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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 12, 2023, 02:44:15 PM

We are only 2 races away from at the end of the season now. I'm getting more curious about what action Red Bull will decide to take about Perez situation. As we have known his performance has dropped down a lot lately. It dropped so sharply that we even started to see some amateurish mistakes from him like the one at the beginning of the Mexico GP and there was his weird incident during the Suzuka GP. Sad

We don't have the same old Perez anymore at least for now. I wonder whether he can collect himself until next season to return stronger. If he believes that he can manage to fix his current concentration problems then I would like him to stay at Red Bull. Because I don't feel like Ricciardo can guarantee performing better than Perez. We don't have a competitive Ricciardo anymore.

For me he is already out of RedBull team in F1 and maybe also out of F1.... i don t know what are his plans and what also has RedBull in is mind, and who is gonna be his replace, maybe Ricciardo? i dont know.... Some guys are getting old and so much young blood is waiting to take the seats.

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We are only 2 races away from at the end of the season now. I'm getting more curious about what action Red Bull will decide to take about Perez situation. As we have known his performance has dropped down a lot lately. It dropped so sharply that we even started to see some amateurish mistakes from him like the one at the beginning of the Mexico GP and there was his weird incident during the Suzuka GP. Sad

We don't have the same old Perez anymore at least for now. I wonder whether he can collect himself until next season to return stronger. If he believes that he can manage to fix his current concentration problems then I would like him to stay at Red Bull. Because I don't feel like Ricciardo can guarantee performing better than Perez. We don't have a competitive Ricciardo anymore.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 11, 2023, 06:57:27 AM

Bagnaia lost points again.
Luckily for him, Martin ended in second position.

His advantage now is only 13 points.

It is 14 points now, it will be great to see that the competition between Pecco and Martin for the title will be determined in the last race.
Martin is a great rider and he is still young compared to other, lets say he fails to steal the title this season, I hope he will do it in the next season.

Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 11, 2023, 06:31:25 PM

Some rumors about Moto GP.

Marini will probably join Honda next Year.

And I think it will be a mistake leaving Ducati, but you know...

Without a doubt Ducati is the best bike this season, how about Honda next season? Will Honda be able to make significant improvement to be more competitive?
If we look at the current situation, moving to Honda is a mistake ofc but we do not know what will happen with Marini + Honda next season.
Perhaps Marini want to take a risky challenge so he wants to move to Honda, but I think it will be better if he stays.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 11, 2023, 06:31:25 PM

Some rumors about Moto GP.

Marini will probably join Honda next Year.

And I think it will be a mistake leaving Ducati, but you know...

We don't know the basics behind this move.Of course Ducati is the most powerful bike at the moment but wasn't McLaren the fastest car or near the fastest car when Lewis Hamilton moved to Mercedes just to make an analogy and we all know how that story went well for Lewis Hamilton after that.

The same can happen to Marini and since he is not winning any Championship nor fighting for the title here at MotoGP,based on this I can understand such move from him,maybe he thinks that Honda will come back and he would be happy to be riding for them when this happens.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on November 12, 2023, 05:10:51 AM

Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 11, 2023, 06:31:25 PM

Some rumors about Moto GP.

Marini will probably join Honda next Year.

And I think it will be a mistake leaving Ducati, but you know...

Switching from Ducati to Honda is probably the worst thing you can do at the moment, unless you can't get a place with a team.

For Bastianini an almost perfect weekend and come back, Bagnaia also did the best for himself and the world championship and even made up a point on Martin, even if 14 points with two races to go is not much.

It is indeed not a good choice to leave the best motorbike on the current grid and switch to a motorbike that is very difficult to finish a race, if it is true that Marini accepted an offer from Honda, of course there are other things that he saw so he accepted the offer from Honda.

A very good race for Bastianini today because he managed to get first today with two series remaining, of course this will add more opponents to Martin and Bagnaia.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 11, 2023, 06:31:25 PM

Some rumors about Moto GP.

Marini will probably join Honda next Year.

And I think it will be a mistake leaving Ducati, but you know...

Switching from Ducati to Honda is probably the worst thing you can do at the moment, unless you can't get a place with a team.

For Bastianini an almost perfect weekend and come back, Bagnaia also did the best for himself and the world championship and even made up a point on Martin, even if 14 points with two races to go is not much.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 10, 2023, 06:10:14 PM

Martin is indeed more talented IMHO.

But if Bagnana will lose the title it will be only his fault, since at the start of the season he slept 3 times alone when he was leading or close to leading the race.

Yesterday in the Sprint Bagnaia also couldn't make up the points gap so Martin again cut the points gap a little more and today there might be more interesting surprises so the race will be even more exciting with their battles with those of the other riders. Bagnaia must not make any more mistakes today if he wants to retain his title.

Quote from: moneystery on November 11, 2023, 04:12:03 AM

i think both riders are talented, now it's just a matter of whose strategy is better. martin has set a strategy that he will play not aggressively because in several races he tried to play aggressively and that was quite dangerous for his position. and bagnaia also made a strategy to be faster at the start and try to get the best position in the qualifying session for the best place in the race.

so both drivers really prepare themselves for the best and if they lose it's not their own fault because they don't just race alone, but together with the team that designs their racing strategy.

Let's see how the two of them carry out their strategy, because other drivers will also be obstacles for those who are chasing the title this season. Martin will still be as strong as yesterday in the Sprint and Alex Marquez will probably also be a very real nuisance for both of them today because yesterday he was absolutely outstanding in the Sprint.

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Some rumors about Moto GP.

Marini will probably join Honda next Year.

And I think it will be a mistake leaving Ducati, but you know...

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Next race will be Las Vegas one, that is going to definitely be a fun one without a doubt for racers. I mean we are talking about somewhere "new" give or take, even though there has been races there before, F1 added it recently. I think it is going to be a bit shocking because not that many racers have raced there, so that means they do not have enough time there and this could change a lot.

It does bring in rookies (or young racers) closer to older ones, because when you are that good, as a veteran, you know how to save and all, but when you do not have track experience that much, it does bring in racers closer. This doesn't really apply to many teams, but could apply to ones like Mercedes, where I believe experience of Hamilton brought in a lot more points to him so far, and Russell could definitely give him a run for his money this race around. Lets see, we are going to see a race where I bet that some unexpected results will happen for sure.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 10, 2023, 06:10:14 PM

Martin is indeed more talented IMHO.

But if Bagnana will lose the title it will be only his fault, since at the start of the season he slept 3 times alone when he was leading or close to leading the race.

In any case, it will be Bagnaia's own fault this season if he loses the title. He already had a big lead, but due to the many crashes he has lost his points cushion. But I still think he will manage to win the title.

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Bagnaia lost points again.
Luckily for him, Martin ended in second position.

His advantage now is only 13 points.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 10, 2023, 06:10:14 PM

Martin is indeed more talented IMHO.

But if Bagnana will lose the title it will be only his fault, since at the start of the season he slept 3 times alone when he was leading or close to leading the race.

i think both riders are talented, now it's just a matter of whose strategy is better. martin has set a strategy that he will play not aggressively because in several races he tried to play aggressively and that was quite dangerous for his position. and bagnaia also made a strategy to be faster at the start and try to get the best position in the qualifying session for the best place in the race.

so both drivers really prepare themselves for the best and if they lose it's not their own fault because they don't just race alone, but together with the team that designs their racing strategy.

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Quote from: Davian144 on November 10, 2023, 01:52:47 PM

That's really not good because Martin continued to show his strength in the two sessions that took place today (FP1 and Practice). Bagnaia must be able to recover in qualifying tomorrow to place himself on a better grid so he can go faster when he starts the Sprint and Race on Sunday. If Bagnaia continues like that and doesn't immediately make a comeback in the remaining series of this season, his title may be completely lost this season.

Martin is indeed more talented IMHO.

But if Bagnana will lose the title it will be only his fault, since at the start of the season he slept 3 times alone when he was leading or close to leading the race.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 10, 2023, 08:51:55 AM

There is a difference for the Las Vegas Grand Prix in addition to its being held for the first time after 41 years. This difference is the days of the race weekend. Because this time we are going to watch a race on Saturday. I guess that it must be the first ever race which is organized for this day in Formula 1.

Apart from that I really wonder what kind of a race we will watch. Even though the drivers are going to race here for the first time I still expect Verstappen to maintain his dominance.

By the way have you seen the design of the kerbs? It is quite interesting and lovely I think.

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It looks really awesome! Cheesy

It is just fitting Las Vegas as it is a place known with 7/24 casinos and so on.

I hope to see a different driver winning this Grand Prix. Verstappen is a special driver with an incredibly fast car. Therefore it isn't easy to defeat him even on an unfamiliar track for all of the drivers. I presume there wouldn't be any big team other than Red Bull bringing a huge update to their cars for this race. In the end the season is about to finish. I especially wonder how fast Mercedes and McLaren will be here.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 10, 2023, 10:15:02 AM

Not so great for Bagnaia, he may lose the title here

That's really not good because Martin continued to show his strength in the two sessions that took place today (FP1 and Practice). Bagnaia must be able to recover in qualifying tomorrow to place himself on a better grid so he can go faster when he starts the Sprint and Race on Sunday. If Bagnaia continues like that and doesn't immediately make a comeback in the remaining series of this season, his title may be completely lost this season.

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Pos   Rider   Nat   Team   Time/Diff   Lap   Max
1   Alex Marquez   SPA   Gresini Ducati (GP22)   1'57.823s   19/19   331k
2   Jorge Martin   SPA   Pramac Ducati (GP23)   +0.174s   19/20   333k
3   Jack Miller   AUS   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   +0.409s   19/20   334k
4   Brad Binder   RSA   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   +0.484s   19/19   334k
5   Maverick Viñales   SPA   Aprilia Racing (RS-GP23)   +0.489s   15/17   333k
6   Luca Marini   ITA   Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22)   +0.511s   21/21   330k
7   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.576s   15/19   331k
8   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Ducati Lenovo (GP23)   +0.597s   16/20   334k
9   Marco Bezzecchi   ITA   Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22)   +0.627s   18/21   333k
10   Johann Zarco   FRA   Pramac Ducati (GP23)   +0.664s   15/16   331k

Source: https://www.crash.net/motogp/results/1040486/1/malaysian-motogp-sepang-friday-practice-results

Not so great for Bagnaia, he may lose the title here

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 10, 2023, 08:51:55 AM

There is a difference for the Las Vegas Grand Prix in addition to its being held for the first time after 41 years. This difference is the days of the race weekend. Because this time we are going to watch a race on Saturday. I guess that it must be the first ever race which is organized for this day in Formula 1.

Apart from that I really wonder what kind of a race we will watch. Even though the drivers are going to race here for the first time I still expect Verstappen to maintain his dominance.

By the way have you seen the design of the kerbs? It is quite interesting and lovely I think.

I think they have found the right design for the kerbs considering we are racing in Las Vegas which has been advertised before the start of the season as the most beautiful race of this season so I am very much looking forward to it next week,unfortunately we have to wait another week to see such beautiful action on track.Those cards designs for the kerbs coincide exactly with what happens in Vegas,gambling to the fullest and they also call it the city that never sleeps referring to 24 hours casinos open all night.

For the dominance though I would not be surprised if someone else starts doing better than Verstappen although highly unlikely.

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There is a difference for the Las Vegas Grand Prix in addition to its being held for the first time after 41 years. This difference is the days of the race weekend. Because this time we are going to watch a race on Saturday. I guess that it must be the first ever race which is organized for this day in Formula 1.

Apart from that I really wonder what kind of a race we will watch. Even though the drivers are going to race here for the first time I still expect Verstappen to maintain his dominance.

By the way have you seen the design of the kerbs? It is quite interesting and lovely I think.

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No F1 this week Shocked

I thought they were racing this week but nope, they will race almost in December this year. crazy.

Isn't almost winter in Las Vegas?

Are they racing with freezing time?

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Quote from: emrecemsan on November 09, 2023, 04:10:34 PM

As a result I would really like to see a driver like Alonso beside him. We can at least see some competition between the drivers of the same team for the title.

But of course neither Red Bull nor Verstappen would like this idea.

Max is currently the face of Red Bull and F1. For sure, Red Bull will always like their boy to get the title and to make the world know that they are the best team through this guy. I think at this point, we cannot blame how well built RB19 was. Perez and Verstappen have the same spec'd car but Verstappen always seem to slide past Perez that the latter doesn't seem to be any competition to Max at all. Of course there are some strategies and team calls wherein Perez have to give up the position or help Max get the pole, but I guess it's also on how Max utilizes and drives the car to its full potential.

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