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Now I missed putting 2 consecutive winning bets here totaling over 16/1 against Arsenal, so I need to remember to be disciplined heh.

But I'm not forgetting the cup tie in France, Toulouse are a curious outfit if you want, beating Loverpool and LASK, even drawing with a really good USG team despite playing with 10 men... it suggests they prefer doing their best in cup ties?

May 2024 prove to be good for this thread!

100 units at Sportsbest on Toulose to WIN vs PSG @12.0. Other odds: 11.50. Units advantage: 50
Bet ID: 659578744411880001ed6914

Running advantage after 53 bets: +5737 (+50)
All-time cumulative: +95,597
Running units after 52 bets (3W|47L): -3012 ()
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Sheffield are going to lose, but if they play 30 times, could they win at least once? I think so!

No time to place bet ID here but I'll edit this post with full numbers but 100 units on Blades to win @30/1++ odds it is on!

Edit: Heh, a loss. But for one moment when it was 0-0, Blades with more shots on target...

Sheffield Utd to WIN @32.08. Other odds: 28.
Units advantage: 408
Bet ID: 6589ff6044118800012ca59a

Running advantage after 52 bets: +5687 (+408)
All-time cumulative: +95,547
Running units after 52 bets (3W|47L): -3012 (-200)
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It's post-Christmas and we arrive at a weird intersection of reality where Everton are not even 6/1 to beat City -- ordinarily I say poor value but the Toffees are actually playing decent football, with "us against the world" mentality spurring them thanks to the 10-point deduction. But to mix things up, I'm tagging on Fiorentina to get decent odds.

100 units at Sportsbet on Everton and Fiorentina to win @13.93. Other odds: 12.80
Units advantage: 113
Bet ID: 658c317b44118800014d9243

Running advantage after 51 bets: +5279 (+113)
All-time cumulative: +95,139
Running units after 50 bets (3W|47L): -2812 (-100)
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I could be wrong, but it seems to me that in previous seasons you had a much larger number of bets, so those results can be considered more relevant than the current ones (by the way, I also remember there were long periods of 20+ games without a single victory). When playing with large odds, you need to check many outcomes to know the strength of the strategy, so stop being lazy and register more bets here  Wink Cheesy

Correct. Since last season I've been having pretty difficult personal situations that no longer allow me time to study games, compare books, and do a bit of research. Betting frequency and volume down, and quality of games put here also not as good as I'd prefer. I still think it's a great strategy -- big value that eventually pays off and a season sample of <100 games, as this and last one will be, are not enough to demonstrate the strategy.

But there is always the opportunity to move into such murky areas as live betting, what do you think? If I remember correctly, you were not into this type of betting (at least on an ongoing basis). I follow sporting events mainly in text form, so the quotes are always in sight, and in my opinion everything there is far from accurate on the part of the bookmakers (maybe because they mainly pay attention to the cash flow? = they simply balance between the bets that the crowd makes) .

Absolutely! If I didn't have the life I did (say, if I were single and with few obligations) I'd actually be live-betting plenty. Odds can be extremely skewed a different periods. Liverpool going down a goal? Value. 0-0 at HT? Odds increase for ALL outcomes. Like you say, books use automation and risk management, but we're watching the flow and ebb of games.
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^ Yeah, complete alignment in our estimation -- I really like the terms you use, bookmaker greed. Perhaps inaccurate technically but from a different perspective of economics, rational. City looked good from the reports but I still think the unknown factors of teams you've never played, particularly with a team still "immature" in ex-Europe competition, it was a great bet to take regardless of the outcome.

I'll take a break until the weekend but yes, this season's picks will likely see me in the red. I want to offer an excuse that I didn't include some great winners I did have, including specials, etc. But this thread must retain its integrity and count only bets I actually suggested here.

All good things must come to an end, and all strategies fail, but I'm happy to continue showing the true purpose: value. Thank you for following Wink

I could be wrong, but it seems to me that in previous seasons you had a much larger number of bets, so those results can be considered more relevant than the current ones (by the way, I also remember there were long periods of 20+ games without a single victory). When playing with large odds, you need to check many outcomes to know the strength of the strategy, so stop being lazy and register more bets here  Wink Cheesy

As for strategies “in general”, then probably yes, most likely they all die without exception - either the market becomes more efficient (everyone switches to these strategies and they lose their meaning simply for economic reasons) or bookmakers adapt to them. As far as I know, in different periods the value shifted from bets with low odds to bets with high odds and vice versa. I’m afraid that now we live in the conditions of neural networks, big data that probably covers everything that can be covered in information terms and the accuracy of bookmakers is steadily increasing and it is either impossible or very difficult to find value.

But there is always the opportunity to move into such murky areas as live betting, what do you think? If I remember correctly, you were not into this type of betting (at least on an ongoing basis). I follow sporting events mainly in text form, so the quotes are always in sight, and in my opinion everything there is far from accurate on the part of the bookmakers (maybe because they mainly pay attention to the cash flow? = they simply balance between the bets that the crowd makes) .
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A quick one in here to sign off pre-Christmas. Actually had a lot more bets for some reason, but none really worthy of this thread (Hammers favs against United??).

Lecce aren't exactly who I'd back in a game against Lautoro's fearsome boots but their current league position (and failure to lose against Milan a few games back) suggests 10/1 is tentative value.

100 units at Sportsbet on Lecce to WIN vs Inter @13.65. Other odds: 12.50. Units advantage: 115
Bet ID: 6586afeb441188000144ef7d

Running advantage after 50 bets: +5166 (+115)
All-time cumulative: +95,026
Running units after 49 bets (3W|46L): -2712 (-100)
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^ Yeah, complete alignment in our estimation -- I really like the terms you use, bookmaker greed. Perhaps inaccurate technically but from a different perspective of economics, rational. City looked good from the reports but I still think the unknown factors of teams you've never played, particularly with a team still "immature" in ex-Europe competition, it was a great bet to take regardless of the outcome.

I'll take a break until the weekend but yes, this season's picks will likely see me in the red. I want to offer an excuse that I didn't include some great winners I did have, including specials, etc. But this thread must retain its integrity and count only bets I actually suggested here.

All good things must come to an end, and all strategies fail, but I'm happy to continue showing the true purpose: value. Thank you for following Wink
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Palace took points, but we don't do well at all, do we, with recent picks and luck. Club World Cup also feels like a poor place to dig but I have a thing for unknowns, and Urawa are, if anything, that. 20/1, those kind of numbers have to be irresponsible not to take!

100 units at Sportsbet on Urawa Red Diamonds to WIN vs City @21.35. Other odds: 19.5. Units advantage: 185

Running advantage after 49 bets: +5051 (+185)
All-time cumulative: +94,911
Running units after 48 bets (3W|45L): -2612 (-100)

Absolutely my thoughts, even before I got acquainted with the odds. I love multi bets with big odds but this single bet looks really good on its own. City, given their ongoing failures, may not particularly want to play an extra game in the final - even if formally it is a title and a trophy, we all know that this is a friendly competition that interests little less than anyone  Grin

I read a little about the underdog - the most expensive Urava football player is the central defender from Denmark Scholz (2 million euros), while the total cost of the squad is about twenty million, 2x10 = 20, if Scholz is the most expensive then the entire squad is counted and not just the players main (11 people) squad  Grin

If we think about it from this point of view, the odds of 20 look like the bookmakers’ greed and Urawa’s overestimation. But still, it seems to me that there is value in your pick, in the end, even if it turns out to be a successful pick, you will still be in the minus, so we can assume that before this the randomness “didn’t give you enough” and everything is about to change.
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Palace took points, but we don't do well at all, do we, with recent picks and luck. Club World Cup also feels like a poor place to dig but I have a thing for unknowns, and Urawa are, if anything, that. 20/1, those kind of numbers have to be irresponsible not to take!

100 units at Sportsbet on Urawa Red Diamonds to WIN vs City @21.35. Other odds: 19.5. Units advantage: 185

Running advantage after 49 bets: +5051 (+185)
All-time cumulative: +94,911
Running units after 48 bets (3W|45L): -2612 (-100)
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What a rout this turned out to be heh heh. So I go back to my boring old ways. Etihad is a fortress and old foe Zaha no longer leads the line but I'm still happy to bet against City with odds like this, before the return of KdB in January.

Easy win coming hopefully?

100 units at Sportsbet on Palace to WIN vs City @16.40. Other odds: 14.80. Units advantage: 160
Bet ID: 657a105d786d660001421750

Running advantage after 48 bets: +4866 (+160)
All-time cumulative: +94,726
Running units after 47 bets (3W|44L): -2512 (-100)
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So much for plucky New Zealanders upstaging stars seeing out their twilight years! Champions League offered a starring Belgian side but I didn't take it, shame. Instead, we return to Swiss side Servette who face tricky home opponents Slavia Praha. It's a difficult ask, but I got incredible odds when it touched 10/1, books quickly returned to a more reasonable 65/10 so I think this is very much a value bet.

100 units at Sportsbet on Servette to WIN vs Prague @10.02. Other odds: 6.60. Units advantage: 342
Bet ID: 6570d9c64149c60001de54d3

Running advantage after 47 bets: +4706 (+342)
All-time cumulative: +94,566
Running units after 46 bets (3W|43L): -2412 (-100)
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It's a big night of Champions League football but I'm going to turn my sights on the Club World Cup instead. The mighty Al-Ittihad, who boast Benzema and Fabinho meet Kiwi minnows Auckland City -- but form is good for the antipodeans, while I'm counting on poor form and overconfidence from the Jeddah giants. It's silly money, on a frivolous game, I'm feeling good.

100 units at Sportsbet on Auckland to WIN vs Al-Ittihad @26.30. Other odds: 25. Units advantage: 130
Bet ID: 65784cff786d660001325ccf

Running advantage after 46 bets: +4364 (+130)
All-time cumulative: +94,224
Running units after 45 bets (3W|42L): -2312 (-100)
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Didn't work out for Nantes -- they equalised in the second half but didn't find a breakthrough and lost in the end. No sugar for me, unfortunately. I'm reluctant to call today's bet a value offering. Luton should be easily 20/1 but City's form has been depressing enough to nudge bookies to ratchet the odds down, but you know what they say about how it pours when it rains... anyway at HT City's huffing and puffing didn't work out. Walker's off, Grealish too, Alvarez missing. Luton actually had half-decent chances. 45 minutes left, could the Citizens fall?

Edit: wow Luton score as I post this haha...

100 units at Sportsbet on Luton City to WIN vs City @14.75. Other odds: 13.8. Units advantage: 95
Bet ID: 6575ba74786d66000172ab97

Running advantage after 45 bets: +4234 (+95)
All-time cumulative: +94,094
Running units after 44 bets (3W|41L): -2212 (-100)
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^ Indeed, Villa were rightly tipped to have a chance but the value (what you refer to as coefficient) indeed put me off. Definitely came close so many times but that's how it goes. I feel like this could finally be the season I post a loss in the end but for now, I keep putting bets where I feel coefficients are great.

With that, Nantes presents an exciting opportunity, where they have beaten PSG once each of the past two seasons. A much weaker team now but with PSG frailty, you never know.

100 units at Sportsbet on Nantes to WIN vs PSG @13.10. Other odds: 11.80. Units advantage: 130
Bet ID: 65737a41786d660001a9a7f3

Running advantage after 44 bets: +4139 (+130)
All-time cumulative: +93,999
Running units after 43 bets (3W|40L): -2112 (-100)
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So near, and yet so far. If you told me I would lose bets on City losing but thhey'd still drop points, I'd be asking when I could do it again. Arsenal have surprised me this season, really, and I actually haven't watched them play much but as hot as they are, I doubt last season you could get these kinds of odds away, even against Luton.

Call me naive but one simply cannot allow such odds to pass you by:

100 units on Luton Town to WIN vs Arsenal @18.60. Other odds: 17.30. Units advantage: 130

Running advantage after 43 bets: +4009 (+130)
All-time cumulative: +93,869
Running units after 42 bets (3W|39L): -2012 (-100)

It's a pity that the bet on City's defeat against Aston Villa is currently quoted at odds of 4.70. This outcome looks quite logical and probable (three draws in a row by City indicate some problems), but the coefficient is very small.
As for the previous bets, you were close almost everywhere, I wonder when the fluctuation will occur in your favor.
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So near, and yet so far. If you told me I would lose bets on City losing but thhey'd still drop points, I'd be asking when I could do it again. Arsenal have surprised me this season, really, and I actually haven't watched them play much but as hot as they are, I doubt last season you could get these kinds of odds away, even against Luton.

Call me naive but one simply cannot allow such odds to pass you by:

100 units on Luton Town to WIN vs Arsenal @18.60. Other odds: 17.30. Units advantage: 130

Running advantage after 43 bets: +4009 (+130)
All-time cumulative: +93,869
Running units after 42 bets (3W|39L): -2012 (-100)
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Newcastle were denied a win unlawfully, as you might have known by now, with both referee and VAR stood down after gifting PSG the penalty that let them equalise. Leipzig also ended the first half 2 goals to nil, but Citeh scared 3 in the second half. There was a moment when Fabio on loan from Liverpool almost won the game at 2-2 but his ass got us offside. Oh well.

Spurs are sadly declining after some way-too-early hype, but I fancy Son getting his team all three points at Etihad.

100 units at Sportsbet on Spurs to WIN vs Man City @11.36. Other odds: 10.00. Units advantage: 136
656c44624149c60001954c9b

Running advantage after 42 bets: +3879 (+136)
All-time cumulative: +93,739
Running units after 41 bets (3W|38L): -1912 (-200)
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^ Yes, I admit to that glaring bias. We haven't won there against Pep with better teams but I still thought it was worth the risk. I'm definitely fast-tracking myself to a first season ending in negative, but at least next season should be with less "pressure". I remind myself the purpose of this thread isn't so much to win but to bag value.

More discipline needed, in any case, to record bets here! In that spirit, 100 units at Sportsbet on each outcome:

Newcastle to WIN vs PSG parlayed with Liverpool to WIN vs LASK in 2 days @6.01. Other odds: 5.55. Bet Id: 656601fc4149c6000122cc26
Leipzig to WIN vs City @9.58. Other odds: 8.90. Bet ID: 6561d2a84149c6000113f2bc

Units advantage: 46+68 = 114

Running advantage after 41 bets: +3743 (+114)
All-time cumulative: +93,603
Running units after 39 bets (3W|36L): -1712 (-500)
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Ah, well, French football, what to say. Minamino actually scored early in the tie to keep things exciting but everything fell apart after the break, really.

So it's not often we do this but each season we do take on some riskier bets and I have to say, while Liverpool haven't won at the Emirates in 8 years, Nunez, Diaz, Jota and Salah have all been peak performers during international -- I hope they bring it.

500 units at Sportsbet on Liverpool to WIN at City @4.74. Other odds (Betcoin has the best if you don't have a priceboost): 4.50. Units advantage: 24x5 = 120
Bet ID: 655dc4f74149c6000179ef9d

Running advantage after 39 bets: +3629 (+120)
All-time cumulative: +93,489
Running units after 38 bets (3W|35L): -1212 (-100)

I can't say it was close, but the final score is slippery and Liverpool could have won with some luck. Another question is whether the coefficient was worth it? I think 4.74 was too little in this situation (Liverpool away after international games, a short break to be in Manchester). It seems to me that you made this bet as a Liverpool fan, first of all  Wink
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Ah, well, French football, what to say. Minamino actually scored early in the tie to keep things exciting but everything fell apart after the break, really.

So it's not often we do this but each season we do take on some riskier bets and I have to say, while Liverpool haven't won at the Emirates in 8 years, Nunez, Diaz, Jota and Salah have all been peak performers during international -- I hope they bring it.

500 units at Sportsbet on Liverpool to WIN at City @4.74. Other odds (Betcoin has the best if you don't have a priceboost): 4.50. Units advantage: 24x5 = 120
Bet ID: 655dc4f74149c6000179ef9d

Running advantage after 39 bets: +3629 (+120)
All-time cumulative: +93,489
Running units after 38 bets (3W|35L): -1212 (-100)
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