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Online cockfighting was like by the all the countries including Philippines.Cock fighting was liked by all the people all over the world.The most awaited game of cock game was unique one,the real cock fight was unique one.Many of the people was addicted to real cock fight.Cock was the most awaited online business.It’s was surprising to know the fact Philippines was banned online cockfight.

Cockfighting wasnt really just known in Philippines but also in other countries like Germany,Spain,England,Scotland and Wales but just like been said by most people on here that it wasnt the cockfighting had been banned
or prohibit but with that online betting that involves into it which there are some misconceptions or not clear description on such ban where people believe that cockfighting was indeed
already been prohibited which it isnt the case on what had been described or talked on here.

The title itself, "online cockfighting", it's easy to understand that it's only online that is ban because there are still big cockfighting arenas that are operating in the Philippines. The government is just trying to limit people from gambling because they see it's easier for them to gamble online as evidence by what operators are making in terms of revenue.

What triggers about this banning is those incident where many gamblers(Sabongero name in Philippines) gone missing plus there are so many testament that their lives or other person they know has been totally wrecked that's why the government has found valid grounds to temporarily suspends its operation and settle first their issue to see if they can go back or not.

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Quote from: roslinpl on May 15, 2022, 05:30:46 PM

Online cockfighting was like by the all the countries including Philippines.Cock fighting was liked by all the people all over the world.The most awaited game of cock game was unique one,the real cock fight was unique one.Many of the people was addicted to real cock fight.Cock was the most awaited online business.It’s was surprising to know the fact Philippines was banned online cockfight.

Cockfighting wasnt really just known in Philippines but also in other countries like Germany,Spain,England,Scotland and Wales but just like been said by most people on here that it wasnt the cockfighting had been banned
or prohibit but with that online betting that involves into it which there are some misconceptions or not clear description on such ban where people believe that cockfighting was indeed
already been prohibited which it isnt the case on what had been described or talked on here.

The title itself, "online cockfighting", it's easy to understand that it's only online that is ban because there are still big cockfighting arenas that are operating in the Philippines. The government is just trying to limit people from gambling because they see it's easier for them to gamble online as evidence by what operators are making in terms of revenue.

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I believe the online cockfighting started because they are finding a way to still continue doing operations in the midst of the pandemic. And I am still in doubt that this would be stopped successfully. I have heard that the current administration is not so clean with regards to its intentions, and that many government officials are also involved or behind such cockpit hubs. At the end of the day, it would depend on the citizens if they will still continue to support such activity.

Online cockfighting in the Philippines has been giving a lot of revenues and big income for the country, but recently worst cases have been reported that made it more controversial. But i don't agree on banning this, even if i'm not into cockfighting but i do think that in events like this, the government can resort into putting more restrictions on cockfighting, and banning it totally is not the solution. In the first place, the gamblers themselves should also be responsible enough to set limitations so they can control their losses.

Gamblers are too emotional and that is why most of them fall on the trap and become more greedy which is very risky and banning online cockfighting might be the best solution even if the government will lose big money here. Those incidents are not just part of this, that is the result of being greedy of many and taking others lives just because of gambling is not good at all. Traditional cockfighting will still be here, and that is a good alternative if you still want to bet on cockfighting.

It will be there only the online betting will be prohibited. There are newcomers to this game who have misconceptions regarding to the ban, online sabong who gained a lot of interest during the lockdown gives gamblers easy access to this game. The sad thing that happened, many falls to addictions, we can't deny the fact that the facilitator gives a good lift for the economy but the on the other side,

lots of people suffered from losing a huge amount of money to the point that they've fallen into big debt are also part of considerations why the President decides to close or to prohibit the online existence of this kind of betting.

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Quote from: roslinpl on May 15, 2022, 05:30:46 PM

Online cockfighting was like by the all the countries including Philippines.Cock fighting was liked by all the people all over the world.The most awaited game of cock game was unique one,the real cock fight was unique one.Many of the people was addicted to real cock fight.Cock was the most awaited online business.It’s was surprising to know the fact Philippines was banned online cockfight.

Cockfighting wasnt really just known in Philippines but also in other countries like Germany,Spain,England,Scotland and Wales but just like been said by most people on here that it wasnt the cockfighting had been banned
or prohibit but with that online betting that involves into it which there are some misconceptions or not clear description on such ban where people believe that cockfighting was indeed
already been prohibited which it isnt the case on what had been described or talked on here.

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Online cockfighting was like by the all the countries including Philippines. Cock fighting was liked by all the people all over the world. The most awaited game of cock game was unique one,the real cock fight was unique one. Many of the people was addicted to real cock fight. Cock was the most awaited online business. It’s was surprising to know the fact Philippines was banned online cockfight.

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Quote from: Viscore on May 15, 2022, 04:46:15 PM

Quote from: zidanw on May 13, 2022, 11:35:51 AM

I believe the online cockfighting started because they are finding a way to still continue doing operations in the midst of the pandemic. And I am still in doubt that this would be stopped successfully. I have heard that the current administration is not so clean with regards to its intentions, and that many government officials are also involved or behind such cockpit hubs. At the end of the day, it would depend on the citizens if they will still continue to support such activity.

Online cockfighting in the Philippines has been giving a lot of revenues and big income for the country, but recently worst cases have been reported that made it more controversial. But i don't agree on banning this, even if i'm not into cockfighting but i do think that in events like this, the government can resort into putting more restrictions on cockfighting, and banning it totally is not the solution. In the first place, the gamblers themselves should also be responsible enough to set limitations so they can control their losses.

Gamblers are too emotional and that is why most of them fall on the trap and become more greedy which is very risky and banning online cockfighting might be the best solution even if the government will lose big money here. Those incidents are not just part of this, that is the result of being greedy of many and taking others lives just because of gambling is not good at all. Traditional cockfighting will still be here, and that is a good alternative if you still want to bet on cockfighting.

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Quote from: zidanw on May 13, 2022, 11:35:51 AM

I believe the online cockfighting started because they are finding a way to still continue doing operations in the midst of the pandemic. And I am still in doubt that this would be stopped successfully. I have heard that the current administration is not so clean with regards to its intentions, and that many government officials are also involved or behind such cockpit hubs. At the end of the day, it would depend on the citizens if they will still continue to support such activity.

Online cockfighting in the Philippines has been giving a lot of revenues and big income for the country, but recently worst cases have been reported that made it more controversial. But i don't agree on banning this, even if i'm not into cockfighting but i do think that in events like this, the government can resort into putting more restrictions on cockfighting, and banning it totally is not the solution. In the first place, the gamblers themselves should also be responsible enough to set limitations so they can control their losses.

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In the GCASPP app itself, you can access the online betting (Pitmasters) different from the only method before that you can only play thru an agent and send them the money. Since it was easily accessed on the GCASH app, the deposit is just one click making the whole gambling easily accessible by almost all GCASH users.

Either you'll need an agent or directly use the app, the fact is many bettors became addicted because it is convenient and accessible even for minors.

Its not really surprising why it became popular because cockfighting is a traditional gambling game in PH. Thus when the e-cockfighting became available, many got hooked, some people earn but its likely majority of these gamblers lose their money.

Nevertheless like any other gambling games, if you dont have control you might really end up in a worst situation.

I remember those jokes, gambler able to buy an NMAX after playing E-sabong online thinking that it was good but the sad truth the person used to have a Montero and with bad fate he losses from E-sabong and sold his Montero. A lot of cases happened. Some made a joke but behind that, there are realities which un-controlled cases that end up losing a huge amount of money from this gambling venue.

These memes kinda gets me everytime I saw it at those times as you might thought that you can envy them knowing that they have a bought some motorcycle by joining the platform. But after reading the other half, you'll know that they have lose their money as they previously had a car instead.
Anyway, these people are the one that should have not started gambling as they have no control on their self. Knowing that they have resorted on selling their properties just to bet on the platform.

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Was it only in PH? I was curious if there is an online cockfighting that accepted cryptocurrency, I think restriction of this kind of matches should be worldwide I think most of the rooster are dead after fighting. I mean this is way more bad than horse racing since people let the rooster fight to death.

Afaik, PH is where you can find a lot of cockfighting events the same way you can find a lot of cockpits in every cities and provinces. And NO, I don't know or see platforms that offers crypto betting with cockfighting (atleast here in PH). That's all because there's not enough client on crypto betting with cockfighting in the country. Most crypto users here are either traders, investors in all sort of NFT, or gambling in an online gambling websites.

Maybe the reason why online gambling here or traditional gambling here in Ph it's because crypto is not yet honored in here, many people will be glad if crypto can be used in that kind of gambling but I still don't support cockfighting even though my grandfather used to be addictive to cockfighting when we are still young way back 90's.

Nope, it doesn't really change a thing even if cryptocurrency is honored in the Philippines because gambling especially cockfighting can really ruin someone's lives and worse is if their family will also suffer than consequence. I'm good for these traditional cockfighting because mostly these kinds of things will only take place for sometime like weekends or some festivals whereas E-Sabong that people can always play everyday 24/7 and that would surely affect some lives.

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Quote from: lienfaye on May 15, 2022, 12:40:57 AM

Quote from: harizen on May 14, 2022, 05:37:53 PM

In the GCASPP app itself, you can access the online betting (Pitmasters) different from the only method before that you can only play thru an agent and send them the money. Since it was easily accessed on the GCASH app, the deposit is just one click making the whole gambling easily accessible by almost all GCASH users.

Either you'll need an agent or directly use the app, the fact is many bettors became addicted because it is convenient and accessible even for minors.

Its not really surprising why it became popular because cockfighting is a traditional gambling game in PH. Thus when the e-cockfighting became available, many got hooked, some people earn but its likely majority of these gamblers lose their money.

Nevertheless like any other gambling games, if you dont have control you might really end up in a worst situation.

I remember those jokes, gambler able to buy an NMAX after playing E-sabong online thinking that it was good but the sad truth the person used to have a Montero and with bad fate he losses from E-sabong and sold his Montero. A lot of cases happened. Some made a joke but behind that, there are realities which un-controlled cases that end up losing a huge amount of money from this gambling venue.

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Quote from: Botnake on May 15, 2022, 07:44:02 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on May 15, 2022, 06:49:09 AM

Gambling favors the operators because they have the edge, like in online cockfighting, the operator would always take at least a minimum of 10% from your winning and they already do the math to reflect on the odds you are talking, they are making a lot of money from that, so overall, gamblers are losing more than they win.

That's why they are playing huge taxes because they are making of money from their operation, and yet the government still decided to stop the online sabong. As you can read in the article below ;

Atong Ang’s e-sabong firm earns P3B gross income per month, senators learn

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MANILA, Philippines — The government generates a P640-million revenue from e-sabong operations in the country per month, a “pittance” compared to the P3 billion gross monthly income being earned by the online sabong firm of gaming consultant Atong Ang.

That's a lot of money right?

For those who are not from the Philippines, you can convert that amount to $57 million per month.

One of the industries that another good contributor to our country was E-sabong or cockfighting especially as how it got it's limelight and hype from our people. Almost everyone was involve and has been joining e-sabong as content creators or youtubers are one of their main promoters and advertisers.
No wonder even teenagers who doesn't have any knowledge with cockfighting are applying as an e-sabong operator. One other thing, as to why it got so many players as joining or betting is too easy if you have a sim card.
Anyway, it's a good thing that this activity has been stopped as there are too many negative aspects it involves mainly is animal cruelty. Also, I don't even know why people who don't really gamble will join the platform which causes them to be addicted and just as OP said getting broke, losing assets, property and even their own family members.

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Its not really surprising why it became popular because cockfighting is a traditional gambling game in PH. Thus when the e-cockfighting became available, many got hooked, some people earn but its likely majority of these gamblers lose their money.

Nevertheless like any other gambling games, if you dont have control you might really end up in a worst situation.

Gambling is game that discussed of profit and lost and we all know it that way, if everybody gain for gaming or gambling is not longer a gamble, the sweetness and the bitterness of gambling is gain and profit as we discussed from the beginning. Ending up in the worst situation of gambling is when you don't know the originality of the game some get luck of getting prosper for gamble

Gambling favors the operators because they have the edge, like in online cockfighting, the operator would always take at least a minimum of 10% from your winning and they already do the math to reflect on the odds you are talking, they are making a lot of money from that, so overall, gamblers are losing more than they win.

That's why they are playing huge taxes because they are making of money from their operation, and yet the government still decided to stop the online sabong. As you can read in the article below ;

Atong Ang’s e-sabong firm earns P3B gross income per month, senators learn

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MANILA, Philippines — The government generates a P640-million revenue from e-sabong operations in the country per month, a “pittance” compared to the P3 billion gross monthly income being earned by the online sabong firm of gaming consultant Atong Ang.

That's a lot of money right?

For those who are not from the Philippines, you can convert that amount to $57 million per month.

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Quote from: Ebede on May 15, 2022, 05:33:53 AM

Quote from: lienfaye on May 15, 2022, 12:40:57 AM

Its not really surprising why it became popular because cockfighting is a traditional gambling game in PH. Thus when the e-cockfighting became available, many got hooked, some people earn but its likely majority of these gamblers lose their money.

Nevertheless like any other gambling games, if you dont have control you might really end up in a worst situation.

Gambling is game that discussed of profit and lost and we all know it that way, if everybody gain for gaming or gambling is not longer a gamble, the sweetness and the bitterness of gambling is gain and profit as we discussed from the beginning. Ending up in the worst situation of gambling is when you don't know the originality of the game some get luck of getting prosper for gamble

Gambling favors the operators because they have the edge, like in online cockfighting, the operator would always take at least a minimum of 10% from your winning and they already do the math to reflect on the odds you are talking, they are making a lot of money from that, so overall, gamblers are losing more than they win.

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Quote from: lienfaye on May 15, 2022, 12:40:57 AM

Its not really surprising why it became popular because cockfighting is a traditional gambling game in PH. Thus when the e-cockfighting became available, many got hooked, some people earn but its likely majority of these gamblers lose their money.

Nevertheless like any other gambling games, if you dont have control you might really end up in a worst situation.

Gambling is game that discussed of profit and lost and we all know it that way, if everybody gain for gaming or gambling is not longer a gamble, the sweetness and the bitterness of gambling is gain and profit as we discussed from the beginning. Ending up in the worst situation of gambling is when you don't know the originality of the game some get luck of getting prosper for gamble

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Some people had involved in gambling and get huge addicted towards it.When they keep loss of their money,they will will play to get back their loss money.This may leads to sell all their properties and involve in the gambling.If they loss all ,they will move to sell their own children and try to play the game using it.The important one is playing gambling is not a wrong one.You should not addicted to it.

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In our society there will always be layers more susceptible to various addictions whether it be gambling, alcohol or drugs. It is good that the state is paying attention to the existing problems, but it seems to me that the prohibition will not solve them. We need to develop a comprehensive program with treatment for addicts, encouraging athletes, and building new infrastructure, which would attract young people to do something useful, rather than seeking opportunities to brighten up their leisure time on the Internet or in bad company.

Well, even though we can not say that not all gamblers for this E-Sabong, or E-Cock fight, could be addicted, and there would be an estimated number of cases here in our country, and yes, prohibiting this would not solve anything, for me, I am neutral with E-Sabong it would sure give large income tax for the country, but it could be a problem for our few countrymen, it is a double edge sword and the president choose the people, but there are some people that feel negative about it,

Other than that, I feel that other countries could relate to this with their gambling platforms and I could think of dogfighting in some countries are like Cockfighting, here, and other countries are prohibiting the use of animals in this kind of activity, and they are against cruelty to animals, and banning certain gambling that uses, Cocks, Dog, Bull, Spider, gambling activity that involves the deaths of animals for their leisure,

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Quote from: harizen on May 14, 2022, 05:37:53 PM

In the GCASPP app itself, you can access the online betting (Pitmasters) different from the only method before that you can only play thru an agent and send them the money. Since it was easily accessed on the GCASH app, the deposit is just one click making the whole gambling easily accessible by almost all GCASH users.

Either you'll need an agent or directly use the app, the fact is many bettors became addicted because it is convenient and accessible even for minors.

Its not really surprising why it became popular because cockfighting is a traditional gambling game in PH. Thus when the e-cockfighting became available, many got hooked, some people earn but its likely majority of these gamblers lose their money.

Nevertheless like any other gambling games, if you dont have control you might really end up in a worst situation.

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Quote from: molsewid on May 14, 2022, 08:05:56 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on May 14, 2022, 06:05:27 AM

Quote from: perla on May 13, 2022, 03:49:06 AM

Was it only in PH? I was curious if there is an online cockfighting that accepted cryptocurrency, I think restriction of this kind of matches should be worldwide I think most of the rooster are dead after fighting. I mean this is way more bad than horse racing since people let the rooster fight to death.

Afaik, PH is where you can find a lot of cockfighting events the same way you can find a lot of cockpits in every cities and provinces. And NO, I don't know or see platforms that offers crypto betting with cockfighting (atleast here in PH). That's all because there's not enough client on crypto betting with cockfighting in the country. Most crypto users here are either traders, investors in all sort of NFT, or gambling in an online gambling websites.

Maybe the reason why online gambling here or traditional gambling here in Ph it's because crypto is not yet honored in here, many people will be glad if crypto can be used in that kind of gambling but I still don't support cockfighting even though my grandfather used to be addictive to cockfighting when we are still young way back 90's.

It is an activity that is still practiced in many countries around the world but that is slowly losing some popularity as people are now more aware about animal rights and similar causes, the truth is that unlike other activities in which animals are also participants, like races, putting two animals to fight is simply wrong, so I am glad that something like this is is being banned as even if the money the government gets from this seems to be significant, sometimes we need to put our principles above any monetary gain.

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I feel that PH decision is very appropriate to stop online cockfighting even though it reduces state revenue. because actually what I know is that the state guarantees the welfare of the people, if you only care about state income but ignore the impact that is happening, his leadership deserves to be questioned.

getting tax money from cockfighting sounds pathetic imo. I don't know if this regulation will be effectively implemented and residents (who used to play cockfighting and their providers) really stop playing cockfighting online

Don't worry about people's income because they will definitely be able to adapt to changing conditions

When it comes to laws and legalities then there's a certain extent on where cockfighting is been considered or be legal.
https://putakputak.com/poultry/gamefowls/the-laws-and-legalities-of-cockfighting-in-the-philippines/

Depends if a certain place is an arena then its understandable that it is under law but to those who had been making these events
which is out of the scope of government or simply doesnt pay tax then it would be an another story.

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Quote from: inanilujimi on May 14, 2022, 08:22:06 AM

I feel that PH decision is very appropriate to stop online cockfighting even though it reduces state revenue. because actually what I know is that the state guarantees the welfare of the people, if you only care about state income but ignore the impact that is happening, his leadership deserves to be questioned.

getting tax money from cockfighting sounds pathetic imo. I don't know if this regulation will be effectively implemented and residents (who used to play cockfighting and their providers) really stop playing cockfighting online

Don't worry about people's income because they will definitely be able to adapt to changing conditions

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