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I like racing cars and motorcycles but in recent years I stopped following this sport, but today just when I was going to read news about this sport I see on all news channels about this guy Carlos Sainz who won pole position for the first time, luck his but the question is if he will be able to keep up with this rhythm of victories


as a Lewis Hamilton fan I will watch tomorrow's race for a few minutes, due to the time difference the race will be at a time when I like to sleep so I will only watch a few minutes, but I will bet on Verstappen


in my opinion (an amateur's opinion) Verstappen wins, at least from the few things I was able to research as a beginner in the world of car and motorcycle racing betting

A bit surprising but I'm very happy for Sainz for his first pole position in his Formula 1 career. Maybe he had not managed it under normal track conditions? But it doesn't matter and Verstappen caused his spin himself. I would also be happy about his first victory in Formula 1.

Yeah the track was so wet at the start of qualifying but kinda improved a bit towards the end but still wet to not put the slicks on.  I hope it's dry and sunny tomorrow so we could have a proper race at Silverstone.  I was kinda hoping Hamilton would get P3 for some Verstappen vs Hamilton action after what happened last year. 

And congrats to Sainz!  He looks more handsome after getting P1. 



But I just want to post one thing...  Latifi meme!

Well done to Sainz for his first Pole in his F1 career,it was about time although it was because of the yellow flags that stopped Max by doing the fast third sector,he was much faster than Sainz in the 2 first sectors of the track,nevertheless no one will remember how the weather was,all will remember Sainz F1 first career pole.

For the race though as Max said in the post qualifying interview the car was in excellent condition and much faster per lap than Ferrari so I see no real contention to the race tomorrow,if they don't crash intentionally or unintentionally at the first turn then most probably a Redbull car will win the race.This was in this difficult conditions,I can only imagine if there is no rain tomorrow that Redbull to be even faster than today and that massive upgrade Ferrari team director was saying looks like it was a true thing.

Heavy rain today, Sainz got the poleposition!


1   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m40.190s   1m41.602s   1m40.983s
2   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m39.129s   1m40.655s   1m41.055s
3   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m39.846s   1m41.247s   1m41.298s
4   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m40.521s   1m42.513s   1m41.616s
5   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m40.428s   1m41.062s   1m41.995s
6   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m41.515s   1m41.821s   1m42.084s
7   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m41.598s   1m42.209s   1m42.116s
8   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m40.028s   1m41.725s   1m42.161s
9   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m40.791s   1m42.640s   1m42.719s
10   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m41.998s   1m43.273s   2m03.095s
11   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m41.680s   1m43.702s   
12   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m41.396s   1m44.232s   
13   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m41.893s   1m44.311s   
14   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m41.933s   1m44.355s   
15   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m41.730s   1m45.190s   
16   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m42.078s       
17   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m42.159s       
18   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m42.666s       
19   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m42.708s       
20   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m43.430s       


Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1007087/1/f1-2022-british-grand-prix-full-qualifying-results

Gratz to Latifi too 1st time in q3

Carlos Sainz took pole position for the first time. He made his best time in the last lap and finished the qualifying laps as the leader. Weather conditions were quite challenging, both visibility and handling were difficult due to rain and fog. Again, it will be a race where Ferrari and RB Racing will start in the top four. Latifi last on P3, that was surprising. Zhou raised his performance so him lasting on P3 wasn't surprising result anymore.
I'm sure we will watch a good race tomorrow. If the weather is like this again, interesting results may occur. Will Sainz be able to maintain the lead or will we see another Verstappen victory? It's going to be very exciting.

This is practice, there are rarely any teams showing their real power during these periods, they will of course end up doing something as low as possible, and just test the systems. They end up adjusting everything during these periods so that they would not get penalty for changing it later on. This is known by any F1 really, the results of practice means literally nothing, absolutely nothing at all.

I believe that it is going to be probably another boring max win. I am not complaining, we had 7-8 years of Mercedes domination, so it is cool to at least see some other teams do well for a change, and I am guessing that even with the changes, the bouncing is still there for Mercedes hence why they will not be great.

I would not underestimate Sainz,I think he has had enough of being shadowed in almost every race by Leclerc except the last one where he in some moments even thought of fighting for victory.I think that has boosted his morale and  seeing him at the top spot today I would not be surprised.

In this track I would say that if Redbull showed their true performance yesterday (which I highly doubt) it means Ferrari should be easily on pole,but we have a question to answer in the official qualifying and that is,what is the true pace of the Redbull team,if they will really have that massive upgrade working I think then it is game over for the whole F1 season as most probably Max will dominate it.

Aprilia manufacturers also take advantage of the privileges they get in MotoGP to develop the tools they need and also the engines to be competitive, so the results are starting to show now that Aprilia is already a World Title challenger in MotoGP and that's what Aprilia wants. And that is clearly not wanted by other riders like Fabio because he is also trying to defend his title this season.

First the weather conditions seemed bad for Saturday only but now it is the same for Sunday too. If this comes true then this race week can be really interesting.    Hamilton has been really good when it has rained so far. Maybe we can see him doing more than being on the podium. But for now if I'm to talk realistically, a Ferrari or Red Bull driver would win this race. Sainz seems good for now but I don't expect him to get past Leclerc tomorrow. We can see a good fight between Verstappen and Leclerc for the win.

According to Google, there is a good chance to have a wet race.



Source: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=meteo+silverstone


I think this is the last call for Ferrari.

I also think that Redbull just didn't give it their best performance,they usually didn't care in the last couple of races in the free practice session but they have been consistent in winning all the six last races.I don't know if Mercedes are gaining performance as they were in the same performance as in Canada but tomorrow the official qualifying session will show us the true performance of the cars.Most likely with Sainz showing the potential of Ferrari it will be one of the Ferraris on pole,maybe Redbull will show their true performance in qualifying but I doubt they will gain what it takes to be on pole.

After some changes in the rules Mercedes also have found an opportunity to improve their car more. It seems like they have started to make progress already but I still don't want to be prejudiced by just looking at the FP2 results. We are going to find out the real deal tomorrow in qualifying session. Silverstone is a meaningful track for Hamilton and Russell both but it is more special for Hamilton of course. He would like to finish the race in top 3 at worst but it would still be difficult for him even if the car becomes better in this race.

It may flatter Merc a bit, as it's a very smooth track, so will alleviate the bouncing and mean they can run lower, closer to their optimal window... and the track also lacks the slow corners that have been a problem for them. But having said that, they may have made a step forward, yes.

And yes, RB remain the favourites and the ones to beat. Max will take some stopping. Leclerc needs a run of victories to get any chance back.

RBR was down on power in "safety mode".

The track should be not so bad for overtaking with this new car, as often happens Mercedes is close to the top on Friday.

They are gaining performance.

^  Yeah but it doesn't really mean anything considering the track conditions.  I had FP1 on but didn't really watch it.  I just couldn't get my eyes off the market.  Lolol.  I feel like an 8k red candle down is gonna happen anytime now causing mass panic.  I don't think there's real panic happening yet.

Anyway here are the results for FP2.  Better track conditions this time.

2022 F1 Brititsh GP FP2 Results

1   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m28.942s
2   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m29.105s
3   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m29.118s
4   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m29.149s
5   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m29.404s
6   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m29.695s
7   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m29.753s
8   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m29.799s
9   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m29.902s
10   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m29.942s
11   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m30.000s
12   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m30.238s
13   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m30.263s
14   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m30.271s
15   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m30.335s
16   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m30.338s
17   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m30.480s
18   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m30.510s
19   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m30.609s
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m31.326s

It is nice to see an Alfa Romeo on top of the standings no matter the circumstances,this first free practice session doesn't show us anything to see before placing our bets because most drivers didn't even bother to try at least a lap in the rain.Hopefully this will change in the second and third free practice so we can have some information,especially I am waiting to see Redbull if that promised massive upgrade is working or not but none of the Redbull drivers did a lap out in this first section so hopefully they will do in the upcoming one.

Was raining today, not so many cars was in the track in the 1st hour.

these the results.

1   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m42.249s
2   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m42.781s
3   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m42.967s
4   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m43.801s
5   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m43.895s
6   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m46.171s
7   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m48.161s
8   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m51.243s
9   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m51.373s
10   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m59.168s
11   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   No Time Set
12   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   No Time Set
13   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   No Time Set
14   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   No Time Set
15   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   No Time Set
16   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   No Time Set
17   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   No Time Set
18   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   No Time Set
19   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   No Time Set
20   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   No Time Set

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1006925/1/f1-2022-british-grand-prix-free-practice-results-1

We have left the first practice session behind by the way but the half of the drivers didn't even have any time recorded. The first three drivers were like Bottas-Hamilton-Sainz. We can't have a clear opinion from a session like this of course. It is expected to rain tomorrow also and I started to think whether Hamilton who is the master of rainy weathers would be able to do something unexpected in qualifying. But I still don't think that the car would let him do that.

Maybe all the teams, but not all the drivers. Entirely unsurprisingly, Max Verstappen has come out on the side of Nelson Piquet. Who'd have thought that would happen?  
Apparently it was all taken out of context, Piquet is great, not a racist at all, he just used a wrong word. Poor, misunderstood Piquet.  

"I’ve spent a bit of time with Nelson, I think more than the average person in general, and he’s definitely not a racist. He’s actually a really nice and relaxed guy, and I’m pretty sure that also the statement he released, I think you can see the word in two ways. But I think it’s still better not to use it."

Not that Piquet has any history of this sort of stuff at all... the stuff back in the 80s about complaining Mansell's wife is ugly, and Senna is gay, etc.
But on the other hand, you can see why he gets on so well with the Verstappen family... Max's prospective father-in-law may be a racist bigot, but Kelly Piquet's prospective father-in-law was arrested for attempted murder. I don't know what a family dinner would look like... probably a load of pointy white hats.