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But the unfortunate event comes to these horses that sometimes they die unexpectedly, maybe from too much exhaustion and tiredness. I am not supporting this as I am with those people that just let the animals live on their habitat.

Maybe there are other reasons. The horse breed that fits for horse racing is capable to run even on the longest track allowed at horse racing. And these horses are only allowed to race 1 to 2 times per day and they will be set again for the race after a day period.

There are really unfortunate things that happened in horse racing but I doubt that was all intentional or if owners want it to happen. Or maybe someone is doing irregularities behind the shadows against their opponents which is possible to happen.
If there are irregularities being done by its care taker, we'll know it based on the reaction of the horse. Going to the main topic about cockpit, this is more brutal gambling. It's requiring one to hurt the other to have a winner. I know this is a crazy idea but they can't make a virtual one where it's like computer generated cocks and fights so that there will be no hurting anymore for these roosters?
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I have read somewhere the newly elected president and its administration will still ban the online sabong just like what the outgoing administration did. Sure the Philippines need the revenue but they cannot afford the consequence.

Before there was no E-Sabong here in the Philippines that's why I think the revenue coming here will be easily covered by the government. Supposed to be one of the good sources of revenue for the government during the pandemic but ended up in a worst result to the lives of people.

I don't see a declined revenue here because like I said, the hype of e-sabong was just around 2 years in operation here.

People here already accept that there's no e-sabong right now because there are still lots of e-gambling here as an alternative.

Certainly the revenue of E-Sabong has been a big help in the Philippines and it will still be of help if its operation will continue but the effect is just too great to deal as it is the lives of people we are talking and the government couldn't afford that kind of result.

The government can still find another alternative on where to find some good clean revenues without destroying some lives along the way, there's still a lot of option though.

Though it's a big help but we cannot deny the fact that it's not good for the poor, why? Because majority of the audience of e sabong are poor people, instead of using their money for the basic needs, they try to gamble it hoping that they'll win which we know gamblers would lose most of the time, so it's not really good.

Logically right poor people, even in the real world sabong, are mostly the participants of this kind of gambling.

They are most willing to try their luck and hope that they can easily double their funds with luck, unconsciously

realized that instead of using the money to buy food for their family, they lose everything and find themselves

problematic in finding how to cover those lose money. It's better this way, limits the access of those people who got

addicted and give them time to have a normal life.


Before there was only casual gambling with the cockfight and people see this as entertainment to them and satisfaction and now recently due to the pandemic there's an entertainment born which is the online cockfight and most of the people enjoy this because they can now make a wage through a specific website or platform by that many people too enjoying because of the affiliate program offers the invite can earn through this that's why its a win win situation for the everyone but again its gambling anything can happen due to being greedy.
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I have read somewhere the newly elected president and its administration will still ban the online sabong just like what the outgoing administration did. Sure the Philippines need the revenue but they cannot afford the consequence.

Before there was no E-Sabong here in the Philippines that's why I think the revenue coming here will be easily covered by the government. Supposed to be one of the good sources of revenue for the government during the pandemic but ended up in a worst result to the lives of people.

I don't see a declined revenue here because like I said, the hype of e-sabong was just around 2 years in operation here.

People here already accept that there's no e-sabong right now because there are still lots of e-gambling here as an alternative.

Certainly the revenue of E-Sabong has been a big help in the Philippines and it will still be of help if its operation will continue but the effect is just too great to deal as it is the lives of people we are talking and the government couldn't afford that kind of result.

The government can still find another alternative on where to find some good clean revenues without destroying some lives along the way, there's still a lot of option though.

Though it's a big help but we cannot deny the fact that it's not good for the poor, why? Because majority of the audience of e sabong are poor people, instead of using their money for the basic needs, they try to gamble it hoping that they'll win which we know gamblers would lose most of the time, so it's not really good.

Logically right poor people, even in the real world sabong, are mostly the participants of this kind of gambling.

They are most willing to try their luck and hope that they can easily double their funds with luck, unconsciously

realized that instead of using the money to buy food for their family, they lose everything and find themselves

problematic in finding how to cover those lose money. It's better this way, limits the access of those people who got

addicted and give them time to have a normal life.
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I have read somewhere the newly elected president and its administration will still ban the online sabong just like what the outgoing administration did. Sure the Philippines need the revenue but they cannot afford the consequence.

Before there was no E-Sabong here in the Philippines that's why I think the revenue coming here will be easily covered by the government. Supposed to be one of the good sources of revenue for the government during the pandemic but ended up in a worst result to the lives of people.

I don't see a declined revenue here because like I said, the hype of e-sabong was just around 2 years in operation here.

People here already accept that there's no e-sabong right now because there are still lots of e-gambling here as an alternative.

Certainly the revenue of E-Sabong has been a big help in the Philippines and it will still be of help if its operation will continue but the effect is just too great to deal as it is the lives of people we are talking and the government couldn't afford that kind of result.

The government can still find another alternative on where to find some good clean revenues without destroying some lives along the way, there's still a lot of option though.

Though it's a big help but we cannot deny the fact that it's not good for the poor, why? Because majority of the audience of e sabong are poor people, instead of using their money for the basic needs, they try to gamble it hoping that they'll win which we know gamblers would lose most of the time, so it's not really good.
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I have read somewhere the newly elected president and its administration will still ban the online sabong just like what the outgoing administration did. Sure the Philippines need the revenue but they cannot afford the consequence.

Before there was no E-Sabong here in the Philippines that's why I think the revenue coming here will be easily covered by the government. Supposed to be one of the good sources of revenue for the government during the pandemic but ended up in a worst result to the lives of people.

I don't see a declined revenue here because like I said, the hype of e-sabong was just around 2 years in operation here.

People here already accept that there's no e-sabong right now because there are still lots of e-gambling here as an alternative.

Certainly the revenue of E-Sabong has been a big help in the Philippines and it will still be of help if its operation will continue but the effect is just too great to deal as it is the lives of people we are talking and the government couldn't afford that kind of result.

The government can still find another alternative on where to find some good clean revenues without destroying some lives along the way, there's still a lot of option though.
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But the unfortunate event comes to these horses that sometimes they die unexpectedly, maybe from too much exhaustion and tiredness. I am not supporting this as I am with those people that just let the animals live on their habitat.

Maybe there are other reasons. The horse breed that fits for horse racing is capable to run even on the longest track allowed at horse racing. And these horses are only allowed to race 1 to 2 times per day and they will be set again for the race after a day period.

There are really unfortunate things that happened in horse racing but I doubt that was all intentional or if owners want it to happen. Or maybe someone is doing irregularities behind the shadows against their opponents which is possible to happen.
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These horses are trained in a well-developed environment. There's no way the horse owners who are putting big money here and in the end, will do some bad treatment on their horses.  Contrary to what are you saying, they will do everything to make these horses fit in the race.

You as an owner for example and spending lots of money on your horse, do you want your horse to be trained in a harsh condition? Of course, no.

How can you win if you will treat your horses badly during the preparation time?
I do agree that if you own horses, you will treat them very well so that they are in good condition before they set a race.
But the unfortunate event comes to these horses that sometimes they die unexpectedly, maybe from too much exhaustion and tiredness. I am not supporting this as I am with those people that just let the animals live on their habitat.
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The risk of animals getting tortured is actually the same with ones who are just racing with each other just like horse racing, these horses are trained in harsh conditions in additional of using some whip to discipline the horses. So, it's still an animal cruelty but does the people or government care about this? I think the answer would be, NO.

These horses are trained in a well-developed environment. There's no way the horse owners who are putting big money here and in the end, will do some bad treatment on their horses.  Contrary to what are you saying, they will do everything to make these horses fit in the race.

You as an owner for example and spending lots of money on your horse, do you want your horse to be trained in a harsh condition? Of course, no.

How can you win if you will treat your horses badly during the preparation time?
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We cannot know the feelings of the animals used for betting. But it seems sadistic to use animals to satisfy our desire to gamble. This may be similar to the ancient gladiators fighting each other to be the strongest.

Betting using animals is a game that has been around for a long time and now, with a few modifications, gamblers continue to use it to gamble.
It depends, if the animals are just racing against each other or they are doing another activity that does not put them at risk then I do not see too much of a problem with it, however when the animals are forced to fight then that is when this becomes really problematic, as they are being breed, trained and forced to fight, and I am sure this does not sit well with a great deal of people.

The risk of animals getting tortured is actually the same with ones who are just racing with each other just like horse racing, these horses are trained in harsh conditions in additional of using some whip to discipline the horses. So, it's still an animal cruelty but does the people or government care about this? I think the answer would be, NO.
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I believe the online cockfighting started because they are finding a way to still continue doing operations in the midst of the pandemic. And I am still in doubt that this would be stopped successfully. I have heard that the current administration is not so clean with regards to its intentions, and that many government officials are also involved or behind such cockpit hubs. At the end of the day, it would depend on the citizens if they will still continue to support such activity.

Online cockfighting in the Philippines has been giving a lot of revenues and big income for the country, but recently worst cases have been reported that made it more controversial. But i don't agree on banning this, even if i'm not into cockfighting but i do think that in events like this, the government can resort into  putting more restrictions on cockfighting, and banning it totally is not the solution. In the first place, the gamblers themselves should also be responsible enough to set limitations so they can control their losses.
Don't worry mate, cockfighting in the Philippines is still legal in only specific venues around the Philippine archipelago and this coliseums won't operate everyday just like the traditional time. They are only banning the online sabong or they rather call it as E-Sabong because people can have an easy access on its site as long as you're just 18 years old above and have an online platform called GCash.

I have read somewhere the newly elected president and its administration will still ban the online sabong just like what the outgoing administration did. Sure the Philippines need the revenue but they cannot afford the consequence.

It's better to know that the newly elected president value the decision of our outgoing one, the ban should be continued, it's a moral

obligation of the upcoming government the money that they earned from this business, the taxation can be covered in other ways.

Philippines still have lots of alternative if the focus is on how to gather fund, though the income of the government from the tax of

this business is really huge.
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If so, then it won't be a problem. What will be a problem is the number of people who still use animals to fight for their satisfaction and sacrifice animals. We may have often seen the animals dying after the fight and there was no further treatment and the animals tended to be left alone. That is why it seems that it is no longer suitable for such traditional betting in this day and age because everything has changed.
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We cannot know the feelings of the animals used for betting. But it seems sadistic to use animals to satisfy our desire to gamble. This may be similar to the ancient gladiators fighting each other to be the strongest.

Betting using animals is a game that has been around for a long time and now, with a few modifications, gamblers continue to use it to gamble.
It depends, if the animals are just racing against each other or they are doing another activity that does not put them at risk then I do not see too much of a problem with it, however when the animals are forced to fight then that is when this becomes really problematic, as they are being breed, trained and forced to fight, and I am sure this does not sit well with a great deal of people.
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I have read somewhere the newly elected president and its administration will still ban the online sabong just like what the outgoing administration did. Sure the Philippines need the revenue but they cannot afford the consequence.

Before there was no E-Sabong here in the Philippines that's why I think the revenue coming here will be easily covered by the government. Supposed to be one of the good sources of revenue for the government during the pandemic but ended up in a worst result to the lives of people.

I don't see a declined revenue here because like I said, the hype of e-sabong was just around 2 years in operation here.

People here already accept that there's no e-sabong right now because there are still lots of e-gambling here as an alternative.
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I believe the online cockfighting started because they are finding a way to still continue doing operations in the midst of the pandemic. And I am still in doubt that this would be stopped successfully. I have heard that the current administration is not so clean with regards to its intentions, and that many government officials are also involved or behind such cockpit hubs. At the end of the day, it would depend on the citizens if they will still continue to support such activity.

Online cockfighting in the Philippines has been giving a lot of revenues and big income for the country, but recently worst cases have been reported that made it more controversial. But i don't agree on banning this, even if i'm not into cockfighting but i do think that in events like this, the government can resort into  putting more restrictions on cockfighting, and banning it totally is not the solution. In the first place, the gamblers themselves should also be responsible enough to set limitations so they can control their losses.
Don't worry mate, cockfighting in the Philippines is still legal in only specific venues around the Philippine archipelago and this coliseums won't operate everyday just like the traditional time. They are only banning the online sabong or they rather call it as E-Sabong because people can have an easy access on its site as long as you're just 18 years old above and have an online platform called GCash.

I have read somewhere the newly elected president and its administration will still ban the online sabong just like what the outgoing administration did. Sure the Philippines need the revenue but they cannot afford the consequence.
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What triggers about this banning is those incident where many gamblers(Sabongero name in Philippines) gone missing plus there are so many testament that their lives or other person they know has been totally wrecked that's why the government has found valid grounds to temporarily suspends its operation and settle first their issue to see if they can go back or not.

I agree, there are many valid reasons from that grounds and the government needs to act to avoid more cases to happen, they are now closed, the operation of online sabong is no longer legal and the proceedings for every file cases will continue, if those cases will be resolve maybe we will see some considerations from the government, just speaking on my own opinion though. I'm not an expert in regard to any legal things that may change the opinion of the government regarding to this online gambling(sabong)
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Online cockfighting will soon get down to the NFT trends that's when the government may not be able to ban such gambling. It will be a fun game to watch NFT cocks fight. It won't hurt anybody's feelings anymore. The world is going digital.
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We cannot know the feelings of the animals used for betting. But it seems sadistic to use animals to satisfy our desire to gamble. This may be similar to the ancient gladiators fighting each other to be the strongest.

Betting using animals is a game that has been around for a long time and now, with a few modifications, gamblers continue to use it to gamble.
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What triggers about this banning is those incident where many gamblers(Sabongero name in Philippines) gone missing plus there are so many testament that their lives or other person they know has been totally wrecked that's why the government has found valid grounds to temporarily suspends its operation and settle first their issue to see if they can go back or not.
I think it has more to do with how many lives of people who gamble are ruined and can't get their lost money, even though they still decide to gamble. In addition, gamblers can still return to other gambling places because it is possible that the gambling place has moved and no one will know except for people who often play gambling.
After reading so many comments- I think animal fighting is brutal. Animals get hurt. But this is not help. These games will continue nothing will change.
This is an ancient game -  I m not sure how cock feels after the fight. Does their body aches like wrestlers  when they have done with their fight!
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I think it has more to do with how many lives of people who gamble are ruined and can't get their lost money, even though they still decide to gamble. In addition, gamblers can still return to other gambling places because it is possible that the gambling place has moved and no one will know except for people who often play gambling.
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Online cockfighting was like by the all the countries including Philippines.Cock fighting was liked by all the people all over the world.The most awaited game of cock game was unique one,the real cock fight was unique one.Many of the people was addicted to real cock fight.Cock was the most awaited online business.It’s was surprising to know the fact Philippines was banned online cockfight.
Cockfighting wasnt really just known in Philippines but also in other countries like Germany,Spain,England,Scotland and Wales but just like been said by most people on here that it wasnt the cockfighting had been banned
or prohibit but with that online betting that involves into it which there are  some misconceptions or not clear description on such ban where people believe that cockfighting was indeed
already been prohibited which it isnt the case on what had been described or talked on here.
The title itself, "online cockfighting", it's easy to understand that it's only online that is ban because there are still big cockfighting arenas that are operating in the Philippines. The government is just trying to limit people from gambling because they see it's easier for them to gamble online as evidence by what operators are making in terms of revenue.

It's easy to monitor the offline cockfighting they can limit the arena's operating hours and those who can get in, while online they have no control over who can play and there are no operating hours you can play as long as you like, there's no problem in funding you can go to a convenience store there is an atm like machine you fund your online wallet and fund your e-sabong account and you can play anytime, any place and ay your own convenience, I've read a lot of fo people losing their jobs because they can easy money but they also lose a lot.
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