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Yes that was the case and Ferrari did the maximum yesterday to overtake Verstappen both Leclerc at the beginning,and Sainz soon after,but the fight between the two Ferraris made it very easy for Verstappen to go away and easy manage the race,however that was the max capability for the Ferraris and that is sad for all the fans as it looks like Redbull will win again and move further.Only the pit stop strategy can make Ferrari win and they should aim for it,however this will be difficult as Perez is starting fifth right behind their tail and he is a very good collaborative driver for the team.

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Ferrari didn't do itself any favors in the sprint race when Leclerc and Sainz fought hard for second place, allowing Verstappen to win without any danger. Also a very good race from Perez who has improved by many places, so he has a good starting position for today. The weather today could guarantee an exciting race because it could rain at any time.

It was a good sprint race. Verstappen won another one and as far as I know the number of victories in sprint races has increased to three for him. Him and Bottas are the only winners of sprint races so far. By the way the mistake Alpine made on Alonso's car was really hilarious. How did they forget such a thing? Anyway the driver of the day was Perez for sure after so many overtakes.

Not bad sprint race after all. As I said after qualifying, Perez is going gain most positions and it happened. Solid performance from him. Schumacher defending from Hamilton was great thing to watch. It's a bit sad that Mick didn't managed to keep Lewis behind until the end and get 1 point. Ferrari fighting each other let Verstappen to win sprint comfortable. But Ferrari should decide whether to prioritise Leclerc or let Sainz to fight with him.

It is definitely a shocking scene to see Ferrari racers going at each other. I mean not saying that you should leave it, but when the number one driver and number two driver are not clearly notified who they are, this is going to happen. Like Bottas knew Hamilton was number one, it was obvious to everyone, and Perez knows Verstappen is number one, no doubt about that at all. But, when it comes to this?

Ferrari still doesn't know who is number one. We see Charles as number one for sure, but Sainz finished better just last season, really not that weird for him to think he is better. Hell even Mclaren made it clear with their car improvements on who is number one.

In this sprint race I liked Sergio Perez the most honestly. Because he gained eight places which was really incredible to see. He made up for his punishment very well. The first laps of the sprint race was good too because we watched a really nice rivalry between Sainz and Leclerc. Sainz seemed faster but Leclerc defended him very well until Sainz gave up on attacking. Verstappen led the race easily to the end. However the race might be a little more different if Leclerc saved his real power for the race tomorrow. Verstappen is still the favourite to win the race of course.

Good recovery from Perez, still impressive how good is Redbull with DRS.

In comparison, Hamilton got a log of problems overtaking Schumacher.

The starting two laps of the sprint rwce was nice with Leclerc and Sainz going at it vs Verstappen but then at the second lap it then proceeded to be a battle for P2 between two team mates which was hilarious to see cos we know Leclerc is mad af after Silverstone.  

I think Leclerc will really start to fight for every inch of the remaining races, be it vs Verstappen, Perez or even vs Sainz.  His season has finally now really started.  I hope he wins a couple of races and gets closer in points with Verstappen.  That would makes things a lot more interesting.

2022 F1 Austrian GP Sprint Race Results

1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   23 Laps
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   + 1.675s
3   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   + 5.644s
4   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   + 13.429s
5   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   + 18.302s
6   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   + 31.032s
7   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   + 34.539s
8   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   + 35.447s
9   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   + 37.163s
10   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   + 37.557s
11   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   + 38.580s
12   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   + 39.738s
13   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   + 48.241s
14   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   + 50.753s
15   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   + 52.125s
16   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   + 52.412s
17   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   + 54.556s
18   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   + 68.694s
    Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   DNF
    Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   DNS

Today we are watching a sprint race, that's the second time this season. Verstappen is the leader again from the start. Leclerc and Sainz got a battle for second place. It's nice for us to see they battle each other but I don't know about Ferrari management. They may not be as happy as fans.
First eight place get points and battle for eight place was also exciting. Hamilton passed Mick Schumacher in last laps and got one point. Perez reduced damage and finished fifth. Leclerc got the fastest laps. Tomorrow's race will be very exciting and as Leclerc said they have a good chance in Grand Prix.

That is showing good performance from Ferrari but we will find it soon enough in the Sprint race starting just 30 minutes from now if they are truly faster than Redbull or that Redbull is just trying different setups.I think it is the true form of Ferrari and I hope they show it during this Sprint race,we really need some team to overtake the Redbulls during a race,a thing which up until now has not happened,overtaking Verstappen I mean,as for Perez he is just a good 2nd driver and I don't think his chances to win F1 are as real as those of Verstappen and Leclerc during this year.

The last hour of the practice has been concluded.

1   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m08.610s
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m08.660s
3   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m08.778s
4   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m08.832s
5   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m08.848s
6   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m09.179s
7   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m09.240s
8   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m09.251s
9   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m09.350s
10   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m09.519s
11   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m09.525s
12   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m09.579s
13   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m09.602s
14   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m09.665s
15   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m09.700s
16   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m09.740s
17   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m09.852s
18   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m09.960s
19   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m10.005s
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m10.261s

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1007640/1/f1-2022-austrian-grand-prix-free-practice-results-2

The qualifying session was really nice to watch for me. I regret to say that Hamilton and Russell had a bad day but both of them are still in a little profit now. Because Perez's best lap in Q2 and all laps in Q3 have been removed and he went down to the 13th place in the grid. Especially Russell is still going to start in the 4th place even though he crashed into a wall and left the session early. Verstappen and Leclerc competed very well against each other and Verstappen is starting from the 1st place today in the sprint race. I think we will see a really good competition again in this race and Leclerc might even take the pole too.

The sprint is today but it is on 16.30 European time so there is time until that.I think that Verstappen will have a very easy sprint race which will give him the top position in the end of the sprint and the first for tomorrow race only if he manages to get out first out of the first turn.Leclerc will probably go all in and attack him because he knows very well it will be the only chance to catch Verstappen,we all know that Redbull in race distance and especially with Verstappen is almost unstoppable,I have not yet seen any race that another car have overtaken Verstappen during a race.

Of course i totally forgot about the fact that we are having a sprint qualifying this race weekend and when i came home yesterday evening i was obviously surprised that it already happened. The result of the qualifying itself was not that surprising. With Verstappen on the pole position followed by Leclerc and Sainz we basically have the outcome that was probably expected by most people. Perez would have completed the completely expected result with P4 but he got that penalty and has to start from P13 now.
Also it was a pretty strong performance of Haas in the Qualfiying P6 and P7 are great results for them.

Vettel had a problem with the lines and his record was deleted, but even with that he was like 15th or 16th and wasn't doing fine. Aston Martin should stop whatever they are doing and start doing all they can to get it better, like literally design the whole car from scratch if you have to, this isn't just working.

You can't have Sebastian Vettel on your team and watch him get killed in all of this, dude deserves to be somewhere much better. If he stayed in Ferrari and he raised Charles with him as a veteran, Charles could have been much better today for example. It's just silly to see him racing for such a bad team, he deserves to be treated like a king right now.

Both Mercedes were in the aggressive move, which means very low high.

In this case, a minimal variation of the vacuum created under the car and you are unable to keep the car on the track.

They were fighting for the pole, they tried and got no luck.

I was at work, so, wasn't able to watch qualification. Not surprised about results at all. Perez lap time removed probably is good thing for neutral spectators - it means that's he probably will try to make sprint actually, there is potential to gain a lot position for him. Now I watch replay of Mercedes crashes - Russel did very typical mistake in this track, while Hamilton crash looks a bit strange.

All the timers for Perez have been removed, he did an invalid lap on Q2 so they removed all the Q3 times to.

This will be the official start.



Source: https://twitter.com/Roberta07love/status/1545494662437371904/photo/1

I missed Q1 and Q2 and caught a stream at the first red flag of Q3..   I forgot that it was going to be a sprint race with quali happening today instead of tomorrow.  But yeah, unfortunate for both Mercedes drivers.

And on the last runs after the second red flag, I really thought Leclerc had P1 in the bag when Verstappen had a slightly slower run at sector 1 and 2.  But surprisingly got pole after a decent last run at sector 3.

2022 F1 Austrian GP Qualifying Results

1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m05.852s   1m05.374s   1m04.984s
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m05.419s   1m05.287s   1m05.013s
3   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m05.660s   1m05.576s   1m05.066s
4   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m06.143s   1m05.805s   1m05.404s
5   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m06.235s   1m05.697s   1m05.431s
6   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m06.468s   1m05.993s   1m05.726s
7   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m06.366s   1m05.894s   1m05.879s
8   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m06.405s   1m06.151s   1m06.011s
9   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m06.016s   1m06.082s   1m06.103s
10   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m06.079s   1m05.475s   1m13.151s
11   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m06.589s   1m06.160s   
12   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m06.516s   1m06.230s   
13   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m06.442s   1m06.319s   
14   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m06.463s   1m06.851s   
15   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m06.330s   1m25.847s   
16   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m06.613s       
17   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m06.847s       
18   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m06.901s       
19   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m07.003s       
20   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m07.083s