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Quote from: LTU_btc on March 05, 2022, 08:38:30 PM

Well, I think it would be not that easy to find someone would be worse than Mazepin. He was in the team just because of money from Uralkali. Money stopped flowing and he isn't needed anymore.

Paid drivers always leave a bad taste, and quite apart from the Russia/Putin links, I'm glad he's gone. There are plenty of other more deserving drivers who never get a chance. It would be great to see everyone getting a seat purely on merit, but that's certainly not always been the case in F1, where money talks more than in some other sports.

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Quote from: bounceback on March 06, 2022, 05:37:00 AM

Starting in 3rd position is not a bad thing for Maquez even though his position is surrounded by Ducati riders because I think Marquez is able to keep up with these riders and will try to put a little pressure on him, the opening of the Qatar race this season is not favorable for Quartararo because he will start the race in 11th place so he has to go the extra mile and not make the slightest mistake to at least be able to finish 7th or 8th.

Did you see last year's Race there ? where Quartararo who also came from behind but was able to finish in front by taking care of everything including tire wear before the race was over.
In general, on paper, Yamaha has not benefited this season, but if their riders can give more in the race, then finishing ahead of the others is still very possible for Yamaha riders.

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Quote from: Uang_kartal on March 06, 2022, 04:30:42 AM

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Not so great performance for Marquez but I think he will win this race and the Mondial pretty easily.

marquez is no stranger to my ears, although from the beginning I prefer to enjoy this race without taking anyone's side, meaning I'm not a fanatic, marquez should have no trouble getting into 3rd position, and this isn't too bad, indeed other friends briefly discussed Fabio Quartararo but it might happen, from the Yamaha camp I am quite familiar with the doctor, even though people know Fabio Quartaro has his own peculiarity and is fierce. I've also heard that at the time of Moto GP 2021, he could make 5 wins and many more. again, I'm sure any position can have the same opportunity.. if you mention marquez can be brilliant I also agree brother

Starting in 3rd position is not a bad thing for Maquez even though his position is surrounded by Ducati riders because I think Marquez is able to keep up with these riders and will try to put a little pressure on him, the opening of the Qatar race this season is not favorable for Quartararo because he will start the race in 11th place so he has to go the extra mile and not make the slightest mistake to at least be able to finish 7th or 8th.

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There are less than two weeks to go for the first race weekend to start. And I'm just looking forward to watch this season. Because we have entered a new era in F1 and I really wonder whether we will see different teams rising and fighting for the championship this time. I'm curious about especially Ferrari right now. Because their car seems to be really promising for this season. They still have a little problems though but their speed is really great now according to the pre-season tests.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 05, 2022, 07:01:39 PM

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Not so great performance for Marquez but I think he will win this race and the Mondial pretty easily.

marquez is no stranger to my ears, although from the beginning I prefer to enjoy this race without taking anyone's side, meaning I'm not a fanatic, marquez should have no trouble getting into 3rd position, and this isn't too bad, indeed other friends briefly discussed Fabio Quartararo but it might happen, from the Yamaha camp I am quite familiar with the doctor, even though people know Fabio Quartaro has his own peculiarity and is fierce. I've also heard that at the time of Moto GP 2021, he could make 5 wins and many more. again, I'm sure any position can have the same opportunity.. if you mention marquez can be brilliant I also agree brother

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Quote from: Koal-84 on March 05, 2022, 10:11:20 AM

Suzuki, like Yamaha, has an in-line engine and therefore has very similar good handling. But unlike Yamaha, Suzuki has apparently developed the engine better and found some performance in the inline engine technology.

Yamaha is actually still very lacking in terms of top speed and traction this season, but the only thing that must be done by Yamaha riders this season is to start the race very perfectly, which means Yamaha riders must be able to keep the tires in order to keep the timing and rhythm of the race. could go very well for them.

Quote from: xmonkeyx on March 05, 2022, 10:25:18 AM

I don't doubt the quality of the Ducati, in qualifying which will start soon I focus on the declining performance of the Yamaha, they are usually very fast when racing at the Qatar circuit but this is different this year after I saw in FP3 what has happened, Yamaha's Fabio Quartararo stuck at position 11.

Fabio Quartararo will also start the race on the 11th grid at Lusail Qatar later and he himself said he will try to make a 100% push to the bike because in general the Yamaha has suffered a lot this season although in terms of wins, Yamaha is very much there.

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Quote from: blue Snow on March 06, 2022, 02:11:16 AM

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Not so great performance for Marquez but I think he will win this race and the Mondial pretty easily.

Let's see, maybe he will win but I still doubt, I don't know how the progress of his eye? the doctor said he needs 2 months to recover where today is still not enough month. I am still on Quartararo for this session, even though in 11th position when Yamaha improved the top speed problem, Quartararo will be fast to increase on top race as we can see the last years.

Quartararo has not shown a good performance from FP to Qualification, I think it will be difficult for him to be able to compete in the front row during the race, moreover he will start from 11th position.

in my opinion there are no more problems with marquez's health, if he still has problems with his eyes I think it is impossible for him to get 3rd fastest time in qualifying.

In the FP session, I saw that Suzuki had the best speed and timing, but that was not shown in the qualifying session, instead it was the Ducati rider who became the fastest racer 1 and 2 in the qualification.
in the Race which will be held in a few hours I think Ducati will still dominate the front row and maybe Marquez will try to match him and if there is a surprise I think it will be from Suzuki.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 05, 2022, 07:01:39 PM

Not so great performance for Marquez but I think he will win this race and the Mondial pretty easily.

Let's see, maybe he will win but I still doubt, I don't know how the progress of his eye? the doctor said he needs 2 months to recover where today is still not enough month. I am still on Quartararo for this session, even though in 11th position when Yamaha improved the top speed problem, Quartararo will be fast to increase on top race as we can see the last years.

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Quote from: stepwilli on March 05, 2022, 05:11:46 PM

The problem with Uralkali being kicked of the sponsorship from Haas is that Haas was already not a financially great team. They literally got 2 drivers who would allow them to get the most money possible, and one sponsor literally just to race Mzepin.

Now, Uralkali is gone and Mazepin is gone as well. They have zero budget left, they need to find a great sponsor now, and it is going to be horribly difficult as well. It means that they are going to once again race with one leg tied behind themselves against everyone else. Don't get me wrong Mazepin was bad but not like they are going to get Hamilton instead of him, they will probably get Fittipaldi and he is not that good neither. This is going to end in horrible result for Haas for sure.

Well, I think it would be not that easy to find someone would be worse than Mazepin. He was in the team just because of money from Uralkali. Money stopped flowing and he isn't needed anymore. Even with Uralkali money they were by far weakest team on the grid. Now things won't become better. Well, maybe now Gene Haas will change his mind and will agree to sell team to Andretti.
Fittipaldi is most likely replacement, but I think Giovinazzi is possible too. Any way, maybe we will get chance to compare Shumacher results with decent driver

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Not so great performance for Marquez but I think he will win this race and the Mondial pretty easily.

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The problem with Uralkali being kicked of the sponsorship from Haas is that Haas was already not a financially great team. They literally got 2 drivers who would allow them to get the most money possible, and one sponsor literally just to race Mzepin.

Now, Uralkali is gone and Mazepin is gone as well. They have zero budget left, they need to find a great sponsor now, and it is going to be horribly difficult as well. It means that they are going to once again race with one leg tied behind themselves against everyone else. Don't get me wrong Mazepin was bad but not like they are going to get Hamilton instead of him, they will probably get Fittipaldi and he is not that good neither. This is going to end in horrible result for Haas for sure.

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Who do you guys think would most likely win at Qatar? I'm not really into MotoGP but I'm looking into learning more and betting small every now and then. Lol.

Anyway, is this guy Marc Marquez a lock to win or is it 50/50 between him and Jorge Martin if they went head to head?

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For the first time since 1997, Indonesia will again hold MotoGP at the Mandalika Circuit on March 18-20. Just counting the days!

Are you going to watch live or watching on TV bro?

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Of course I am happy that Mandalika officially became one of the hosts of the Moto GP world event. I can't wait for March 20th, I hope there will be no delay. The news is currently the committee is continuing to perfect the circuit's shortcomings after several trials from several teams were conducted. One of them is the asphalt repair that is too dirty. I hope it's done soon.
Of course maybe I will see on Television because the ticket price seems too expensive. Even though I'm in Indonesia, I'm quite a long distance from the race area and it takes a lot of money. Watching TV seems like it's going to be more fun.

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But no big surprises in qualifying today, Ducatis very strong as well as Honda with Marc. Bagnaia was a little disappointing I would have expected more, from Aprilia I was surprised and fifth place is very strong, Yamaha in qualifying as I thought very disappointing, hopefully Yamaha will find something for the race, Suzuki could possibly surprise tomorrow, for Yamaha it will be very difficult over 10 km / h slower than the top on the straight, almost impossible to overtake, will be very difficult...

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Quote from: Koal-84 on March 05, 2022, 10:11:20 AM

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Quote from: junmisakiro on March 05, 2022, 05:05:30 AM

The arrival of Livio Suppo has a positive effect on the Suzuki team this season, I have predicted it from the start and I am sure that a lot of development will be carried out for the advancement of Suzuki motorcycle engines this season, of course it is a very good thing to be able to compete with other manufacturers.

Suzuki motorbikes have better handling compared to other motorbikes in the MotoGP grid and if Suzuki itself has had very good performance or top speed this season, then this will be very dangerous for all manufacturers, especially in terms of this season's world title race. because there are many races in this year for MotoGP.

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After seeing the performance of the Suzuki engine ridden by Alex Rins in FP2 MotoGP Qatar and being the fastest, I think this year they will be in the front row for this weekend's Race.

In FP3 I saw that Alex Rins was still in front because no other racer has been able to overtake his time so far, and now it's heading to FP4 and after that there will be a combination of time for whoever enters the first and second Qualifications to take the grid tomorrow

Suzuki, like Yamaha, has an in-line engine and therefore has very similar good handling. But unlike Yamaha, Suzuki has apparently developed the engine better and found some performance in the inline engine technology.

A good 30 minutes until the first MotoGP Qualy this season, have the Ducatis held back yesterday or are they not as strong as assumed, will be exciting.

I don't doubt the quality of the Ducati, in qualifying which will start soon I focus on the declining performance of the Yamaha, they are usually very fast when racing at the Qatar circuit but this is different this year after I saw in FP3 what has happened, Yamaha's Fabio Quartararo stuck at position 11.

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Quote from: Davian144 on March 05, 2022, 07:13:48 AM

Quote from: junmisakiro on March 05, 2022, 05:05:30 AM

The arrival of Livio Suppo has a positive effect on the Suzuki team this season, I have predicted it from the start and I am sure that a lot of development will be carried out for the advancement of Suzuki motorcycle engines this season, of course it is a very good thing to be able to compete with other manufacturers.

Suzuki motorbikes have better handling compared to other motorbikes in the MotoGP grid and if Suzuki itself has had very good performance or top speed this season, then this will be very dangerous for all manufacturers, especially in terms of this season's world title race. because there are many races in this year for MotoGP.

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After seeing the performance of the Suzuki engine ridden by Alex Rins in FP2 MotoGP Qatar and being the fastest, I think this year they will be in the front row for this weekend's Race.

In FP3 I saw that Alex Rins was still in front because no other racer has been able to overtake his time so far, and now it's heading to FP4 and after that there will be a combination of time for whoever enters the first and second Qualifications to take the grid tomorrow

Suzuki, like Yamaha, has an in-line engine and therefore has very similar good handling. But unlike Yamaha, Suzuki has apparently developed the engine better and found some performance in the inline engine technology.

A good 30 minutes until the first MotoGP Qualy this season, have the Ducatis held back yesterday or are they not as strong as assumed, will be exciting.

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Quote from: junmisakiro on March 05, 2022, 05:05:30 AM

The arrival of Livio Suppo has a positive effect on the Suzuki team this season, I have predicted it from the start and I am sure that a lot of development will be carried out for the advancement of Suzuki motorcycle engines this season, of course it is a very good thing to be able to compete with other manufacturers.

Suzuki motorbikes have better handling compared to other motorbikes in the MotoGP grid and if Suzuki itself has had very good performance or top speed this season, then this will be very dangerous for all manufacturers, especially in terms of this season's world title race. because there are many races in this year for MotoGP.

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After seeing the performance of the Suzuki engine ridden by Alex Rins in FP2 MotoGP Qatar and being the fastest, I think this year they will be in the front row for this weekend's Race.

In FP3 I saw that Alex Rins was still in front because no other racer has been able to overtake his time so far, and now it's heading to FP4 and after that there will be a combination of time for whoever enters the first and second Qualifications to take the grid tomorrow

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Quote from: Davian144 on March 05, 2022, 03:56:31 AM

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According to claims by @alexrins and @joanmir36official, the Top Speed GSX-RR 2022 can reach up to 355.2 km/h because the new engine + RHA (Ride Height Adjuster) has been used... Interesting to see Suzuki's performance throughout the 2022 season
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And if I think there is also a point in that too, but I also look more towards the new manager for the Suzuki factory team which this year is managed by Livio Suppo who previously also had time at Honda so he has a lot of experience that he can use for the Suzuki team in the past. this season and considering that the Suzuki motorbike also has better potential on the track even though it uses almost the same engine configuration as Yamaha, namely Inline4.

The arrival of Livio Suppo has a positive effect on the Suzuki team this season, I have predicted it from the start and I am sure that a lot of development will be carried out for the advancement of Suzuki motorcycle engines this season, of course it is a very good thing to be able to compete with other manufacturers.

After seeing the performance of the Suzuki engine ridden by Alex Rins in FP2 MotoGP Qatar and being the fastest, I think this year they will be in the front row for this weekend's Race.

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Yamaha's statistics at the Losail Qatar circuit as a whole are very good and promising, but for this year I am a little doubtful because in the two free practices Yamaha has not shown a good performance at all and today was the third and fourth free practice and followed by Qualifications 1 and 2.
Is Yamaha able to show good performance ? We'll see, guys

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According to claims by @alexrins and @joanmir36official, the Top Speed GSX-RR 2022 can reach up to 355.2 km/h because the new engine + RHA (Ride Height Adjuster) has been used... Interesting to see Suzuki's performance throughout the 2022 season
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And if I think there is also a point in that too, but I also look more towards the new manager for the Suzuki factory team which this year is managed by Livio Suppo who previously also had time at Honda so he has a lot of experience that he can use for the Suzuki team in the past. this season and considering that the Suzuki motorbike also has better potential on the track even though it uses almost the same engine configuration as Yamaha, namely Inline4.

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