bring some quality racing.
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