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That was another crazy game today. I am a fan of Verstappen, but it's nice that LeClerc has won again that Verstappen has finished below, so that we can get some tension in the battle for the world championship. It seemed for a while that Verstappen would again become world champion without any problems. Or yes, this season without any problems. Bizarre also that there was a fire in Ferrari's car. Sainz can get away with it, for the same money things explode with all the consequences if you are unlucky.
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I dont know that coinlocket$, yes HAAS seems really fast.

The main problem is, are this new engines reliable? BEcause i think Ferrari its in serious troubles if they dont fix that.
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it was easily a 1-2 for Ferrari but sadly Sainz got some problems.


Have you seen the Haas? they were using the new version of the Ferrari Hybrid engine and they were so fast! Ferrari will use it soon aswell
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Ferrari had the fastest car this weekend, but Ferrari should still think about reliability. The one Ferrari burned out and Leclerc also had problems with the gas pedal at the end, a few more laps and Leclerc probably wouldn't won.



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Happy for Leclerc and so sad for Sainz.  It would've def been a Ferrari 1 - 2 if not for the power unit blow up of Sainz's car.  But it seem like something clicked with the Ferrari cars this race.  They had the pace and the pits were well timed.  Over all still a good result.  I can't wait for the next one and see how Red Bull reacts.

A couple more result like this for Ferrari and it's going to be another great season.  

2022 F1 Austrian Grand Prix Race Results

1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   71 Laps
2   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   + 1.532s
3   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   + 41.217s
4   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   + 58.972s
5   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   + 68.436s
6   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   + 1 Lap
7   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   + 1 Lap
8   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   + 1 Lap
9   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   + 1 Lap
10   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   + 1 Lap
11   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   + 1 Lap
12   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   + 1 Lap
13   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   + 1 Lap
14   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   + 1 Lap
15   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   + 1 Lap
16   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   + 1 Lap
17   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   + 1 Lap
    Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   DNF
    Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   DNF
    Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   DNF
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Today it looks like the Ferrari is faster than RedBull, Perez had again some bad luck with the collision. But so it remains an exciting race, also was the overtaking maneuver of Leclerc against Verstappen very beautiful and courageous.

RedBull has immediately tried a new strategy, wait and see if that was a good idea.

Ferrari totally deserved the win today.However the reliability issue with Sainz which had a big engine failure which took on a serious fire and the last laps of Leclerc with problems in both the gas pedal and the shifting shows that Ferrari still got a couple of reliability problems to solve.For Redbull race I think they will be quite happy in managing to minimize damage to the maximum possible extent after managing to get the 2nd place with Verstappen and also the fastest lap of the race,so in total they just lost 6 points compared to Leclerc,and although Leclerc won the race he is still considerably behind in points compared to Verstapped,nevertheless good to see Ferrari winning back.
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Today it looks like the Ferrari is faster than RedBull, Perez had again some bad luck with the collision. But so it remains an exciting race, also was the overtaking maneuver of Leclerc against Verstappen very beautiful and courageous.

RedBull has immediately tried a new strategy, wait and see if that was a good idea.
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Ferrari didn't do itself any favors in the sprint race when Leclerc and Sainz fought hard for second place, allowing Verstappen to win without any danger. Also a very good race from Perez who has improved by many places, so he has a good starting position for today. The weather today could guarantee an exciting race because it could rain at any time.

Yes that was the case and Ferrari did the maximum yesterday to overtake Verstappen both Leclerc at the beginning,and Sainz soon after,but the fight between the two Ferraris made it very easy for Verstappen to go away and easy manage the race,however that was the max capability for the Ferraris and that is sad for all the fans as it looks like Redbull will win again and move further.Only the pit stop strategy can make Ferrari win and they should aim for it,however this will be difficult as Perez is starting fifth right behind their tail and he is a very good collaborative driver for the team.
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Ferrari didn't do itself any favors in the sprint race when Leclerc and Sainz fought hard for second place, allowing Verstappen to win without any danger. Also a very good race from Perez who has improved by many places, so he has a good starting position for today. The weather today could guarantee an exciting race because it could rain at any time.
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It was a good sprint race. Verstappen won another one and as far as I know the number of victories in sprint races has increased to three for him. Him and Bottas are the only winners of sprint races so far. By the way the mistake Alpine made on Alonso's car was really hilarious. How did they forget such a thing? Anyway the driver of the day was Perez for sure after so many overtakes.
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Not bad sprint race after all. As I said after qualifying, Perez is going gain most positions and it happened. Solid performance from him. Schumacher defending from Hamilton was great thing to watch. It's a bit sad that Mick didn't managed to keep Lewis behind until the end and get 1 point. Ferrari fighting each other let Verstappen to win sprint comfortable. But Ferrari should decide whether to prioritise Leclerc or let Sainz to fight with him.
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It is definitely a shocking scene to see Ferrari racers going at each other. I mean not saying that you should leave it, but when the number one driver and number two driver are not clearly notified who they are, this is going to happen. Like Bottas knew Hamilton was number one, it was obvious to everyone, and Perez knows Verstappen is number one, no doubt about that at all. But, when it comes to this?

Ferrari still doesn't know who is number one. We see Charles as number one for sure, but Sainz finished better just last season, really not that weird for him to think he is better. Hell even Mclaren made it clear with their car improvements on who is number one.
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In this sprint race I liked Sergio Perez the most honestly. Because he gained eight places which was really incredible to see. He made up for his punishment very well. The first laps of the sprint race was good too because we watched a really nice rivalry between Sainz and Leclerc. Sainz seemed faster but Leclerc defended him very well until Sainz gave up on attacking. Verstappen led the race easily to the end. However the race might be a little more different if Leclerc saved his real power for the race tomorrow. Verstappen is still the favourite to win the race of course.
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Good recovery from Perez, still impressive how good is Redbull with DRS.

In comparison, Hamilton got a log of problems overtaking Schumacher.
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The starting two laps of the sprint rwce was nice with Leclerc and Sainz going at it vs Verstappen but then at the second lap it then proceeded to be a battle for P2 between two team mates which was hilarious to see cos we know Leclerc is mad af after Silverstone.  Cheesy

I think Leclerc will really start to fight for every inch of the remaining races, be it vs Verstappen, Perez or even vs Sainz.  His season has finally now really started.  I hope he wins a couple of races and gets closer in points with Verstappen.  That would makes things a lot more interesting.

2022 F1 Austrian GP Sprint Race Results

1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   23 Laps
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   + 1.675s
3   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   + 5.644s
4   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   + 13.429s
5   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   + 18.302s
6   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   + 31.032s
7   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   + 34.539s
8   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   + 35.447s
9   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   + 37.163s
10   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   + 37.557s
11   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   + 38.580s
12   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   + 39.738s
13   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   + 48.241s
14   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   + 50.753s
15   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   + 52.125s
16   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   + 52.412s
17   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   + 54.556s
18   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   + 68.694s
    Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   DNF
    Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   DNS
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Today we are watching a sprint race, that's the second time this season. Verstappen is the leader again from the start. Leclerc and Sainz got a battle for second place. It's nice for us to see they battle each other but I don't know about Ferrari management. They may not be as happy as fans. Smiley
First eight place get points and battle for eight place was also exciting. Hamilton passed Mick Schumacher in last laps and got one point. Perez reduced damage and finished fifth. Leclerc got the fastest laps. Tomorrow's race will be very exciting and as Leclerc said they have a good chance in Grand Prix.
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The last hour of the practice has been concluded.

1   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m08.610s
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m08.660s
3   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m08.778s
4   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m08.832s
5   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m08.848s
6   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m09.179s
7   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m09.240s
8   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m09.251s
9   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m09.350s
10   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m09.519s
11   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m09.525s
12   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m09.579s
13   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m09.602s
14   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m09.665s
15   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m09.700s
16   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m09.740s
17   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m09.852s
18   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m09.960s
19   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m10.005s
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m10.261s

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1007640/1/f1-2022-austrian-grand-prix-free-practice-results-2

That is showing good performance from Ferrari but we will find it soon enough in the Sprint race starting just 30 minutes from now if they are truly faster than Redbull or that Redbull is just trying different setups.I think it is the true form of Ferrari and I hope they show it during this Sprint race,we really need some team to overtake the Redbulls during a race,a thing which up until now has not happened,overtaking Verstappen I mean,as for Perez he is just a good 2nd driver and I don't think his chances to win F1 are as real as those of Verstappen and Leclerc during this year.
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The last hour of the practice has been concluded.

1   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m08.610s
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m08.660s
3   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m08.778s
4   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m08.832s
5   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m08.848s
6   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m09.179s
7   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m09.240s
8   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m09.251s
9   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m09.350s
10   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m09.519s
11   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m09.525s
12   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m09.579s
13   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m09.602s
14   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m09.665s
15   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m09.700s
16   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m09.740s
17   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m09.852s
18   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m09.960s
19   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m10.005s
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m10.261s

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1007640/1/f1-2022-austrian-grand-prix-free-practice-results-2
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The qualifying session was really nice to watch for me. I regret to say that Hamilton and Russell had a bad day but both of them are still in a little profit now. Because Perez's best lap in Q2 and all laps in Q3 have been removed and he went down to the 13th place in the grid. Especially Russell is still going to start in the 4th place even though he crashed into a wall and left the session early. Verstappen and Leclerc competed very well against each other and Verstappen is starting from the 1st place today in the sprint race. I think we will see a really good competition again in this race and Leclerc might even take the pole too.
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