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Quote from: Haunebu on December 04, 2020, 03:17:19 AM

What the heck are you talking about? How do you expect the BCCI to organize tournaments effectively when the world is struggling thanks to the pandemic? Very silly statement to be honest. The players had plenty of time to focus on their fitness thanks to Corona.

If they could organize an 8-team IPL tournament in UAE (which has one of the highest infection rates for COVID 19 in the world), then what prevented from organizing a few domestic matches in India? Almost every other cricket playing nation has restarted the domestic tournaments and India is probably the only one which hasn't done that yet. Obviously domestic cricket is a very low priority in India.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 03, 2020, 10:34:32 PM

BTW, rather than blaming the players, the finger should be pointed at the BCCI. Before the IPL, they failed to organize any cricket tournament (domestic/international) for more than 6 months. The players became rusty, and it was not surprising.

What the heck are you talking about? How do you expect the BCCI to organize tournaments effectively when the world is struggling thanks to the pandemic? Very silly statement to be honest. The players had plenty of time to focus on their fitness thanks to Corona.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 03, 2020, 11:37:58 PM

On the other hand, the Pakistan team is touring New Zealand currently, and several positive cases came up in their camp. The New Zealand government even warned the Pakistanis that they would be deported if the quarantine norms are not strictly followed.

I didn't know this. Damn. They should have done a better job though I am not completely sure who should be blamed here. I hope they figure out a solution soon.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 03, 2020, 01:47:12 PM

Bio-bubble in UAE was 100% effective thankfully and we got to enjoy a ton of entertaining matches in the midst of this pandemic.

It was never easy to manage so many players and supporting staff. But to their credit, the BCCI managed it extremely well. Not a single player tested positive for COVID 19. On the other hand, the Pakistan team is touring New Zealand currently, and several positive cases came up in their camp. The New Zealand government even warned the Pakistanis that they would be deported if the quarantine norms are not strictly followed.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 03, 2020, 10:34:32 PM

Quote from: Haunebu on December 03, 2020, 01:47:12 PM

JSRAW likes to tease Rohit as the Vada Pav man which is why he isn't seriously criticizing Rohit or anything. However, it would be beneficial for Rohit to drop a few pounds since other popular players in the team like Kohli, Pandya etc are way thinner in comparison.

As long as Rohit is performing, no one is going to complain about his weight gain. BTW, you can't compare Virat with other players because he is such a fitness freak. And Hardik is much younger than Rohit and he doesn't have to worry much about gaining weight (also being a pace bowler helps). BTW, rather than blaming the players, the finger should be pointed at the BCCI. Before the IPL, they failed to organize any cricket tournament (domestic/international) for more than 6 months. The players became rusty, and it was not surprising.

As long as Rohit is performing, no one is criticizing him. There is nothing wrong in giving him the name of pada pav as he looks like one frankly Grin

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There is also no need to blame BCCI because BCCI was not responsible for the pandemic situation in India. The players are still fit and some of them are in form, which is good for the upcoming T20.

Every player is responsible for his own fitness if they want to be part of the national team. No one is forcing them to be a fitness freak it is their own choice. Being a fitness freak and not able to perform can still make you sit on the bench or out of the team.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 03, 2020, 01:47:12 PM

JSRAW likes to tease Rohit as the Vada Pav man which is why he isn't seriously criticizing Rohit or anything. However, it would be beneficial for Rohit to drop a few pounds since other popular players in the team like Kohli, Pandya etc are way thinner in comparison.

As long as Rohit is performing, no one is going to complain about his weight gain. BTW, you can't compare Virat with other players because he is such a fitness freak. And Hardik is much younger than Rohit and he doesn't have to worry much about gaining weight (also being a pace bowler helps). BTW, rather than blaming the players, the finger should be pointed at the BCCI. Before the IPL, they failed to organize any cricket tournament (domestic/international) for more than 6 months. The players became rusty, and it was not surprising.

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Quote from: mersal on December 03, 2020, 07:58:05 AM

Reducing weight for an athlete is not going to be a tough task and Rohit done well in IPL as well so we can see him back in action real soon, injuries are more concerned compared to weight gains by players so BCCI wants to keep the prime players as 100% fit for the important tournament and series.

JSRAW likes to tease Rohit as the Vada Pav man which is why he isn't seriously criticizing Rohit or anything. However, it would be beneficial for Rohit to drop a few pounds since other popular players in the team like Kohli, Pandya etc are way thinner in comparison.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 03, 2020, 08:09:11 AM

Injuries were expected after such a tight IPL schedule. Most of the players were playing more than a dozen matches each. Although we can claim that T20 is a less demanding format, playing so many matches in a row might have exhausted most of them. And these players didn't had any match practice for almost 6 months and they were suddenly thrown in to the glitz of IPL.

True. Biggest point you forgot to mention is the risk of getting infected by Corona which is way more serious than most physical injuries. However, very few got affected luckily and recovered quickly too.

Bio-bubble in UAE was 100% effective thankfully and we got to enjoy a ton of entertaining matches in the midst of this pandemic.

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Quote from: mersal on December 03, 2020, 07:58:05 AM

Reducing weight for an athlete is not going to be a tough task and Rohit done well in IPL as well so we can see him back in action real soon, injuries are more concerned compared to weight gains by players so BCCI wants to keep the prime players as 100% fit for the important tournament and series.

Injuries were expected after such a tight IPL schedule. Most of the players were playing more than a dozen matches each. Although we can claim that T20 is a less demanding format, playing so many matches in a row might have exhausted most of them. And these players didn't had any match practice for almost 6 months and they were suddenly thrown in to the glitz of IPL.

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On flat pitches both batsmen are dangerous and Rohit is miles ahead of everyone when batting on flat pitch as he has a habit of gets going and 3 double 100s confirms that so its obvious that India missed him badly at the top order. I really hope that he comes back and he should take his fitness more seriously and eat less vada pav. Tongue

That is applicable for the other players as well. Rohit is not the only player who gained lots of weight during the pandemic period. Even youngsters such as Shreyas Iyer and Rishabh Pant seems to have gained at least 5-10 kg during this period. Rohit is in his 30s and therefore his "gains" are more visible. On the other hand, look at the Australian players. All of them look 100% fit.

The difference may be due to the fact that CA is conducting domestic cricket this year, while the BCCI doesn't have a plan for the same. Especially for those Indian players who are not a part of the IPL, staying fit is quite challenging due to the lack of opportunities in domestic cricket.

Reducing weight for an athlete is not going to be a tough task and Rohit done well in IPL as well so we can see him back in action real soon, injuries are more concerned compared to weight gains by players so BCCI wants to keep the prime players as 100% fit for the important tournament and series.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 02, 2020, 05:08:04 PM

On flat pitches both batsmen are dangerous and Rohit is miles ahead of everyone when batting on flat pitch as he has a habit of gets going and 3 double 100s confirms that so its obvious that India missed him badly at the top order. I really hope that he comes back and he should take his fitness more seriously and eat less vada pav. Tongue

That is applicable for the other players as well. Rohit is not the only player who gained lots of weight during the pandemic period. Even youngsters such as Shreyas Iyer and Rishabh Pant seems to have gained at least 5-10 kg during this period. Rohit is in his 30s and therefore his "gains" are more visible. On the other hand, look at the Australian players. All of them look 100% fit.

The difference may be due to the fact that CA is conducting domestic cricket this year, while the BCCI doesn't have a plan for the same. Especially for those Indian players who are not a part of the IPL, staying fit is quite challenging due to the lack of opportunities in domestic cricket.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 02, 2020, 01:32:32 PM

Australia badly missed Warner while India badly missed Rohit. Great to see Natarajan and Shardul performing well.

On flat pitches both batsmen are dangerous and Rohit is miles ahead of everyone when batting on flat pitch as he has a habit of gets going and 3 double 100s confirms that so its obvious that India missed him badly at the top order. I really hope that he comes back and he should take his fitness more seriously and eat less vada pav. Tongue

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India won the match by 13 runs. The credit should go to Pandya and Jadeja. They scored a lot of runs during the final overs, to get India to 300 plus. When the 5th wicket fell, no one would have imagined that India would end up with a total of more than 250-260. Also, credit goes to Natarajan, for picking up two important wickets in his debut for the national team.

India could not have collected so much without the contribution of Pandya and Jadeja. After 30 overs, India lost 5 wickets, then the team went under pressure. They collected 302 runs in Jadeja and Pandya's formidable batting. The bowlers also did very well. India could not have won without their good performance.

If you analysis the match, Australia played bad game in the last 5 overs of the indian innings and also in the last five overs of their innings. They gave away too many runs in the last 5 overs to Indians. Also when they could have easily chased the target, they lost too many wickets in the last 5 overs. It was game of nerves and India team stood out in this match.

We see this happen many times after a team has already won the series. Australia was not at their best in this match but credit goes to India as they were able to keep the momentum through out the match where Australia lost wickets and bowl poorly under pressure.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 02, 2020, 06:31:53 AM

India won the match by 13 runs. The credit should go to Pandya and Jadeja. They scored a lot of runs during the final overs, to get India to 300 plus. When the 5th wicket fell, no one would have imagined that India would end up with a total of more than 250-260. Also, credit goes to Natarajan, for picking up two important wickets in his debut for the national team.

India could not have collected so much without the contribution of Pandya and Jadeja. After 30 overs, India lost 5 wickets, then the team went under pressure. They collected 302 runs in Jadeja and Pandya's formidable batting. The bowlers also did very well. India could not have won without their good performance.

If you analysis the match, Australia played bad game in the last 5 overs of the indian innings and also in the last five overs of their innings. They gave away too many runs in the last 5 overs to Indians. Also when they could have easily chased the target, they lost too many wickets in the last 5 overs. It was game of nerves and India team stood out in this match.

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Did not expect India to win the last one by a decent margin. Very unexpected. They could have probably won by an even bigger margin if Finch wasn't dropped early behind the stumps.

It seems like the Indian middle order issue has been sorted out completely thanks to Pandya, Jadeja etc which is a good thing though the top order seems to be the issue now.

Australia badly missed Warner while India badly missed Rohit. Great to see Natarajan and Shardul performing well.

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Quote from: Iranus on December 02, 2020, 12:27:14 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 02, 2020, 06:31:53 AM

India won the match by 13 runs. The credit should go to Pandya and Jadeja. They scored a lot of runs during the final overs, to get India to 300 plus. When the 5th wicket fell, no one would have imagined that India would end up with a total of more than 250-260. Also, credit goes to Natarajan, for picking up two important wickets in his debut for the national team.

India could not have collected so much without the contribution of Pandya and Jadeja. After 30 overs, India lost 5 wickets, then the team went under pressure. They collected 302 runs in Jadeja and Pandya's formidable batting. The bowlers also did very well. India could not have won without their good performance.

There are two theories surrounding this match.

Theory-1:
The bowlers bowl performed in the same manner as they did in the previous two matches. Well, it is just that the Australian batsmen did not bat to their full potential bacause they knew that the series have been won.

Theory-2:
India should have batted first in the previous matches then, they would have won both of them and would have eventually won the series. Unfortunately our captain Kohli was not in a mood of winning the toss.

I do believe in the first theory as I think the bowlers did not perform as anticipated, our expectation from bhumra and shami were too high if we consider their past performance.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 02, 2020, 06:31:53 AM

India won the match by 13 runs. The credit should go to Pandya and Jadeja. They scored a lot of runs during the final overs, to get India to 300 plus. When the 5th wicket fell, no one would have imagined that India would end up with a total of more than 250-260. Also, credit goes to Natarajan, for picking up two important wickets in his debut for the national team.

India could not have collected so much without the contribution of Pandya and Jadeja. After 30 overs, India lost 5 wickets, then the team went under pressure. They collected 302 runs in Jadeja and Pandya's formidable batting. The bowlers also did very well. India could not have won without their good performance.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 02, 2020, 06:31:53 AM

India won the match by 13 runs. The credit should go to Pandya and Jadeja. They scored a lot of runs during the final overs, to get India to 300 plus. When the 5th wicket fell, no one would have imagined that India would end up with a total of more than 250-260. Also, credit goes to Natarajan, for picking up two important wickets in his debut for the national team.

This win was much needed for the Indians to keep up their momentum for the rest of this series. They won a good match by a small margin and this will lift their morals. The ODI series , however, belongs to Australia as they won it by 2-1.

This was indeed much needed win else whitewash would have resulted in demotivation. But inspite of narrow win this will boost them as in the end they registered their first win. India did miss Rohit Sharma because once he gets started then he is able to convert a big score and India would have got a good opening partnership. Bumrah particularly was not effective in first two matches and went for too many runs but today's spell was much better with better length bowling.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 02, 2020, 06:31:53 AM

India won the match by 13 runs. The credit should go to Pandya and Jadeja. They scored a lot of runs during the final overs, to get India to 300 plus. When the 5th wicket fell, no one would have imagined that India would end up with a total of more than 250-260. Also, credit goes to Natarajan, for picking up two important wickets in his debut for the national team.

very very well played by team India, Pandya and Jadeja partnership was more crucial of the 3rd ODI and those should be rewarded. such a positive bounce back. I hope this result boost the entire team for upcoming T20I and test series.

Congrats team Australia for winning the ODI series by 2-1

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 02, 2020, 06:31:53 AM

India won the match by 13 runs. The credit should go to Pandya and Jadeja. They scored a lot of runs during the final overs, to get India to 300 plus. When the 5th wicket fell, no one would have imagined that India would end up with a total of more than 250-260. Also, credit goes to Natarajan, for picking up two important wickets in his debut for the national team.

This win was much needed for the Indians to keep up their momentum for the rest of this series. They won a good match by a small margin and this will lift their morals. The ODI series , however, belongs to Australia as they won it by 2-1.

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AUS just need run a ball to win this match but they only have 3 wickets in their hand whicb may give some chances to India.

Just need 34 runs from 31 balls.

Even i was thinking it was an easy game but India bowled really well pulled the game back and i had to cash out at a loss Roll Eyes

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Australia meed 21 runs from 11 balls and they lost 9 wickets and now it is an impossible task to chase this score, the new bowlers bowled well for India and Australia played some stupid shots when they were in a good position to win the match.

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India won the match. Undecided

Finally a win for team India after a long time but the series is on the hand of Aussies already, next India need to concentrate on T20 series which they are actually better doing it especially most players came in the prime for after the end of IPL. Natrajan played really well and took important wickets while Pandya is playing at his best even when he is not completely fit.

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India won the match by 13 runs. The credit should go to Pandya and Jadeja. They scored a lot of runs during the final overs, to get India to 300 plus. When the 5th wicket fell, no one would have imagined that India would end up with a total of more than 250-260. Also, credit goes to Natarajan, for picking up two important wickets in his debut for the national team.

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