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20 racers are ready to parade in Jakarta on March 16, bro.

The event will start and end at the Merdeka Palace. President Jokowi will welcome them at the Palace, then will join the ride with the racers
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But I don't know what the purpose of the parade is so there are twenty racers who want to do it on March 16, 2022 and I also see that the asphalting of the Mandalika circuit has also been completely completed.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on March 09, 2022, 04:29:43 PM

Kevin Magnussen returns to Haas for 2022 season:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-kevin-magnussen-to-make-sensational-f1-return-with-haas-in-2022.7m4IFYh7gmD3ZGppbs5f88.html

Unexpected indeed I thought they were going for Giovinazzi, even 1-year break in F1, the duration Magnussen got, is a lot of time.
Anyway, good luck to him.

Final test from tomorrow, Mercedes is rumored to have a lot of new things coming up.

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Kevin Magnussen returns to Haas for 2022 season:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-kevin-magnussen-to-make-sensational-f1-return-with-haas-in-2022.7m4IFYh7gmD3ZGppbs5f88.html
It's very unexpected for me, I haven't considered him as possible option to replace Mazepin. I think it's safe pick for Haas. Maybe not something special, but he have experience with team and they know what to expect from him.

Quote from: sana54210 on March 09, 2022, 03:48:51 PM

It is not expected to be like football manager because there are less things involved. However, if you ever played motorsports manager and played in F1 part of it, you basically know what you should be expecting.

It is like a football manager "type" of game, where you do make some changes during the race and outside of the race your best try is to get your car better and make upgrades to your car constantly and try to keep getting better and every so often the system changes completely (like real life this season) then everyone basically starts from scratch and the one with the most upgrade chances end up being better. So, the game is already out there, but this one will be a different and hopefully a better version of it instead.

Yeah, I understand that F1 manager can't be such deep as football manager. I haven't played any proper motorsports manager so far, but I know pretty much what to expect from other similar type of games.

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Quote from: beerlover on March 08, 2022, 12:34:27 PM

It is just announced that there will be a F1 Manager 2022 game! I can't wait for it to happen, with the amazing innovations on the computer technology and game engines, it could be so much great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQHPPLlBlvI

Interesting stuff, definitely going to try. Maybe it's not worth to expect such level game like Football Manager, but still, it should be interesting.

It is not expected to be like football manager because there are less things involved. However, if you ever played motorsports manager and played in F1 part of it, you basically know what you should be expecting.

It is like a football manager "type" of game, where you do make some changes during the race and outside of the race your best try is to get your car better and make upgrades to your car constantly and try to keep getting better and every so often the system changes completely (like real life this season) then everyone basically starts from scratch and the one with the most upgrade chances end up being better. So, the game is already out there, but this one will be a different and hopefully a better version of it instead.

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Quote from: beerlover on March 08, 2022, 12:34:27 PM

It is just announced that there will be a F1 Manager 2022 game! I can't wait for it to happen, with the amazing innovations on the computer technology and game engines, it could be so much great.

Sounds interesting. Here's the description from the Steam page:

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if open to workshop modding, this game could really become the thing we all wanted

Could be fun if it's open to modding, yes. I imagine one of the first would be a 'Michael Masi has gone crazy!' mod, where he returns as race director and gets up to all sorts of wacky antics and ad hoc rule-making. All drivers must have a compulsory toilet break on lap 23! Only red cars can unlap themselves! DRS only enabled on even-numbered laps! Drivers must high-five the entire pit crew during each tyre change!

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Quote from: Luzin on March 08, 2022, 09:41:01 AM

If you look at the price of the package from local media, ticket prices are shared into 4 categories.
1. VIP Hospitality Suites - Three-day package (Friday-Sunday) around $710 - $1060
2. Premium Grandstand - Two day package (Saturday-Sunday) around $185
3. Standard Grandstand - Two day package (Saturday-Sunday) around $125
4. General Admission (non-seating area) - Two-day package (Saturday-Sunday) around $60
It may be quite cheap without travel costs for non seating area classes.

It looks cheap for those whose homes are close to Mandalika, but for those who are far away from Mandalika it will always be expensive, especially to enter there, you also have to go through the PCR Test route which creates additional costs for everyone.

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Furthermore, regarding the circuit hopefully soon finished, so that the race can run smoothly and there is no more spillover regarding the dirty track. As for who will win it seems very difficult to guess, but a lot of straights at Mandalika and maybe Ducati, Honda or KTM favourites.

As for the circuit layout and the model of the Mandalika circuit, it seems that it can be suitable for all manufacturers and it has been seen in the Pre-season Test last month although complaints about the dirt of the circuit are a problem for all drivers, but looking at the top speed data and the straight track which is not so long although there are many, makes all manufacturers look very strong here.
That's my personal analysis.

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Fabio: "I had a very good start. At the start of the second lap, the air pressure in the front tire was too high, which meant the tire performance was very bad from the start. I was hoping for a better pace, but I couldn't get more than that and that's what our problem"

"When I was behind the other riders the tire pressure increased, that's normal. But this time it was a disaster even without the slipstream, the tire pressure was too high throughout the whole race. We need to understand why this keeps happening"

"Other manufacturers like KTM, Honda and Ducati did a great job during the winter and this is the result of their hard work. When you consider that we won both races in Qatar last year and are now so far behind, it makes me think a lot"

"My number one goal is to win races. The most important thing for me is to have the best bike that I can also win. I will definitely take that into account. Of course I don't have full confidence at the moment, but my job is to prepare myself as best as I can for each and every one of us." race and give my all, regardless of whether I'm fighting for victory or 15th place"

^{Source : Speedweek & https://www.instagram.com/p/CayDUkihxTO/}

Sad for Fabio Quartararo this season Cry

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Quote from: karabiber on March 07, 2022, 05:33:27 PM

The 2022 MotoGP World Championship has started in Qatar. Bagnaia lost control of his motorcycle at the corner causing him and Pramac Ducati rider Martin to be eliminated. This was very sad for them. Bastianini who started the race very eagerly passed the opponents one by one and gained the leadership in the first corner when the final five laps were reached. Using his 1.5 second advantage Bastianini won his first MotoGP victory.

Jorge Martin was knocked out of the track by a bagnaia crash through the deep lane near the first corner and it's really sad because Jorge Martin and Bagnaia's bikes were not working optimally during the Race and I'm sure they both will improve their position when the Race in Mandalika later, to be exact on March 20, 2022.
Look out for new surprises from all the racers at the Mandalika circuit.

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I agree that Imola probably isn't most exciting track for current track. But I happy about these news. I always would pick old school tracks like Imola against these boring artificial city tracks like Jeddah, Miami, Abu Dhabi and so on.

Quote from: beerlover on March 08, 2022, 12:34:27 PM

It is just announced that there will be a F1 Manager 2022 game! I can't wait for it to happen, with the amazing innovations on the computer technology and game engines, it could be so much great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQHPPLlBlvI

Interesting stuff, definitely going to try. Maybe it's not worth to expect such level game like Football Manager, but still, it should be interesting.

Quote from: tokeweed on March 08, 2022, 02:55:12 PM

Yup! Can't wait to see the cars in action! I think this test will be open to the public for broadcast or streaming.

Yeah, there will be live broadcast of tests and proper live timing. Finally we will see cars in action. From tests in Barcelona we got very limited data.

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I wrote it wrongly yesterday.

The GP of Imola will be in the calendar UNTIL 2025 from this year and not FROM 2025.

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Quote from: Luzin on March 06, 2022, 09:35:39 AM

If Marquez is able to start well it could be that he will be champion today. Then for a good start they will start from grid one and two. It's hard to guess the winner today, but my guess favourites are the three riders who started the lead. If you look at the qualifying results, it looks very yamaha so helpless with the power of the bike. The dominance of large power motors is on grids 1 to 10. Yamaha is only Quartararo the best in 11th position.
If someone wish Quartararo a champion maybe it takes luck. Let's see when we're in a moment, it's currently in the Moto2 race.

Quartararo and Marquez haven't had luck today, both are finished in the 9th and 5th positions, domination is still Ducati and Suzuki. Even though Marquez was in position 2nd position behind Espargaro in the first lap but both can't do until the finish. In another side, a favorite champion, Bagnaia because a crash, get incident with Jorge Martin. in the next race in our country, Mandalika.

Congratulations to Enea Bastianini who managed to finish in first place at the opening of the Qatar MotoGP race this season, when the race started Marquez and Pol Espargaro started the race well but both were unable to maintain their position properly so they were overtaken by other riders, it's a shame Bagnaia and JorgeMartin because that incident they didn't get any points because neither of them could continue the race until the end.
The next race which will be held at the Mandalika Indonesia circuit seems very exciting to watch because this is the first time a MotoGP race has been held.

Bastianini was lined at 10.18 to win at Playbetr. Did anybody drop a little action in the race? I've been asking for some betting advice, none seemed to be sharing what they think about the race from a betting perspective.

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We are in the final week ok the F1 test and most of the cars will uncover secrets this week.

The test will be in Bahrain, where the 1st race of the season will take place.
8 hours per day since Thursday.

Also, is it rumored about (already) an irregular car, in this case, Redbull.

Yup! Can't wait to see the cars in action! I think this test will be open to the public for broadcast or streaming.

And yeah, no surprise. It's expected for the cars to have a bit of kinks and quirks at the start of the season... Especially with the new specs. Another rumor swirling around is the Ferrari could be the fastest this season. I think has something to do with their power unit.

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It is just announced that there will be a F1 Manager 2022 game! I can't wait for it to happen, with the amazing innovations on the computer technology and game engines, it could be so much great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQHPPLlBlvI

Here is the video of it and you can find it on steam right now and add it to your wishlist as well. It will probably not be awesome right on the first day and will lose a lot of people because of the bugs, but when completely finished and if open to workshop modding, this game could really become the thing we all wanted, or at least what I wanted. Plenty of people played motorsports manager both on PC and on mobile like crazy for years, and they were not even that great when you consider many aspects of it, and had little to no graphics as well. With the new frontier development team help, this game could become something amazing if done correctly.

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I also prefer to watch it on TV because the Mandalika committee has set ticket prices that are very expensive so some people see that it is no longer affordable and there is also news that says ticket sales in Mandalika are very quiet and not sold out during the Pre-season test a few weeks ago.

Of course I would also love to see the television because the race every moment will be clearly visible with the camera. I don't have much money to buy tickets. In addition, the cost of travel is also quite far.
If you look at the price of the package from local media, ticket prices are shared into 4 categories.
1. VIP Hospitality Suites - Three-day package (Friday-Sunday) around $710 - $1060
2. Premium Grandstand - Two day package (Saturday-Sunday) around $185
3. Standard Grandstand - Two day package (Saturday-Sunday) around $125
4. General Admission (non-seating area) - Two-day package (Saturday-Sunday) around $60
It may be quite cheap without travel costs for non seating area classes.
Furthermore, regarding the circuit hopefully soon finished, so that the race can run smoothly and there is no more spillover regarding the dirty track. As for who will win it seems very difficult to guess, but a lot of straights at Mandalika and maybe Ducati, Honda or KTM favourites.

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Quote from: Davian144 on March 07, 2022, 09:04:42 AM

Bastianini's dedication is indeed very big and he has dedicated the victory to the late Fausto Gresini who has built the Gresini Racing team in his lifetime and what I see Bastianini is more suited to the specs of this Ducati GP21 motorcycle, even though it was last year's motorcycle spec but it is still very fast to use in the race and one more thing that Bastianini chose the right tires that night.

There's no Yamaha in the top three, it looks bad. In fact they only had one Quartararo name at rank nine. Is this a bad start for Yamaha? Estimates of many fans have proven at this time they have difficulty competing with large power motors.
Mandalika Indonesia's next series, there is no official race record here. If you look at the track there, I think there are a lot of long straights. Maybe Yamaha will struggle here again, and Ducati will dominate a lot.

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It is official, Imola will be back in F1 from 2025.
It is a historical track but I really don't like it, hard to overtake.

Haas may go for Giovinazzi or Magnussen for replacing Mazepin.

I like the Imola Grand Prix an old school track with gravel beds etc. if you make a mistake there the race can be over. But as you write, it's hard to overtake, but maybe the track will be rebuilt? But there will already be races this year in April or do you think Imola is fixed until 2025?

It's whoever who take the lead spot and hold on to it until the race is finished. I think pit stops will play a crucial role for drivers since the track is somewhat cramped on lots of corners, and fast sections approaching corners are really tight. Unless someone is daring enough to overtake on certain spots, they can take the lead as surely other drivers won't contest. It's an interesting track, though I agree they must update it for even interesting races in the future. It's a wasted track if they don't tend to it and upgrade it.

I personally like Imola the way it is right now and that for a reason,only some very bold drivers or drivers with a huge advantage of their car compared to other drivers will make a move to overtake.The safety car is another added option here if it becomes a mess in the first few turns which maybe the case and this track is really narrow which adds to the beauty.I am very happy that Imola will stay until 2025 with the F1 calendar.It will be one of the early races of the season so we can expect to see the true power of the cars during this race.

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It is official, Imola will be back in F1 from 2025.
It is a historical track but I really don't like it, hard to overtake.

Haas may go for Giovinazzi or Magnussen for replacing Mazepin.

I like the Imola Grand Prix an old school track with gravel beds etc. if you make a mistake there the race can be over. But as you write, it's hard to overtake, but maybe the track will be rebuilt? But there will already be races this year in April or do you think Imola is fixed until 2025?

It's whoever who take the lead spot and hold on to it until the race is finished. I think pit stops will play a crucial role for drivers since the track is somewhat cramped on lots of corners, and fast sections approaching corners are really tight. Unless someone is daring enough to overtake on certain spots, they can take the lead as surely other drivers won't contest. It's an interesting track, though I agree they must update it for even interesting races in the future. It's a wasted track if they don't tend to it and upgrade it.

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Quote from: AakZaki on March 05, 2022, 12:10:00 PM

Of course I am happy that Mandalika officially became one of the hosts of the Moto GP world event. I can't wait for March 20th, I hope there will be no delay. The news is currently the committee is continuing to perfect the circuit's shortcomings after several trials from several teams were conducted. One of them is the asphalt repair that is too dirty. I hope it's done soon.
Of course maybe I will see on Television because the ticket price seems too expensive. Even though I'm in Indonesia, I'm quite a long distance from the race area and it takes a lot of money. Watching TV seems like it's going to be more fun.

I also prefer to watch it on TV because the Mandalika committee has set ticket prices that are very expensive so some people see that it is no longer affordable and there is also news that says ticket sales in Mandalika are very quiet and not sold out during the Pre-season test a few weeks ago.

The following is the current condition of the Mandalika Circuit Track, Repaving is still being carried out until the first bend
Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/CazcRMzpcTb/

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 07, 2022, 06:59:47 PM

It is official, Imola will be back in F1 from 2025.
It is a historical track but I really don't like it, hard to overtake.

Haas may go for Giovinazzi or Magnussen for replacing Mazepin.

I like the Imola Grand Prix an old school track with gravel beds etc. if you make a mistake there the race can be over. But as you write, it's hard to overtake, but maybe the track will be rebuilt? But there will already be races this year in April or do you think Imola is fixed until 2025?

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Quote from: Koal-84 on March 07, 2022, 09:46:51 AM

The last specification from Ducati, last year's model, is very competitive, even the factory Ducati riders use last year's engine because the engine doesn't behave so aggressively.

Ducati seems to have homologated three engine models this season and in their own factory they use the 2021 version of the engine with the addition of hybrid technology so that Bagnaia and Miller feel they don't really fit into their bikes and often experience problems during the Race so that only Bastianini is able to perform well in the race Qatar used last year's spec bikes, while Zarco and Martin also felt the same way as Bagnaia and Miller so they couldn't perform well even though the two Pramac Racing riders had already used the 2022 version of the engine this season.

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But Yamaha can't do anything about the engine this season, the engine specifications are frozen for this season and only Aprilia is allowed to work on the engine, but for how long? Think Aprilia is strong enough this year to lose the concession points status.

Aprilia has started to develop gradually and has proven to be able to overtake Repsol Honda in the Qatar Opening Race, so Marquez himself must be willing to finish in fifth position after being overtaken by Aleix Espargaro with Aprilia racing.
Yamaha in general will not be so strong this season and they should really be able to improve next year because this year they can't develop the engine anymore.

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It is official, Imola will be back in F1 from 2025.
It is a historical track but I really don't like it, hard to overtake.

Haas may go for Giovinazzi or Magnussen for replacing Mazepin.

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