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I guess I got fooled too by Ferrari hyping it to be their year, and when I saw their new car I was very confident that they would win the title, but at this stage it looks difficult. Also I feel that Ferrari needs to to do a deep introspection as to why they keep losing, and implement drastic changes to arrest this losing pattern.

I think a lot of people got fooled by Ferrari, and if I am not mistaken, last year also there was a lot of nostalgic sentimental news about Schumacher and then yeah, the promises, the talents, everything was supposed to combine well.

But the team/engineers just really let LeClerc down.

Not falling for winning margin +10 seconds. This is not Baku

Thank you for giving your opinion, but on this occasion I will reveal a few very impressive facts where Marc Marquez, who has been able to win 11 races at the Sachsenring, was using a Honda motorcycle (except in 2010 and 2011 when he was still in Moto2) which at that time was already using the engine. the 90 degree V4 configuration is not an inline engine. And before Marc Marquez was in the MotoGP class, Dani Pedrosa who also came from the Repsol Honda team had won races there 4 times with Honda machines (2007, 2010, 2011, and 2012) as well as Valentino Rossi who was only able to win 4 times there and one of them was with a Honda engine (2002) the rest with a Yamaha 3 times and Max Biaggi with Sete Gibernau also won there 1 time with a Honda engine.

This means that the layout of the Sachsenring circuit has always been very friendly with Honda engines, because until now Honda is a manufacturer that has won a lot of races there since 2002. Although the German circuit does not have long straights like other circuits and also does not demand much power for each manufacturer so the potential for Ducati to utilize the power there is very small, although on the other hand Suzuki and Yamaha seem to be benefiting for now.


Since when did Casey Stoner return to MotoGP again after retiring at the end of 2012
I haven't even seen Casey Stoner after the 2012 MotoGP season or since the 2013 season started, so I need to know the news on this and what manufacturer is he currently in?
Looks like you need the latest update on MotoGP for now so you don't make the wrong predictions for this week.

Ferrari is risking penalties after the past race, depending on which pieces they can recover or not.

Next Gp in 3 days in Canada.

Yeah but Max is 34 points ahead, even though he didn't finish two races, that's the difference. I mean Charles didn't either, but he is not leading with 34 points. So they finished same amount of races, and yet when Max races, aside from one monaco (which he still was ahead of charles) he won all of them. That is the difference, that is what I am talking about.

Imagine if charles still missing 2, and Max not missing any races, he would have gotten at least another 30 points or so from those races, probably more. Right now, dude is literally above one whole race ahead, he could DNF and charles could win and Max would still be first. That is the big difference.

Sadly he’ll miss Sachsenring. He won there 11 years in a row. Marc is now struggling with his condition on his arm. He will be out till 2023. The future is very unsure for Marc as his style relied on exceptional reflexes and shoulder strength more than almost anyone in motogp history. Aside Marc, Casey Stoner is my best bet to win the race this weekend. He is an exceptional rider. And also because Stoner probably edges Marc in terms of pure speed and raw talent. Fabio Quartararo is another great rider that's fun to watch. Let's see how it goes.

It's cos Leclerc hasn't finished a couple of races himself.  One in Spain and the other just happened at Azerbaijan...

And it looks like Leclerc might really have a power unit change and he could get at least a 10 grid penalty.  The books have gotten a lot sharper.  Leclerc to get pole at quali is at 1.65 and Verstappen to win the race is at 1.75.

No value in this market imho.  Will the winning margin be more than 10 seconds?  That one is at 2.35.

For me, the track layout at the Sachsenring is not a Honda layout but rather a row engine layout. The Sachsenring is Marc's favourite track (like Austin) and he feels very comfortable there. For me, this weekend Fabio is the favourite there, the layout speaks for Yamaha and Suzuki. But you should never underestimate Ducati, no matter where they race, like Fabio and Yamaha, but the other Yamaha riders won't have a chance of a podium, even if I would wish it for Morbidelli.

This week there will be another MotoGP race at the Sachsenring circuit in Germany where Marc Marquez has won 11 races there from 2010 to 2021 last year.
So for this year, who will win the race there, considering that there has been no confirmation from Honda specifically about Marc Marquez who will race there.
And if it's true that Marc Marquez will not race there this year, try to predict who has more potential to win the race there this weekend ?

The sad thing is, its always something different. Like I get it, maybe it was the engine this time around, but last time it was the pitstop being wrong, and before that it was something else, its always a "mishap" that ferrari lives through and causes them to lose the race they should have won. I am sick and tired of watching this, glad that I like Max otherwise this would have been a terrible season. I would prefer Charles to win his first title, but I am fine with Max as well so its cool. But at least, make it a bit more competitive you know? I am fine with charles being second on all races and close races, but its not even liek that, its always something wrong on every race.

Max failed to finish 2 races this year, and he still has 34 points lead. He had only one race in monaco where he didn't finish first, in which he was third, and aside from that he always finished first on all races he saw the flag.

I am guessing that Ferrari should reconsider their strategy, not that they have zero chance to win it this year, but they definitely do not look that great anymore neither. Even with a better car, which it was for a while, they still failed to win, and that shows so much for them. Hell RBR even had a terrible pitstop to give them a chance, and yet they still failed. I am sorry but if you can't win in these circumstances, then maybe it is not meant to be.

Yup...  I hope to see a Ferrari come back tho, at least for Leclerc's sake.  He's a good guy and he deserves to win races.  But the  team has disappointed him again and again this season.  So yeah, it will be Canadian GP next.  Let's see what these guys can do.  

The books now have a Red Bull 1 and 2 with Verstappen at 1.85 and Perez at 3.80.  Leclerc is at 4.20.  I guess there's an engine change and a penalty expected for Leclerc?  I'd take him to win quali.  Odds not out yet tho.

Just wait and see, the fault at Ferrari must be found, 3 of the 4 drivetrain damages yesterday looked quite similar, at Sainz it sounded like a gearbox problem.

Ferrari should not be written off, in Silverstone they are supposed to get new power unit updates and the season is still long, at the moment RedBull has the fastest and most reliable car, but that was quite different at the beginning of the season, when Ferrari had that.

For sure things do not look bright for Ferrari with a penalty on the horizon but they got a fast car apparently and we are heading at Canada a super fast track which I think will favor heavily the Redbulls and another win of Redbull at this track would tremendously impact in a negative way Leclerc and Ferrari as they will see themselves let's say 50 points behind in the driver Championship and much more in the Constructors Championship.I don't know how Ferrari can win the pole position in Canada unless the drivers at Redbull screw up by a really large amount.

This track is clearly against Ferrari without taking into consideration the problem with the power unit which can also be a problem in a super fast track like this one with a lot of straights.

Yes:
Ferrari have a fast car.
Mercedes have a reliable car.
Red Bull have a fast and reliable car.

It does look increasingly like Verstappen will win the title. Ferrari are losing points at an incredible rate. Merc are gaining point by at least finishing the races, but have zero chance of catching RB.
It must be difficult being Leclerc at the moment, or even Sainz who has certainly had his own share of bad luck.

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It looked good for Ferrari at the beginning and the early pit stop, but in the end they lost 2/3 of the power units, which is a bit embarrassing. At the beginning of the season it looked like the Ferrari was very reliable and the Red Bull was vulnerable, but now it looks like Ferrari will be the first team to get a power unit penalty.

The Mercedes is not very fast and the bouncing (at least with Hamilton) is crazy, but the cars are very very reliable, but for the title they are just too slow.

Oh, yes, the beginning of the season has raised great hopes in the hearts of Ferrari fans and the coveted Formula 1 winner's title seems to have already loomed, but problems with the car deprive them of all this. Leclerc said after the race that it hurt a lot and that they had to make sure it didn't happen again. The most important thing is that the same reliability problems also have the Ferrari client teams that use their engines and the Alfa Romeo racer and the Haas racer have also gone off the track. The departure of Carlos Sainz from the track may finally exclude the rider from contenders for the title. And because of the descent of Leclerc, now another Red Bull driver in the person of Sergio Perez has come out in second place in the championship.

Horrible day for Ferrari... Red Bull had the same engine problems at the beginning of the season but they figured it out later on. It looks like it is time for Ferrari to struggle with these problems. And the longer time they take to solve, the worse for them. Because Red Bull drivers continue to get very important points and this causes the gap between them to be opened very highly. Leclerc is doing his best to become the champion this season but the car is not letting him do so for now.