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The Hungarian GP is almost always marked by unexpected pole positions. I've been researching here and found out that it has hosted debuts like Damon Hill, Fernando Alonso, Jenson Button, Heikki Kovalainen and Esteban Ocon... all of them had their first pole position at the Hungarian GP.
But, did Russell just have a stroke of luck like the others you mention or does he have a real chance of winning the GP tomorrow?

The circuit in Hungary is quite "locked" and with very difficult overtaking, but I believe Russell has a chance of winning, if the team doesn't make a mistake in the car setup or put too much load on the tires.... tomorrow we'll find out.

Both Ferrari drivers in the post interviews yesterday after qualifying insisted heavily that tire management will be the race winning strategy for today race.I think Russell has a good chance to win the race if the race is run in normal conditions,meaning without rain and without Safety car entering the track and of course he needs to come first in the first turn.

Just half an hour to go before the race starts and the odd for Russell to win the race is really good compared to the Ferrari drivers,sometimes we need to have guts and be bold and place a bet on him although he has never started first.
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The Hungarian GP is almost always marked by unexpected pole positions. I've been researching here and found out that it has hosted debuts like Damon Hill, Fernando Alonso, Jenson Button, Heikki Kovalainen and Esteban Ocon... all of them had their first pole position at the Hungarian GP.
But, did Russell just have a stroke of luck like the others you mention or does he have a real chance of winning the GP tomorrow?

The circuit in Hungary is quite "locked" and with very difficult overtaking, but I believe Russell has a chance of winning, if the team doesn't make a mistake in the car setup or put too much load on the tires.... tomorrow we'll find out.
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The memes with Goatifi are still going on Twitter and man let me tell you that I've had good times scrolling down and see most of them.

Regarding the pole , Russel was a 10 out of 10 on track but did anyone notice Sainz look ? He was so angry at him that he missed the pole as the drove perfectly for entire session but Ferrari are having a great chance tomorrow to snatch points from RedBull and also both Sainz and Leclerc can take points from Max individually.  Grin
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Verstappen was pretty angry today. Normally he is in the top 4 at least in qualifying but this time there was quite a problem with his car. Resulting in a 10th starting position. A bad day for Red Bull as Perez didn't even make it to Q3. Russell will start first tomorrow and Leclerc second, but I think Leclerc is already past Russel in the first corner. We should not immediately write off Verstappen for tomorrow, but these developments today are nice for the championship.
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I told you back in weeks, Mercedes is reboring and they even are the team to beat after Spa with the new regulations.


Ferrari needs to get the maximum point available tomorrow to get a change for the title but it is probably already late.
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Woow I'm surprised, RedBull seems to have problems on this track and did really bad in qualifying. But the Bug surprise is Russel and Mercedes, I'm happy for Russel and his first pole position. But my favorite for tomorrow is Ferrari, if they still want to fight for the championship they should definitely get a double victory tomorrow.
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WTF Russell? Did he cut some corners?   Angry

So a badly day for RBR

It was a well deserved pole,I knew that something would happen in Hungaroring like it happened last year when Ocon won the race here.I never expected to see Russell on pole though,which will make the race really beautiful if Russell manages to get out first from the first turn,it will be difficult for him but who knows because he lacks experience compared to Sainz and Leclerc when it comes to front row starts.

Latifi had a purple S1 and then green S2 and then qualifies last because he made a really big mistake in the last turn of his fastest lap,strange things happen all the time in Formula 1 but I never saw a lap like this one through many years that I follow this sport.
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1   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m18.407s   1m18.154s   1m17.377s
2   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m18.434s   1m17.946s   1m17.421s
3   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m18.806s   1m17.768s   1m17.567s
4   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m18.653s   1m18.121s   1m17.769s
5   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m18.866s   1m18.216s   1m18.018s
6   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m18.716s   1m17.904s   1m18.078s
7   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m18.374s   1m18.035s   1m18.142s
8   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m18.935s   1m18.445s   1m18.157s
9   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m18.775s   1m18.198s   1m18.379s
10   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m18.509s   1m17.703s   1m18.823s
11   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m19.118s   1m18.516s   
12   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m18.973s   1m18.573s   
13   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m18.993s   1m18.825s   
14   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m19.205s   1m19.137s   
15   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m19.164s   1m19.202s   
16   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m19.240s       
17   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m19.256s       
18   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m19.273s       
19   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m19.527s       
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m19.570s   


https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1008953/1/f1-2022-hungarian-grand-prix-full-qualifying-results

Horrible day for RBR, Perez out from the top 10 and Max got no Power, he is now hoping he can save his engine.    
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Q3 was just wonderful and very surprising at the same time. Who would have expected a Mercedes driver to take the pole position or even that driver to be Russell? I'm not underestimating Russell by saying that of course but I mean that I was seeing Hamilton one step ahead normally. Anyway after I saw that Sainz had a great lap and Leclerc messed up, I just said that was it. But Russell had the last word by an amazing lap. It was a nightmare-like session for Verstappen as well because he lost power and finished at the 10th position.
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WTF Russell? Did he cut some corners?   Angry

So a badly day for RBR
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^  Oh..  I missed the actual final results for FP3.  Lmaooo.  Love it.  Goatifi!  The driver F1 deserves and def the one it needs right now.  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy

It's never a dull moment with him around.  I hope Williams gives him 5 more years in his contract!  And I'm telling you guys, head on to Formula Dank at Reddit.  The memes are hilarious.

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1   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m41.480s
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m42.141s
3   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m42.381s
4   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m43.205s
5   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m43.434s
6   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m43.570s
7   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m43.589s
8   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m43.743s
9   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m44.178s
10   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m44.655s
11   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m44.832s
12   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m45.156s
13   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m45.570s
14   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m45.624s
15   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m45.638s
16   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m45.691s
17   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m45.850s
18   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m45.930s
19   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m46.091s
20   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m48.240s

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1008852/1/f1-2022-hungarian-grand-prix-free-practice-results-3


Heavy rain, with the track getting dry in the end.

Latifi and Williams will save this screenshot.  Grin
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^  And it's pouring.  :/  I wasn't really watching FP3 but when I took a peek at the F1 app, I was pretty much sure the practice session was stopped just by looking at order of the cars.  Lol.

I guess it's also not worth posting the results for FP3.  So...  The wet track makes it really interesting for qualifying.  I'd say guys like Hamilton, Alonso, Verstappen and Sainz are gaining an edge against Leclerc for pole.  If Sainz is lined more than 5.00, I'll bet him.
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Something must be wrong here  Grin

Why Mclarens are so fast today? Timers are still slow.

Rain is expected tomorrow.

So if it rains today placing a bet on Norris on pole is something to try and be bold on  Grin.Jokes apart I think that Ferrari has the upper hand at this track and Redbull can only fight through the race to minimize damage,I think they should be happy with that as they are leading comfortably the Champioship.All the pressure is on Ferrari to make a 1-2 win and close the gap in the constructors Championship a lot and also a good chunk in the drivers Championship but we have to see the qualifying today to have a good idea on how the race will be tomorrow.Rain always makes things beautiful and unpredictable,however God forbid a rain like last year in SPA in Belgium.
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We are seeing Vettel at a top 10 position after being like the last, and we are seeing Mclarens being quick enough for a podium, I mean let's be honest with each other here, even Hamilton sucked. So, if you are thinking that these practice sessions mean anything other than checking data and adjusting the cars for it, then you are lying to yourself and you haven't watched too many F1 races so far and only checking because of the netflix series.

These practice runs are there for one reason only and that reason is to make sure that mechanics could see the car perform and decide on what little change they could do before the actual race starts (well quali first) and that's it.
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Ferrari is solid on this track as in all high drag tracks, and they could have a comfortable pole position tomorrow IF it does not rain.

According also to RedBull Ferrari is not beatable here.
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McLaren drivers really surprised us today. Especially Norris made a solid effort today. I'm curious about if he will manage to carry his performance to the qualifying session and race both. It is the same for Ricciardo also because he also had a decent day. Hamilton wasn't in the mood today but we will see if he will improve tomorrow. Mercedes have made a really good progress recently and I'm expecting the same in the Hungarian GP also. Leclerc seems fired up about winning the remaining races but he has a very hard job to do.
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We get the race in Hungary this weekend. Verstappen has never won here. That bodes well for Leclerc. We still have a lot of rounds to go, but if Verstappen manages to win here and Leclerc drops out again, then there is a 95% chance that Verstappen will become world champion. It would be nice for the fans and general spectator if Leclerc wins this and maybe we can also experience the necessary spectacle. I don't know who the favorite is, but it seems pretty clear to me that it is between Verstappen and Leclerc. Perez and Sainz are the best of the rest.
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Something must be wrong here  Grin

Why Mclarens are so fast today? Timers are still slow.

Rain is expected tomorrow.
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Hamilton has struggled in free practice sessions so far but we will see what he will do in qualifying session. Practice sessions still give us a little idea about what can happen at least. Ferrari and Red Bull are very quick as always. Norris have been making me surprised so far by his solid effort in both sessions. Ricciardo also did well so I wonder if McLarens will manage to have a decent success in this Grand Prix. Things haven't gone just as they expected for them so far and they would make use of some good amount of points here.

Well Hamilton was around 2 tenths of a second slower than George Russel which is quite a bit but not that big of a gap. I am also positively surprised about the performance of both Mclaren drivers. I mean it is nothing special anymore that Lando Norris is able to go all the way into Q3 in the qualifying but Daniel Ricciardo was way slower then his teammate so far this season. It seems like the news that he will also drive for Mclaren in the next season definitely have boosted the confidence of Ricciardo which is a great thing because he is a very likeable guy. Now he also needs to deliver in the qualifying and of course also in the race.
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