Topic: Pirate accomplices - page 13. (Read 30339 times)

^^This is the real reason bitcoin will never become mainstream.  This internet-vigilante-stalker shtick does more harm to bitcoin's image than any obvious scam.

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Not only do I love how you write, I admire the way you look out for the community.

The terms of the PPTs were very clear. The vigilante sentiment that has been floating around lately is just sickening (even considering the hyperbole).

Goatski! I'm stunned. When have you ever known me to retract a statement? Or (yuck, it just sounds wrong even writing it...) deleting a post to be politically correct? And please, for the sake of debatorial consistency, re-read my post. I said nothing that was anti free market or pro-regulation. If anything, I was pro LYNCH MOB. Pro-regulation typically does not include forced branding of the face, Nazi gang rape in prison, or the application of smiting the evil law to the finances of the accused. Free markets, of which I am a well armed, deep thinking and militant activist for, are not the protected playgrounds of the criminal, and those who call for the execution of or at the very least physical torture, and forced servitude of criminals who violate the mores of that market is not against the system, they are the advocates of that system bringing justice and consequence to those who would violate the market for unethical gain.

As an early adopter of the Pass Thru Bond, and a vocal advocate of the system... you have made considerable gain from your use of the "pirate system" whatever that system may be. That's great for you, and those that have profited with you. But if this whole "pirate system" turns out to be a scam writ large, as I and many others suspect it will be, you will not be on the side of the angels if you sit back and try to wrap yourself in a cloak of outrage about attitudes towards free markets. Free markets are not about a license to cheat, they are about removing artificial constructs to govern the behaviour of the means of exchange between seller and buyer of goods and/or services. If one side of that equation is cheating, they that side had best make good when they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

Or don't be surprised when the exercise of free market response to unbalanced trade is the forcible removal of that offending hand with a rusty chain saw. While your wife watches. And your children are sold into white slavery to satisfy your debt to the scary men with weapons who also believe in free markets that you tried to cheat.

Pass Thru does not isolate you from responsibility. Those who created the Pass Thru mechanism, and marketed it did so as the agents of the system, and will not have any place to hide when the note comes due. You are as responsible to those who entrusted funds to you to invest with pirate as pirate himself is, you chose to be a middleman and profit off the transaction. You now own the obligation. How are you going to make good on it is what you should be thinking about right now.

You bastard! You stole my reply.

To paraphrase a line from Apocalypse Now: I love threads like this first thing in the morning.

~Bruno~

Thanks, I googled your memory

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bst-are-you-staying-or-leaving-91306

To his credit, he probably was right on the second paragraph

Yah I remember the thread he said something to the tune "no one with half a brain thinks it's a ponzi", Someone replied "yes only people with a full functioning brain do". Can't find it now since goat post too much. He joined in on spamming "ponzi, ponzi, ponzi, mushroom, mushroom" mocking anyone that suggested it was a scam. Was really aggressive during July, him, Clipse, BurtW, imsaguy, aq are the ones that really got desperate. Sure there's more but those were the ones that really put the propaganda machine into full motion that I can remember. Now he's totally flipped position, his arguments in this thread are devoid of any logic and half of them are just ad hominem attacks, this guy is a world class sleaze ball.

Theymos, you have your opinion, I have mine. We can agree to disagree. This is a relatively minor point anyway.

The reason I believed it to NOT be a Ponzi was that I truly believed that he manipulated the market, but gradually lost his stranglehold on it once Bitcoinica disappeared and he lost the ability to trigger panic liquidity on 'the down swing' from inexperienced traders using that along with shitty BOTs.


In hindsight, the Ponzi may have very well been born when the above that I wrote took place and personal returns diminished, requiring new money to pay old.

To answer your question; I cant be bothered to  search through all your drivel, so these quotes will have to do:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/putting-your-money-where-pirates-mouth-is-91661

Im sure others will find more juicy ones, there must be a bazillion posts where you insult anyone questioning Pirate or BST, but these should be enough to make you crawl back under your rock.

I've repeatedly said it was probably a Ponzi.

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No way. All BS&T investors should have known the risks before investing. A 7% weekly interest rate is obviously incredibly risky, even if the interest is generated legitimately. I gambled and, though I was prepared to lose it all, I was lucky enough to win. Others who were not so lucky have no right to complain to me.

I wish you guys would SSSsshhhhhh.......or we will never get paid 

I love you Pirate ! Please send money for Granny's hip replacement soon.

Love Always,
Your Dear Friend,
bitlane.

Perhaps he did bitcoin a favour by making this blow up faster. Either way, Theymos clearly stated he assumed it to be a ponzi, and most importantly, he gambled with his own money.

Those who did the pass-thru-bonds;

I'm not defending them, in fact with hindsight I'm sure even themselves think what they did was pretty bad decision. One could say stupid.
Hindsight is like that though, it's not kind to you when you did something that _could_ really turn around and bit you in the ass.
Pirate himself should of done these kind of bonds on GLBSE, got to ask why he did not. They got used.

They got caught with their hands in the cookie jar, but the problem is it had a false bottom, pirate's already taken the cookies.
They are the ones left behind trying to explain they didn't steal the cookies.

Best to calm down, for those who lost big, do your best to make a legal case against pirate, their seems to be enough info floating around about him now.

Based on that thread, it seems all Theymos possibly needs to do is to apologize to the community for his short-sightedness and disgorge ill-gotten profits, perhaps by making a donation to a worthwhile cause.

While all the shills likely shall face criminal investigation or worse and face the consequences of their actions.

I can even quote, go figure:


And stop hiding behind Theymos.

Am i reading this right? SO now you say you knew it was a ponzi all along? Woha, some people are going to have a field day digging up quotes from you Im sure.


No Goat, In fact I did exactly what Theymos did. But there is a difference between saying something is almost certainly a ponzi yet gambling some of  your own money on being able to extract your coins in time, as compared to what  you did. IF nothing else, one is a criminal offence in most places, the other isnt.

No my friend, I don't believe you go far enough. Once this is finally determined to be a fraud, those who were his willing accomplices should be far more that "looked at more closely", they should be held accountable for their profiteering and their participation in whatever criminal enterprise was going on. That accountability should include full restitution to all victims of their participation in the fraud, immediate and permanent banning from all commercial activities in this community, and lengthy jail sentences, where they can enjoy being on the receiving end of a raping similar to the one they have all been giving to everyone else involved in this disaster from the word go.

Every shill, every mouthpiece, every pass-thru pimp, every die hard sockpuppet should be destroyed financially, forced into receivership to make good on every centime that they gained by taking part in the Rape of Bitcoin, beaten severely, lose all online access for life, be branded across the forehead with INTERNET SCAMMER, and forced to become the fucktoy of a diseased, angry, and horny White Supremacist convict in the hardest Federal Vacation spot available.

Because these, brothers and sisters, are the very rotten maggots eating away at the heart of this movement, stealing and defrauding for their own gain, and killing any chance this alt-currency will ever have to be accepted as a legitimate means of exchange by the world at large, and keep it the private playground of the bleeding edge technorati and the criminals who are learning to prey upon them.

Stake a few of them up on the border of the Internet pour encourager les autres, just as they did with a previous generation of pirates at the entrance to Port Royal.