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It may flatter Merc a bit, as it's a very smooth track, so will alleviate the bouncing and mean they can run lower, closer to their optimal window... and the track also lacks the slow corners that have been a problem for them. But having said that, they may have made a step forward, yes.

And yes, RB remain the favourites and the ones to beat. Max will take some stopping. Leclerc needs a run of victories to get any chance back.

RBR was down on power in "safety mode".

The track should be not so bad for overtaking with this new car, as often happens Mercedes is close to the top on Friday.

They are gaining performance.

^  Yeah but it doesn't really mean anything considering the track conditions.  I had FP1 on but didn't really watch it.  I just couldn't get my eyes off the market.  Lolol.  I feel like an 8k red candle down is gonna happen anytime now causing mass panic.  I don't think there's real panic happening yet.

Anyway here are the results for FP2.  Better track conditions this time.

2022 F1 Brititsh GP FP2 Results

1   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m28.942s
2   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m29.105s
3   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m29.118s
4   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m29.149s
5   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m29.404s
6   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m29.695s
7   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m29.753s
8   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m29.799s
9   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m29.902s
10   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m29.942s
11   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m30.000s
12   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m30.238s
13   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m30.263s
14   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m30.271s
15   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m30.335s
16   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m30.338s
17   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m30.480s
18   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m30.510s
19   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m30.609s
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m31.326s

It is nice to see an Alfa Romeo on top of the standings no matter the circumstances,this first free practice session doesn't show us anything to see before placing our bets because most drivers didn't even bother to try at least a lap in the rain.Hopefully this will change in the second and third free practice so we can have some information,especially I am waiting to see Redbull if that promised massive upgrade is working or not but none of the Redbull drivers did a lap out in this first section so hopefully they will do in the upcoming one.

Was raining today, not so many cars was in the track in the 1st hour.

these the results.

1   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m42.249s
2   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m42.781s
3   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m42.967s
4   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m43.801s
5   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m43.895s
6   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m46.171s
7   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m48.161s
8   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m51.243s
9   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m51.373s
10   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m59.168s
11   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   No Time Set
12   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   No Time Set
13   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   No Time Set
14   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   No Time Set
15   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   No Time Set
16   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   No Time Set
17   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   No Time Set
18   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   No Time Set
19   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   No Time Set
20   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   No Time Set

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1006925/1/f1-2022-british-grand-prix-free-practice-results-1

We have left the first practice session behind by the way but the half of the drivers didn't even have any time recorded. The first three drivers were like Bottas-Hamilton-Sainz. We can't have a clear opinion from a session like this of course. It is expected to rain tomorrow also and I started to think whether Hamilton who is the master of rainy weathers would be able to do something unexpected in qualifying. But I still don't think that the car would let him do that.

Maybe all the teams, but not all the drivers. Entirely unsurprisingly, Max Verstappen has come out on the side of Nelson Piquet. Who'd have thought that would happen?  
Apparently it was all taken out of context, Piquet is great, not a racist at all, he just used a wrong word. Poor, misunderstood Piquet.  

"I’ve spent a bit of time with Nelson, I think more than the average person in general, and he’s definitely not a racist. He’s actually a really nice and relaxed guy, and I’m pretty sure that also the statement he released, I think you can see the word in two ways. But I think it’s still better not to use it."

Not that Piquet has any history of this sort of stuff at all... the stuff back in the 80s about complaining Mansell's wife is ugly, and Senna is gay, etc.
But on the other hand, you can see why he gets on so well with the Verstappen family... Max's prospective father-in-law may be a racist bigot, but Kelly Piquet's prospective father-in-law was arrested for attempted murder. I don't know what a family dinner would look like... probably a load of pointy white hats.

Now it is official (even after the official cancellation of MotoGP not to race at the Kymiring 2022) the owners of the Kymiring are insolvent. So there will be also no Formula 1 race at the Kymiring in the future. When the MotoGP was cancelled, it already appeared that the owner was insolvent, nothing had been built for a long time and it was impossible to complete the project by the time of the MotoGP.

It's actually a shame, but the operators have overstretched themselves enormously or the money has simply seeped away.

https://www.speedweek.com/motogp/news/194562/KymiRing-Die-Besitzer-sind-jetzt-zahlungsunfaehig.html
https://www.speedweek.com/formel1/news/194594/KymiRing-Traum-vom-Formel-1-GP-ist-geplatzt.html

Aleix Espargaro is the only driver who has been most consistent in this half of the season, and the events in Assen and Catalunya are things that I think are very unfortunate but other than that the possibility of Aleix Espargaro becoming world champion is very big this time, the Aprilia Bike is also very supportive, the factory team Italy is very developed this season.

Image: crashnet_motogp

The only MotoGP rider who always finishes in the points zone is Aleix Espargaro of the Aprilia factory, meaning he has never crashed in the first half of the season except for two incidents he didn't expect such as in Catalunya and Assen. If only Aleix Espargaro could manage to finish second in the Catalunya race (without a blunder incident) and be able to win at Assen (without a collision incident), then the number of points would be the same as Fabio.

If they are one second faster for real then it would be very nice to see them through the race and I think if they manage to get a consistent of 1 second faster every lap compared to their old car then it is a sure thing that they will end up in the points.They ended up a few times already during this year if I am not mistaken because I see they have points in the constructor Championship.It would be nice to see Williams improve after so many years of them failing miserably to be where they belong,to the top fight.

As for that bet you ask I didn't find any offering from betting companies as of yet.

Wait, what?  A penalty?  I'm only now getting around to watching the race, I should have stayed away from this thread until I finished.  I just saw Quartararo's second fall.  Second fall!  That was painful to watch.  What the hell was he doing out there anyway?  It was obvious he wasn't getting back in the race, probably still shaken from that first fall and his insistence to stay out there was only putting himself in danger.

I'm off to read about the penalty.

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ETA:
The penalty was for being too aggressive when attempting to pass Aleix Espargaró, and he'll have to take a long lap at Silverstone this weekend.

Silverstone will definitely be a high point of the season. It's a very prestigious track and winning here means a lot for every driver. I think Williams is doing something special, I am not sure what they are doing but they said that they are coming with basically a brand new version of their car, which means that there is a chance they could be a lot faster. They say that it's close to 1 second faster on qualy pace, and that is of course amazing for the regular race as well.

Qualy is a bit different since you usually race with fresh tires for a lap or two, and race would see you on tires that would run down. But I think they could actually have a hope to get points. I am considering to bet "williams to get points" if I can find that anywhere.

Hamilton doesn't stand a chance of winning a stage in the normal way. And I mean we don't see any dropouts. If we don't see any dropouts, then someone from Red Bull or Ferrari will just win the race. But, we've seen crazy things happen. I don't think Hamilton will be very happy all of a sudden if he wins another race. Hamilton wants to compete for the championship every year, and this year he doesn't even make the podium. It is difficult to estimate what the target is for Mercedes this year. It is best for them to focus on the coming season. this season is lost.

Only a rumor for now but we are going to remove the heating blanket from tires in 2 years.

This will be a huge change since this car with cold tires are like us when we drive in the snow.

A car with better heating can easily gain 10 seconds in 1 lap.

I also think that these odds for Hamilton win is because of home race factor. I just want to correct you that Vips didn't called Hamilton nigga. It happened while he was gaming and streaming it on Twitch. And I think that reaction against him was too harsh. Terminate contract just because of one bad word which wasn't even directed against any specific person. While Verstappen calls Stroll mongol and there is zero reaction after it.

Why Honda and Yamaha have been left behind in MotoGP's new era

OPINION: The once all-conquering Japanese manufacturers are going through a difficult period in MotoGP this season. With Suzuki quitting, Honda struggling to get near the podium and Yamaha only enjoying success courtesy of Fabio Quartararo, Japanese manufacturers have been left in the dust by their European counterparts.

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/why-honda-and-yamaha-have-been-left-behind-in-motogps-new-era/10329513/

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From this opinion, I think that other manufacturers besides Japan in the European part have experienced very rapid development so that they (Ducati, Aprilia, and KTM) are starting to look competitive and owners of independent teams or satellite teams will definitely prefer European manufacturers over Japan at this time.
That's my opinion, what about you guys?

I also agree that is strange but most probably the bookies put him third to qualify on pole beside the two favorites because he is racing at home just as is Russell but the bookies think he will be much more motivated to deliver really good results after he has not said anything about the incident with Nelson Picquet and Juri Vips which called him the N-word (nigga) during a live broadcast in a TV,the bookies probably think he will go beyond his capabilities and deliver that good result,he probably feels motivated more than anyone else during this race and that is why the bookies put him third.

Of course all F1 and all the race teams distanced themselves immediately from the racist words and showed 100% support for Hamilton.

Can't wait for race in Silverstone. I was sure that they will have sprint race there like last year, but now I see that we will have it next week in Austria.
Last year innSilverstone we had one of the biggest season contraversies with Hamilton and Verstappen crash. Now Verstappen and Leclerc is clearly favoured by bookmakers, but strangely, Hamilton goes 3rd, above Perez and Russel, what is a bit strange IMO.

It's really hard to trust Binotto or anybody, don't you think?  On the other hand wait for Christian Horner to dent it then say something about Ferrari's upgrades to take the pressure away from themselves.  Lol.  It seems like these teams mostly just want to sand bag and hide their real pace til around FP3.

And the books have Leclerc at 1.85 to get pole at quali, Max at 2.50.

Anyway, here's the schedule.

2022 F1 British GP Schedule

Track:  Silverstone Circuit



July 1:  Free Practice 1 - 13:00 - 14:00
July 1:  Free Practice 2 - 16:00 - 17:00
July 2:  Free Practice 3 - 12:00 - 13:00
July 2:  Qualification -  15:00 - 16:00
July 3:  Race - 15:00 - 17:00