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Look the idea is simple, last year when they gave the championship to Max, that was a very bad move that was not liked by anyone aside from Max fans, but it has been done, and we have past another whole season and know the champion of the season after that, I feel like it was very quick, like I can remember the championship of last year just like yesterday, it’s weird feeling that it has been nearly a year since that day, but it’s true, we have another seasons champion already.

So, going back and saying "no Hamilton got it" would be very tough deal and I do not think that it would be possible anymore, the bad decision was already given, "fixing" it would look even worse.

He made the right call to be rational rather than go all in like a racer would do.I think now that only two races are left and to have 14 points of advantage is a huge advantage for him as it is a sure thing that he will fight until the last race for the title even if he God forbid crashes in the upcoming race and Quartararo wins it,they would go with 11 points difference to the last race.

I think that Bagnaia based on his performance during all the season deserve more than anyone else to win the MotoGP this year.Most likely he will win it if he manages to be rational again and does not rush in hunt for points which can cost him the race.

I'm also watching the replay of the race, so Bagnaia was going for the win but not at any price the points are just more important than the win at any price, Bagnaia did everything right I would say. With Fabio's retirement, Bagnaia did everything right.

In terms of risk, the third position for Bagnaia is indeed very good because he must always consider the points and continue to be on the podium, because on this day Quartararo also made a fatal mistake by going off the track and slipping backwards which in the end crashed. It's really very sad for Quartararo because he didn't have a high consistency in this race.


Bagnaia no longer has such heavy pressure to achieve his goals this season, so Bagnaia just needs consistency on the podium to get to the world title faster this season.
Next week MotoGp will be at the Sepang circuit in Malaysia and Bagnaia should be able to get as many points as possible so Bagnaia can relax a bit in the closing race in Valencia for this season.

And one more thing that I saw was, Bagnaia did not overtake excessively, except when there was a possible gap, so Bagnaia also had time to lead the race.
Although in the end had to settle for third place and it is very good to stay on the path of the championship competition this season.

Very important points for Bagnaia today, even if he only came 3rd in the battle at the end, the points are very important and he is now ahead of Fabio. Fabio's loss is very bad for the world championship fight. Bagnaia is better off as third than he would have risked more to get first and might have dropped out.

It has been such a dominant season by Verstappen and Red Bull. FIA's actions are overshadowing their successes of course but there is nothing to do about this unfortunately. I just hope to watch a season without scandals next time. Budget exceeding is the scandal of the year this time and the punishment is about to be only a fine.

Mercedes also have plans to do the same if Red Bull get a "punishment" like this. I wonder if FIA's decision will be the same for Mercedes as well.    I really don't trust them anymore and it wouldn't make me surprised if they decide upon a different punishment for a different team. They really have a potential to surprise people very often.

You know what would be the perfect "FIA did it again move"? I think that it would make sense for them to want more competition isn't it? Last year's deal where the winner was decided on literally the last lap was something awesome for their viewership. I do not know the ratings or how much money they made, but that must have been one of the most watched races of all time, at least up there somewhere.

This means we are talking about something that is a big chance again, how? Well, Red bull could get points deduction, and Max could get it as well, how much? They would get it enough to make it a tough challenge between Max and Charles, that would work out for them for the good.

Olivera got a 3 positions penalty this is the updated starting grid, he was on the back anyway.

1   Jorge Martin   SPA   Pramac Ducati (GP22)   1'27.767s   6/8   355k
2   Marc Marquez   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   +0.013s   6/7   346k
3   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Ducati Lenovo (GP22)   +0.186s   7/8   352k
4   Aleix Espargaro   SPA   Aprilia Racing (RS-GP)   +0.190s   6/8   347k
5   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.206s   7/8   347k
6   Johann Zarco   FRA   Pramac Ducati (GP22)   +0.240s   6/8   351k
7   Luca Marini   ITA   Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22)   +0.262s   7/8   351k
8   Jack Miller   AUS   Ducati Lenovo (GP22)   +0.349s   7/8   353k
9   Marco Bezzecchi   ITA   Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP21)*   +0.418s   2/8   352k
10   Alex Rins   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   +0.774s   6/7   348k
11   Alex Marquez   SPA   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +0.966s   6/8   348k
12   Maverick Viñales   SPA   Aprilia Racing (RS-GP)   +0.998s   2/7   348k
    Qualifying 1:                   
13   Pol Espargaro   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   1'28.392s   6/6   344k
14   Joan Mir   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1'28.492s   6/6   347k
15   Enea Bastianini   ITA   Gresini Ducati (GP21)   1'28.647s   3/7   352k
16   Brad Binder   RSA   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   1'28.652s   6/7   344k
17   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   WithU Yamaha RNF (YZR-M1)   1'28.677s   5/6   345k
18   Darryn Binder   RSA   WithU Yamaha RNF (YZR-M1)*   1'28.76s   6/7   346k
19   Remy Gardner   AUS   KTM Tech3 (RC16)*   1'28.82s   6/7   344k
20   Fabio Di Giannantonio   ITA   Gresini Ducati (GP21)*   1'28.83s   6/7   348k
   Miguel Oliveira   POR   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   1'28.859s   6/7   341k
21   Raul Fernandez   SPA   KTM Tech3 (RC16)*   1'28.966s   6/8   343k
22   Franco Morbidelli   ITA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   1'29.146s   6/7   346k
23   Miguel Oliveira   POR   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   1'28.859s   6/7   341k
24   Tetsuta Nagashima   JPN   LCR Honda (RC213V)   1'29.624s   2/9   345k

Source: https://www.crash.net/motogp/results/1014619/1/australian-motogp-phillip-island-full-qualifying-results

Bagnaia is in a very good position for tomorrow and Alex is not to be written off, even if it will be very difficult for him to fight for the championship. But it's good for us spectators to see the 3 world championship leaders in the two starting rows. I'm looking forward to the race and whether there can be a preliminary decision tomorrow?

The drivers made the game unique with their techniques,but the game was not same when the car conditions was not good.So constructor of the car also place a huge role in the game of race.The money he spend more on car,the car condition will increase more to the maximum level.The engineering team will make a huge difference in the performance of the car with their technology and techniques.But they implemented the technology based on the budget allotted for the car.They can’t spend their money for the updating of car performance.

Jorge Martin of the Pramac Racing team managed to set a new all-time lap record in the Australian MotoGP qualifying and has already broken Jorge Lorenzo's record time of 9 years ago. And Marquez managed to occupy the second position after getting towing from Bagnaia who will be in third position for tomorrow.

This is very amazing because Australia has a good atmosphere and very beautiful scenery on the beach and always presents a fierce battle on the circuit, as seen in tomorrow's starting grid where for the 3rd, 4th and 5th place is occupied by the world title fighters this season.

Redbull are already Champions for this year in both constructors and drivers Championships.This season is closed and we can say anything we like but it won't change anything,this season was won in the tracks where they dominated,don't know if the other teams would be so competitive even if they spend more money than the cap,first of all is the engineering team that creates a perfect car or if it is not perfect it is still up to them to fix issues one by one and at the engineering Redbull excelled this time.

For next year I don't think to spend over cap will be needed as 80% of all teams have started early their car preparation for the 2023 season so I expect a very strong season in the next one.

This is the situation exactly. Red Bull have fixed everything thanks to spending more money than they are allowed. The other teams must be really regretful for not doing the same because it is only a fine for the punishment nothing more than that. I bet there will be some teams doing the same next season. I will be looking forward to seeing FIA's decision about them as well.

If they don't make the same decision as the one they will make for Red Bull then we will be sure of FIA's goal. If they apply the same rules to every team without any problem then I won't think about them as partial at least for now. But this still doesn't change the fact that Red Bull have benefited from many failures by FIA in this season.

Until they start losing money, or at least not profiting as much as they do right now. I can sort of understand Red Bull decision, they are the best team right now and to just stop them or take back their trophy would be very tough decision and would be very much going against the tide, they like keeping the winners winning, aka mercedes situation, it gives people something to cheer for.

However, with Netflix series and all, they have managed to actually gain so much expertise that I am not really seeing them losing profits at all, they keep making more and more money, which means there is no doubt in my mind that they will keep doing what they are doing.

The Formula 1 championship this year is quite paradoxical, because everyone was looking forward to the fact that with the change of technical regulations we would get a lot of competition in the fight for the championship title, but as a result we got something different when the same driver won the title for a huge advantage for the second year in a row. And if last year there was an acute struggle until the very finish of the championship, until the very last stage, until the very last lap, now everything was already clear to absolutely everyone in the middle of the season, just some were afraid to admit it to themselves and waited in vain for the revival of intrigue.

Easy to fix your problem if you ignore the budget cap and find solutions to your problems with extra money while at the same time your opponents remain within the cap, not only they need to fix the problems of the car but also they need to push even more to the limit because you are cheating.

We all asked the same for our driver that we fancy to be in the same car as Hamilton when Mercedes was winning races yet Mercedes immediately chose Bottas after Rosberg left to not give headaches to Hamilton anymore because when Rosberg was there the battle was fierce and he won a Championship in F1,with polemics but he won it.
For this Max was a great guy he never aspired being a Mercedes driver and continued with Redbull,now he is only collecting what he saw for his career by staying at Redbull.

So we can't make such comparisons,what we should expect is the team to give Leclerc a winning car like this year but much more reliable than the car of this year and also the same to be brought by some other teams,this will give great emotions to the F1 season.

I believe that Leclerc has a really huge potential to perform much better than this. It's just Ferrari screwing things up most of the time. I'm indicating it as "mostly" because Leclerc also makes some mistakes from time to time. He is admitting his mistakes when he does also which is a really professional move by him. But Ferrari should be able to give him a proper car next season.

They had big hopes at the beginning because they had the fastest car on the grid. Red Bull were struggling with big problems like durability. Verstappen and Perez both had bad days then. However Red Bull still managed to fix things very quickly. This time Ferrari had the same problems but the thing was that they weren't capable of solving them. After Leclerc captured a big advantage over Verstappen he was suddenly way behind him. Leclerc deserves a fair fight for the title so I hope Ferrari return better than this.

We can't be sure.

He is one of the strongest for sure, but I wanna see Charles or Lewis with the same car make the call 1st.
For sure he has more experience than Leclerc, he is on f1 already for 7 years now even though he is still very young.

I think Charles is better than Max on qualifying, for the race he has not have the experience.

He is the most talented name among active pilots, who is only 25 years old but he is much more matured than his age. Moreover, he wasn't even a bit mature until 2 years ago. Currently, he is reckless but passionate and drives flawlessly. An incredible man. One of the biggest factors in this is that he clashed with a giant who became world champion 7 times last year..

I'm a person who thinks that max's pure piloting skills are superior to everyone else with Fernando. The multi championships of lewis were just like this year's championship of verstappen. The car was always important in formula1. It was important 50 years ago and it will be important 50 years from now. Tired of hearing the argument that attributes his success only to the car.

When his career is over, if he doesn't spend many years in a non-competitive car like Alonso, he will become a champion many times. It will go down in f1 history as an icon.