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2024 F1 British Grand Prix - Qualifying Results
Pos   Driver   Nat.   Team   Q1   Q2   Q3
1   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m30.106s   1m26.723s   1m25.819s
2   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m29.547s   1m26.770s   1m25.990s
3   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m31.596s   1m26.559s   1m26.030s
4   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m31.342s   1m26.796s   1m26.203s
5   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m30.895s   1m26.733s   1m26.237s
6   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m31.929s   1m26.847s   1m26.338s
7   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m30.557s   1m26.843s   1m26.509s
8   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m31.410s   1m26.938s   1m26.585s
9   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m31.135s   1m26.933s   1m26.640s
10   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m31.264s   1m26.730s   1m26.917s
11   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m30.496s   1m27.097s   
12   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   1m31.608s   1m27.175s   
13   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team   1m30.994s   1m27.269s   
14   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m31.190s   1m27.867s   
15   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team   1m31.291s   1m27.949s   
16   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m32.431s       
17   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m32.905s       
18   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m34.557s       
19   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m38.384s       
20   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m39.804s       

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1051933/1/2024-f1-british-grand-prix-qualifying-results


Crazy results in Britain.
Mercedes on top, and good result for Max with a damaged car he managed to be 4th.

The question is


Can Norris and Max do the 1st turn without collision?

Russell takes the pole! It was a really insane qualifying session.    Mercedes has made such a big progress recently. I thought they would be in the second row but they captured the first row. Norris seemed like the only driver who could answer but he used his last attempt really ineffectively. Verstappen also drove poorly. I don't know maybe it was him or the car. He lost control for a little time period but it caused him to lose important seconds.

Tomorrow the race is likely to be really fun.    Hamilton has the duty to keep Norris behind if he doesn't manage to overtake Russell at the start. I still think Norris has a good chance to win and Verstappen will finish right behind in that case.

1   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m37.529s
2   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m37.564s
3   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m37.714s
4   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m38.139s
5   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m38.393s
6   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m38.454s
7   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m38.654s
8   Sergio Perez   GBR   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m39.284s
9   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m39.340s
10   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m39.579s
11   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   1m39.603s
12   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team   1m39.702s
13   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m39.820s
14   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m39.868s
15   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m40.242s
16   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m40.430s
17   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m40.539s
18   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team   1m41.166s
19   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m41.785s
20   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   No Time Set

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1051869/1/2024-f1-british-grand-prix-final-practice-results

Raind day as expected, but the top drivers are always the same.

Expecing MAx pole if heavey rain, and Norris pole if light rain.

FP3 was under rain indeed and we have seen how much capable McLaren is under these conditions also.    They aren't joking at all for the weekend. They are here for the win and bring the maximum amount of points to the team. We are pretty likely to watch a really challenging race for the win considering the current odds given to qualifying and race both.



The odds on TrustDice: https://trustdice.win/sports/formula-1/outrights

Norris has really close odds to Verstappen to take pole once again just as the Austria one.    I think he has a really decent chance for the pole. Mercedes drivers are also expected to have a really competitive weekend.

FP3 got me disappointed after seeing a wet track.  :/  Both Hamilton and Russell got the top two spots.  So I'm wondering, are the Mercedes cars fast on the wets or inters?  And since there's a really high chance that quali will also have a wet track are the books right to have Mercedes af 2.25 to get pole while Red Bull is at 2.85 and McLaren is at 3.10?  

Another thing, how high are Ferrari's chance to be fast on the wet track?  Will 13.00 be worth it or nah?

And there's a red flag for the F2 race btw...  So it isn't looking good for quali.  I think am just gonna do my errands and skip this one.

I did not follow this week FPs and Qualifying, but I read some news that Marc got injuries in his finger and ribs during the first free practice.
Perhaps it affects his performance a lot so he was unable to perform his best in the qualifying race.
However he experienced similar thing twice at least, when he started from 13 and 14 but he managed to get podium.
Will he able to do it again with his current condition (finger and ribs injuries)?

Moto Gp had a intersting qualifying for the spring race.
We have Martin in pole position with a Bagnaia and in 4th position and Marquez in 13th.

Marquez really need improve the consistency if next year he wants to fight for the title when he will be on the main ducati

Second and third for for Aprilia, looks they are good in this track, can they win? probably no.

FP2 and German MotoGP Qualification will start soon and hopefully there will be no riders on this quite technical circuit because yesterday there was a red flag because the foam on the edge of the circuit broke. I'm a little curious about Marquez's appearance at this circuit because in the past he often won here on a Honda motorbike and now he is riding a different motorbike. So I want to see if he can win at his favorite circuit in the Sprint and Race tomorrow because Ducati also won here through Jorge Martin last season after competing fiercely with Bagnaia until the final lap.

McLaren has a better chance of winning this race than Mercedes or RB, they have really proven that the upgrades they have made are effective and capable of fighting RB. Hopefully it won't rain in this race, because this is a quite important race for McLaren and Lando, and the rain could destroy their strategy to get a podium in this race.

1   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m26.549s
2   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m26.880s
3   Sergio Perez   GBR   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m26.983s
4   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m26.990s
5   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m27.150s
6   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m27.202s
7   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m27.233s
8   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m27.249s
9   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m27.274s
10   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m27.294s
11   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m27.372s
12   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m27.381s
13   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m27.645s
14   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m27.732s
15   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m27.743s
16   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team   1m27.745s
17   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   1m27.809s
18   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m27.813s
19   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team   1m27.916s
20   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m28.122s

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1051743/1/2024-f1-british-grand-prix-friday-practice-results

As said they were slow with this year car.

In projection they can even go 1.25.5 or 1.25.0 , crazy improvments after the past year.

I'm always taking FP3 more serious than the other practice sessions. Because the first ones are more like a warm-up. But in FP3 drivers start performing way better as it is like a preparation for qualifying session.

So far Norris looks really determined which isn't surprising. He wants to dominate his home Grand Prix. But I don't expect such domination of course. Verstappen would never give up and we will probably see his usual defending style once again. He is going to be tough to be overtaken again surely. I don't expect any domination by any of them but a great rivalry.    My qualifying prediction is that Norris takes pole position.

In today's FP1 and Practice Nr1 sessions at the German MotoGP at the Sachsenring circuit, which is Marc Marquez's favorite circuit. He has had two crashes in the two sessions today so that means he can't set his best time in this session, but I'm pretty confident that he can achieve it in qualifying tomorrow because he has the record for most wins at Germany's Sachsenring circuit and it looks like It will be quite exciting to see the MotoGP Sprint and Race again in Germany this weekend.

Cause theya re going slow.

Pole position of 2023 was 1.26.7 so with the improvement of this year's car they can go easly near 1.26.0 or ever under 1.26.

I'm expecting a dominating max on this track from Qualifiing onwards

So I watched a bit of FP1 just to see if it's gonna rain.  It was cloudy but it didn't look like it was gonna rain.  So far so good.  Let's see what's in store for us at FP2...

Anyway here are the results.

2024 F1 British GP FP1 Results

Lando Norris   1:27.420      
Lance Stroll   1:27.554   +0.134s   
Oscar Piastri   1:27.631   +0.211s   
Max Verstappen   1:27.729   +0.309s   
George Russell   1:27.738   +0.318s   
Fernando Alonso   1:27.794   +0.374s   
Lewis Hamilton   1:27.858   +0.438s   
Charles Leclerc   1:27.903   +0.483s   
Carlos Sainz   1:27.925   +0.505s   
Esteban Ocon   1:27.974   +0.554s   
Nico Hulkenberg   1:28.082   +0.662s   
Valtteri Bottas   1:28.254   +0.834s   
Daniel Ricciardo   1:28.477   +1.057s   
Oliver Bearman   1:28.536   +1.116s   
Zhou Guanyu   1:28.590   +1.170s   
Alexander Albon   1:28.649   +1.229s   
Jack Doohan   1:28.735   +1.315s   
Franco Colapinto   1:29.078   +1.658s   
Isack Hadjar   1:29.270   +1.850s   
Yuki Tsunoda   1:29.864   +2.444s   

^  How in the hell did Lance Stroll get second place with McLaren and Red Bull looking like they weren't sand bagging? 

There is no need to worry that Sainz cannot get a seat in F1 in 2025, because he is not a bad driver and he has a good portfolio where if he wants he can choose which team he wants. He is currently just looking at which team will give him a good offer for the 2025 season and I think it is very likely that Alpine will be his choice.

And as for Bearman, I hope that he can maintain people's expectations of him and not disappoint in his first debut at HAAS. and hopefully he can give the best performance.

I think it's a good start for a 19-year-old, because the pressure to succeed is simply lower at Haas than at Ferrari, for example. If he doesn't make it into the top 10 in qualifying at Haas, the world won't end, but it better not happen three times in a row at Ferrari. So I think it's a good start for a young talent to gain experience with a team that isn't under pressure to succeed and to get to know Formula 1, plus he has an old hand (Magnussen) as a team-mate.

It might be a nice opportunity for Bearman to get some experience and bring his career to a better place. He is still 19. It is really difficult for him to find himself a place at Ferrari for years obviously.    I think driving an F1 car for a full season is way better than being a reserve driver for a team. When he got the opportunity at Ferrari for the first time, he had a really decent driving. I hope to see it more.

But the car he is going to drive won't be as stable as a Ferrari though. He must be well-prepared because of that. Cars like this always carry extra risks for rookies. I hope Bearman can handle this responsibility.

Bearman, the driver who took the spot of Sainz during the race skipped for his healty problem some months ago, signed a deal with Haas

I didn't fully get if Ferrari lost the control of the driver or it is just a "free loan" to get him some expirience, like Redbull is sending drivers to Visa Cash app car, aka ToroRosso.

The Haas team announced today that the young talent Oliver Bearman has signed a multi-year contract. It is not yet known whether Magnussen will be his team-mate, but for a young driver it would certainly not be a bad idea to have an experienced driver at his side.

For Sainz, on the other hand, it will be very tight, there are not many cockpits left in Formula 1 for Sainz.

Yeah I have also seen it on some sources but it really doesn't look like more than a rumour now. If such transfer comes true then I can't imagine Aston Martin's future.    Adrian Newey is one of the best engineers and designers Formula 1 has ever had in history.

By the way another thing I have heard of is that Toto Wolff was interested in bringing Alonso to Mercedes in the past. However Alonso's answer was negative for that. He simply doesn't want to join a team which he feels like he doesn't have a chance to win another championship.    I'm not blaming him for that of course. He is still ambitious and Aston Martin might give him what he wants maybe before his retirement if Newey joins.