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The important thing is to have a car.
Problems with this car were expected since the revolution, especially in Ferrari with a brand new engine too.

Still is a big upgrade from the last year.

After what I saw in this race highlights ...I'm glad I didn't watch it live to see my guy Charles struggle again and driving so good even if he missed the start but he really tried and push hard in order to comeback and win the race and it was so close... . Now the big question is : What will Ferrari do ? They just chance the engine on Charles car before Barcelona race and they also change the turbine on this race and none of it worked...like literally nothing. I don't even want to bring in discussion the fact that multiple Ferrari engines had problems in Baku and I'm afraid that Ferrari lost the title fight after this result... .

Max did what he knows best , driving without mistake , get a W and consolidate his 1st position in the Drivers Championship.

This race was a very sad one for Ferrari again. After every Ferrari fan was so happy after they have finally a car again that can fight for the championship this season it seems like now everyone is in a bad mood again. Today was even more weird and concerning than the other ones because not only both cars of the Ferrari team problems and had to stop the race. The cars of Zhou and Magnussen also had a critical engine failure and could not finish the race. Both of those cars are also using the engine from Ferrari.
It seems like Ferrari engineers were able to create a very powerful new engine but apparently the new power unit is not as reliable as it should be if you really want to fight for the championship.

Ferrari was actually winning in this fast track .

In the end, they got 0 points and now need hard work to get progress on these cars, they are having a lot of problems.

24 hours of Le Mans have come to an end with the winner and runner up positions grabbed by the Toyota Gazoo Racing Team. This is the 90th 24 hrs event organised by the Automobile Club de l'Ouest. The event started 11th June at the Circuit de la Sarthe, Le Mans, France and ended on 12th June. Brendon Hartley, Sébastien Buemi, Ryō Hirakawa have won the 24 hrs race.

Congratulations to Redbull. Now we can say they are champions. I wouldn't be surprised if Ferrari loses the team 2nd place to Mercedes. Leclerc is having bad luck. They couldn't solve this problem, it's a shame for Leclerc. It looks like Verstappen will easily win his second title at this rate. Ferrari stumbles on updates. They have fast vehicles but they are not durable. Speed doesn't always pay off. The price of mistakes is losing the championship.

With results of recent races, we are heading to possibility that this year we won't have fight for champions title. It would be sad, considering how season started. It's no chance that Red Bull will let Perez to fight for the title, while Verstappen's lead against Leclerc is already getting significant.
Ferrari, if they don't screw up race with their tactics, then it's ruined by reliabilty issues. It's sad to see how much bad luck this season Sainz have and in many cases it wasn't his fault. Ferrari should be concerned about reliabilty, Haas and Alfa Romeo cars with their engines also retired today because of technical issues.
And it's painful to see how mcu F1 cars is porpoising on straights. It was difficult race for Lewis, while Russel continue to deliver most stable results on the grid.

Honestly Ferrari has been so bad that I keep saying that we really need to see the team completely changing. I would keep Charles because he is a great young star, but aside from him, from Binotto to the lowest level, EVERYONE Needs to be fired and replaced. I know that is not happened recently at all because we are talking about something completely revamping the team, but that is going to be a bit of a problem.

If we could end up with something like that, then we are going to see Ferrari finally winning something, and that is a very important thing. Maybe lose 2-3 years on the way while doing it, but this team is just way too horrible to care.

I really don't know what to say about this situation. I'm very sad for Ferrari drivers as both of them DNF. I was sad for especially Leclerc as he was doing a great job actually. He got an engine failure suddenly and there was really nothing to do about that. And Ferrari were not the only team that experienced this unfortunate incident. Two more teams with Ferrari engines were out of the race completely. It was a terrible day for Haas and Alfa Romeo also. Ferrari need to find out the main problem and fix it. The gap between Leclerc and Verstappen is opening more week by week and Perez also has got ahead of Leclerc already.

Another terrible result for Ferrari. I do not know if they had double DNF this year, I think they did not, but they had this mishap missing from everything else, so its fitting to have it now. I mean they really need to look in the mirror, without any issues, they would have been in the running for a title right now, but with these, even though there are a lot of races left, its looking like Red Bull is already celebrating like they won the title already, at this point its not Charles vs Max, its literally Max vs Checo and if Ferrari keeps this up, its going to be a veeeery simple back to back championship for Max. Such a shame, the race became so boring after a while.

What you say is also true because apart from the DNF they experienced at the beginning of this season, but if you look at the consistent performance and good results in several races, Bastianini is still far superior to Jorge Martin so the manufacturer will definitely prefer Bastianini to be placed in the seat occupied by Miller at this time.


I also see it that way because some article writers and MotoGp observers at this point see more opportunities in Bastianini than Martin because Bastianini has managed to give very good results for Ducati in several races.

That's obvious, but for now there are three more teams that are still possible for the riders to approach, Mooneyvr46, Pramac Racing, and also Repsol Honda.

Red Bull showed some unreliability in their power unit at the start of the season, now it's the Ferrari power units that have shown that they can be unreliable too.  4 cars with Ferrari power units had something going on.  Prolly over heated as smoke was coming out of the exhaust.

Here are the results..  I sincerely hope Ferrari does better this season.  The race become boring without them.

2022 F1 Azerbaijan GP Race Results

1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   51 Laps
2   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   + 20.823s
3   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   + 45.995s
4   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   + 71.679s
5   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   + 77.299s
6   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   + 84.099s
7   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   + 88.596s
8   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   + 92.207s
9   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   + 92.556s
10   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   + 108.184s
11   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   + 1 Lap
12   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   + 1 Lap
13   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   + 1 Lap
14   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   + 1 Lap
15   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   + 1 Lap
    Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   DNF
    Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   DNF
    Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   DNF
    Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   DNF
    Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   DNF

I just arrived home knowing in my head that the race starts at 15:00 European time just to check that more than half of the race has already taken place.I can't deny that I am happy seeing both Redbulls at the first and second as this means if nothing happens to them like a stroke of bad luck like it happened to Ferraris then I will get a winning bet after quite some time losing to the Ferraris.

Yesterday I am also mad for losing my bet as Leclerc was only making errors in every single lap during the qualifiers and managed to hit a perfect one in the end ruining my bet,now is a different story and is a pro story for me so far.

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Edit:  Ok Leclerc out too.  This is not funny anymore, I'll stop with the memes.  I feel for Leclerc and Sainz.  Just another stroke of bad luck for these guys.

Very good start from both RedBull cars, it can not go better for Perez and now also has a very good speed, Verstappen also had a good start but there was no passage in the first corner. Now it is to watch the race and what happens, probably there will also be an accident and safetycar. Should Perez win thus race the world championship will be a three-way fight, supposedly there is no stable order at Red Bull should both pilots can fight for the world title.

According to this article Enea Bastianini will be the successor of Miller, the article also says that Martin is not consistent enough for the factory team and delivers too many crashes.

Rins now comes to the second team of Aprilia, think this is a very good solution for Rins and Aprilia. Most places next year are taken, remain only LCR Honda, KTM Tech 3 one place and one place in the 2nd Aprilia team.

https://www.speedweek.com/motogp/news/193612/MotoGP-Teams-2023-Alle-wichtigen-Plaetze-besetzt.html

I still think my earlier point is valid, and it's been the case many times already this season: Ferrari have the fastest car over a single lap in qualifying set-up, but Red Bull have the fastest car over a full race distance. I don't know what the reason is, could be differing set-ups, could be the cars behaving differently with a full tank of fuel, could be tyre deg... but we've seen it many times, Leclerc starts off ahead and an RB slowly reels him in... and then Leclerc can't catch them.

Strange is actually with Ferrari they are in the top speed there and there only in the midfield but in other measurements again the fastest.

On the finish stretch RedBull is about 5 km/h faster than Ferrari, could be very exciting tomorrow the two cars are on the track about the same speed, but just at different points on the track. Tomorrow, any of the four can really win.

I did not expect Ferrari so competitive on a fast track.

Tomorrow will be a fun race with 4 cars so close one each other.

A dream lap from Leclerc and actually also from Perez, with slipstream Perez could have possibly also achieved pole position. But even so a very good result for Perez, tomorrow everything is possible for the top four. It will depend a lot on the team strategy, a small mistake like in Monaco can cost the victory again.