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The strongest car we saw today are always Ferrari and RBR.

Ferrari seems to be faster in the single lap but it seems they also use more of their tires so for the race who knows if they can do the same amount of pit stops of RBR o they will need 1 more.
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^  Yup it's getting there.  Pretty sure by Q1 at quali we get 1.31.  Maybe lower as the teams seem to like to use the softs mostly in this track. 

And it's looking good for Sainz.  Smiley  It seems like Red Bull has no answer for the Ferrari upgrades.  They better have one before Italy or Leclerc is gonna start running away and rack up more points.

2022 F1 French GP FP 2 Results

1   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m32.527s
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m32.628s
3   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m33.077s
4   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m33.291s
5   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m33.517s
6   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m33.607s
7   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m33.906s
8   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m33.928s
9   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m33.984s
10   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m34.060s
11   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m34.259s
12   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m34.264s
13   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m34.420s
14   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m34.540s
15   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m34.595s
16   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m34.653s
17   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m34.654s
18   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m34.660s
19   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m35.195s
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m35.412s
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As always Ferrari and RBR, times will go down a lot, maybe 1.31?

We will see, incredibly hot.
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I had FP1 on in the background but it just looked like FP1 was mostly dull and uneventful.  It felt like Verstappen wanted to make a statement esp after losing vs Leclerc in Red Bull's home turf.  But Leclerc took it down and I really feel like it's him who's gonna make a statement by winning all free practices and qualifying to boot.

But the race will be a coin toss if it's a Leclerc - Verstappen 1 - 2.  FP2 in a couple of hours...

Here are the results.

2022 F1 French GP FP1 Results

1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m33.930s
2   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m34.021s
3   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m34.268s
4   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m34.881s
5   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m34.979s
6   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m35.174s
7   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m35.232s
8   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m35.414s
9   Nyck de Vries   NED   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m35.426s
10   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m35.660s
11   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m35.676s
12   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m35.810s
13   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m35.828s
14   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m35.851s
15   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m35.875s
16   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m36.022s
17   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m36.104s
18   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m36.127s
19   Robert Kubica   POL   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m36.332s
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m37.043s
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this weekend will be an interesting one for the cars.

The temperature will be very hot maybe over 40°C, so the engines will be stressed out.

Also, the use of tires will be different with this temperature.
I think so too, it will be a problem for some teams, last season Mercedes always had problems in very high temperatures because of their slim design. Mercedes has a very reliable engine this year, let's see if the high temperatures cause them problems. With Ferrari, I'm not sure if they will have problems in high temperatures, but the Ferrari engine has not been very reliable lately.

RedBull is difficult to assess in the high temperatures, but the high temperatures are a big burden for man and machine this weekend.
First of all, we are going to see ALL teams have a hard time, ferrari, red bull, mercedes, all of them would have a hard time. It will not be about which team does best, it is going to be about which team does the least worst. I do not know if that makes any sense, but basically everyone will get worse, but whichever gets worse less than the other ones will win this.

The question will not be pace or anything like that, it is going to be about reliability. If we see a new winner, it is going to be about how other cars had to stop, and that's the problem, if a car gets DNF that leaves other people having a bigger chance. I am waiting on a shocking Norris win eventually, and maybe this could be the one? I don't know.

If you see some good clip from McLaren F1 official Instagram page you will see that last year Norris did a lot of overtaking in the "Le Castlellet" part as they call it.I highly doubt though that any McLaren can fight for a win in normal conditions,dry conditions I mean because McLaren has already stopped further development of this year car with all the focus being shifted to the 2023 car where they have promised to bring massive upgrades.

Well that is also to be seen,as a lot of times they have promised massive upgrades for the next year season and 100% of the times in this decade they failed miserably to do that,they did not deliver.
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Ferrari will have a new back wing from this weekend.

Also Sainz will may take a penalty for using a new engine, nothing sure yet but it is possible.

According to the article, Ferrari already had a new rear wing in Spielberg and the autor think it's a big factor for the victory at Spielberg, and it is also assumed in the article that this has improved the top speed, especially when using DRS. According to the article, the new rear wing was tested for the first time in Canada and since Silverstone both cars use the new rear wing specification.

https://www.motorsport-magazin.com/formel1/news-278251-formel-1-ferrari-sieg-in-oesterreich-dank-wunderfluegel/

And yes a penalty is very possible.
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this weekend will be an interesting one for the cars.

The temperature will be very hot maybe over 40°C, so the engines will be stressed out.

Also, the use of tires will be different with this temperature.
I think so too, it will be a problem for some teams, last season Mercedes always had problems in very high temperatures because of their slim design. Mercedes has a very reliable engine this year, let's see if the high temperatures cause them problems. With Ferrari, I'm not sure if they will have problems in high temperatures, but the Ferrari engine has not been very reliable lately.

RedBull is difficult to assess in the high temperatures, but the high temperatures are a big burden for man and machine this weekend.
First of all, we are going to see ALL teams have a hard time, ferrari, red bull, mercedes, all of them would have a hard time. It will not be about which team does best, it is going to be about which team does the least worst. I do not know if that makes any sense, but basically everyone will get worse, but whichever gets worse less than the other ones will win this.

The question will not be pace or anything like that, it is going to be about reliability. If we see a new winner, it is going to be about how other cars had to stop, and that's the problem, if a car gets DNF that leaves other people having a bigger chance. I am waiting on a shocking Norris win eventually, and maybe this could be the one? I don't know.
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It will be a fun race between Red Bull and Ferrari. Those are the teams that normally call the shots and fight for the win. We should not expect too many things from Mercedes. I still don't understand how it is that Mercedes is so far behind Red Bull and Ferrari because of the new regulations? after all, they also had to adhere to the new rules and all teams seem to have become stronger and Mercedes weaker. Very weird. Maybe Toto Wolf mismanagement?
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Ferrari will have a new back wing from this weekend.

Also Sainz will may take a penalty for using a new engine, nothing sure yet but it is possible.

If he doesn't get a penalty all the other drivers will complain as when they changed the unit even when it was not their fault like in the case of Sainz they still got penalized from 5-10 positions below from the one they will make in the Pole Position.I doubt this will be different for Sainz.

Beside the back wing I think they will also have the upgraded engine where we saw it last race at Austria how great it was at Haas,don't know if Leclerc will get it but Sainz who is going to be penalized most likely should test it,it can be the winning factor in this track.
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Ferrari will have a new back wing from this weekend.

Also Sainz will may take a penalty for using a new engine, nothing sure yet but it is possible.
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Rins who has three MotoGP victories, will race for LCR for the next two seasons with the support of the Honda team. I glad to hear that news. Rins is an experienced and fast driver. Regularly on the podium. In addition, Rins will contribute positively to the team's more podium challenges and motorcycle development by sharing their experiences and giving feedback to Honda LCR engineers. I can't wait to follow Rins next year.
Rins is an experienced rider in MotoGP. But when he starts with a new bike next year, I think he also needs a little more adjustment for himself because the character between the Suzuki GSX-RR bike and the Honda RC213-V is very different. And you can also see how many Honda riders are able to ride the RC213-V motorcycle well

But also LCR Honda has its permanent people, I think it will be a matter of negotiation for Rins which trusted team members he can take with him from Suzuki to Honda.
Now I'm starting to find the answer where Alex Rins is prohibited from bringing Suzuki crew to his new team. In fact, he wants to wade through MotoGP 2023 with crew chief Jose Manuel Cazeaux. Maybe Cazeaux will reunite with Vinales. The signal is getting stronger along with Rins' confession, to Motorsport.com.
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this weekend will be an interesting one for the cars.

The temperature will be very hot maybe over 40°C, so the engines will be stressed out.

Also, the use of tires will be different with this temperature.

I think so too, it will be a problem for some teams, last season Mercedes always had problems in very high temperatures because of their slim design. Mercedes has a very reliable engine this year, let's see if the high temperatures cause them problems. With Ferrari, I'm not sure if they will have problems in high temperatures, but the Ferrari engine has not been very reliable lately.

RedBull is difficult to assess in the high temperatures, but the high temperatures are a big burden for man and machine this weekend.
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this weekend will be an interesting one for the cars.

The temperature will be very hot maybe over 40°C, so the engines will be stressed out.

Also, the use of tires will be different with this temperature.
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Maybe he doesn't really know how to speak English and all the English he's learned is from hip hop music with explicit lyrics.  Cheesy  He should be careful.  The 'n word' might slip out of his mouth while talking on the radio.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  That would def mean the end of his F1 career.  Lolol.
From what I remember reading somewhere, English of Tsunoda isn't that good. Yeah, he should be careful not just on radio, but also while gaming, as we already saw, 'n word', even not directed to anyone, can cost contract. On the other hand, Vesrtappen called Stroll Mongol, and nothing didn't happened. But Tsunoda isn't Verstappen Cheesy.

Next race in France, one of the most boring tracks. During one of previous races there, I literally fall asleep. I hope it won't happen this time Cheesy.

But last year's race in France was exciting tho with Verstappen making a DRS pass at the last lap or I remember it was the last lap to get the win.

But yeah..  Last year was an extra ordinary season with lots of the races having that 'something extra' for the fans because it was a race for the WDC between two drivers who wouldn't budge.  I think it's gonna take three straight Leclerc wins before we see Verstappen in villain mode again and make the season as fun as last year.  Cheesy
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This is very good news for the LCR Honda team and also for an experienced rider like Alex Rins. I have also read this news in several local and foreign media.
But I want to know if the Suzuki team that handled Alex Rins will also join the LCR Honda team? Or will they return to their respective homes or go to other teams next year?
Because so far I haven't found any news about where Alex Rins' own team crew is going

I read once that Suzuki has forbidden the transfer of employees to other teams, but I think it will be like with the riders, if I don't have a valid contract anymore, I can move wherever I want and I will also try to get a permanent job again.

But also LCR Honda has its permanent people, I think it will be a matter of negotiation for Rins which trusted team members he can take with him from Suzuki to Honda.
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The point gap between Verstappen and Leclerc is 38 now. This is not a huge gap at all. Leclerc just needs to keep up the good work in the coming races. I liked his performance too much in the Austria GP. Despite everything in the final laps he still managed to win. I will be expecting another tough competition between them in the French GP. I'm thinking of supporting Leclerc for the win. I really want to see him as the champion this time. Ferrari are having their best season after many years. This is time for a Ferrari driver to shine.
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Maybe he doesn't really know how to speak English and all the English he's learned is from hip hop music with explicit lyrics.  Cheesy  He should be careful.  The 'n word' might slip out of his mouth while talking on the radio.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  That would def mean the end of his F1 career.  Lolol.
From what I remember reading somewhere, English of Tsunoda isn't that good. Yeah, he should be careful not just on radio, but also while gaming, as we already saw, 'n word', even not directed to anyone, can cost contract. On the other hand, Vesrtappen called Stroll Mongol, and nothing didn't happened. But Tsunoda isn't Verstappen Cheesy.

Next race in France, one of the most boring tracks. During one of previous races there, I literally fall asleep. I hope it won't happen this time Cheesy.

I believe we are going to see a great race in France this time,the cars have not that big difference and we have seen from quite a lot of races during this year the maximum extreme gap between 1st and 2nd has been some like near 20 seconds in Miami if I am not mistaken.It means cars follow each other much better compared to the old versions of the 2021 F1,Ferrari is the strong favorite in this track which has a lot of turns but they have an inside enemy which is called reliability which can turn things around.Now it is time for Redbull to bring new upgrades as the new Ferrari engine is going to crush them in this track if they are still without any significant upgrade.
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Rins who has three MotoGP victories, will race for LCR for the next two seasons with the support of the Honda team. I glad to hear that news. Rins is an experienced and fast driver. Regularly on the podium. In addition, Rins will contribute positively to the team's more podium challenges and motorcycle development by sharing their experiences and giving feedback to Honda LCR engineers. I can't wait to follow Rins next year.
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At MotoGP are news about Rins and Honda. It's now official and Alex Rins will ride for LCR Honda for two years from the beginning 2023. I hope that Rins now again has the head clear and can ride again carefree. With the new contract, it could go uphill again with Rins after all the failures this year.

https://www.krone.at/2763958
This is very good news for the LCR Honda team and also for an experienced rider like Alex Rins. I have also read this news in several local and foreign media.
But I want to know if the Suzuki team that handled Alex Rins will also join the LCR Honda team? Or will they return to their respective homes or go to other teams next year?
Because so far I haven't found any news about where Alex Rins' own team crew is going
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Maybe he doesn't really know how to speak English and all the English he's learned is from hip hop music with explicit lyrics.  Cheesy  He should be careful.  The 'n word' might slip out of his mouth while talking on the radio.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  That would def mean the end of his F1 career.  Lolol.
From what I remember reading somewhere, English of Tsunoda isn't that good. Yeah, he should be careful not just on radio, but also while gaming, as we already saw, 'n word', even not directed to anyone, can cost contract. On the other hand, Vesrtappen called Stroll Mongol, and nothing didn't happened. But Tsunoda isn't Verstappen Cheesy.

Next race in France, one of the most boring tracks. During one of previous races there, I literally fall asleep. I hope it won't happen this time Cheesy.
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