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Quote from: tokeweed on June 15, 2024, 07:55:57 AM

^ I don't think there's gonna be another 'Verstappen' tbh. Verstappen is one in a million imho and he came in F1 without the media pressure. Toto Wolff should be careful in handling the new kid as he could fold under pressure. And could even cause an accident on the track. Must let him be and develop as a racer.

Yeah, maybe I got carried away too much. Tongue

Verstappen has really unique set of skills. It would still be great if Antonelli just focuses on his development completely. He can still be one of the best drivers in the future. He has long years ahead of him to work on it. I think Toto Wolff would know what kind of actions he should take. He wouldn't like to pressure him excessively.

If Mercedes makes big progress for 2026 season then I would be very keen on watching Russell - Antonelli duo closely. Grin

When it comes to Le Mans... Truthfully I don't have much knowledge about the sport. But it must be really difficult to drive these cars for many hours under any kind of weather conditions. Sad

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Well well...

Ferrari won for the second time in a row the 24 hours of LeMans.
It was an interesting race with a lot of rain.

The second Ferrari got also a good result completing the podium.

Superb weekend.

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Race 1 for WSBK yesterday really made me sleepy when Toprak slipped to the front so that no rider was able to catch him in Emilia Romagna. At the start of the race, Remy Gardner made a surprise by immediately placing himself at the front, but the Yamaha rider was also unable to stay at the front for long after being overtaken by the BMW motorbike driven by Toprak. Today the Superpole Race and Race2 will also start soon and I will also watch them until the end because there is no MotoGP race this week.

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I would say Kimi Antonelli would not really make "that" much of a change for Mercedes, don't get me wrong he is a great kid and all ,but I do not think that there is any need for a hype yet. Russell on the other hand is looking like he doesn't have that "finishing" ability, he drives very well but when he is at a situation where he has a chance to overtake and get a win, he fails to take that last chance.

In the end, Mercedes is getting a better and better car with the current design but we are nearing the end of the current design, I believe that until 2026 they are going to get nothing. After that, it will definitely be anyone's game, cars will be sooooo much different, lets see how it is going to impact the teams and which one will be better or worse.

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Quote from: moneystery on June 14, 2024, 07:13:53 AM

yamaha may have a less competitive bike performance compared to ducati, but since pramac is a team that needs better financial support, moving to yamaha may not be a bad choice since they offer good conditions for the payment of riders and bikes compared to what ducati offers them. but maybe that choice will affect their competitiveness on the circuit since yamaha is still in the development stage of their bike and no one can be sure whether the performance of their bike can be better or not.

The Prima Pramac Racing team's move from the Ducati brand to the Yamaha engine brand is not about whether the Yamaha engine itself is competitive or not. However, this was triggered by the drama that occurred in the Ducati camp itself, where Ducati had chosen Marquez to be placed in the Ducati factory team even though Marquez himself had just joined the Gresini Racing team which also uses Ducati engines this season with a contract duration of only one season. .

This is what made the Prima Pramac Racing team disappointed because Ducati itself did not choose a rider from Prima Pramac Racing, namely Jorge Martin, who has been fighting for a long time in the team and was also the runner-up rider last season and is currently the leader of the standings. It seems that you don't read and understand enough about the dramas that are happening in several teams in MotoGP at the moment.

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^ I don't think there's gonna be another 'Verstappen' tbh. Verstappen is one in a million imho and he came in F1 without the media pressure. Toto Wolff should be careful in handling the new kid as he could fold under pressure. And could even cause an accident on the track. Must let him be and develop as a racer.

Quote from: coinlocket$ on June 15, 2024, 05:26:31 AM

Maybe you don't know but they have made an important change to the Formula 1 registration rules.

the FIA has decided to lower the minimum age of a formula one driver, no big deal you might say.

But this fits perfectly with a possible arrival in Formula One next year of Kimi Antonelli, currently in Formula2.

would take over from Lewiz Hamilton.

The 17 year old phenom that everybody is so hell bent at comparing to Max Verstappen.. Grin

Yeah, they remind me of those football journos in the EPL who love making these funny comparisons of English players with Spanish greats. Like Jack Wilshere back in the day who was dubbed to be the 'English Iniesta'.. Cheesy

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on June 15, 2024, 05:26:31 AM

Maybe you don't know but they have made an important change to the Formula 1 registration rules.

the FIA has decided to lower the minimum age of a formula one driver, no big deal you might say.

But this fits perfectly with a possible arrival in Formula One next year of Kimi Antonelli, currently in Formula2.

would take over from Lewiz Hamilton.

Oh, really? This is wonderful news for Antonelli surely.

Mercedes is also starting a "Verstappen project" with Antonelli seemingly. Grin

I thought they would consider bringing a more experienced driver such as Sainz, Vettel or Alonso. But technically Russell has also gained a lot of experience until the age of 26. So I understand their choice.

By the way the regulation says that FIA will apply this change of rule to only the drivers of whom they admire the talent. So this means it isn't going to be an objective call. I hope this wouldn't be abused in the future. Sad

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Maybe you don't know but they have made an important change to the Formula 1 registration rules.

the FIA has decided to lower the minimum age of a formula one driver, no big deal you might say.

But this fits perfectly with a possible arrival in Formula One next year of Kimi Antonelli, currently in Formula2.

would take over from Lewiz Hamilton.

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Quote from: tokeweed on June 14, 2024, 07:38:36 AM

I think we'll def see Ferrari get back in form as they did in Monaco. As for the guys at Mercedes, I think we'll see them as they were before Canada. Lolol. Outside of the top 6. Grin

And it will be a competition between Red Bull, Ferrari and McLaren again. This is F1, not a somewhat unpredictable sport like MMA. It always goes back to its old and boring self. Cheesy

-snip-

I am quite optimistic that the upgrades that Ferrari will bring to their floors and some minor updates will hopefully be able to boost Ferrari's performance in the Spanish race later, because to be honest, Ferrari's performance in yesterday's race was very bad and embarrassing. Hopefully this upgrade will not be a downgrade for their performance.
And for McLaren, I still see that they are competitors besides RB, for Ferrari, they are a consistent team and the upgrades they have made are quite good at boosting their performance. And it is very likely that in the Spanish race later we will be able to see how RB, Ferrari and McLaren can compete with each other closely.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on June 13, 2024, 02:27:30 PM

Daniel Riccardo will be probably sacked at the end of the season.
According to the latest RB already said to him that he needs to improve to keep his seat.

We have also some info about Perez contract, it is not a 2 years deal but a 1+1 so if he will underperform they can sack him (maybe they can send him to Visa Cash and bring Tsunoda in RBR)

They resigned with Perez because Ricciardo did not so well last season, and they are keeping Perez next season as well if Daniel does badly this season as well. What people do not understand about Perez's seat is that it is not just about Perez being good or bad, it's also about having an alternative, so that means if Perez is bad, but Daniel is even worse then how are they going to make that change?

Alternative to that would be Yuki Tsunoda, and I think he is too wild and uncontrollable, which means that we are talking about a situation that would not be simple for them to get him under control and help the team instead. Which is why I believe that we are going to end up with Perez staying for a while longer until they find a better driver.

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Monza is changing the layout of the track.
In particular we have photo of 1st chicane.

The track is no larger and the turn has a bigger angle so it should be slower and with more overtakes.

Not clear yet if they are working in other parts of the track.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on June 12, 2024, 02:30:43 PM

After the terrible weekend Ferrari will try to anticipate the update of the Car.
The new floor of the car was expected for the next month but they are working hard to make it possible for the next race.

Can they do it?

Also Mercedes will bring a new floor for the following GP

I think we'll def see Ferrari get back in form as they did in Monaco. As for the guys at Mercedes, I think we'll see them as they were before Canada. Lolol. Outside of the top 6. Grin

And it will be a competition between Red Bull, Ferrari and McLaren again. This is F1, not a somewhat unpredictable sport like MMA. It always goes back to its old and boring self. Cheesy

Early market for Spain is 1.44 for Verstappen to win the race, Norris at 6.00 and Leclerc at 8.50... Russell is at 26.00? Lol. The books know Canada was a fluke.

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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on June 14, 2024, 01:14:13 AM

Rumors of Prima Pramac Racing's move in MotoGP from the Ducati brand to the Yamaha brand are increasingly emerging and Pramac Racing could even make the announcement before the contract period ends with Ducati. And I think this is a tension that is currently occurring in the MotoGP sphere at the moment so that there are many changes that will occur after this season is finished, especially since the second seat from the Aprilian manufacturer itself is also still empty until now or to be precise after the announcement of Maverick Vinales' move to Gasgas team.
https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/why-a-pramac-yamaha-motogp-union-is-best-for-all-parties/10622661/

yamaha may have a less competitive bike performance compared to ducati, but since pramac is a team that needs better financial support, moving to yamaha may not be a bad choice since they offer good conditions for the payment of riders and bikes compared to what ducati offers them. but maybe that choice will affect their competitiveness on the circuit since yamaha is still in the development stage of their bike and no one can be sure whether the performance of their bike can be better or not.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on June 13, 2024, 02:27:30 PM

Daniel Riccardo will be probably sacked at the end of the season.
According to the latest RB already said to him that he needs to improve to keep his seat.

We have also some info about Perez contract, it is not a 2 years deal but a 1+1 so if he will underperform they can sack him (maybe they can send him to Visa Cash and bring Tsunoda in RBR)

It wouldn't be surprising at all to see RB sacking him. So far in the races, there has been a serious gap between him and Tsunoda. There are many races Ricciardo couldn't even complete. His mind is just somewhere else obviously. He isn't as competitive as in the past. Sad

I really miss that Ricciardo driving for Red Bull...

The contract renewal with Perez is just nonsense as I already said. Even a 1+1 deal is meaningless while he is this horrible. Red Bull might even lose constructors championship this season because of Perez.

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Rumors of Prima Pramac Racing's move in MotoGP from the Ducati brand to the Yamaha brand are increasingly emerging and Pramac Racing could even make the announcement before the contract period ends with Ducati. And I think this is a tension that is currently occurring in the MotoGP sphere at the moment so that there are many changes that will occur after this season is finished, especially since the second seat from the Aprilian manufacturer itself is also still empty until now or to be precise after the announcement of Maverick Vinales' move to Gasgas team.
https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/why-a-pramac-yamaha-motogp-union-is-best-for-all-parties/10622661/

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Daniel Riccardo will be probably sacked at the end of the season.
According to the latest RB already said to him that he needs to improve to keep his seat.

We have also some info about Perez contract, it is not a 2 years deal but a 1+1 so if he will underperform they can sack him (maybe they can send him to Visa Cash and bring Tsunoda in RBR)

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I hope we have next race as enjoyable as this one too. Grin

Rain was the biggest factor though. If it weren't for that I assume it wouldn't be this chaotic.

I'm also sad for Ferrari. Leclerc was the victim of wrong tyre strategy. Sainz's DNF was because of his own mistake on slippery track. After this race indeed the gap between Verstappen and Leclerc has opened quite much. At least I'm trying to enjoy more exciting races this season. Catalunya track is also a track on which overtaking isn't too easy if I'm not mistaken. This makes me worried about watching a boring race but let's hope the opposite.

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Quote from: Distraction on June 13, 2024, 09:52:12 AM

Verstappen is much more comfortable in his place after the Canadian Grand Prix. I wish Leclerc had a much better race to follow him closer. Sad

I don't have an expectation like Verstappen to lose the title though. But at least seeing some competition would save the championship from being monotonous.

If only Ferrari strategists could do their job well, this could very well be achieved. Because to be honest, at yesterday's Canadian race, Charles was like a joke because the Ferrari strategist was not only stupid, but this was also exacerbated by his engine problems which made the performance of the VCARB much better than the Ferrari. I'm afraid things like this will affect Ferrari's performance and hopefully that's the last thing.

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There is news that is a bit exciting right now in the MotoGP sphere where Maverick Vinales will be leaving the Aprilia factory for the KTM Satellite team which is currently still sponsored by Gasgas. I am even surprised that Maverick Vinales chose to leave the factory team for an independent team because there are many other riders who are currently eyeing seats from any manufacturer. And from the official news, Maverick Vinales will team up with Bastianini next season for the KTM Tech3 Gasgas team.
Source: https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/vinales-makes-tech3-ktm-motogp-switch-alongside-bastianini-for-2025/10622885/

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Here is the current driver standings (top 10):

The full standings: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/standings/2024/

Verstappen is much more comfortable in his place after the Canadian Grand Prix. I wish Leclerc had a much better race to follow him closer. Sad

I don't have an expectation like Verstappen to lose the title though. But at least seeing some competition would save the championship from being monotonous.

Norris has made a huge improvement. He is really close to taking the 2nd place. McLaren is really getting better every year. This time big upgrades came much earlier and they are reaping the benefits now.

Perez is doing really bad. If he hasn't signed the new contract officially yet then there is still an opportunity for Red Bull to reconsider. Tongue

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