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I think I have never seen rain in the Hungarian GP
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July 27, 2022, 04:46:23 PM
So it may rain this weekend
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I think I have never seen rain in the Hungarian GP
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I think I have never seen rain in the Hungarian GP
July 27, 2022, 08:15:48 AM
Max is definitely the champion after this race, there wasn't a doubt in my mind but there were some in some people, but everyone should agree after such a day. In the end we are talking about Ferrari as a competition and we all know Ferrari is a shitty team these days. They have been like this for a long time.
Charles didn't crash because of any team mistakes I think, but at the end of the day he is still not at fault neither, it is just racing and sometimes this happens. So, we could end up focusing on the next races. Red Bull and Max will be the winners, but just because we know the winner doesn't mean we can't watch the season. Lewis won so many and with ease, but we still watched right?
Charles didn't crash because of any team mistakes I think, but at the end of the day he is still not at fault neither, it is just racing and sometimes this happens. So, we could end up focusing on the next races. Red Bull and Max will be the winners, but just because we know the winner doesn't mean we can't watch the season. Lewis won so many and with ease, but we still watched right?
100% correct and this is coming from a Ferrari fan. Personally, I do think that even if Charles won this race , Max would still have been the champ by the end of the year. Why ? Because he is already in that mental state of a champ and you can see this in his race when he makes no mistakes during the race and he keeps calm and all that by just the age of 24. Crazy , right ? Well , that's what happens when you're fighting in top for multiple years , you become so adapt with pressure and what you need to win a champ , that you won't make any mistakes and that's why you win races sometimes.
We are in another race week now right before the summer break. This race is going to be very important mentally for Verstappen and Leclerc both. Because in case one of them captures a significant advantage against the other, that driver is going to have a more satisfying ending in the first half of the season. Leclerc desperately needs to win the Hungarian GP this weekend. After that very unfortunate crash the gap with Verstappen has been opened too much. He needs to win as many races as possible to still have a chance for the championship.
While I agree with you from the past races we have seen there is no real big difference between the cars as even Ocon with Alpine has won this race with the right circumstances that favored him a couple of years ago.This means that the upcoming race will be a fierce full battle and most probably if only one of the two drivers have a reliability or some other problem can make the other one to get a significant advantage over the other,mostly Leclerc should win this race otherwise if Verstappen wins this I think the title war ends here.
@boltz it’s another disappointing season so far from Ferrari as I personally had expected them to fight hard for the title, but I guess that now we can only hope for a miracle other wise this season too will end like the past few seasons i.e. Ferrari failing to win again. @swogerino I strongly feel that mentally Max is stronger than Leclerc and that’s why he’ll defeat him again during the upcoming race, and if that happens then I doubt that Leclerc will be able to bounce back from this latest setback.
July 27, 2022, 04:52:19 AM
We are in another race week now right before the summer break. This race is going to be very important mentally for Verstappen and Leclerc both. Because in case one of them captures a significant advantage against the other, that driver is going to have a more satisfying ending in the first half of the season. Leclerc desperately needs to win the Hungarian GP this weekend. After that very unfortunate crash the gap with Verstappen has been opened too much. He needs to win as many races as possible to still have a chance for the championship.
While I agree with you from the past races we have seen there is no real big difference between the cars as even Ocon with Alpine has won this race with the right circumstances that favored him a couple of years ago.This means that the upcoming race will be a fierce full battle and most probably if only one of the two drivers have a reliability or some other problem can make the other one to get a significant advantage over the other,mostly Leclerc should win this race otherwise if Verstappen wins this I think the title war ends here.
July 27, 2022, 04:41:14 AM
Max is definitely the champion after this race, there wasn't a doubt in my mind but there were some in some people, but everyone should agree after such a day. In the end we are talking about Ferrari as a competition and we all know Ferrari is a shitty team these days. They have been like this for a long time.
Charles didn't crash because of any team mistakes I think, but at the end of the day he is still not at fault neither, it is just racing and sometimes this happens. So, we could end up focusing on the next races. Red Bull and Max will be the winners, but just because we know the winner doesn't mean we can't watch the season. Lewis won so many and with ease, but we still watched right?
Charles didn't crash because of any team mistakes I think, but at the end of the day he is still not at fault neither, it is just racing and sometimes this happens. So, we could end up focusing on the next races. Red Bull and Max will be the winners, but just because we know the winner doesn't mean we can't watch the season. Lewis won so many and with ease, but we still watched right?
100% correct and this is coming from a Ferrari fan. Personally, I do think that even if Charles won this race , Max would still have been the champ by the end of the year. Why ? Because he is already in that mental state of a champ and you can see this in his race when he makes no mistakes during the race and he keeps calm and all that by just the age of 24. Crazy , right ? Well , that's what happens when you're fighting in top for multiple years , you become so adapt with pressure and what you need to win a champ , that you won't make any mistakes and that's why you win races sometimes.
July 27, 2022, 03:40:05 AM
We are in another race week now right before the summer break. This race is going to be very important mentally for Verstappen and Leclerc both. Because in case one of them captures a significant advantage against the other, that driver is going to have a more satisfying ending in the first half of the season. Leclerc desperately needs to win the Hungarian GP this weekend. After that very unfortunate crash the gap with Verstappen has been opened too much. He needs to win as many races as possible to still have a chance for the championship.
July 27, 2022, 03:38:28 AM
The race was really horrible for Ferrari. Leclerc's unfortunate crash made him very frustrated. He was very angry for some time after the incident. These things exist in Formula 1 I'm afraid as everything can change by only one lap. However Ferrari were at fault as well. The reason is that they still can't give a proper-working car for Leclerc and Sainz both. After scary events in the Austria GP this time Leclerc was out of the race. Sainz also had a bad race because of a bad pit and unsafe release.
This time though was 100% Leclerc fault as he lost the rear trying to make a gap with Verstappen in order to come first even after he was to enter the pits.Ferrari as we saw with Sainz this time brought the most performing car of the weekend and it was also the fastest as we saw that really really fast lap of 1.34.xxx while before the fastest lap was 1.37.096 from Verstappen,this shows that Ferrari clearly has improved a lot.It is time now for its drivers to start acting accordingly and the thing they need to do more and much better is to not lose the calm.
July 27, 2022, 03:29:37 AM
The still ambiguous leveling, I don't know when he will reduce the bike in the race. With 8 bikes actually Ducati has a great chance of winning the constructors. But I also haven't figured out what the reason they will reduce the number of bikes in the race. It should be that 8 bikes are quite suitable and have been allowed by Dorna. In addition Suzuki has also resigned, meaning ducati has a fixed chance with 8 bikes and riders.
Broadly speaking this is true because Ducati can have the advantage of winning the constructors' championship every season. But if there is an independent team that is already a customer of Ducati preferring a motorcycle engine other than Ducati, then it will also make Ducati will experience a shortage of motorcycles in the MotoGP grid.But Paolo Ciabatti doesn't mention about that now. Except just to mention about making it easier to manage everyone before the race starts because I see Ducati always leaving people in the independent team garage.
July 26, 2022, 04:36:36 PM
The race was really horrible for Ferrari. Leclerc's unfortunate crash made him very frustrated. He was very angry for some time after the incident. These things exist in Formula 1 I'm afraid as everything can change by only one lap. However Ferrari were at fault as well. The reason is that they still can't give a proper-working car for Leclerc and Sainz both. After scary events in the Austria GP this time Leclerc was out of the race. Sainz also had a bad race because of a bad pit and unsafe release.
The problem is that team had the data from the rear tires which means that they could have pitted him earlier. When you are racing at the head and you are about to win and if you can't end up pitting at the right time and then you get a rear tire imbalance which sends you off to the wall, that's going to piss you off a lot.I know it looks like a normal crash that happens a million times, but it was about the team again which is a problem for him. Dude is aware that as long as the team keeps making on these mistakes, even if you give him the best car then he is going to end up losing. He had the best car that day and he still lost, because team failed to read the data on his tires and didn't pit him earlier.
July 26, 2022, 10:59:31 AM
Paolo Ciabatti of Ducati revealed that they would not have 8 Ducati bikes forever in MotoGP and also said they would lose some young players. I think it's actually a very interesting thing because it can provide a good opportunity for other manufacturers' teams if the owners of independent teams start looking at several other manufacturers besides Ducati. As in the example of the RNF Racing team that moved from Yamaha to Aprilia next year.
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The still ambiguous leveling, I don't know when he will reduce the bike in the race. With 8 bikes actually Ducati has a great chance of winning the constructors. But I also haven't figured out what the reason they will reduce the number of bikes in the race. It should be that 8 bikes are quite suitable and have been allowed by Dorna. In addition Suzuki has also resigned, meaning ducati has a fixed chance with 8 bikes and riders.
July 26, 2022, 10:23:03 AM
I agree with Ferrari this time,they did the best choice for Sainz,sure he would have been second as he would have passed also Hamilton with the pace he had but I am sure he would have had a puncture if he kept racing at that pace or if he would not get the pace the tire would degrade surely in the last 10 laps and everybody else would have surpassed him again.So Ferrari did for once the right call with Sainz,they even got the fastest lap of the race.
Leclerc made the mistake exactly where he needed the most not to do it,now Verstappen 62 points ahead and when Leclerc loses Verstappen extend the gap with minimum of 15-25 points,when Verstappen loses Leclerc closes the distance by just 6-12 points and this says a lot for the title fight.I agree that in 10 races is almost impossible to close the gap by 62 points unless bad things happen to Verstappen.
Ferrari may have the most performant car right now but Max is more solid at the moment.
Keep also in mind Max is already in his 8th year in F1, even if he is so young he is still experienced, the rookie Max was the more exciting driver but too reckless.
Another advantage in the second part of the season, Ferrari already got a penalty so they have some free parts for the cars, while if Redbull will need more they will take a penalty.
So you think the Ferraris will be faster and the cars more reliable in Hungary? At first glance, I think the books will over adjust and line Verstappen a lot wider than they used to giving some value for betting on Leclerc. But what do you think?
And I wonder what happened to the Haas. Just when I thought they're going to be regulars at the midtable, they have a bad race. Mick Schumacher near the bottom and Magnussen didn't finish. Lol. Fishy...
July 26, 2022, 07:44:26 AM
Pilot error, stamina issues and poor strategy decisions resulted in Leclerc losing key points in five races. Leclerc is also in second place in the championship due to significant points losses. He started the race from pole at the Paul Ricard Circuit, Leclerc's second home. Leclerc had the pace to win this race. But a mistake on the eighteenth lap caused Leclerc to crash. Leclerc said the accident was caused by the accelerator pedal, but Ferrari denied it. He later admitted his accident. The Ferrari team had to overhaul the tires due to the increasing heat in this race. In order to relieve the load on the front tires, it made the rear more prone to slipping. For this reason, the rear side was more prone to wear. As a result, the accident was inevitable. I think they should think about it being Ferrari's fault here.
July 26, 2022, 05:22:34 AM
Paolo Ciabatti of Ducati revealed that they would not have 8 Ducati bikes forever in MotoGP and also said they would lose some young players. I think it's actually a very interesting thing because it can provide a good opportunity for other manufacturers' teams if the owners of independent teams start looking at several other manufacturers besides Ducati. As in the example of the RNF Racing team that moved from Yamaha to Aprilia next year.
Source: https://www.gpone.com/it/2022/07/25/motogp/ciabatti-non-avremo-8-ducati-in-motogp-per-sempre-perderemo-dei-giovani.html?refresh_ce
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July 25, 2022, 06:16:01 PM
The race was really horrible for Ferrari. Leclerc's unfortunate crash made him very frustrated. He was very angry for some time after the incident. These things exist in Formula 1 I'm afraid as everything can change by only one lap. However Ferrari were at fault as well. The reason is that they still can't give a proper-working car for Leclerc and Sainz both. After scary events in the Austria GP this time Leclerc was out of the race. Sainz also had a bad race because of a bad pit and unsafe release.
July 25, 2022, 05:10:15 PM
Max is definitely the champion after this race, there wasn't a doubt in my mind but there were some in some people, but everyone should agree after such a day. In the end we are talking about Ferrari as a competition and we all know Ferrari is a shitty team these days. They have been like this for a long time.
Charles didn't crash because of any team mistakes I think, but at the end of the day he is still not at fault neither, it is just racing and sometimes this happens. So, we could end up focusing on the next races. Red Bull and Max will be the winners, but just because we know the winner doesn't mean we can't watch the season. Lewis won so many and with ease, but we still watched right?
Charles didn't crash because of any team mistakes I think, but at the end of the day he is still not at fault neither, it is just racing and sometimes this happens. So, we could end up focusing on the next races. Red Bull and Max will be the winners, but just because we know the winner doesn't mean we can't watch the season. Lewis won so many and with ease, but we still watched right?
July 25, 2022, 01:22:48 PM
The Italians, yes, may have created a world brand in vehicle construction and aesthetics, but a team that brings such a big brand down in human management and team management does not really suit. If you're racing with a Ferrari car, you can't make people ask 'oh boy.. what will happen this time', it's very clear!! When the driver is good, the car is bad. When the car is good, the driver is bad. But the worst part comes from the team captain. They say to lecrec, who makes 20 laps, take more laps and open the distance. He tells Sainz, who has done 20 laps, to pit quickly.
July 25, 2022, 03:54:13 AM
After the good teamwork in qualifying that brought Leclerc pole position, he not only shits away the race but probably also the world championship due to a stupid mistake. 63 points are now a lot and Leclerc could even be overtaken by Perez.
I completely agree that Leclerc cannot hold pressure very well as we have seen that in Imola and at yesterday race in France.Most likely it was a costly mistake but Ferrari looked yesterday like the most performing car compared to Redbull and Mercedes so there is still some little hope left.
As for Perez he was sleeping yesterday during the whole race,he was not with his mind and not at all concentrated in the race,he was even passed like a complete noob/rookie from George Russell.By such performance I wonder why he should continue to have a place at Redbull.
July 25, 2022, 02:58:56 AM
After the good teamwork in qualifying that brought Leclerc pole position, he not only shits away the race but probably also the world championship due to a stupid mistake. 63 points are now a lot and Leclerc could even be overtaken by Perez.
Reminds me a little of Vettel at Hockenheim.
Reminds me a little of Vettel at Hockenheim.
July 25, 2022, 01:36:47 AM
It was another disappointing race for Ferrari. Leclerc crashed into the wall after losing the control of the car and couldn't return to the race after that. Throttle was his biggest enemy once again. If he was able to return then maybe the race would have ended much different. Verstappen was too comfortable after this incident and won the race easily. Now there is a huge gap of 63 points between them. The time is running out slowly for Leclerc to catch up with Verstappen. From now on he really needs to be very lucky.
July 25, 2022, 01:32:20 AM
Honestly, mercedes did have a double podium, BUT that was mainly because ferrari was out. Charles was out proper, but Sainz nearly got the podium but he had to serve his penalty and thats why his race result was purely gone, this is why I am not shocked about the mercedes podium. We all said that it was obvious from the get go that mercedes was the third best team, and thats not shocking result, hence why I believe that we shouldn't really believe that we couldn't really claim anything shocking with a podium for them when ferrari is out. They could have even finished first, eventually will, when all other options are having trouble.
July 24, 2022, 05:02:50 PM
This was a smart decision for a single driver, but not as a team. Basically what Ferrari achieved was getting the pole position and if Leclerc doesn't start very well on this race, they will be left behind and they would not get something great result, it's a whole race and anything could happen, getting that pole is a big deal but not the whole thing, on the other hand we have seen Red Bull not reply in kind, and didn't do any tow, but they got 2-3 and that's good enough, it means that they will get a better total as a team. Which one is more important?
I wouldn't know, I guess that Max is ahead enough that he could finish second and would be fine as long as Perez finishes third because Sainz is nowhere to be found.
I wouldn't know, I guess that Max is ahead enough that he could finish second and would be fine as long as Perez finishes third because Sainz is nowhere to be found.
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