Topic: Official Thread: AMT - page 263. (Read 678353 times)

I assume English is not your native language so you're probably interpreting the sentence incorrectly.  What AMT is saying there is that the chips and the cases are NOT made in USA but all other components for the completed rig are made in the USA.

does anyone know if AMT got the credit card processing limit raised yet??? no reply to my email or pm atm.

WTF??? It was not supposed to be the chips from Bitmine (Switzerland)
Again we have confusing misleading info.

Is it to soon to say we told you so? Gotta love the home team.

+1 
unfortunately so many other companies waited until the last minute to announce delays. Proof of this would go a long way

Please post a youtube video of these tests



Post a little more detail about these boards.  How many chips are on the board,  what is the size of the board,  how many boards on a 1.2 THs machine.   By being more specific about tiny details,  it helps your credibility.

Roughly how many chips are expected from Bitmine.ch  and how many 1.2 THs machines can be produced?

Hello again Y'all. Those who haven't been following my review thread, well, it got majorly derailed by the arrival of my daughter yesterday

Anyway, I just switched from Eligius to BTCguild about twenty minutes ago. I don't know a way to display stats from there that everyone can see. If any of you nice people know how to do that, could you please PM me?

Also, I have (on the advice of a technobit user) overclocked the thing to 920mv, and it is hashing a bit faster, though not quite as stable. Also, by switching to BTCguild it APPEARS to have a faster rate at the pool than I was getting at Eligius, but that could just be the short time frame.

Thanks again to AMT for giving me the thing to play with, and I'm doing my damndest to put it through it's paces. Now that Cara is born, I should have less running to the hospital time, and be able to do a more thorough write up.

I was sorry to read about Khanduras' misfortune, and glad that AMT has clarified that his miner is under warranty. I doubt that mine is But so far it has performed beautifully. The only thing I have to say is that it does draw quite a bit more power than the website states (or stated, I haven't looked in the last week). It's still not bad, it's like running a couple light bulbs full time. Real ones, not those mercury laden AlGorean nightmares.

This is a solid product from where I sit, and relatively easy for a newbie to figure out. With better docs, anyone who's semi literate could have it up and hashing in under five minutes. Took me longer because I didn't have docs and am a babe in the woods with linux, but still wasn't terribly hard. I'm hoping to mine enough with it to get more from AMT Though I suspect that will require other income streams.

Boom!  AMT coming through!  I feel 10x more confident about this purchase.

communication is always the first step. keep us all informed. Remember customers First.. even if they are just window shopping

Just an update: We're due to receive our full chip batch in next week. We received sample chips in a few weeks ago. Testing is positive and the board is running fine.

We've contracted a PCB/Computer contract manufacturing facility located in PA. They have been around for a long time, and are one of the leaders in the American electronic contract manufacturing market. They'll provide us with ability to streamline the assembly, surface mount, heat-sinks  mold (via their metal shop and glorious CNC machine) and several other areas where we may lack, like ISO certified and UL standard assembly of our miners. They're also currently assisting with streamlining the assembly processes of our smaller miners as well. And the 80's 128's and 180's are now down to a 14 day shipping lead time, and decreasing by 2 days or more each week.

Yes its another expense most wouldn't choose to do, but we feel keeping production of these miners local, rather than outsourcing everything to china like most, will pay off in the end. Everything, less our lian li cases and the chip is now produced in America, by Americans.

Speaking of our cases, yes they are expensive, and yes we could go with a cheaper case. In general Lian Li has been assisting us in modifying their existing cases to work for hashing boards and other components. And because of our bulk orders on the cases for the 1.2, they've given us a decent discount on the smaller cases as well. Also they are usually not purchased by the average joe because of their high price, allowing for a good amount of availability from local distributors as well.  That's why we use them.
Yes in general we have had issues with customer support due to our small staff which we've now expanded. Hopefully that wont be much of an issue anymore.

Streamlining these runs will allow to get back on track with our past orders and deliver future/current orders on the shipping dates we've promised. We expect to have miners out door within 7 to 10 days from the date we receive our chips. 5 of those days have to do with ISO certified processes that we can skip when working with true professionals.

We are always open to suggestions and informative contributions from the community as well. And will start accepting more involvement from community members as well. We see that most people are legit and our thread has become less of "AMT is a scam" to "AMT are amateur assemblers" and you know what, we can handle that.

Please know we're working hard, we have every intention of delivering as fast as possible. We thank our customers that have been loyal and have supported us thus far, and we'll find a way to take care of them in the future.


AMT

Appreciate the support ISAWHIM. In regards to his miner's supply, yes he can buy a new one from amazon, or he can ship us back the miner using our UPS account and we'll fix it and send it back to him back to him of course. These miners are under warranty.

Save them, and yourself the trouble... ask them if they would allow you to get one locally, and they refund you some coins for the trouble/purchase. (I believe it is cheaper to do it that way anyways. As opposed to re-shipping another one. PSU's are heavy-ish.)

I am sure you can find one with ample wattage, possibly at a great price now that new stuff is rolling onto shelves for income-tax time. Get one with 200 more watts available on the 12v rails. Though, I am sure it was just a faulty coin in the main transformer. Unless you see something actually seared in the PSU. (Loud pops are usually the thin-coated coil windings of the primary transformer shorting-out. Caps are more of a pfffffssst sound, and transistors and resistors are usually silent but smell horribly putrid.)

Seems to be a common thing happening with PSU's lately. Common = 1 in 1,000. Unlike the past, where it was less than 1 in 1,000,000 back when they actually tested products before shipping. Now they just ship, and "if" it pops, they replace without questioning it. Cheaper than testing millions, just to find the 1 in 1,000 that will pop. (I see a lot of that on reviews, and many "popped" PSU's end-up at my door for repair. Actually easy to fix, if it didn't take-out anything-else. But not worth the effort, unless it was a $400 PSU to begin with.)

Yeah the Bitmine manufacturing process seems pretty tight on quality (military grade QA rating), would be good if they spec'd the boards AND the power supplies too. These things destroy power supplies, I tried using a lower grade supply on 2 BFL's and it went pop in a few hours...curious how much choice they give the assembler/reseller to swap out stuff...cheaper stuff?

Try Ghash.io , seems like minimal to no fee's for personal miners, if using auto payout (once a day) versus immediate payout. I was using Eligius but recent outage put me off, I'd already setup others so made a quick switch to minimize downtime.

Oil has all sorts of problems, like its viscosity. Proper immersion cooling is done with different liquids that are inert, much more fluid and have a low boiling point. Fluorinert is most commonly used. and its expensive as hell. To give you an idea:
http://www.parallax-tech.com/fluorine.htm
$4-500 per liter.

For those interested, Asicminer has been working on immersion cooling for bitcoin:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/visit-of-asicminers-immersion-cooling-mining-facility-346134

It has substantial advantages, but being cheap is not one of them.

But the oil still needs to be cooled right? More heat sinks and fans are you thinking to do that then? I was referring to potential refrigeration unit?

First -  This thread is my soap opera, as someone said earlier, "...the train-wreck you can't quit watching...."; but the odds that AMT is going to vanish w/ people's cash
are decreasing as time passes. After they made the effort to answer about 8-9 of my questions earlier
 I too began to think they are just poor at managing relationships, that they are going to deliver.  Something, sometime.

Second - ( TROLL != SKEPTIC ) 
Third - ( TROLL != "anyone who disagrees w/ you" )

Fourth - the people who have been labeled 'TROLLS' were attempting to vet AMT so as to minimize the number of naive people who lost money
to a new, unknown, trash-talking company with poor comm skills and questionable claims.
Which is what it looks like when your community asks questions, ideally, the skeptics emerge for the benefit of the community.

There has been NO REASON to trust AMT and a lot of reasons,
both historical to this business and specific to the AMT instance, to distrust them. 

Most of us want them to succeed, but they don't succeed unless their clients are happy. 
All the pointless shit-talking is amazing when we are all on the same side here, ultimately.


Lastly : 
AMT - Once in my life I worked for a shipping company.
 Duct tape is -not- to be used, it splits along the thread lines.
 Use clear, 2"+ packing tape and stretch it along the seams of the boxes as you
seal it so it slightly compresses the seam. And wrap it in a continuous strip around the box.

Then pick the box up and dropkick it across the room.

If the miner did not survive,
->you<- did not pack it properly.

Start over, pack as before, then insert into another, larger box with packing material encapsulating
it on all 6 sides, including the bottom and top. Seal as before, including enough peanuts that, when the
box is compressed, the internal box is under pressure from the external setup.

Then purchase enough insurance on the parcel to cover the cost of a complete loss,
 +overhead for how pissed off your customer will be,
 + plus the time and money it will take you to re-do the whole thing
 + enough to make it all worth your while.
 
The amount may make the miner eligible for high value status within their system,
which may mean it will survive guys like I used to be. 
Guys who run over CRT monitors w/ semi's just to hear them *pop*
This is how it works. Based on the pix posted by biomech, you are lucky if every unit does not show up like Kanduras'.   

Man, I'm having the worst luck with this thing. Good when I had it, but it was running in the other room while I was working on a programming job, heard a loud-ass pop come from behind me, went to investigate, only to find out... the power supply blew. In grand fashion.

Contacting Jim and asking for a replacement. Or a refund. This thing has been nothing but trouble for me. Was good while it lasted, though. Either way, I'm not very happy.

A 28nm chip operating over a 6 month period to double it's return...a dream?  I guess we just have a very different assessment.  My 65nm chips are still making me $70 a day, two months after getting them, and I have already double my money.  Dreaming?  That's all some ever do, and they live with the result....they have their dreams.....and that's about it.

Keep dreaming.