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I agree with Ferrari this time,they did the best choice for Sainz,sure he would have been second as he would have passed also Hamilton with the pace he had but I am sure he would have had a puncture if he kept racing at that pace or if he would not get the pace the tire would degrade surely in the last 10 laps and everybody else would have surpassed him again.So Ferrari did for once the right call with Sainz,they even got the fastest lap of the race.

Leclerc made the mistake exactly where he needed the most not to do it,now Verstappen 62 points ahead and when Leclerc loses Verstappen extend the gap with minimum of 15-25 points,when Verstappen loses Leclerc closes the distance by just 6-12 points and this says a lot for the title fight.I agree that in 10 races is almost impossible to close the gap by 62 points unless bad things happen to Verstappen.

Solid race from Sainz and a dumb mistake from Lecler, today Max probably won the title.


About the pit stop, was for safety.

In other words, if they didn't make a pitstop and the tires exploded what would you have said?

The Ferrari pit wall is a joke.  I mean seriously...



Edit: 

Had an another mechanical issue and Leclerc got spinned and got out of the race while he was in a comfortable first position. What a bad luck for him. Meanwhile Sainz climbed from last place to fourth, just passed Russell now. But he got a 5 second time penalty from dangerous pit exit.
Lewis Hamilton is going good in his 300th race. He has a really good chance to see another podium.

There it is...  Another throttle pedal issue for Leclerc according to the radio.  You can really feel his pain.  He doesn't deserve this.



More memes from Formula Dank.

Leclerc got a really nice pole position by deserving it all the way. If Verstappen didn't mess up in the final moments then maybe he could have got it. I expect a really tough rivalry between them in the race tomorrow. Leclerc is still my favourite for this race but it is all about tactics in the end. I don't trust Ferrari completely about this and I hope that they don't mess it up. They did a good job in the Austria GP actually and I will be expecting to see the same again.

It is sort of gambling in any case. I mean Man City beats lower level teams at all times and yet you still gamble on that game right? People mainly gamble on City and that is what matters. For example, if you had a brand new amazing F1 car, and then like some beetle from 60's, that would still be a wager, it's still gambling because even though we most likely know the result, we are not going to end up with 100% result until it's over.

What if f1 car gets issues and stops? Then the beetle would win. This is how you end up wagering on anything outside of Ferrari or red bull. For example I like to gamble on Aston Martin or Williams getting a point, that really is a big wager .

Another pole victory by Leclerc, with a good help of Sainz. One more race we will see Ferrari start first and RB will follow. If Verstappen couldn't pass Leclerc at the start I give Rari a very good chance to win the race.
Sainz have to do a lot of work to climb up tomorrow. Even though if it's not the podium I believe he'll move up to a good position to get some points.

Yup Sainz was in a brilliant state today.

For tomorrow we can be expecting an exciting race for him, according to sky sports, with these cars should be not so hard overtaking in this track, so he can do a huge "remuntada" and if a Safety car will come...

In this track is difficult to overtake although we have seen a lot of overtaking last year.It means that for Sainz he needs to do really good at the start to not lose stream.He could have used the hard tires today as he knew he was going to get penalized so for tomorrow race he could have been a lot more helpful for Leclerc.He did great by offering slipstream to him and Leclerc got pole from 0.009 second distance with Verstapen to 0.30 and something.A lot of questions for tomorrow race but I am a lot worried about the reliability of Ferrari in such hot conditions,it is near 40 degree where I am and the same should be in France.

Ferrari today used Sainz very effectively. He wasn't fighting for any position today, so helped to Leclerc by making slipstream which gave significant help for Leclerc. It's likely that he would pole without help, but now it become even more confident.
Tomorrow weather is going to be even more hot. Interesting how tyres will work. Also, wouldn't be surprised if some drivers will have problems with overheating breaks and maybe some engines may fail in such conditions.

^  Close to impossible for a Ferrari 1 - 2 as Sainz is starting at the back of the grid now due to more parts replacements in his power unit.  What has become more interesting tho is Sainz to finish top 6 which he could do.  Anything more than 2.00 could be value imho.  The lines aren't up as of now.  It could take a couple more hours.

Ferrari is on another level. Today if they are reliable it would not be surprising if they are in the 1 and 2. I think there will only be one RB on the podium with that pace of the Ferraris. From my analysis, Perez has a chance of actually even winning. He must be careful of losing 3rd place and stay among the leaders and take care of the tires. In addition, I hope that Sainz is going to come back to position 4 or 5.

^  You know if Sainz had something to fight for in this qualifying I think he'd be getting the pole imho.  Sainz is faster than Leclerc at FP2, FP3 and during Q2 at qualifying.  It's too bad he'd be starting at the back of the grid no matter which spot he ended up with.

Anyway it's LEC - VER - PER.  The first 10 laps should be interesting with two Red Bull cars behind Leclerc's tail.  I feel like Verstappen will be in villain mode starting this weekend til the end of the season.

1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m31.727s   1m31.216s   1m30.872s
2   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m31.891s   1m31.990s   1m31.176s
3   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m32.354s   1m32.120s   1m31.335s
4   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m33.041s   1m32.274s   1m31.765s
5   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m32.672s   1m32.777s   1m32.032s
6   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m33.109s   1m32.633s   1m32.131s
7   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m32.819s   1m32.631s   1m32.552s
8   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m33.394s   1m32.836s   1m32.780s
9   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m32.297s   1m31.081s   No Time Set
10   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m32.756s   1m32.649s   No Time Set
11   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m33.404s   1m32.922s   
12   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m33.346s   1m33.048s   
13   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m33.034s   1m33.052s   
14   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m33.285s   1m33.276s   
15   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m33.423s   1m33.307s   
16   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m33.439s       
17   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m33.439s       
18   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m33.674s       
19   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m33.701s       
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m33.794s       

Pole position for Ferrari with a super team play from Sainz.

It will be a hot race


Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1008366/1/f1-2022-french-grand-prix-full-qualifying-results

Hamilton is getting better indeed and Russell are still keeping his general condition even though he got unlucky in the recent times. The qualifying session is going on right now and we are in Q2. While there are less than five minutes left for the end of it we see Hamilton at the 9th and Russell at the 12th positions. This is a bit alarming for them of course but they still have time to make a bigger effort to have higher positions. I don't expect any surprise honestly. We should be able to see both of them in Q3.

Is it just me, or are we seeing Lewis getting a bit better again? I mean Mercedes already had a "decent" car at the start of the season, they didn't started out like aston martin or something, they actually started as the third team directly. However, they seem to be seeing something changing these days, for the past 2 days its getting even more obvious, they are actually looking like getting in there. Meaning, we won't see just 1-2 ferrari red bull and whoever left from them at 3-4, somewhere in there would be Lewis or Russell in there somewhere between 1-4 and that would be a cool thing. I mean having a three good teams is always better, its definitely more entertaining that way.

I guess racing isn't all gambling. Ferrari and Red Bull are by far the best, and on a normal day there is no one who can come close to either team. Hamilton doesn't stand a chance either. That LeClerc or Verstappen will become world champion is 99.9%. And if that doesn't happen, then it's Perez or Sainz. I'm more curious with a view to next season what will happen to Mercedes and what Hamilton will do. Does it still want to drive this way if you're just filling? In the current state he is going to become world champion, and I don't see any significant changes taking place for the time being.

Considering the sessions so far I can say that Ferrari drivers have been in a much better condition. They have seemed a little stronger than Verstappen for example. It is important for Leclerc to turn this into an advantage in this race. It is a boring track first of all and I don't know how many nice overtakes we would be able to see. Hence winning the qualifying would play a big role for that driver. Leclerc has had a good momentum after the Austria GP and let's see if he will maintain it.

Even though we shouldn't see practice runs as anything important normally, it is still obvious that Red Bull and Ferrari will be the ones that will do better. The "funny" part is, this week Williams brought the new improvements on the new car to Latifi this week .

I think he will still be the last, at this point I feel like if they gave that seat to me or to you that wouldn't be something be shocking result, it is the same thing. I mean I would like to say that I would crash the car and can't drive it, but at the end of the day Latifi also crashes as well lol. As a big williams fan, it has been a very very tough few seasons for sure, but I am sure we will get back to being mid table soon.