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If I remember correctly today is the day where F1 presentation cars start or maybe 8 February don't remember well but what I mean is that we are near the start of the new season when team presentations start.We have just two days for testing before the first race and we can have a good overview about team performances and if we will see some Redbull domination like we have seen in these past couple of years or some new team has come to fight hard this season.
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Here's the thing.  F1 teams not only acquire drivers just to drive.  They acquire them also for their experience and by giving their inputs to the team's engineers in how to tweak and set up the car.  Vettel's position in Aston Martin was something like it imo.

And at over 40, Hamilton's reflexes are still sharp.  So with a decent car, he still could win races at any given weekend.  It's not like Raikonnen in that last season he retired when you could see there were a few times he could've caused a crash as it was starting to look like he was losing his reflexes as an F1 driver.

Of course, a driver also has to be strong in terms of development. Michael Schumacher, for example, was one such driver who helped build up a team over the years, as he did at Ferrari and Mercedes.

Hamilton's reflexes will also fade, but he's still fully motivated. In Räikkönen's case, I don't think it was just only his reflexes, but he wasn't fully focussed and was depressed because of the bad car.

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^  Yup Hamilton def knows something.  And you know what, I don't think it's just about the major regulation change.  I think at 2026 we'll be seeing a new team principal come in.  Whoever that may be is anybody's guess.  :/  coinlocket$ knows more about the ins and the outs at Ferrari, so he prolly has more of an idea.

As for Mercedes, is Mick Shumacher ready to drive an F1 car?  He could be Hamilton's replacement if he is.  Vettel was pushing for the guy to be his replacement at Aston Martin, I guess he's suggesting the same at Mercedes since he and Toto Wolf talk at a regular basis..?
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Hamilton's move to Ferrari was really surprising, I myself needed to read the headline twice because I thought it was a typing error, but it didn't turn out to be true that a Hamilton who was loyal to Mercedes finally had to give up his contract and join Ferrari. I know how Hamilton feels because he tried to be loyal to Mercedes but the top level at Mercedes tried to get rid of him to rejuvenate the team and coupled with his short contract that might be a strong reason for him to leave Mercedes.

When Hamilton left McLaren for Mercedes, everyone, including the British press, thought that Hamilton had ended his career and made a very bad decision. But they were all wrong. So what happened afterwards? The engine regulations changed and Mercedes improved their position to a very good level. Hamilton broke record after record with Mercedes.

Now, people think Hamilton was wrong to leave Mercedes for Ferrari at the end of his career. Hamilton is infallible. Luckily, a year later, the engine regulations are changing again. Let's see if Hamilton will take the right steps again. I think yes. I don't think Hamilton will make a move without guarantees. My guess is that Ferrari dominance comes after 2026. Hamilton has been known as a car champion throughout his career and I think he will retire as Ferrari's champion driver before he retires. That way his career will be cleared.

Yup, it's impossible for Hamilton to leave a team as big as Mercedes without careful consideration, of course he has thought about this very carefully and has discussed this with his team. There must be something that makes Hamilton quite confident that Ferrari can be his best team in the 2025 season and that might be his new starting point to be able to win the world title again, who knows, right? Let's just see how Hamilton's debut in Ferrari is because I, as a Ferrari fan, am also quite excited about this.
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So I think age does play a role from the age of 40, reaction time decreases, you have to train more to maintain fitness, etc. At least that's what riders who have got older say.

As for Ferrari versus Mercedes, it's still difficult to judge, but I don't think Ferrari will be ahead of Mercedes this season, I think it's more about Hamilton simply wanting to have driven for Ferrari at some point in his career.

It is a really tough work to do, I agree. We can think about Alonso as an example. He is 42 years old now but he has been making a huge effort to stay strong. He is really good at it also considering his general effort in 2023 season.  Smiley  His reflexes are still in great condition. There are many much younger drivers who make more mistakes than him.

Quality is a big factor here also of course. Hamilton is also a legend now. I hope to see the same effort from him too.  Roll Eyes  It is said Ferrari are going to pay him 100+ million dollars a year. This would also be a good motivation for Hamilton.  Grin
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So I think age does play a role from the age of 40, reaction time decreases, you have to train more to maintain fitness, etc. At least that's what riders who have got older say.

As for Ferrari versus Mercedes, it's still difficult to judge, but I don't think Ferrari will be ahead of Mercedes this season, I think it's more about Hamilton simply wanting to have driven for Ferrari at some point in his career.

we will see the big of Hamilton is for 2026 with new cars incoming once again
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So Hamilton in Ferrarin in 12 months.
Will be fun to see, was better to have him this year directly tbh.

He will have 2 shoots with Ferrari I think, 2025 with this generation of cars and 2026 with the new one.



Hamilton's move to Ferrari was really surprising, I myself needed to read the headline twice because I thought it was a typing error, but it didn't turn out to be true that a Hamilton who was loyal to Mercedes finally had to give up his contract and join Ferrari. I know how Hamilton feels because he tried to be loyal to Mercedes but the top level at Mercedes tried to get rid of him to rejuvenate the team and coupled with his short contract that might be a strong reason for him to leave Mercedes.

When Hamilton left McLaren for Mercedes, everyone, including the British press, thought that Hamilton had ended his career and made a very bad decision. But they were all wrong. So what happened afterwards? The engine regulations changed and Mercedes improved their position to a very good level. Hamilton broke record after record with Mercedes.

Now, people think Hamilton was wrong to leave Mercedes for Ferrari at the end of his career. Hamilton is infallible. Luckily, a year later, the engine regulations are changing again. Let's see if Hamilton will take the right steps again. I think yes. I don't think Hamilton will make a move without guarantees. My guess is that Ferrari dominance comes after 2026. Hamilton has been known as a car champion throughout his career and I think he will retire as Ferrari's champion driver before he retires. That way his career will be cleared.
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So Hamilton in Ferrarin in 12 months.
Will be fun to see, was better to have him this year directly tbh.

He will have 2 shoots with Ferrari I think, 2025 with this generation of cars and 2026 with the new one.

Personally, I don't understand this move at all, on both sides. Ferrari is getting an ageing, albeit experienced, driver, presumably for a lot of money, but we've seen it all before at Ferrari and in very few cases has it gone well. And I don't think Hamilton can become world champion again at over 40, and Ferrari has had problems with the car or the strategy for years.

Here's the thing.  F1 teams not only acquire drivers just to drive.  They acquire them also for their experience and by giving their inputs to the team's engineers in how to tweak and set up the car.  Vettel's position in Aston Martin was something like it imo.

And at over 40, Hamilton's reflexes are still sharp.  So with a decent car, he still could win races at any given weekend.  It's not like Raikonnen in that last season he retired when you could see there were a few times he could've caused a crash as it was starting to look like he was losing his reflexes as an F1 driver.
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So I think age does play a role from the age of 40, reaction time decreases, you have to train more to maintain fitness, etc. At least that's what riders who have got older say.

As for Ferrari versus Mercedes, it's still difficult to judge, but I don't think Ferrari will be ahead of Mercedes this season, I think it's more about Hamilton simply wanting to have driven for Ferrari at some point in his career.
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The second day's test shakedown at Sepang was much more interesting because there were several MotoGP riders trying out their newest aero fairings on new motorbikes. This is quite visible in every manufacturer such as Ducati, Yamaha, Aprilia, Honda and KTM, which in general is a little different from last season. Apart from that, a Rookie like Pedro Acosta was also able to adapt very well to the KTM motorbike he rode during the test. I am increasingly curious about the next test for all riders from all manufacturers because the competition this season will probably be much fiercer than last season even though the Argentina series has been canceled by Dorna and for the time being there is no replacement.
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Ferrari is currently developing better than Mercedes in the last season too (2023) Ferrari is better than Mercedes. so moving to Ferrari hopes to compete for the championship again with Max Vestapen.

Hamilton will be also an ambassador of Ferrari.

Hard to turn that down.
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So Hamilton in Ferrarin in 12 months.
Will be fun to see, was better to have him this year directly tbh.

He will have 2 shoots with Ferrari I think, 2025 with this generation of cars and 2026 with the new one.

Personally, I don't understand this move at all, on both sides. Ferrari is getting an ageing, albeit experienced, driver, presumably for a lot of money, but we've seen it all before at Ferrari and in very few cases has it gone well. And I don't think Hamilton can become world champion again at over 40, and Ferrari has had problems with the car or the strategy for years.

Ferrari is currently developing better than Mercedes in the last season too (2023) Ferrari is better than Mercedes. so moving to Ferrari hopes to compete for the championship again with Max Vestapen.
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Personally, I don't understand this move at all, on both sides. Ferrari is getting an ageing, albeit experienced, driver, presumably for a lot of money, but we've seen it all before at Ferrari and in very few cases has it gone well. And I don't think Hamilton can become world champion again at over 40, and Ferrari has had problems with the car or the strategy for years.

Age in F1 or motorsport is not really a problem.

Look at Alonso or Sainz Senior winning the Dakar at the age of 60.

Sure is not  a determining factor but of course in F1 age has a big impact and plays a big role in performance.The fact that Alonso does not win any battle against really talented drivers (also because of not having the best car) shows that age makes a huge differences when it comes to reflexes.Also Schumacher when he got old and was driving Mercedes at the age of 41 he did not win anything.Now we see Verstappen having the best car but also being one of the young drivers on the grid.
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Personally, I don't understand this move at all, on both sides. Ferrari is getting an ageing, albeit experienced, driver, presumably for a lot of money, but we've seen it all before at Ferrari and in very few cases has it gone well. And I don't think Hamilton can become world champion again at over 40, and Ferrari has had problems with the car or the strategy for years.

Age in F1 or motorsport is not really a problem.

Look at Alonso or Sainz Senior winning the Dakar at the age of 60.
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So Hamilton in Ferrarin in 12 months.
Will be fun to see, was better to have him this year directly tbh.

He will have 2 shoots with Ferrari I think, 2025 with this generation of cars and 2026 with the new one.



This is really sensational news mate.  Cheesy  When I first saw the news on X I thought that it must be another speculation or so. But in a short time we got an official confirmation by Mercedes F1 team directly. I can't even imagine how disappointed Sainz is after learning about this deal. Because he was trying to extend his contract just as Leclerc did newly.

However Hamilton will probably need to be patient for at least one year after joining Ferrari.  Sad  This depends on how strong car Ferrari have for 2025 season though. But probably it would be another season under domination of Red Bull.
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So Hamilton in Ferrarin in 12 months.
Will be fun to see, was better to have him this year directly tbh.

He will have 2 shoots with Ferrari I think, 2025 with this generation of cars and 2026 with the new one.

Personally, I don't understand this move at all, on both sides. Ferrari is getting an ageing, albeit experienced, driver, presumably for a lot of money, but we've seen it all before at Ferrari and in very few cases has it gone well. And I don't think Hamilton can become world champion again at over 40, and Ferrari has had problems with the car or the strategy for years.
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So Hamilton in Ferrarin in 12 months.
Will be fun to see, was better to have him this year directly tbh.

He will have 2 shoots with Ferrari I think, 2025 with this generation of cars and 2026 with the new one.



Hamilton's move to Ferrari was really surprising, I myself needed to read the headline twice because I thought it was a typing error, but it didn't turn out to be true that a Hamilton who was loyal to Mercedes finally had to give up his contract and join Ferrari. I know how Hamilton feels because he tried to be loyal to Mercedes but the top level at Mercedes tried to get rid of him to rejuvenate the team and coupled with his short contract that might be a strong reason for him to leave Mercedes.
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Superb transfer from Ferrari, it could be from this year though. I wonder how he will perform with Mercedes this year when it's obvious he'll switch teams next season. Ferrari has built a great team, but their cars need to keep up with it. Leclerc will no longer be the first driver, how he will look at it is a question mark. If Ferrari can improve the car, they can dominate Formula 1 again like in the old days, but if the car doesn't improve enough, they can't win a championship even if they have the best drivers.
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I read somewhere that Rossi rides a Yamaha gift him a superbike that he used in this practice. Not really surprising considering their relationship. I'm surprised he participated though. Isn't he a GT racer now? Sadly can't watch him race anymore since no local channel streams it in my area.

Valentino Rossi has indeed become a GT racer and that is not only now, but it has started to take place and happened after he retired from MotoGP. And regarding the issue of participating in practice at Portimao Portugal, I think this is a very normal thing because Valentino Rossi in previous seasons, when he had no activities with GT racing, also often practiced there. So there's no need to be surprised by that, because apart from being a GT racer, he also still has his own team in MotoGP which is managed by Ucio even though Valentino Rossi is still the brand ambassador for the Yamaha manufacturer.

By the way, if you can't watch the MotoGP race via your local TV channel, I don't think that's a problem because everyone can still watch it via overseas TV broadcasts or via online streaming. And today I also saw the Shakedown test at Sepang which was attended by several MotoGP riders and also test riders from all MotoGP manufacturers.
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