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Riccardo may join Aston Martin at the end of the season when Vettel will probably retire from Formula 1.

What do you think?
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JACK MILLER IS BACK IN THE RED BULL KTM ORANGE FOR MOTOGP™ 2023 AND 2024

Jack Miller will return to the Red Bull KTM Factory Racing family for the next two years. The Australian is reviving several previous alliances after he last starred on a KTM machine as runner-up to the Moto3™ world championship in 2014.

The 27-year-old lines-up next to Brad Binder and will run his ninth and tenth season in the premier class on the KTM RC16 after signing a contract which once again sees him in Red Bull KTM Factory Racing colours. Miller will reconnect with Francesco Guidotti after working with the current Red Bull KTM Factory Racing Team Manager for three of his eight years in MotoGP. Source: https://www.ktm.com/en-gb/racing/racing-news/jack-miller-back-in-red-bull-ktm-orange-for-2023-and-2024-motogp.html
Jack Miller was not able to give his best performance at the factory Ducati until they did not renew his contract at Ducati, I think it is a pity for Jack Miller who was not able to be a rider with many podium finishes even though he has used a very competitive factory Ducati bike..

but Jack Miller return to Red Bull KTM after a long time is not a bad thing, now the Orange manufacturer has started to develop well from year to year and with Jack experience in the MotoGP class it is possible for him to be able to provide many positive things for tim Red Bull KTM in the next season.
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JACK MILLER IS BACK IN THE RED BULL KTM ORANGE FOR MOTOGP™ 2023 AND 2024

Jack Miller will return to the Red Bull KTM Factory Racing family for the next two years. The Australian is reviving several previous alliances after he last starred on a KTM machine as runner-up to the Moto3™ world championship in 2014.

The 27-year-old lines-up next to Brad Binder and will run his ninth and tenth season in the premier class on the KTM RC16 after signing a contract which once again sees him in Red Bull KTM Factory Racing colours. Miller will reconnect with Francesco Guidotti after working with the current Red Bull KTM Factory Racing Team Manager for three of his eight years in MotoGP. Source: https://www.ktm.com/en-gb/racing/racing-news/jack-miller-back-in-red-bull-ktm-orange-for-2023-and-2024-motogp.html
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^  But remember, at Monaco Verstappen was worse than Perez at FP1, FP2, FP3, qualifying and the race.  Perez on the other hand has had decent results at Azerbaijan with having a couple of podiums when he was at Force India and on top of my head, a win last year with his current team.  So thinking about it, Perez could still the show again.

But then again Ferrari should be fighting back here.  And it was partly the wet track that messed up their weekend.  If it was  under dry conditions, Leclerc would've won it easy. 
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By the way there is not much time left for the next race in Azerbaijan. This is one of the beloved tracks by many people in Formula 1. I also like the track a lot and it is thankfully not as boring as the Monaco track too. I just want to see a tough competition among the drivers and many overtakes. The Monaco GP wasn't able to give that to us of course but the Azerbaijan GP can. My favourite driver to win the race here is Charles Leclerc. I expect him to take the pole position as well.

I think I'd expect the same pattern we are seeing for most of the season to continue... Leclerc takes pole with the fastest single-lap car, and then Verstappen wins the race with the fastest full-race-distance car. I expect Mercedes to struggle again, and be fighting for P5 or P6 at best, unless Sainz or Perez mess up - which has been known to happen in the past.

What RB and Ferrari really need is a strong second driver, so they can dominate the other team and force them on pit strategy... but Sainz and Perez aren't good enough.
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I think it is very natural that Nakagami did not get any sanctions for this incident because this was purely an accident not intentional or contact with other drivers so that this accident occurred. Nakagami lost his balance at the first corner, causing him to fall and hit two other drivers.
and unfortunately from this incident Alex Rins who got a slight injury to his arm that made him most likely to miss the Sachsenring race next June 19, I really regret if Rins is absent at this circuit, because the character of this circuit is very suitable for Rins' racing style which is very possible to he can perform optimally after getting bad results in the previous few races.
And it could be that if it's just a minor injury or fracture of the bone in his arm, it's very likely that Alex Rins can appear in the next race in Germany because considering this week there is a race break for MotoGP. So that Alex Rins can rest to recover his arm before the race takes place the following week.

I'm also against high penalties for racing accidents, but in Nakagami's case it's just that he's pushed Rins out of two races in a row with aggressive manoeuvres. A repeat offender could be given a light penalty, for example 3 places back on the grid for the next race. That wouldn't be a big penalty, but it would also be a way of saying that it doesn't OK what he do.
For this I completely agree with what you said because such a light punishment will also not harm Nakagami in the next race so there will not be much criticism for him from other people, considering this was an accident that cost two people and one of them was Alex Rins.
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If Sebastian Vettel was racing just for money, he would do everything he can not to lose his place in Ferrari. He had a quite big yearly salary at Ferrari as far as I can remember now. He must be earning 40 million dollars per year then. But now he is earning even less than the half of that money, 15 million dollars. He still wants to be a part of this sport by racing for another team. He is having big problems with the car at Aston Martin for now but he must be still enjoying his time in F1.
Vettel and many of those drivers who already have a lasting career in F1 already have money for the rest of their lives and also to deliver a good life for their children even after death.
I'm sure Vettel is no longer racing just for money at this stage he's in, he's racing because he couldn't find the same adrenaline rush in any other sport, he loves F1 and a team where he feels comfortable is much more important than the money.
But it has to be a team where he still has a chance to reach the podium.
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If Sebastian Vettel was racing just for money, he would do everything he can not to lose his place in Ferrari. He had a quite big yearly salary at Ferrari as far as I can remember now. He must be earning 40 million dollars per year then. But now he is earning even less than the half of that money, 15 million dollars. He still wants to be a part of this sport by racing for another team. He is having big problems with the car at Aston Martin for now but he must be still enjoying his time in F1.
The situation was embarrassing for Ferrari and Leclerc. If you can remember they were touching the car in almost every race. They could not be in the same team anymore, and they just fired him.
Oh, yes, the strongest was left in the team to improve the psychological climate Wink It is necessary to feel the difference and if for Ferrari 40 million wages is not such a significant amount, then for Aston Martin and 15 million are a significant amount, so the doubts of the team are quite understandable when there is a choice to put more money into the salary of a famous champion in the past or to put more money to strengthen their car. Especially when this famous champion in the past does not give the return that the team would like to see for this money, so such doubts are quite appropriate. By the way, Ferrari's situation with Leclerc also occurred largely due to the fact that Vettel no longer felt that former champion confidence.
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By the way there is not much time left for the next race in Azerbaijan. This is one of the beloved tracks by many people in Formula 1. I also like the track a lot and it is thankfully not as boring as the Monaco track too. I just want to see a tough competition among the drivers and many overtakes. The Monaco GP wasn't able to give that to us of course but the Azerbaijan GP can. My favourite driver to win the race here is Charles Leclerc. I expect him to take the pole position as well.
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I agree that it was mainly ferarri pit wall that screwed that race, it was obvious but in F1 that happens constantly and not a unique situation neither. I have to say there are some situations where we have seen mercedes screw up as well, like look at last years monaco and how they had to park the car last year? That is why I have to say that this isn't really a screw up by the team alone and that was a proof that they are terrible. It just shows that this one was their problem for that race, but next race they could do something marvelous and that would be awesome for them. We really do not know what will happen next, just because of one bad race.
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If Sebastian Vettel was racing just for money, he would do everything he can not to lose his place in Ferrari. He had a quite big yearly salary at Ferrari as far as I can remember now. He must be earning 40 million dollars per year then. But now he is earning even less than the half of that money, 15 million dollars. He still wants to be a part of this sport by racing for another team. He is having big problems with the car at Aston Martin for now but he must be still enjoying his time in F1.

The situation was embarrassing for Ferrari and Leclerc.
If you can remember they were touching the car in almost every race.

They could not be in the same team anymore, and they just fired him.
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Racing incidents are part of the racing world, it just happens without any type of mistake, when you are going that fast, sometimes mistakes happens. I get that when you repeat it, that becomes a bit of a trouble and if you let it happen again and again, you will be seeing that and people will riot eventually, or protest at least.

So, you need to make some people examples on why you shouldn't do that in repeat, but then you are missing out on real racing and seeing people who are staying away from each other's paths in order to not get high penalties, which is good for the health of the drivers, but we are not seeing 100% given in that case.
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I think it is very natural that Nakagami did not get any sanctions for this incident because this was purely an accident not intentional or contact with other drivers so that this accident occurred. Nakagami lost his balance at the first corner, causing him to fall and hit two other drivers.
and unfortunately from this incident Alex Rins who got a slight injury to his arm that made him most likely to miss the Sachsenring race next June 19, I really regret if Rins is absent at this circuit, because the character of this circuit is very suitable for Rins' racing style which is very possible to he can perform optimally after getting bad results in the previous few races.

I'm also against high penalties for racing accidents, but in Nakagami's case it's just that he's pushed Rins out of two races in a row with aggressive manoeuvres. A repeat offender could be given a light penalty, for example 3 places back on the grid for the next race. That wouldn't be a big penalty, but it would also be a way of saying that it doesn't OK what he do.
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Rins will now probably be out for the next race, it is not fixed that he will be absent on 19 June at the Sachsenring, but whether the riding will be possible again by then with the fracture? Apparently there will be no further sanctions against Nakagami, as this is the second time he has made such a mistake.

It's a shame for Alex Rins who had to suffer the consequences of the accident. I am also very surprised why Nakagami did not get any sanctions on this incident and was only considered an accident incident in a race and some people have also started criticizing Nakagami including Quartararo which I read about in the local media .
And this kind of incident has also happened in the past in 2019 where Jorge Lorenzo, who was defending Repsol Honda, fell and hit Dovizioso, Vinales and Rossi.
I think it is very natural that Nakagami did not get any sanctions for this incident because this was purely an accident not intentional or contact with other drivers so that this accident occurred. Nakagami lost his balance at the first corner, causing him to fall and hit two other drivers.
and unfortunately from this incident Alex Rins who got a slight injury to his arm that made him most likely to miss the Sachsenring race next June 19, I really regret if Rins is absent at this circuit, because the character of this circuit is very suitable for Rins' racing style which is very possible to he can perform optimally after getting bad results in the previous few races.
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Animoca Brands to title sponsor Australian and Aragon GPs
The MotoGP™ partner and leader in blockchain gaming will take top billing at Aragon and Australia in 2022, and two more events next season

Dorna Sports and Animoca Brands, the company advancing digital property rights for gaming and the metaverse, announced today that Animoca Brands will be the title sponsor of two Grands Prix in 2022 and 2023. This season, Animoca Brands will take top billing at the Grand Prix of Aragon and the Australian Motorcycle Grand Prix. The two events will be officially named the Gran Premio Animoca Brands de Aragón and the Animoca Brands Australian Motorcycle Grand Prix, respectively.

Animoca Brands became a partner of MotoGP™ in 2019, when it gained the rights to develop the first NFTs based on MotoGP™, the world’s fastest motorcycle racing championship. The two companies are producing MotoGP™ Ignition, a competitive management and collectibles game platform based on MotoGP™ and that is part of the REVV Motorsport ecosystem of play & earn games. Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2022/06/07/animoca-brands-to-title-sponsor-australian-and-aragon-gps/425041
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If Sebastian Vettel was racing just for money, he would do everything he can not to lose his place in Ferrari. He had a quite big yearly salary at Ferrari as far as I can remember now. He must be earning 40 million dollars per year then. But now he is earning even less than the half of that money, 15 million dollars. He still wants to be a part of this sport by racing for another team. He is having big problems with the car at Aston Martin for now but he must be still enjoying his time in F1.
You may think that "doing everything he can to stay there" is a thing, but if a team doesn't want you, you are gone. Vettel won 4 in a row, which is why he moved to Ferrari, and gave them the closest they got to a championship in a long time, but he failed, and that is why Ferrari decided to pack it in, get young stars, and then start making decisions based on this year's car, instead of focusing what Mercedes already did. They could have been the Red Bull of last year, they could have kept Vettel and spent all that money on that car, and win just one cup, but instead they decided to focus on the future of the sport and wins they may get now.

@FanEagle it was clear that things were not working for Vettel and Ferrari, and going their separate ways made sense for both the parties hence it was a logical decision on their part. Furthermore Vettel didn’t want to leave because he yet feels that he can perform, but I’m starting to wonder if his era is over as he clearly won’t be in the top 3 drivers ranking anytime soon.
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There are only a few days to go for the Azerbaijan GP. This is one of the very exciting tracks for me so I'm looking forward to watching the full event. Leclerc has a really bad memory related to this track as he crashed into a barrier because of making a mistake. I think that he will have a decent race here after that huge tactical mistake in the Monaco GP too. He need to get as many points as possible to start fixing things for himself. Verstappen is already ahead of him so he had better do his best to take the lead back.

That fight for the lead is as open as possible with only very few points dividing the leaders,in fact they say there are three people now fighting,beside Leclerc and Verstappen also Perez is near now but personally I would also not exclude the fourth person,Russell.Mercedes could not do much in a track like Monaco but here in Baku if they have brought new upgrades I think they can make an impact in this race,although not fighting for the win but fighting for a podium here would be a nice achievement for them.The more drivers we have in the title fight the better the season.
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Rins will now probably be out for the next race, it is not fixed that he will be absent on 19 June at the Sachsenring, but whether the riding will be possible again by then with the fracture? Apparently there will be no further sanctions against Nakagami, as this is the second time he has made such a mistake.

It's a shame for Alex Rins who had to suffer the consequences of the accident. I am also very surprised why Nakagami did not get any sanctions on this incident and was only considered an accident incident in a race and some people have also started criticizing Nakagami including Quartararo which I read about in the local media .
And this kind of incident has also happened in the past in 2019 where Jorge Lorenzo, who was defending Repsol Honda, fell and hit Dovizioso, Vinales and Rossi.
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There are only a few days to go for the Azerbaijan GP. This is one of the very exciting tracks for me so I'm looking forward to watching the full event. Leclerc has a really bad memory related to this track as he crashed into a barrier because of making a mistake. I think that he will have a decent race here after that huge tactical mistake in the Monaco GP too. He need to get as many points as possible to start fixing things for himself. Verstappen is already ahead of him so he had better do his best to take the lead back.
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If Sebastian Vettel was racing just for money, he would do everything he can not to lose his place in Ferrari. He had a quite big yearly salary at Ferrari as far as I can remember now. He must be earning 40 million dollars per year then. But now he is earning even less than the half of that money, 15 million dollars. He still wants to be a part of this sport by racing for another team. He is having big problems with the car at Aston Martin for now but he must be still enjoying his time in F1.
You may think that "doing everything he can to stay there" is a thing, but if a team doesn't want you, you are gone. Vettel won 4 in a row, which is why he moved to Ferrari, and gave them the closest they got to a championship in a long time, but he failed, and that is why Ferrari decided to pack it in, get young stars, and then start making decisions based on this year's car, instead of focusing what Mercedes already did. They could have been the Red Bull of last year, they could have kept Vettel and spent all that money on that car, and win just one cup, but instead they decided to focus on the future of the sport and wins they may get now.
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