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I'm saying something a little different from what you think, because what you're saying is what everyone is thinking right now, including myself. And one more thing is, Bagnaia doesn't need to finish in 13th place if she wants to become world champion this season, but it is enough to finish 14th to become world champion even though Quartararo finished first. Because when the number of points is the same, then the leader of the standings will still be the world champion, especially in terms of the number of wins this season is also more on Bagnaia's side.

But in this case I just want to say about the competition that Quartararo has so far provided with the weakest bike on the MotoGP grid. If Quartararo hadn't crashed in Assen, Aragon, Australia and had failed to score one point in Thailand during a wet race, then the story would have been a little different even though Bagnaia would have also become world champion this season. But the competition will be much fiercer and it won't look easy for either of them, because this season no rider from another manufacturer can compete until the end like Bagnaia and Quartararo did.

The GP of China 2023 can be deleted again for their strict rules against COVID.

While the world basically opened everything they are still pretty close.

Source: https://www.formulapassion.it/motorsport/formula-1/gp-cina-cancellazione-calendario-2023-638344.html

So the Yamaha has been very weak for a few years now and by stopping the engine development Yamaha was even more handicapped, the engine is the weakest in the whole field and everybody knows that, I think it's cheap to talk about aerodynamics. Just because Fabio can ride over 100%, but not over the whole season, all Yamaha riders except Fabio are at the bottom of the field. So there is very little excuse for Yamaha they just slept a lot and rested on one rider's form, seems familiar from Honda....

Mexican GP is another beautiful track that we are going to enjoy during night again for us Europeans I mean.I agree that chances of Perez are extremely low and that Verstappen has not any intention to help his friend gets the second place while all he is concerned right now is getting at least one victory from the remaining races to get his name in the history of F1 as the only man with 14 wins during a single season,he is now equally sharing 13 wins with Schumi and Vettel.

Based on this I doubt Perez will get any help in his home GP,he is all on his own.He needs to find the courage to drive ambitiously like Verstappen does,I have seen Perez lose the concentration from many races now and I doubt his home GP will be any different.

It wouldn't be easy for Perez to get the win here.

Verstappen is the latest winner in this Grand Prix and Perez completed that race as the 3rd. Hamilton was right between them and Mercedes were having their good days. But now things are a little more different. Perez has an advantage as Red Bull is much faster than them now. But on the other hand the last race wasn't very good for Perez. He finished it behind Leclerc and Hamilton both. Besides even Verstappen is still racing very ambitiously despite announcing his title. In the circumstances, it is quite difficult for Perez to get the win here. But he can at least be on the podium.

Yamaha has revealed two of its weaknesses in this 2022 season. Lin Jarvis as Managing Director of Yamaha MotoGP said about this to Speedweek.com that they really paid attention to a number of strengths and weaknesses in the Yamaha YZR-M1 for this year so that Yamaha itself has also brought in top technician (Luca) Marmorini (electronic system engineer who has worked for the Toyota F1 and Scuderia Ferrari teams).

And on the other hand Lin Jarvis also explained that the cause of the large performance gap between the Yamaha YZR-M1 and the Ducati Desmosedici GP22 in this MotoGP season was because Yamaha did not have enough time and energy to make better aerodynamics, so they are currently doing a series of tests in wind tunnels in Europe and claims to be making progress. Source: motorsport.com

After the points were awarded to Alonso because of an appeal from Haas, which I find ridiculous because of the mirror and the resulting penalty. A funny photo found on the internet after the crash at the last Grand Prix.



So the safety way for Alonso 🤣🤣

It's not the main factor I think because Quartararo must be riding hard to be no.1 on Valencia which I think like mission impossible to champion for this year. he is so burdened, while Bagnaia, just doesn't need to crash to be the champions, Bagnaia only needs to finish at 13th, whatever the result even Quartararo on 1st. So, I have no doubt Ducati, especially Bagnaia been a champion since in Sepang.

@tokeweed even I’m kinda surprised that Max won, and it seems that he’s yet hungry to win more races and further it’s clear that he won’t let his opponent’s win even a single race. Furthermore I expect Max to once again be competitive, and besides him I feel that Hamilton can win the Mexican GP and Ferrari as usual will be happy to just race and won’t win this race too.

Here are the results for completeness' sake.  I didn't watch the race tbh.  Lol.  Felt like Ferrari could win it as Verstappen could be on a mental holiday but no...  He's still into it and wants to win the rest of the races.    Greedy mother fker.

2022 F1 United States GP Race Results

1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   56 Laps
2   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   + 5.023s
3   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   + 7.501s
4   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   + 8.293s
5   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   + 44.815s
6   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   + 53.785s
7   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   + 65.354s
8   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   + 65.834s
9   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    + 70.919s
10   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   + 72.875s
11   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   + 75.057s
12   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   + 76.164s
13   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   + 81.763s
14   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   + 84.490s
15   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   + 85.078s
16   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   + 90.487s
17   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   + 1:03.588s
    Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   DNF
    Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   DNF
    Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   DNF

Mexican GP this weekend guys.  Perez prolly gets the win here?

2022 F1 Mexican GP Schedule

Friday 28 October   Practice 1   13:00-14:00
Friday 28 October   Practice 2   16:00-17:30
Saturday 29 October   Practice 3   12:00-13:00
Saturday 29 October   Qualifying   15:00-16:00
Sunday 30 October   Race   20:00  14:00

However when Redbull and Ferrari have reported their rivals I rarely remember anything done by the stewards,in 99.99% of the cases they let the race run while only in the race of this weekend they decided to give a penalty after the race because Haas which by the way is a US team asked for such sanctioning,this says a lot about the full scale level of corruption in the FIA nowadays and they do not care much about the sport unfortunately.

Anyway this is just an incident with teams not fighting for the title as I am sure FIA would have done nothing if this happened between 1st and 2nd driver fighting for victory.

My prediction is that Valencia will be a difficult race for Fabio Quartararo, because there are two sectors of the Valencia circuit that can be utilized by all Ducati riders, especially young riders who are still hungry for victory like Marco Bezzecchi who during yesterday's race in Malaysia had beaten Marc Marquez. This makes Fabio Quartararo have to fight even harder because he is the only one at Yamaha who is able to perform well and this is clearly different from the riders at Ducati who on average can perform better than Fabio Di Giannantonio.

What I admire from Fabio Quartararo is that he is able to bring the notoriously weak Yamaha motorcycle to compete with Ducati, which is clearly known to be fast in almost all MotoGP circuits. This shows that Fabio Quartararo has a talent that is different from other riders, because if a rider like Francesco Bagnaia can win the world with a strong bike like Ducati, plus more input from his teachers Valentino Rossi and Casey Stoner while in Australia. I think it's only natural for Francesco Bagnaia to be world champion this year because Francesco Bagnaia already has more support to become world champion than Fabio Quartararo who is fighting alone.

Well, Haas protest is kinda understandable. In past stewards several times told for Magnussen tha he have to make pit stop because his car is damaged. So, new Haas is salty and looking for consistency in stewards decisions. And offcourse, for Haas every points matters now, they're fighting with Alpha Tauri for 8th place.
I wouldn't call it small team mentality. We have seen big teams like Ferrari or Red Bull reporting their rival to stewards.

I believe that Sainz could have been a podium one if he didn't got hit. Vettel was another one that I felt so sorry for, dude was at the front when he got in, and was like 13th or something when he got out, all because of bad pit he had, he could have been fighting for a podium too. Hamilton wasn't just in a slower car, but he was also in hard tires versus Max being on medium tires, which creates a good amount of difference, plus add Max being crazy and nearly crashing just to underbreak and take the lead, and it's really hard to keep him at bay. It was a good race to watch, definitely plenty of things to watch and see which was what viewers wanted to begin with.

It seemed to be a boring race first but I really started to enjoy the race after one point. The start was really unlucky for Sainz. He was hit by Russell from the left side of his car and he couldn't continue racing after entering pit. It was a big hit to Ferrari at the beginning already as well. But Leclerc still did a good job I think. Of course Tifosis would have liked to see him getting past Hamilton also at least but Hamilton was faster than him in this race.

When it comes to Hamilton this was really like the race that he was the closest to a win. Red Bull's terrible pit gave a chance to Hamilton to take the win. But Hamilton was just the victim of having a slower car and he was overtaken by Verstappen at one point. They were on limits about penalties too. Both of them got their last warnings after this overtake and a possible mistake would have cost big for Verstappen especially. But he completed the race cleanly and brought the constructors' championship to his team. 

Following the excitement of the Malaysian MotoGP yesterday, where Francesco Bagnaia and Fabio Quartararo shared the podium at Sepang in close quarters. Francesco Bagnaia and Fabio Quartararo are finally ready to face the real final at the Valencia MotoGP and will compete for the 2022 MotoGP title.

Bagnaia is undoubtedly in a better position heading into the final draw on November 6 in Valencia with 258 points. However, Quartararo who collects 235 points cannot be underestimated because he will fight hard to defend the world title he won last year.

Valencia has been a Ducati track for the last few years, except for Marc Marquez, and Yamaha have always struggled there, so the cards are clearly in Bagnaia's favour, even if he crashes, which I don't think he will, it will be very difficult for Fabio to win there. Martin and Bastianini are also candidates to win in Valencia. It will also be very difficult for Fabio if Bagnaia crashes, which I don't think he do, he will drive safe in the TOP 10 i think.

I think what makes Verstappen so successful is that he just minds his own business. He doesn't constantly spy on his opponents like Hamilton. He is very in control of his vehicle. If something goes wrong, he's dealing with his own team instead of dealing with other teams. If he goes with this character, it seems like he will upset many records. He turned 3rd from the pit and won another race, making it seem like it was a very simple thing, beating his two most important opponents. Double world champion. Thus he surpassed Alonso in total. The strongest pilot of the track with an iron will. The man is leaving the pit, which should take 2-3 seconds, because of the pit wall, he complains with only one radio call and sits down again after 2 laps. And it seems like he will continue like this for a long time, if things go ok with his team.

That shows that FIA management does not give a slight f*ck about the rules and they interpret everything as they see fit dictated by I don't know which benefit.The Haas has the right to protest but by getting points for doing such things shows how small of a team they are.

Most probably this decision with pass on without much fuss as the Championship is already set and no team is really interested to know on which motivation such decision was taken,well except Haas maybe.

Alonso received 10 second stop and go penalty few hours after race, which was converted into 30 seconds time penalty and it means that Alonso didn't got points. Haas made protest that Alpine car is in unsafe condition to race without that mirror.
Hate such decision. If car was really unsafe to race, why they didn't show black and orange flag for Alonso during the race?