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Pecco is untouchable since free practice, no one can break his domination at Assen.
Today's race was boring for the 1-2 position of course but the competition for the 3rd position was interesting where there were at least 4 riders compete for the 3rd position.
Now Pecco is 10 points only behind Martin which means that there is a chance for Pecco to take over the leaderboard from Martin next week.
Anyway the best rider for me today is Enea who took the last spot on the podium, if he could the same since the 1st lap, I think he will be able to compete Martin and Pecco.
For three seasons, Pecco Bagnaia has won the race at TT Assen (2022, 2023 and 2024), namely today with no rider able to catch him after the start. However, on the one hand, I was also quite impressed with Enea Bastianini who fought to get the third podium today after being able to compete with many other riders including Diggia, Marquez and Vinales. This is truly a very extraordinary thing for Bastianini and very impressive that he was able to go from a bad position to a better position in today's Assen race.
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Russell P1. What an unbelievable race.

After many races, finally we were presented with a very intense battle, how Max and Lando fought for P1, overtook each other, and ended tragically with Lando DNF and Max only P5. Even though this was a race on RB's home circuit, and from the start everyone had expected that Max could win the race smoothly, but in the middle of the race the margin suddenly decreased for Max and Lando came aggressively to overtake Max. This is what we are waiting for, a fierce race. But will this be a new chapter in the strained relationship between Lando and Max? because we know that they are close friends, and this is a race that RB hopes that Max will come out as the winner, but it has to be dashed because of Lando? but whatever it is, congratulations to Mercedes and Russell for P1.
And for Charles, I hope that his bad luck will not get worse, to be honest his performance is getting worse because of Ferrari's inconsistent strategy.
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Moto Gp results.

Was a boring race to see, nothing happens and 3 of the top 4 of this race will end in the top 3 of the leaderboard at the end of the season.

Source: https://www.crash.net/motogp/results/1051500/1/2024-dutch-motogp-assen-race-results

Pecco is untouchable since free practice, no one can break his domination at Assen.
Today's race was boring for the 1-2 position of course but the competition for the 3rd position was interesting where there were at least 4 riders compete for the 3rd position.
Now Pecco is 10 points only behind Martin which means that there is a chance for Pecco to take over the leaderboard from Martin next week.
Anyway the best rider for me today is Enea who took the last spot on the podium, if he could the same since the 1st lap, I think he will be able to compete Martin and Pecco.
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2024 Dutch MotoGP, Assen - Race Results
Pos   Rider   Nat   Team   Time/Diff
1   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Ducati Lenovo (GP24)   40m 7.214s
2   Jorge Martin   SPA   Pramac Ducati (GP24)   +3.676s
3   Enea Bastianini   ITA   Ducati Lenovo (GP24)   +7.073s
4   Marc Marquez   SPA   Gresini Ducati (GP23)   +7.868s
5   Fabio Di Giannantonio   ITA   VR46 Ducati (GP23)   +8.299s
6   Maverick Viñales   SPA   Aprilia Racing (RS-GP24)   +8.258s
7   Brad Binder   RSA   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   +16.005s
8   Alex Marquez   SPA   Gresini Ducati (GP23)   +21.095s
9   Raul Fernandez   SPA   Trackhouse Aprilia (RS-GP23)   +22.368s
10   Franco Morbidelli   ITA   Pramac Ducati (GP24)   +23.413s

Moto Gp results.

Was a boring race to see, nothing happens and 3 of the top 4 of this race will end in the top 3 of the leaderboard at the end of the season.

Source: https://www.crash.net/motogp/results/1051500/1/2024-dutch-motogp-assen-race-results
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Max Verstappen destroyed everyone.
In the sprint race, Norris got an opportunity overtaking him but he got hyped and he ruined everything after few turns.
In the qualy, he was on another planet, he umiliated the others.

The race will be fun however in this track when you can overtake.

We'll see...  Verstappen and Red Bull looks like they're on a roll.  The race could be good but not really expecting much from the guys behind Verstappen.  Hopefully we'll see Norris win for the lulz tho.

Anyway, race is in 8 minutes! LFG!

And I just checked the odds.  Rofl they have Verstappen at 1.05.  I don't think the bookies would give this line if they thought there's a slight chance he'll lose.  Cheesy Cheesy
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Before the weekend started I thought Norris would bring some competition to Verstappen as usual. However it doesn't seem likely now.  Tongue

Norris is very close to Max but he keeps doing silly mistakes.
The race tomorrow will be decided by the tyres.

Who will have the best management will probably win the race, also If I understood correctly Max has 1 more set of fresh tyres.
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Before the weekend started I thought Norris would bring some competition to Verstappen as usual. However it doesn't seem likely now.  Tongue

Verstappen has been really comfortable during the whole weekend as you have also seen. Taking pole was so easy. I got sad for Piastri by the way as his best lap was invalid because of being out of track limits. Seventh position is still not a too bad position to start from though.

Leclerc was a disappointment after making a mistake in his best lap attempt in Q3. He has been uncomfortable so far too. I don't have much expectation from him in the race either.  Sad
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Max Verstappen destroyed everyone.
In the sprint race, Norris got an opportunity overtaking him but he got hyped and he ruined everything after few turns.
In the qualy, he was on another planet, he umiliated the others.

The race will be fun however in this track when you can overtake.
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Overall, Francesco Bagnaia is truly untouchable so he has always been at the front since FP1, Practice, FP2 and also in qualifying and in today's TT Assen MotoGP Sprint Race. Meanwhile, Marquez again experienced bad luck during qualifying and also during today's Sprint because he fell in both sessions, making him unable to steal points in this Sprint session. Meanwhile, Vinales and Jorge Martin both finished second and third, although if you look at the fierce battle, they were in fifth place and was successfully occupied by Diggia from the VR46 Racing team.
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Alpine is still a sensible and better choice for Sainz compared to Williams.

I agree with that though. If Sainz has only Alpine and Williams as options for 2025 then it had better be Alpine.  Tongue  Williams is getting worse day by day while Alpine is progressing towards the opposite way. Albon is also wasting his time at Williams truthfully.



Sprint race was average. We saw some overtakes but not much competition for the win also. So far we have all seen how dominant Verstappen is.

I must admit I see him taking the pole position already.  Smiley  McLarens are also given a good chance indeed. It wouldn't be bad to give especially Norris a try. Piastri looked ambitious during the sprint race but I think Norris will do better in qualifying.

Full results for the sprint: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/results/2024/austrian-gp-639961/?st=SPR
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^  At qualifying, sure, Norris will have a shot as the McLaren could have the slightly better car.  But for the race, even with Norris' slight speed advantage during qualifying, Verstappen wins the race 8 out of 10.  Red Bull just has the better team overall from the pit crew to the driver.

Just a tad over an hour to go before quali.  I'm excited for this one.

Either McLaren driver to get pole is at 3.00.  Wink
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What a disaster for Ferrari and Leclerc but it was an unlucky moment.
Tomorrow it will be a fun race since you can overtake on this track.

Fun stat, Max now has more pole position in pole sprint than all the other drives combined.

Lando may have a shot Sunday but idk about tomorrow.
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After watching FP1 and the MotoGp TT Assen Practice session today in very sunny weather conditions, I think tomorrow's Sprint and qualifying will be very exciting and even the competition on Sunday could also be very fierce in a full race. The Assen circuit is a very technical circuit and also requires quite a lot of braking apart from requiring better balance on the motorbike and I believe that the front row will be dominated by Ducati even though Aprilia could also be a threat to them in Sunday's race.
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-snip-

As again Lando is the nearest rival, in his best lap he also did a mistake or it could be closer or ahead of Max in his best lap.

It was very bad that Lando finished FP1 by finishing in P13, if only he didn't make mistakes, he could definitely get a good position, but he couldn't achieve that. Hopefully in FP2 he can improve his performance and get a good position, because to be honest I hope that at least Lando or Charles can beat Max on the Red Bull home circuit (even though that chance is quite small lol).
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Great pace for Max Verstappen with an advantage of 0.2 sec in the 1st hour.
Verstappen also caused a red flag during the 1sat hour of the session but his car got no damage and Redbull ound the sensor problem that got the car stopped.

As again Lando is the nearest rival, in his best lap he also did a mistake or it could be closer or ahead of Max in his best lap.
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^  Wut...  I thought he was gonna start pro tennis.  Cheesy

Now it is time for Red Bull's home, Austria.  Smiley  They will feel the pressure for sure to get a win on this track. They will rely on Verstappen on that of course as Perez is a hopeless case.  Tongue  It is still hard to absorb the fact that Red Bull extended Perez's contract. Just because Verstappen wants it that way they are doing this. However when Red Bull fails to win constructors championship I think they are going to handle the situation seriously.

I hope we have a good weekend. Even the Spain GP was fun despite its being known as boring. It is much easier to overtake on Austria track. I can say all of the DRS zones are allowing easy overtakes.

The guy who should try harder to be quick this weekend is Daniel Ricciardo if he really wants the second drive at Red Bull.  If there's a spot to convince Horner and Marko, it's here.  I don't feel the same for Tsunoda as the reason he went to Alpha Tauri or whatever they're called these days is because of the partnership with Honda.  But that's a goner in a couple of years.  So yeah...  Tsunoda prolly a goner too on 2026 or prolly next year?

2024 F1 Austrian GP FP1 Results

Max Verstappen   1:05.685      
Oscar Piastri   1:05.961   +0.276s   
Charles Leclerc   1:06.055   +0.370s   
Carlos Sainz   1:06.128   +0.443s   
Lewis Hamilton   1:06.254   +0.569s   
Esteban Ocon   1:06.297   +0.612s   
Lance Stroll   1:06.384   +0.699s   
George Russell   1:06.386   +0.701s   
Yuki Tsunoda   1:06.579   +0.894s   
Fernando Alonso   1:06.603   +0.918s   
Pierre Gasly   1:06.734   +1.049s   
Sergio Perez   1:06.783   +1.098s   
Lando Norris   1:06.880   +1.195s   
Zhou Guanyu   1:06.919   +1.234s   
Valtteri Bottas   1:06.925   +1.240s   
Daniel Ricciardo   1:06.962   +1.277s   
Nico Hulkenberg   1:06.966   +1.281s   
Alexander Albon   1:06.995   +1.310s   
Kevin Magnussen   1:07.145   +1.460s   
Logan Sargeant   1:07.259   +1.574s   
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Lance Stoll also extended his contract with his dad car for more years, what a surprise right? Cheesy

Sainz basically confirmed that Alpine asked to him to sign with them, does he will accept or does he will wait for Audo?
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Now it is time for Red Bull's home, Austria.  Smiley  They will feel the pressure for sure to get a win on this track. They will rely on Verstappen on that of course as Perez is a hopeless case.  Tongue  It is still hard to absorb the fact that Red Bull extended Perez's contract. Just because Verstappen wants it that way they are doing this. However when Red Bull fails to win constructors championship I think they are going to handle the situation seriously.

I hope we have a good weekend. Even the Spain GP was fun despite its being known as boring. It is much easier to overtake on Austria track. I can say all of the DRS zones are allowing easy overtakes.
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-snip-

Alpine, hmm... Yeah, Sainz has a history with Renault. However Alpine is quite inconsistent. A terrible start to the season and now they have just started to heal. I don't know how much they can offer to Sainz.  Sad

Alpine is still a sensible and better choice for Sainz compared to Williams. Even though Alpine is one of the constructors with poor performance, they still want to make improvements and the presence of Sainz in their team can be a motivation for them to improve their performance. And also, after Gasly signed a contract with Alpine, it strengthened the reason that Sainz would choose them, because Sainz and Gasly are old friends, they were at Red Bull together and they are still close to this day. So yeah, Alpine is the most logical reason for Sainz to choose over Williams.
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Big extension on his contract for Pierre Gasly.
The driver just extended his contract with alpine.

He agreed a multi-year extension with the French Team.
So he will stay there for the year 2025 and more after.

Oh, nice to hear that. Gasly definitely deserves it because of his competitive nature and "knowing his limits" also. The quoted part is for Ocon especially.  Tongue  Because he just doesn't know his limits at all. We all know what he did in Monaco GP against his teammate. This also affected him to lose his seat at Alpine after this season.

Gasly is really ambitious however Alpine should give him a better car at the same time. It is getting better lately though as we saw Alpines in top 10 for the last 3 races.

His Red Bull times come to my mind. He is more experienced now. I'm confident he would do much better than Perez.  Grin
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