Topic: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) - page 116. (Read 530660 times)
there really is not much you can say at this point, i added a couple trolls to my ignore list i suggest after you get fed up trying to reason with then everybody else should do the same
As I promised two weeks ago, here is an estimate for completion of Zerocoin-in-Anoncoin that I feel has a very high chance of being met (a "hard deadline").
By October 15, I'll have Zerocoin integration in "alpha" state, and on a testnet for anybody to try.
By November 1, I'll have Zerocoin in mainnet, which means you can use the ANC you have now to mint and spend zerocoins. It will still be in "beta", meaning you should pay attention to our website, IRC, and our bitcointalk.org thread for security updates to the wallet and anoncoind; this is especially important if you are a miner or running a relay node.
I realized that I have made deadlines in the past that were not met. I put a lot of thought into the above deadlines and I know that they can be met. Just as a reminder, I'm working full-time on Zerocoin until at least October 1, and possibly after depending on funding.
Other upcoming dates:
September 15: the RSA UFO project ends, participants are rewarded, and the server source is released to our Github.
September 17: the first Zerocoin commits get pushed to our Github (Anoncoin/anoncoin, "zc" branch). As I said before, the public Github will lag 2 weeks behind active development in our private repository; this is to make things more difficult for copycat coins.
Previous updates:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8750399
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8599297
By October 15, I'll have Zerocoin integration in "alpha" state, and on a testnet for anybody to try.
By November 1, I'll have Zerocoin in mainnet, which means you can use the ANC you have now to mint and spend zerocoins. It will still be in "beta", meaning you should pay attention to our website, IRC, and our bitcointalk.org thread for security updates to the wallet and anoncoind; this is especially important if you are a miner or running a relay node.
I realized that I have made deadlines in the past that were not met. I put a lot of thought into the above deadlines and I know that they can be met. Just as a reminder, I'm working full-time on Zerocoin until at least October 1, and possibly after depending on funding.
Other upcoming dates:
September 15: the RSA UFO project ends, participants are rewarded, and the server source is released to our Github.
September 17: the first Zerocoin commits get pushed to our Github (Anoncoin/anoncoin, "zc" branch). As I said before, the public Github will lag 2 weeks behind active development in our private repository; this is to make things more difficult for copycat coins.
Previous updates:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8750399
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8599297
Gnosis how is development coming along? I've looked at the code but it's hard for me to judge - do you think you are on track to meet the Oct 15th goal?
I'm still on track.
Hello everyone, here is an infographics about anonymity in the blockchain that I intend to finish and publish on reddit on october 6, maybe sooner.
The text is coming from the anoncoin wiki, but the title and inter-titles are from me. There might be typos and bad grammer in them.
There will be a second part about IP addresses, and I2P.
Feel free to criticize, it's almost finished but still a draft. I'll work again on some of the visuals maybe, especially the "mixing coins" part wich I'm not too sure of, and maybe the colors are too flashy... I'll see that in the next days.
Leave your comments so that I can make changes if needed.
Also the last part about choosing/testing UFO may not be so accurate these days ? Tell me...
Here it is (imgur is not happy with Tor):
https://img.bi/#/fPHZrnA!0ZcYZivXHJp9Tbm9i298cuKJQb1qRO02ZYvPW933
The text is coming from the anoncoin wiki, but the title and inter-titles are from me. There might be typos and bad grammer in them.
There will be a second part about IP addresses, and I2P.
Feel free to criticize, it's almost finished but still a draft. I'll work again on some of the visuals maybe, especially the "mixing coins" part wich I'm not too sure of, and maybe the colors are too flashy... I'll see that in the next days.
Leave your comments so that I can make changes if needed.
Also the last part about choosing/testing UFO may not be so accurate these days ? Tell me...
Here it is (imgur is not happy with Tor):
https://img.bi/#/fPHZrnA!0ZcYZivXHJp9Tbm9i298cuKJQb1qRO02ZYvPW933
This looks very polished and professional, thanks! As for the content, I think our primary use case for Zerocoin will be to move money between one user's various identities (clearnet, darknet long-term, multiple darknet short-term, etc.), rather than sending and receiving money from others. I'd like to emphasize graphically that the Zerocoins are "between" identities (where identities are a cluster of Anoncoin addresses linked to each other).
Whats the difference between zerocash and zerocoin? As far as im aware SDC is in the process of implementing zerocash into their anon system.
Zerocash is not yet fully developed - Miers and Green are not done with the code as far as I know, they wanted to release the Coin this time around, but who knows, nobody knows anything about it, so any Coin who says they implement Zerocash is basically ... lying.
Zerocoin will be implemented by the Anoncoin Devs, (with RSA UFOs, the original idea was without them), we dont know of any particular Coin with a real approach to implement it, at least nobody is doing the coding correctly (mostly they add the "ZC" branch to their source and that's it) Here in Anoncoin the Devs are really working on it (see source)
The technical differences between Zerocoin and Zerocash are in the wiki ... please read about it here
https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin_WikiFurther proof that you know nothing about Zerocoin/cash. RSA UFO idea is from the original zerocoin whitepaper:
http://spar.isi.jhu.edu/~mgreen/ZerocoinOakland.pdf
Ian Miers and his team abandoned Zerocoin to do an improved project called Zerocash.
Zerocash improves on an earlier protocol, Zerocoin, developed by some of the same authors, both in functionality (Zerocoin only hides a payment's origin, but not its destination or amount) and in efficiency (Zerocash transactions are less than 1KB and take less than 6ms to verify).
and they will do that in a REAL trustless manner:
In contrast to Bitcoin's transactions, payment transactions using the Zerocash protocol do not contain any public information about the payment's origin, destination, or amount; instead, the correctness of the transaction is demonstrated via the use of a zero-knowledge proof.
Source: http://zerocash-project.org/
If only they could generate the initial parameters in a trustless manner. NOBODY who cares about privacy is going to use a coin created by academic researcher funded by the US Department of defense in a system where TRUST must be given to the devs to throw away the master key. That is why zerocoin is superior. Yes there will be bloat issues, Yes the transactions are slower. But at least we will have trustless anonymity with RSA UFOs used to generate the initial parameters. All of zerocash's advantages are for nothing if the gov't has a private key that unlocks all anonymity and enables unlimited minting of coins.
Well put. One minor correction though: an attacker with the master key cannot de-anonymize everyone (apart from software backdoors or flaws), but IMO, having such an attacker be able to erase a currency's value whenever they want is bad enough to avoid using Zerocash.
The funny thing is that this might actually help the price because it stems the flow of ANC being dumped by the multipools.
Also if you have some scrypt hashing power you could help unstick us if you point it to an ANC pool.
Also if you have some scrypt hashing power you could help unstick us if you point it to an ANC pool.
wiki page is still down !!!!!
Works for me. It looks like it may take up to a week to crack this block if the miners get unlucky. Maybe we will get lucky and break it in less than 24 hours. Is this the largest mining pool? http://anc.cryptotroll.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=pool
This pool will find a block every 131 hours at current difficulty and hashrate.
Someone claimed that we are moving to auxpow or a different retargeting algo - is this something that is already in the code or just something the devs have just talked about. If it is already in the code, what block do the changes take effect?
This pool will find a block every 131 hours at current difficulty and hashrate.
Someone claimed that we are moving to auxpow or a different retargeting algo - is this something that is already in the code or just something the devs have just talked about. If it is already in the code, what block do the changes take effect?
Meeh is actively working on implementing it. AuxPoW will be included in the next hardfork the same time as the ZC mainnet. Also meeh has pasted a sample of a KGW replacement so thats going to be included for sure as well
Ok good to know. Would have been nice if this had been changed earlier but at least it's on their radar.
Also kgw is a laughably terrible retargeting algo apparently-
368, 368, 368, 369, 369, 369, 4792! LOL.
368, 368, 368, 369, 369, 369, 4792! LOL.
It looks like it may take up to a week to crack this block if the miners get unlucky. Maybe we will get lucky and break it in less than 24 hours. Is this the largest mining pool? http://anc.cryptotroll.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=pool
This pool will find a block every 131 hours at current difficulty and hashrate.
Someone claimed that we are moving to auxpow or a different retargeting algo - is this something that is already in the code or just something the devs have just talked about. If it is already in the code, what block do the changes take effect?
This pool will find a block every 131 hours at current difficulty and hashrate.
Someone claimed that we are moving to auxpow or a different retargeting algo - is this something that is already in the code or just something the devs have just talked about. If it is already in the code, what block do the changes take effect?
Meeh is actively working on implementing it. AuxPoW will be included in the next hardfork the same time as the ZC mainnet. Also meeh has pasted a sample of a KGW replacement so thats going to be included for sure as well
On the dot. lack of dev response is rather baffling.
Is the homepage and wiki being down for one whole day just a coincidence?
The network hashrate is CONSTANT at 158.37Gh /s for quite some time now. this is freaky because it should continuously hem and haw in my imo.
Is the homepage and wiki being down for one whole day just a coincidence?
The network hashrate is CONSTANT at 158.37Gh /s for quite some time now. this is freaky because it should continuously hem and haw in my imo.
*sigh* thats only hashrate for the last found block.
+1
It is impossible to know the current hashrate for the network, the best you can do is to try to add up the hashrate of the known pools. It is of course very low though or else we would have found a block recently.
On the dot. lack of dev response is rather baffling.
Is the homepage and wiki being down for one whole day just a coincidence?
The network hashrate is CONSTANT at 158.37Gh /s for quite some time now. this is freaky because it should continuously hem and haw in my imo.
Is the homepage and wiki being down for one whole day just a coincidence?
The network hashrate is CONSTANT at 158.37Gh /s for quite some time now. this is freaky because it should continuously hem and haw in my imo.
*sigh* thats only hashrate for the last found block.
+1
It is impossible to know the current hashrate for the network, the best you can do is to try to add up the hashrate of the known pools. It is of course very low though or else we would have found a block recently.
On the dot. lack of dev response is rather baffling.
Is the homepage and wiki being down for one whole day just a coincidence?
The network hashrate is CONSTANT at 158.37Gh /s for quite some time now. this is freaky because it should continuously hem and haw in my imo.
Is the homepage and wiki being down for one whole day just a coincidence?
The network hashrate is CONSTANT at 158.37Gh /s for quite some time now. this is freaky because it should continuously hem and haw in my imo.
*sigh* thats only hashrate for the last found block.
It looks like it may take up to a week to crack this block if the miners get unlucky. Maybe we will get lucky and break it in less than 24 hours. Is this the largest mining pool? http://anc.cryptotroll.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=pool
This pool will find a block every 131 hours at current difficulty and hashrate.
Someone claimed that we are moving to auxpow or a different retargeting algo - is this something that is already in the code or just something the devs have talked about. If it is already in the code, what block do the changes take effect?
This pool will find a block every 131 hours at current difficulty and hashrate.
Someone claimed that we are moving to auxpow or a different retargeting algo - is this something that is already in the code or just something the devs have talked about. If it is already in the code, what block do the changes take effect?
On the dot. lack of dev response is rather baffling.
Is the homepage and wiki being down for one whole day just a coincidence?
The network hashrate is CONSTANT at 158.37Gh /s for quite some time now. this is freaky because it should continuously hem and haw in my imo.
Is the homepage and wiki being down for one whole day just a coincidence?
The network hashrate is CONSTANT at 158.37Gh /s for quite some time now. this is freaky because it should continuously hem and haw in my imo.
What about the 158 GH of network hashrate !!!! Is it clear whether or not is there an attack going on. Is there any credible info ?
just to clearify,
there appears to be a larger multipool which periodically mining our coin. I roughly estimate the hashrate of this multipool is 5-6gigahashes per seconds approximately 60% of our total average hashrate. combined with a fluctuation in miner interest and a shitty difficulty targeting algo (kgw), there will be some sporadic periods of block finding delays until we switch to AuxPoW. Just to get an idea of the size of this mining pool, a Zues ASIC Miner is 300Mh/s and the Viper Litecoin ASIC Miner is 50 Mh/s so this mining pool is equlivant to about 20-100 ASICs,
158Gh/s is equivalent to the total LiteCoin hashrate, which would bring our difficulty orders of magnitudes higher than it is now. Nobody would spend that kind of hashrate on us with malicious intent when they could fork us without wasting hundreds of millions.
Yes, when the value of a coin doubles in a week, you can expect quite a bit of mining interest.
If there were an attack, we'd all know it, without a doubt by now, I think.
The increased mining interest would possibly indicate that our beloved troll's efforts have failed.... miserably.
Well the homepage and wiki have both been down for over twentyfour hours now.
There is no doubt that we suffer a very well organized attack from certainly a big organization or state. Check the difficulty chart:
http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/coins/anoncoin
The difficulty increase is a little more than 90%
A big Organization of state that wanted to attack us could 51% the chain with 6Gh/s, so no its not an attack.
What about the 158 GH of network hashrate !!!! Is it clear whether or not is there an attack going on. Is there any credible info ?
just to clearify,
there appears to be a larger multipool which periodically mining our coin. I roughly estimate the hashrate of this multipool is 5-6gigahashes per seconds approximately 60% of our total average hashrate. combined with a fluctuation in miner interest and a shitty difficulty targeting algo (kgw), there will be some sporadic periods of block finding delays until we switch to AuxPoW. Just to get an idea of the size of this mining pool, a Zues ASIC Miner is 300Mh/s and the Viper Litecoin ASIC Miner is 50 Mh/s so this mining pool is equlivant to about 20-100 ASICs,
158Gh/s is equivalent to the total LiteCoin hashrate, which would bring our difficulty orders of magnitudes higher than it is now. Nobody would spend that kind of hashrate on us with malicious intent when they could fork us without wasting hundreds of millions.
If this is not malicious, then who have the power to mine ANC with 500x Zeus ASIC Miner 300Mh/s (total value: 799.500,00$ to mine ANC
):https://zeusminer.com/product/zeusminer-volcano-300mhs1000wscrypt-asic-miner/
And they are in pre-order only!
Well i'm not sure how to respond to that other then by saying,
1) Currently our MarketCap is $ 707,647 so its kind of stupid
2)Those Miners are in --> PREORDER <-- ie not yet released
3)We are switching to AuxPoW
4) Once ZC testnet goes live hashrate will go up my at least a factor of ten
5) All those miners are not being sold to one entity and will inevitably increase the average hashrate of all coins not just ANC
but other than that, ya i guess were about as screwed as every other scrypt coin ATM
wiki page is still down !!!!!
What about the 158 GH of network hashrate !!!! Is it clear whether or not is there an attack going on. Is there any credible info ?
just to clearify,
there appears to be a larger multipool which periodically mining our coin. I roughly estimate the hashrate of this multipool is 5-6gigahashes per seconds approximately 60% of our total average hashrate. combined with a fluctuation in miner interest and a shitty difficulty targeting algo (kgw), there will be some sporadic periods of block finding delays until we switch to AuxPoW. Just to get an idea of the size of this mining pool, a Zues ASIC Miner is 300Mh/s and the Viper Litecoin ASIC Miner is 50 Mh/s so this mining pool is equlivant to about 20-100 ASICs,
158Gh/s is equivalent to the total LiteCoin hashrate, which would bring our difficulty orders of magnitudes higher than it is now. Nobody would spend that kind of hashrate on us with malicious intent when they could fork us without wasting hundreds of millions.
Yes, when the value of a coin doubles in a week, you can expect quite a bit of mining interest.
If there were an attack, we'd all know it, without a doubt by now, I think.
The increased mining interest would possibly indicate that our beloved troll's efforts have failed.... miserably.
Well the homepage and wiki have both been down for over twentyfour hours now.
What about the 158 GH of network hashrate !!!! Is it clear whether or not is there an attack going on. Is there any credible info ?
just to clearify,
there appears to be a larger multipool which periodically mining our coin. I roughly estimate the hashrate of this multipool is 5-6gigahashes per seconds approximately 60% of our total average hashrate. combined with a fluctuation in miner interest and a shitty difficulty targeting algo (kgw), there will be some sporadic periods of block finding delays until we switch to AuxPoW. Just to get an idea of the size of this mining pool, a Zues ASIC Miner is 300Mh/s and the Viper Litecoin ASIC Miner is 50 Mh/s so this mining pool is equlivant to about 20-100 ASICs,
158Gh/s is equivalent to the total LiteCoin hashrate, which would bring our difficulty orders of magnitudes higher than it is now. Nobody would spend that kind of hashrate on us with malicious intent when they could fork us without wasting hundreds of millions.
Yes, when the value of a coin doubles in a week, you can expect quite a bit of mining interest.
If there were an attack, we'd all know it, without a doubt by now, I think.
The increased mining interest would possibly indicate that our beloved troll's efforts have failed.... miserably.
last time it happened there was there was talk of a more adaptable difficulty calc, but nothing's actually broken, everything's working as it should:
- the intense hash rate increases the difficulty
- when it's taken away the difficulty is still high so blocks take a lot of time until the difficulty subsides
- the intense hash rate increases the difficulty
- when it's taken away the difficulty is still high so blocks take a lot of time until the difficulty subsides
Well yeah, though last time it wasn't so much GHs added ... the patch day is still far away
Sorry, I don't know anything about it.
The different mining algos
it's about ... 1 month away I guess. Yes they are planning on either a three or five chain auxPoW myriad.
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