Mercedes is talking defensibly for this GP.
They are saying that this track is completely different in the layout from Sivlverstone so they are not sure if they will fight for the victory.
A big variable will be the climate, it will be a lot warmer this week so they are not sure that their car will be fast in such condition.
pre-tactic or true statement? that's the question.
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July 17, 2024, 03:44:17 PM
July 17, 2024, 07:27:27 AM
I think it's not about his age... It seems like the team doesn't think he's ready for F1. Not sure if this is true but I heard that Antonelli isn't doing good at F2 lately. But haven't confirmed it tho. Too lazy. Lol. But if you guys could that would be great. 
You are right about Kimi Antonelli. His recent statistics are really horrible.
0 points in last 3 feature races and only 11 points in total on those weekends. He had better improve his statistics to increase his chance for an early participation into Formula 1.
https://www.fiaformula2.com/Standings/Driver
Another race week is here which feels really good.
We have watched many rivalries between Verstappen and Hamilton on Hungaroring. Who knows maybe another one is waiting for us while Mercedes is also this good.I hope we see some reaction from Ferrari. They are too bad lately. I hope to see Leclerc fighting for podium at least. He doesn't deserve this kind of bad results.
Yeah no matter how they hype Antonelli, he isn't the next Verstappen imho. Verstappen is a rare talent that only comes once in a decade or two.
And not really sure what upgrades Mercedes did at Silverstone but I think Hamilton's win was a fluke. It's gonna be Red Bull vs McLaren again at Hungary, two of the best cars on the grid. McLaren is slightly better imho but they seem to botch races.
Here's something fun to watch...
2006 F1 Hungarian GP Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZi-_B-nkIE
July 17, 2024, 06:11:31 AM
The Grand Prix of Kazakhstan is now the third race of the season to be postponed or cancelled, after Argentina and India.
Instead of the race in Kazakhstan, a second race will be held in Misano.
At the moment there really are some problems with the organisers of the rings, and for my own sake I hope that Brno will return to the race calendar next year or the year after.
Instead of the race in Kazakhstan, a second race will be held in Misano.
At the moment there really are some problems with the organisers of the rings, and for my own sake I hope that Brno will return to the race calendar next year or the year after.
July 16, 2024, 03:53:12 PM
It is now official.
Team Haas will have Ferrari's engines until 2028 and maybe more.
Oliver Bearman, Ferrari' accademy driver will also be one of their driver.
It is a big thing, I remember to you that in 2026 we will have new generation of enigines.
In the past day we got some rumors for a potential deal between Haas and Toyota but at this point it dosent matters.
Team Haas will have Ferrari's engines until 2028 and maybe more.
Oliver Bearman, Ferrari' accademy driver will also be one of their driver.
It is a big thing, I remember to you that in 2026 we will have new generation of enigines.
In the past day we got some rumors for a potential deal between Haas and Toyota but at this point it dosent matters.
July 16, 2024, 08:30:34 AM
I think it's not about his age... It seems like the team doesn't think he's ready for F1. Not sure if this is true but I heard that Antonelli isn't doing good at F2 lately. But haven't confirmed it tho. Too lazy. Lol. But if you guys could that would be great.
You are right about Kimi Antonelli. His recent statistics are really horrible.
0 points in last 3 feature races and only 11 points in total on those weekends. He had better improve his statistics to increase his chance for an early participation into Formula 1.https://www.fiaformula2.com/Standings/Driver
Another race week is here which feels really good.
We have watched many rivalries between Verstappen and Hamilton on Hungaroring. Who knows maybe another one is waiting for us while Mercedes is also this good.I hope we see some reaction from Ferrari. They are too bad lately. I hope to see Leclerc fighting for podium at least. He doesn't deserve this kind of bad results.
July 16, 2024, 08:02:29 AM
We are in another race week now, the next stop is Hungary. What do you say about this GP? Do you expect Verstappen's two-race winning streak on this track to come to an end?
I think it is quite possible honestly. Like I said before, Red Bull has started to struggle way more than ever before. McLaren and Mercedes are attacking with all they have got. Norris is so unlucky recently by the way. He had potential more wins these days but wasted all the opportunities. I hope he can do some extra work in Hungary to get another win. I think Russell will also be extra ambitious after that disappointing race ending the last time.
What do you say about this GP? Do you expect Verstappen's two-race winning streak on this track to come to an end?I think it is quite possible honestly. Like I said before, Red Bull has started to struggle way more than ever before. McLaren and Mercedes are attacking with all they have got. Norris is so unlucky recently by the way. He had potential more wins these days but wasted all the opportunities. I hope he can do some extra work in Hungary to get another win. I think Russell will also be extra ambitious after that disappointing race ending the last time.
If we look at how RB has prepared to bring upgrades to the Hungarian race, it is very likely that Max will be able to win this race again, and they are quite optimistic about this - especially since Max is quite familiar with this track, it is a good opportunity for him to be able to win the race later. Even though there will be threats from Mercedes and McLaren, which have shown very good performance in recent races, this will not be a serious enough threat for Max and RB.
As for Ferrari itself, I don't expect too much from them, it's not that I don't hope that they can achieve good performance, but so far they don't seem serious about bringing good upgrades and how Charles has had a series of bad luck, it makes me pessimistic about they.
July 16, 2024, 07:04:37 AM
As it was already been announced by Wolff a couple of weeks ago, Alonso isn't interested in the second drive in Mercedes. And it's looking like Antonelli isn't getting the second drive either as the team wants him to take his time and stay at F2 for a couple more years. And there was Sainz, who looked like a done deal to get the second seat but then it looks like he's flaking out. The reason is he doesn't want to be just another Bottas that they could give a one or two year contract then his future would be in limbo.
And with all that, I think I know who would be willing to take the second drive and who wouldn't care if he's given just two years at Mercedes since he's already retired... I'm guessing Vettel will be back!
And with all that, I think I know who would be willing to take the second drive and who wouldn't care if he's given just two years at Mercedes since he's already retired... I'm guessing Vettel will be back!
Even though the FIA has changed the minimum age limit regulations to enter F1, it is quite unfortunate that Antonelli's team did not allow him to enter F1, perhaps because he is still not mature enough to enter there and if forced, his fate might be like the second Logan. And for other candidates like Max and Sainz, maybe they didn't choose Mercedes as their team, because as we already know, they already have their own chosen team. For Vettel himself, even though he has expressed his interest in entering F1, Mercedes may not be considering it. It may still be a mystery who will fill Mercedes' second seat next season.
I think it's not about his age... It seems like the team doesn't think he's ready for F1. Not sure if this is true but I heard that Antonelli isn't doing good at F2 lately. But haven't confirmed it tho. Too lazy. Lol. But if you guys could that would be great.
Anyway here's the next schedule for the next race this weekend.
2024 F1 Hungarian GP Schedule
Track: Hungaroring
Jul 19: Practice 1 13:30 - 14:30
Jul 19: Practice 2 17:00 - 18:00
Jul 20: Practice 3 12:30 - 13:30
Jul 20: Qualifying 16:00 - 17:00
Jul 21: Race 15:00
July 15, 2024, 06:03:06 AM
We are in another race week now, the next stop is Hungary. What do you say about this GP? Do you expect Verstappen's two-race winning streak on this track to come to an end?
I think it is quite possible honestly. Like I said before, Red Bull has started to struggle way more than ever before. McLaren and Mercedes are attacking with all they have got. Norris is so unlucky recently by the way. He had potential more wins these days but wasted all the opportunities. I hope he can do some extra work in Hungary to get another win. I think Russell will also be extra ambitious after that disappointing race ending the last time.
What do you say about this GP? Do you expect Verstappen's two-race winning streak on this track to come to an end?I think it is quite possible honestly. Like I said before, Red Bull has started to struggle way more than ever before. McLaren and Mercedes are attacking with all they have got. Norris is so unlucky recently by the way. He had potential more wins these days but wasted all the opportunities. I hope he can do some extra work in Hungary to get another win. I think Russell will also be extra ambitious after that disappointing race ending the last time.
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July 14, 2024, 08:39:27 PM
It seems that no one can break Toprak's dominance in WSBK with his BMW motorbike because yesterday at Race2 Doningtonpark England, Toprak was able to leave his opponent behind by up to 7.5 seconds. And this reflects that he still has more ability to compete in races on any circuit for the next few seasons as long as his motorbike suits him well enough. It seems that Toprak will be WSBK world champion with easier conditions this season which will make BMW feel quite happy because it has been a long time since BMW has won WSBK.
July 14, 2024, 01:22:28 PM
Jeremy Clarkson drops something about Adrian Newey’s.
As you may know the tv start was a school mate of Newey and he still is his friend.
In a recent Interview he said the following.
"he is not searching a Home in Maranello but he searching it in Oxfordshire"
SO TLDR
Accord Jeremy who is a friend of Adrian Newey, Newey will go to Aston Martin and not to Ferrari.
As you may know the tv start was a school mate of Newey and he still is his friend.
In a recent Interview he said the following.
"he is not searching a Home in Maranello but he searching it in Oxfordshire"
SO TLDR
Accord Jeremy who is a friend of Adrian Newey, Newey will go to Aston Martin and not to Ferrari.
July 14, 2024, 11:24:22 AM
As it was already been announced by Wolff a couple of weeks ago, Alonso isn't interested in the second drive in Mercedes. And it's looking like Antonelli isn't getting the second drive either as the team wants him to take his time and stay at F2 for a couple more years. And there was Sainz, who looked like a done deal to get the second seat but then it looks like he's flaking out. The reason is he doesn't want to be just another Bottas that they could give a one or two year contract then his future would be in limbo.
And with all that, I think I know who would be willing to take the second drive and who wouldn't care if he's given just two years at Mercedes since he's already retired... I'm guessing Vettel will be back!
And with all that, I think I know who would be willing to take the second drive and who wouldn't care if he's given just two years at Mercedes since he's already retired... I'm guessing Vettel will be back!
Yeah, Alonso doesn't want the seat at Mercedes. I would be happy to see Antonelli there considering how talented the young driver is.
Mercedes is already going to have a wonderful main driver like Russell. When Antonelli also improves his driving skills, Mercedes' future could be really interesting to see.When it comes to Sainz, there are still speculations about some teams but nothing certain yet. They said Audi first but now it is Alpine. I don't know how good Audi will enter Formula 1 but they have already determined their first driver: Hulkenberg.
I still don't feel like Vettel will be back but wouldn't say no to see him again.
July 14, 2024, 08:31:34 AM
As it was already been announced by Wolff a couple of weeks ago, Alonso isn't interested in the second drive in Mercedes. And it's looking like Antonelli isn't getting the second drive either as the team wants him to take his time and stay at F2 for a couple more years. And there was Sainz, who looked like a done deal to get the second seat but then it looks like he's flaking out. The reason is he doesn't want to be just another Bottas that they could give a one or two year contract then his future would be in limbo.
And with all that, I think I know who would be willing to take the second drive and who wouldn't care if he's given just two years at Mercedes since he's already retired... I'm guessing Vettel will be back!
And with all that, I think I know who would be willing to take the second drive and who wouldn't care if he's given just two years at Mercedes since he's already retired... I'm guessing Vettel will be back!
Even though the FIA has changed the minimum age limit regulations to enter F1, it is quite unfortunate that Antonelli's team did not allow him to enter F1, perhaps because he is still not mature enough to enter there and if forced, his fate might be like the second Logan. And for other candidates like Max and Sainz, maybe they didn't choose Mercedes as their team, because as we already know, they already have their own chosen team. For Vettel himself, even though he has expressed his interest in entering F1, Mercedes may not be considering it. It may still be a mystery who will fill Mercedes' second seat next season.
July 14, 2024, 07:39:50 AM
As it was already been announced by Wolff a couple of weeks ago, Alonso isn't interested in the second drive in Mercedes. And it's looking like Antonelli isn't getting the second drive either as the team wants him to take his time and stay at F2 for a couple more years. And there was Sainz, who looked like a done deal to get the second seat but then it looks like he's flaking out. The reason is he doesn't want to be just another Bottas that they could give a one or two year contract then his future would be in limbo.
And with all that, I think I know who would be willing to take the second drive and who wouldn't care if he's given just two years at Mercedes since he's already retired... I'm guessing Vettel will be back!
And with all that, I think I know who would be willing to take the second drive and who wouldn't care if he's given just two years at Mercedes since he's already retired... I'm guessing Vettel will be back!
July 14, 2024, 05:50:23 AM
Leaderboard after British GP
Pos Driver Nat. Team Wins Points
1 Max Verstappen NED Oracle Red Bull Racing 7 255
2 Lando Norris GBR McLaren F1 Team 1 171
3 Charles Leclerc MON Scuderia Ferrari 1 150
4 Carlos Sainz ESP Scuderia Ferrari 1 146
5 Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren F1 Team 0 124
6 Sergio Perez MEX Oracle Red Bull Racing 0 118
7 George Russell GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 1 111
8 Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 1 110
9 Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team 0 45
10 Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team 0 23
https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1052073/1/f1-world-championship-points-after-2024-british-grand-prix
Astonishing on how many points has with all the mistakes he makes.
Are we sure that RBR is not the best car still?
Pos Driver Nat. Team Wins Points
1 Max Verstappen NED Oracle Red Bull Racing 7 255
2 Lando Norris GBR McLaren F1 Team 1 171
3 Charles Leclerc MON Scuderia Ferrari 1 150
4 Carlos Sainz ESP Scuderia Ferrari 1 146
5 Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren F1 Team 0 124
6 Sergio Perez MEX Oracle Red Bull Racing 0 118
7 George Russell GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 1 111
8 Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 1 110
9 Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team 0 45
10 Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team 0 23
https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1052073/1/f1-world-championship-points-after-2024-british-grand-prix
Astonishing on how many points has with all the mistakes he makes.
Are we sure that RBR is not the best car still?
It was the case at the beginning of the season but I don't think currently they are that ahead in power.
Mercedes and McLaren have made a really important progress recently. We have seen how much Verstappen struggled in the British GP.He could have really finished at a much less position than that if didn't act smart with pit stops. He also says they aren't that comfortable anymore. Honestly I would still expect him to win another title this season but I'm not that confident when it comes to constructor championship. This could be the season for Red Bull's streak to be broken. This would lead to Perez's saying goodbye to the team of course whether Verstappen likes it or not.
July 14, 2024, 02:56:51 AM
Leaderboard after British GP
Pos Driver Nat. Team Wins Points
1 Max Verstappen NED Oracle Red Bull Racing 7 255
2 Lando Norris GBR McLaren F1 Team 1 171
3 Charles Leclerc MON Scuderia Ferrari 1 150
4 Carlos Sainz ESP Scuderia Ferrari 1 146
5 Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren F1 Team 0 124
6 Sergio Perez MEX Oracle Red Bull Racing 0 118
7 George Russell GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 1 111
8 Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 1 110
9 Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team 0 45
10 Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team 0 23
https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1052073/1/f1-world-championship-points-after-2024-british-grand-prix
Astonishing on how many points has with all the mistakes he makes.
Are we sure that RBR is not the best car still?
Pos Driver Nat. Team Wins Points
1 Max Verstappen NED Oracle Red Bull Racing 7 255
2 Lando Norris GBR McLaren F1 Team 1 171
3 Charles Leclerc MON Scuderia Ferrari 1 150
4 Carlos Sainz ESP Scuderia Ferrari 1 146
5 Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren F1 Team 0 124
6 Sergio Perez MEX Oracle Red Bull Racing 0 118
7 George Russell GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 1 111
8 Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 1 110
9 Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team 0 45
10 Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team 0 23
https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1052073/1/f1-world-championship-points-after-2024-british-grand-prix
Astonishing on how many points has with all the mistakes he makes.
Are we sure that RBR is not the best car still?
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July 13, 2024, 09:08:41 PM
I missed it because I didn't see the WSBK race schedule, which this week turned out to be a race in England and from the Free Practice, Superpole and Race1 sessions, Toprak had all been swept clean by occupying first place yesterday. Meanwhile, today I will take the time to watch the SP Race and also Race2 because the Doningtonpark circuit in England is a pretty beautiful circuit with a unique layout so it can make the race less boring. However, I see that Toprak is much stronger on the BMW motorbike he has been riding so far that it makes the Ducati riders look weak, especially the Ducati rider who was world champion in WSBK, namely Alvaro Bautista.
July 12, 2024, 01:02:43 PM
As I understood the miracle of the Mercedes recovery in performance was a very silly or easy one to fix.
The majority of the problem were caused from their suspensions.
Once they understood the cause of the general "slowness" of the car it was a quick fix to them.
The majority of the problem were caused from their suspensions.
Once they understood the cause of the general "slowness" of the car it was a quick fix to them.
July 12, 2024, 10:18:44 AM
And next year, Hamilton is coming in and I'm pretty sure Ferrari will have a hard time managing both Leclerc and Hamilton. Leclerc doesn't deserve to be treated as the second driver...
Pretty sure that's gonna happen tho as Ferrari will chase Hamilton's next driver's championship cos it's an easy sell for some kind of next level marketing.
Pretty sure that's gonna happen tho as Ferrari will chase Hamilton's next driver's championship cos it's an easy sell for some kind of next level marketing.
I hope marketing doesn't play such role in that. Leclerc absolutely shouldn't be the 2nd driver. Ferrari normally doesn't have any hierarchy anymore. But it is valid for Leclerc - Sainz situation of course. I wonder if this will change next season...
Leclerc and Hamilton both deserve to be treated in the same way.Hamilton is 7-time world champion, I have nothing against that. I admire his achievements. However this shouldn't cause Ferrari to overlook Leclerc's driving skills also. Leclerc has been in pain for years because of this incompetent team.
July 12, 2024, 07:17:48 AM
We have now the list of Sprint races for 2025.
I was expecting a bigger number but they are still 6.
We will have in this order
China
Miami
Belgium
Austin
Brazil
Qatar
Good selection of tracks but I wanted more, It is time to get more of these kinda miniraces on tracks where you can overtake.
I was expecting a bigger number but they are still 6.
We will have in this order
China
Miami
Belgium
Austin
Brazil
Qatar
Good selection of tracks but I wanted more, It is time to get more of these kinda miniraces on tracks where you can overtake.
More circuits might give us the opportunity to see more opportunities to get points for racers who haven't gotten points and also the excitement of overtaking, but this might reduce the excitement of the main race and will also increase costs for the teams, and This will be a burden for lower level teams. I feel that the 5 circuits are the right choice, because some time ago there was talk of increasing the number of races on the F1 schedule and the drivers and teams protested against this.
July 11, 2024, 09:02:13 AM
We have now the list of Sprint races for 2025.
I was expecting a bigger number but they are still 6.
We will have in this order
China
Miami
Belgium
Austin
Brazil
Qatar
Good selection of tracks but I wanted more, It is time to get more of these kinda miniraces on tracks where you can overtake.
I was expecting a bigger number but they are still 6.
We will have in this order
China
Miami
Belgium
Austin
Brazil
Qatar
Good selection of tracks but I wanted more, It is time to get more of these kinda miniraces on tracks where you can overtake.
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