Now it is official (even after the official cancellation of MotoGP not to race at the Kymiring 2022) the owners of the Kymiring are insolvent. So there will be also no Formula 1 race at the Kymiring in the future. When the MotoGP was cancelled, it already appeared that the owner was insolvent, nothing had been built for a long time and it was impossible to complete the project by the time of the MotoGP.
It's actually a shame, but the operators have overstretched themselves enormously or the money has simply seeped away.
https://www.speedweek.com/motogp/news/194562/KymiRing-Die-Besitzer-sind-jetzt-zahlungsunfaehig.html
https://www.speedweek.com/formel1/news/194594/KymiRing-Traum-vom-Formel-1-GP-ist-geplatzt.html
Topic: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... - page 248. (Read 141688 times)
July 01, 2022, 05:23:40 AM
July 01, 2022, 05:00:19 AM
The only MotoGP rider who always finishes in the points zone is Aleix Espargaro of the Aprilia factory, meaning he has never crashed in the first half of the season except for two incidents he didn't expect such as in Catalunya and Assen. If only Aleix Espargaro could manage to finish second in the Catalunya race (without a blunder incident) and be able to win at Assen (without a collision incident), then the number of points would be the same as Fabio.
Aleix Espargaro is the only driver who has been most consistent in this half of the season, and the events in Assen and Catalunya are things that I think are very unfortunate but other than that the possibility of Aleix Espargaro becoming world champion is very big this time, the Aprilia Bike is also very supportive, the factory team Italy is very developed this season. July 01, 2022, 04:43:40 AM
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The only MotoGP rider who always finishes in the points zone is Aleix Espargaro of the Aprilia factory, meaning he has never crashed in the first half of the season except for two incidents he didn't expect such as in Catalunya and Assen. If only Aleix Espargaro could manage to finish second in the Catalunya race (without a blunder incident) and be able to win at Assen (without a collision incident), then the number of points would be the same as Fabio.
July 01, 2022, 04:17:00 AM
Silverstone will definitely be a high point of the season. It's a very prestigious track and winning here means a lot for every driver. I think Williams is doing something special, I am not sure what they are doing but they said that they are coming with basically a brand new version of their car, which means that there is a chance they could be a lot faster. They say that it's close to 1 second faster on qualy pace, and that is of course amazing for the regular race as well.
Qualy is a bit different since you usually race with fresh tires for a lap or two, and race would see you on tires that would run down. But I think they could actually have a hope to get points. I am considering to bet "williams to get points" if I can find that anywhere.
Qualy is a bit different since you usually race with fresh tires for a lap or two, and race would see you on tires that would run down. But I think they could actually have a hope to get points. I am considering to bet "williams to get points" if I can find that anywhere.
If they are one second faster for real then it would be very nice to see them through the race and I think if they manage to get a consistent of 1 second faster every lap compared to their old car then it is a sure thing that they will end up in the points.They ended up a few times already during this year if I am not mistaken because I see they have points in the constructor Championship.It would be nice to see Williams improve after so many years of them failing miserably to be where they belong,to the top fight.
As for that bet you ask I didn't find any offering from betting companies as of yet.
June 30, 2022, 08:48:26 PM
That bend 5 makes him desperate, I don't know how he feels when crashing in the same place. Quartararo uses a different strategy for this time, maybe he wants to improve but it's not perfect until he can't overtake Espargaro and fail. But he is still on top with 172 points, in the 2nd is Espargaro with 151 points (for 4th position)
He looked like he wanted to overtake Espargaro immediately. Maybe he realized if he was far enough behind he'd be in more trouble. But it seems their impatience made him careless. He should have been more experienced and more patient. Not getting points is very detrimental. The point difference is getting closer. When I fell the second I was actually surprised, because the place is the same. I don't know why it repeats itself, It seems he was too tilted and the tire grip was lost. The next series at Silverstone in August looks like we have a 2 week gap.
Wait, what? A penalty? I'm only now getting around to watching the race, I should have stayed away from this thread until I finished. I just saw Quartararo's second fall. Second fall! That was painful to watch. What the hell was he doing out there anyway? It was obvious he wasn't getting back in the race, probably still shaken from that first fall and his insistence to stay out there was only putting himself in danger.
I'm off to read about the penalty.
ETA:
The penalty was for being too aggressive when attempting to pass Aleix Espargaró, and he'll have to take a long lap at Silverstone this weekend.
June 30, 2022, 04:41:28 PM
Silverstone will definitely be a high point of the season. It's a very prestigious track and winning here means a lot for every driver. I think Williams is doing something special, I am not sure what they are doing but they said that they are coming with basically a brand new version of their car, which means that there is a chance they could be a lot faster. They say that it's close to 1 second faster on qualy pace, and that is of course amazing for the regular race as well.
Qualy is a bit different since you usually race with fresh tires for a lap or two, and race would see you on tires that would run down. But I think they could actually have a hope to get points. I am considering to bet "williams to get points" if I can find that anywhere.
Qualy is a bit different since you usually race with fresh tires for a lap or two, and race would see you on tires that would run down. But I think they could actually have a hope to get points. I am considering to bet "williams to get points" if I can find that anywhere.
June 30, 2022, 04:10:49 PM
Hamilton doesn't stand a chance of winning a stage in the normal way. And I mean we don't see any dropouts. If we don't see any dropouts, then someone from Red Bull or Ferrari will just win the race. But, we've seen crazy things happen. I don't think Hamilton will be very happy all of a sudden if he wins another race. Hamilton wants to compete for the championship every year, and this year he doesn't even make the podium. It is difficult to estimate what the target is for Mercedes this year. It is best for them to focus on the coming season. this season is lost.
June 30, 2022, 03:59:21 PM
Only a rumor for now but we are going to remove the heating blanket from tires in 2 years.
This will be a huge change since this car with cold tires are like us when we drive in the snow.
A car with better heating can easily gain 10 seconds in 1 lap.
This will be a huge change since this car with cold tires are like us when we drive in the snow.
A car with better heating can easily gain 10 seconds in 1 lap.
June 30, 2022, 02:58:31 PM
I also agree that is strange but most probably the bookies put him third to qualify on pole beside the two favorites because he is racing at home just as is Russell but the bookies think he will be much more motivated to deliver really good results after he has not said anything about the incident with Nelson Picquet and Juri Vips which called him the N-word (nigga) during a live broadcast in a TV,the bookies probably think he will go beyond his capabilities and deliver that good result,he probably feels motivated more than anyone else during this race and that is why the bookies put him third.
Of course all F1 and all the race teams distanced themselves immediately from the racist words and showed 100% support for Hamilton.
I also think that these odds for Hamilton win is because of home race factor. I just want to correct you that Vips didn't called Hamilton nigga. It happened while he was gaming and streaming it on Twitch. And I think that reaction against him was too harsh. Terminate contract just because of one bad word which wasn't even directed against any specific person. While Verstappen calls Stroll mongol and there is zero reaction after it. Of course all F1 and all the race teams distanced themselves immediately from the racist words and showed 100% support for Hamilton.
June 30, 2022, 07:47:30 AM
Why Honda and Yamaha have been left behind in MotoGP's new era
OPINION: The once all-conquering Japanese manufacturers are going through a difficult period in MotoGP this season. With Suzuki quitting, Honda struggling to get near the podium and Yamaha only enjoying success courtesy of Fabio Quartararo, Japanese manufacturers have been left in the dust by their European counterparts.
https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/why-honda-and-yamaha-have-been-left-behind-in-motogps-new-era/10329513/
From this opinion, I think that other manufacturers besides Japan in the European part have experienced very rapid development so that they (Ducati, Aprilia, and KTM) are starting to look competitive and owners of independent teams or satellite teams will definitely prefer European manufacturers over Japan at this time.
That's my opinion, what about you guys?
OPINION: The once all-conquering Japanese manufacturers are going through a difficult period in MotoGP this season. With Suzuki quitting, Honda struggling to get near the podium and Yamaha only enjoying success courtesy of Fabio Quartararo, Japanese manufacturers have been left in the dust by their European counterparts.
https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/why-honda-and-yamaha-have-been-left-behind-in-motogps-new-era/10329513/
From this opinion, I think that other manufacturers besides Japan in the European part have experienced very rapid development so that they (Ducati, Aprilia, and KTM) are starting to look competitive and owners of independent teams or satellite teams will definitely prefer European manufacturers over Japan at this time.
That's my opinion, what about you guys?
June 30, 2022, 01:46:14 AM
Can't wait for race in Silverstone. I was sure that they will have sprint race there like last year, but now I see that we will have it next week in Austria.
Last year innSilverstone we had one of the biggest season contraversies with Hamilton and Verstappen crash. Now Verstappen and Leclerc is clearly favoured by bookmakers, but strangely, Hamilton goes 3rd, above Perez and Russel, what is a bit strange IMO.
Last year innSilverstone we had one of the biggest season contraversies with Hamilton and Verstappen crash. Now Verstappen and Leclerc is clearly favoured by bookmakers, but strangely, Hamilton goes 3rd, above Perez and Russel, what is a bit strange IMO.
I also agree that is strange but most probably the bookies put him third to qualify on pole beside the two favorites because he is racing at home just as is Russell but the bookies think he will be much more motivated to deliver really good results after he has not said anything about the incident with Nelson Picquet and Juri Vips which called him the N-word (nigga) during a live broadcast in a TV,the bookies probably think he will go beyond his capabilities and deliver that good result,he probably feels motivated more than anyone else during this race and that is why the bookies put him third.
Of course all F1 and all the race teams distanced themselves immediately from the racist words and showed 100% support for Hamilton.
June 29, 2022, 02:55:31 PM
Can't wait for race in Silverstone. I was sure that they will have sprint race there like last year, but now I see that we will have it next week in Austria.
Last year innSilverstone we had one of the biggest season contraversies with Hamilton and Verstappen crash. Now Verstappen and Leclerc is clearly favoured by bookmakers, but strangely, Hamilton goes 3rd, above Perez and Russel, what is a bit strange IMO.
Last year innSilverstone we had one of the biggest season contraversies with Hamilton and Verstappen crash. Now Verstappen and Leclerc is clearly favoured by bookmakers, but strangely, Hamilton goes 3rd, above Perez and Russel, what is a bit strange IMO.
June 29, 2022, 09:25:54 AM
A huge upgrade for RBR is expected this week.
Binotto is saying RBR will lose 5kg weight (means 3/10 for lap)
Binotto is saying RBR will lose 5kg weight (means 3/10 for lap)
It's really hard to trust Binotto or anybody, don't you think? On the other hand wait for Christian Horner to dent it then say something about Ferrari's upgrades to take the pressure away from themselves. Lol. It seems like these teams mostly just want to sand bag and hide their real pace til around FP3.
And the books have Leclerc at 1.85 to get pole at quali, Max at 2.50.
Anyway, here's the schedule.
2022 F1 British GP Schedule
Track: Silverstone Circuit
July 1: Free Practice 1 - 13:00 - 14:00
July 1: Free Practice 2 - 16:00 - 17:00
July 2: Free Practice 3 - 12:00 - 13:00
July 2: Qualification - 15:00 - 16:00
July 3: Race - 15:00 - 17:00
June 29, 2022, 06:03:52 AM
The Silverstone GP is getting close. It is one of the special tracks in F1 in my opinion. In the last eight years Lewis Hamilton had an overwhelming performance like winning the GP seven times. Sebastian Vettel was able to win once in 2018 with his SF71H. However it looks like this dominance of Hamilton is going to end as long as Mercedes team are in this problematic condition. For the upcoming race for example, I see no chance for Hamilton to win in normal conditions. The closest drivers to win this race are Verstappen and Leclerc to me.
June 29, 2022, 04:38:54 AM
You don't really need to moan about it now, Aleix's near crash probably cost him the win and he had to make up several seconds, the longlap penalty costs 1 or 2 seconds at most, so I think the penalty is appropriate. So Yamaha and Fabio should just forget about it and show a good performance/response at Silverstone.
I think it's also very clear that when Fabio was able to leave his opponent a few seconds behind in the race before Assen, it made a penalty like a long lap not a big influence for Fabio. I also don't understand why Fabio is starting to complain about it now, but if he can prove himself to be the best at Silverstone after this break, then he will win another race there too. June 29, 2022, 04:24:33 AM
A huge upgrade for RBR is expected this week.
Binotto is saying RBR will lose 5kg weight (means 3/10 for lap)
Binotto is saying RBR will lose 5kg weight (means 3/10 for lap)
That is going to be trouble for every other team if it happens to be true.I always check all the official pages of all the F1 teams including the biggest one F1 itself and I haven't read any news like that.The major topic has been the racist language Nelson Piquet and Juri Vips that have used toward Lewis Hamilton,all the teams immediately stood by Lewis being 100% right and also Juri Vips is terminated from continuing to be a Redbull test driver just because this incident.
Back on the Silverstone race I think the Free practices as always will show us the true behavior and performance of the cars for the track and then we can see if the upgrade really was huge or not.
June 29, 2022, 03:05:35 AM
I think he did Espargaro a disservice, the race commission knows better about that. I also agree with this punishment, he looks imposing, then dangerous and finally detrimental. I don't think the tire problem was the main factor, it was clear he lost stability because he was too close to the asphalt. Then he cut Espargaro's path and it was very dangerous. Regarding appeals, maybe that's their right, but indeed a penalty will make Quartararo much more difficult. But if he is able to win in the next series with a penalty it will make him more confident.
Exactly, as I also think there was almost no chance to complete the overtaking manoeuvre successfully. And the one second he loses in the long lap is very little, you can easily make up for that.
A huge upgrade for RBR is expected this week.
Binotto is saying RBR will lose 5kg weight (means 3/10 for lap)
Binotto is saying RBR will lose 5kg weight (means 3/10 for lap)
So 5kg would be very very much, that would give RedBull a big advantage and put Ferrari under further pressure. But where should the 5kg be cut? Is there any further information on this?
June 29, 2022, 01:27:05 AM
I think he did Espargaro a disservice, the race commission knows better about that. I also agree with this punishment, he looks imposing, then dangerous and finally detrimental. I don't think the tire problem was the main factor, it was clear he lost stability because he was too close to the asphalt. Then he cut Espargaro's path and it was very dangerous. Regarding appeals, maybe that's their right, but indeed a penalty will make Quartararo much more difficult. But if he is able to win in the next series with a penalty it will make him more confident.
By the rules it is acceptable for Quartararo because he tries to overtake to get a good position, but it is a pity that it is very detrimental to Espargaro who in his expectation is still able to win there with a fierce duel in the race. This was very evident when Espargaro dropped to 15th position and fought hard to get 4th place, which means if that incident had not happened to Espargaro, he would have been able to get the win.But some people still compare it to the incident of Nakagami who fell by himself at the first corner of Catalunya where it also harmed Bagnaia and Rins. And I think that's a very different matter to the Quartararo incident.
June 28, 2022, 05:09:12 PM
The Aston Martin team made the first major update to the Barcelona circuit this year and the concept of the car has changed. Now they are preparing for the new update to speed up the vehicle even more. The Silverstone race was chosen for these updates. Let's see if the Aston Martin team can survive the upgrades and stay competitive. I'm looking forward to the Aston Martin update on the Silverstone race.
June 28, 2022, 04:34:16 PM
A huge upgrade for RBR is expected this week.
Binotto is saying RBR will lose 5kg weight (means 3/10 for lap)
Binotto is saying RBR will lose 5kg weight (means 3/10 for lap)
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