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There's great news for @marcmarquez93 fans that @marcmarquez93 the 8-time World Champion is recovering well and we can't wait to see him back in the paddock when he's ready. Source: motogp

And on the motorsport.com website it is also explained that Marc Marquez has started the next stage of recovery from arm surgery and will start physiotherapy and cardio training, his Honda MotoGP team announced. The following is a confirmation and explanation from the doctor who handled @marcmarquez93

“In the medical examination carried out on Marc Marquez, six weeks after surgery on his right humerus, a good clinical and radiological evolution was confirmed which allowed progress in the program to restore mobility and strength of the right arm. The patient will undergo a new examination in the next six weeks,” said Dr Sanchez Sotelo.
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That's correct Honda itself needs to change the mindset, it's been fine for years building a bike that's only tailored to one rider and virtually no one else can handle it. Honda has to take itself by the nose, Marc is and will eventually not reach the fitness to steer and control the bike as he did before the accident. But Honda has a lot of work to do.
It is now very clear that there is a lot of work to be done and changed by Honda so that Honda needs a lot of time to change this and hopefully it will be better next season.
Because for this season it is no longer possible to change it and after all, every change must also follow the regulatory rules from Dorna so that any manufacturer can only do personal tests for now and in the future the number of tests will also be limited by Dorna.
The Honda team's dependence on Marc has now become a big loss for them after Marc could not make a big contribution again after suffering a serious injury, and it is likely that in the future Marc will also be the same because it is difficult for a rider to be able to return to his best form after a serious injury. even i say it is not possible.
but to replace someone who has been prioritized for a long time is very difficult it takes time for the team to recruit new drivers and adjust accordingly. but I have no doubt that the Honda team will be able to bounce back in the next few years, I believe in what the team is doing.
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That's correct Honda itself needs to change the mindset, it's been fine for years building a bike that's only tailored to one rider and virtually no one else can handle it. Honda has to take itself by the nose, Marc is and will eventually not reach the fitness to steer and control the bike as he did before the accident. But Honda has a lot of work to do.
It is now very clear that there is a lot of work to be done and changed by Honda so that Honda needs a lot of time to change this and hopefully it will be better next season.
Because for this season it is no longer possible to change it and after all, every change must also follow the regulatory rules from Dorna so that any manufacturer can only do personal tests for now and in the future the number of tests will also be limited by Dorna.
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Tsunoda got an ultimatum.
He has no more possible errors in his line.

The boss of Alpha Tauri chose the hard way, if Tsunoda will keep making mistakes during the season, he will be out from the team.


I think he is right, so far he has shown almost nothing for deserving a spot in F1.
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Honda “has to change way of thinking” to end MotoGP slump
Honda team boss Alberto Puig says the marque must “change our way of thinking” to end the current MotoGP slump it is enduring.

It's very sad for the Honda team in MotoGP at this time because Honda themselves have changed the shape of their bike in 2022 in order to increase traction at the rear, but are experiencing problems at the front and it has tortured their riders overall by not being able to reach very good results or just achieve results beyond the expectations of Honda.

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/honda-change-way-thinking-slump/10337023/

That's correct Honda itself needs to change the mindset, it's been fine for years building a bike that's only tailored to one rider and virtually no one else can handle it. Honda has to take itself by the nose, Marc is and will eventually not reach the fitness to steer and control the bike as he did before the accident. But Honda has a lot of work to do.
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Ferrari were still dealing with serious problems even though they were faster than Red Bull today. Sainz got rid of a disaster by getting out of his car in time. Leclerc was nearly DNF too if there were at least a few more laps to go. The team must solve their issues as quick as possible. We are in the middle of the season but they still haven't learned their lesson. Otherwise being the champions will stay as a dream for them. These problems will most probably cause Leclerc to end the season without being the champion as well.

Well i don't think it is that easy. I think they definitely know that they really need to improve their reliability of the whole car but especially of the power unit in order to have a chance to fight for the drivers championship and also for the constructors championship, but this is pretty hard to do. I am not a mechanical engineer but i would guess that it is way harder to fix reliability issue with your engine then to just try out new aerodynamic parts. First of all you have to find the cause of the problems which is already pretty complicated because a f1 engine is consists of so many parts and then you have to find a way to fix that problem. Ferrari is doing their best but it is a difficult task.

If I remember correctly they suffered from the same problem some years ago with Vettel when they had the fastest car but they lost the Championship to Mercedes because of reliability problems and for the bad luck of Vettel also because of him getting out of track by pushing the car beyond limits.The same is doing Leclerc and hence it was lucky he won because we were in such a short track that the race time was way below two hours.

We are going to France now and in this track if you have engine or pedal problems most probably you cannot end up winning the race like it happened in Austria.What I think is the design error of Ferrari is that they are trying to squeeze as much as possible speed from the engine and by doing so overlooking other parts which we saw cause problems like the Baku race.
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Ferrari were still dealing with serious problems even though they were faster than Red Bull today. Sainz got rid of a disaster by getting out of his car in time. Leclerc was nearly DNF too if there were at least a few more laps to go. The team must solve their issues as quick as possible. We are in the middle of the season but they still haven't learned their lesson. Otherwise being the champions will stay as a dream for them. These problems will most probably cause Leclerc to end the season without being the champion as well.

Well i don't think it is that easy. I think they definitely know that they really need to improve their reliability of the whole car but especially of the power unit in order to have a chance to fight for the drivers championship and also for the constructors championship, but this is pretty hard to do. I am not a mechanical engineer but i would guess that it is way harder to fix reliability issue with your engine then to just try out new aerodynamic parts. First of all you have to find the cause of the problems which is already pretty complicated because a f1 engine is consists of so many parts and then you have to find a way to fix that problem. Ferrari is doing their best but it is a difficult task.
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Honda “has to change way of thinking” to end MotoGP slump
Honda team boss Alberto Puig says the marque must “change our way of thinking” to end the current MotoGP slump it is enduring.

It's very sad for the Honda team in MotoGP at this time because Honda themselves have changed the shape of their bike in 2022 in order to increase traction at the rear, but are experiencing problems at the front and it has tortured their riders overall by not being able to reach very good results or just achieve results beyond the expectations of Honda.

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/honda-change-way-thinking-slump/10337023/
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1 second is all you need in this F1.

1 second is what you need to be able to use DRS and get an easier life with overtaking.

I agree, one second is a lot of time in Formula 1. This year and in the last few years, we have seen that RedBull has and had the most perfect pit stops in the last few years, and Ferrari has felt the bigger slip-ups, with Mercedes in the middle. A quick and well-timed pit stop can, for example, mean being in front of the competition at an undercut or falling behind the driver behind if there are problems.

RedBull had the fastest pit stop in F1 history with 1.82 seconds, 1.82 seconds you have to imagine, unfortunately the FIA introduced a new rule and stopped RedBull's extremely fast pit stops.

https://youtu.be/wsCriICZ-nA

https://autorevue.at/sport/schnellster-boxenstopp
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The fun thing is, Red Bull was so fast on pit stops for a while that F1 literally said under 2 seconds is a risk and teams should try to stay above that line. I mean not that it happens all the time, but we have seen them do it, and I do not remember too many other teams that does it.

And yes maybe 1 second in a race doesn't look that much different, but in pit stops that's the difference for acceleration and that makes at least 3-4 seconds difference since it's a stop and go. This is why I believe Red Bull still has a big advantage, I get that Austria didn't look that great to them, but next up, they will get back on the horse and win another race and show the world that that was just one time bad look.

1 second is all you need in this F1.

1 second is what you need to be able to use DRS and get an easier life with overtaking.
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The fun thing is, Red Bull was so fast on pit stops for a while that F1 literally said under 2 seconds is a risk and teams should try to stay above that line. I mean not that it happens all the time, but we have seen them do it, and I do not remember too many other teams that does it.

And yes maybe 1 second in a race doesn't look that much different, but in pit stops that's the difference for acceleration and that makes at least 3-4 seconds difference since it's a stop and go. This is why I believe Red Bull still has a big advantage, I get that Austria didn't look that great to them, but next up, they will get back on the horse and win another race and show the world that that was just one time bad look.
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^  But Ferrari looking good the last couple of races.  They're prolly getting their shit together now and start gaining points vs Red Bull in both driver's and constructor's championships...  And the next race is going to be in France too.  Leclerc should be a bit more motivated going into the race weekend.  The Alpines are something to watch too and the Haas.  

After 11 races, I gotta say that the team that disappointed me the most is Aston Martin.  It was a good consistent mid table team that started declining in terms of results even though huge sums of money came in when Lawrence Stroll took over.
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Funt stats about pit stops with new tires. (so far)
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Redbull is dominating here.

That's quite interesting. I know the time axis on the chart doesn't start at zero, so it's potentially a little misleading... however there are certainly a however a couple of things to note from that:

- Ferrari do seem to be wildly inconsistent compared to RB and Mercedes. On more than half of the tracks, they're on a par with or even better than RB, which is quite a surprise as I'd always thought RB were the undisputed best at quick pit stops. But then on other tracks, Ferrari are really slow and their stops take twice as long.

- At the two tracks where Ferrari struggled the most, one (but not the other) of their two main competitors also struggled.

I suppose there's only a few stops per team per track, so one bad stop can really skew the average, but it's still interesting.
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It doesn't seem that too many people on this forum like MotoGP. I see some of the posts above discussing F1. But it doesn't matter I'm quite informed even though I didn't really follow after the Michael Schumacer era.
It's not a problem that not too many people like MotoGP, but because there is nothing to discuss during this time off so most people just watch F1 while waiting for the second half of MotoGP to start and some people also don't follow MotoGP anymore after the era of Valentino Rossi, Stoner, Lorenzo and Pedrosa where they were so often referred to as the fantastic four in the past are no longer in MotoGP at this time.

Right here in the forum, MotoGP is not as popular as Formula 1, and MotoGP has just had its summer break, so the only thing you hear or see is how the MotoGP riders spend their holidays.
What I see is that some of the riders are enjoying their vacation and some of them have also got their weddings because considering this is the perfect time to take advantage of the summer break.

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I think Marc Marquez will never come back as strong as he once was, he overdid it right after the first crash and went to the limit again with the known consequences. He is still a very good rider and will win the one or other race but I don't think he will become world champion again.
The same. I also don't think that Marquez will fight for the world title again because it has started to be difficult for him and also he will be very difficult to win this season because his competitors now are young riders who are still very strong with their respective manufacturers.
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It doesn't seem that too many people on this forum like MotoGP. I see some of the posts above discussing F1. But it doesn't matter I'm quite informed even though I didn't really follow after the Michael Schumacer era.
I saw some sports news on TV that Marquez had already taken off his arm support. That seems to be good news, maybe Marquez wants to get back to racing soon. But they shouldn't have forced it anymore, Marquez should have healed completely. I think if he's forced it will ruin his tubu. He's been on the operating table a lot and it's a severe injury.
Although he returns later, maybe Marquez needs to study psychology so that he can save more and not put his life in danger too much. Next up is the Silverstone GP, England. last year Quartararo was champion here. What's next week?

Right here in the forum, MotoGP is not as popular as Formula 1, and MotoGP has just had its summer break, so the only thing you hear or see is how the MotoGP riders spend their holidays.

I think Marc Marquez will never come back as strong as he once was, he overdid it right after the first crash and went to the limit again with the known consequences. He is still a very good rider and will win the one or other race but I don't think he will become world champion again.
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it was easily a 1-2 for Ferrari but sadly Sainz got some problems.


Have you seen the Haas? they were using the new version of the Ferrari Hybrid engine and they were so fast! Ferrari will use it soon aswell

Yup!  Schumacher at 6th?  I think that's the highest finish he's ever had since he joined Haas or F1 for that matter.  And two spots above Magnussen too.  Smiley  Can't wait to see more in a couple of weeks.

And when do you think is Ferrari using the new version of those power units.  I think from a fan perspective, use it asap!  Verstappen seems so relaxed rn.  I wanna see Leclerc win three straight races and make the driver's championship close...  That way we'll see Verstappen back in villain mode like he did vs Hamilton.  Grin
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Red Bull and Max certainly remain favourites for the title. Ferrari's reliability concern is not improving, and a couple of DNFs for Leclerc would ruin the season for him, even if he won most of the other races. And I'm not totally convinced about the new Ferrari pace advantage yet, we need to see it at more than one track.

The next track in France should tell us more than this one,as here we had three DRS zones so that helped a lot the Ferraris without removing their speed which looked like it has improved.In the Haas it surely has and for next race these upgrades are also scheduled to be installed in the Ferraris.It will be difficult for Ferrari and Leclerc to win the Championship even if they are better in speed as we have seen Redbull plays really well in defense too,by minimizing the damage to just 6 points lost from such race.Doing such calculation and taking into account any reliability problem for Ferrari things are not looking good.
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It doesn't seem that too many people on this forum like MotoGP. I see some of the posts above discussing F1. But it doesn't matter I'm quite informed even though I didn't really follow after the Michael Schumacer era.
I saw some sports news on TV that Marquez had already taken off his arm support. That seems to be good news, maybe Marquez wants to get back to racing soon. But they shouldn't have forced it anymore, Marquez should have healed completely. I think if he's forced it will ruin his tubu. He's been on the operating table a lot and it's a severe injury.
Although he returns later, maybe Marquez needs to study psychology so that he can save more and not put his life in danger too much. Next up is the Silverstone GP, England. last year Quartararo was champion here. What's next week?
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Why did they got update earlier than Ferrari?

Maybe they need data for the simulator or maybe they needed to test the affordability, whatever it was we don't know yet.

Haas did a huge step in speed with the evolution of the engine.

(Sainz will probably take a penalty next GP and if that the case he maybe use the the engine and unlock it.)
If that is going to be the same upgrade to have such a nice engine as the performance upgrade that we saw at Haas this race,at Ferrari then most probably is game over for Verstappen and Redbull if Redbull don't have any plan on major upgrades during the year.What I know for sure is that the official holiday season will only be holiday for the drivers,the teams at the garage I bet they will be working hard during all August to bring those massive upgrades to their teams in order for them to perform better.The only team who has stop further development to this year car because their full focus is on next year so far is McLaren.

Yesterday Leclerc made a hat trick with three overtakes,all of them on Verstappen.
Red Bull could certainly do an improvement on their car if they want to, but the question is, would you rather spend money on this year's car, or would it be better to spend that money on next year's car?

There is a limited amount of people working on the car, and limited amount of resources, so if you focus on this year's car, then you would continue the upgrades from where you left off this year when next season starts. They are already ahead so much, as a team they are even further ahead, would they be able to keep that difference locked and ready until the season ends? Or will they need to improve to win it this year? I do not know, I mean even at the current rate, they may still win the title, who knows?

I strongly believe that Redbull can’t afford to get over confident here, and they should definitely work on their upgrades for this season to make sure that they continue to remain ahead of their competition.

Red Bull and Max certainly remain favourites for the title. Ferrari's reliability concern is not improving, and a couple of DNFs for Leclerc would ruin the season for him, even if he won most of the other races. And I'm not totally convinced about the new Ferrari pace advantage yet, we need to see it at more than one track.

@Cnut237 I totally agree with you because Ferrari promised us lots of stuff, but so far it’s Redbull that’s stealing the show hence in my personal opinion Max is definitely the favourite to win the title.
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