Topic: [POLL] Do vaccines kill people? - page 10. (Read 2553 times)

There's a point to be made there when you look at the data though. If there's a death of an 80 year old that dies of an upper respiratory disease who also happens to have cancer, obesity, hypertension, and all the rest, should that death be tabulated the same way as someone who is 35, healthy, and dies of the same disease?  There was this recent study that looked at comorbidities - https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/new-cdc-report-shows-94-of-covid-19-deaths-in-us-had-underlying-medical-conditions/

94 percent of Covid deaths have a comorbidity. It's true that Americans are disgustingly unhealthy so everybody probably has an underlying condition that shouldn't be blamed for the death in all cases, but it also highlights the point that generally Covid is not dangerous to people that are healthy.

Nah, in o_e_l_e_o's world, all these little problems people have are suddenly comorbidities. Bit by a mosquito? Just another o_e_l_e_o comorbidity. Lost some hair shampooing? Simply another o_e_l_e_o comorbidity.

I suppose it's always possible for o_e_l_e_o to wake up and find out what a comorbidity really is. The question is, When? Probably, same as the rest of the doctors playing the Covid game.

Talked to a friend, yesterday, whose wife is a professional nurse. She says that doctors where she works are rapidly going down hill regarding quality. o_e_l_e_o is simply more proof.

Nah, in BADecker's world if you have high blood pressure or hypothyroidism or asthma or gout or a thousand other things and you die two weeks after catching COVID, then it was actually your comorbidity which killed you, even though you would have lived another 40 years with your comorbidity, and therefore you "were going to die anyway" and so your death doesn't matter.

False. There is a large number of excess deaths (more people dying in 2020 and 2021 than is normal). And it's close to the reported number of COVID-19 deaths. And I'm sure you've been already told about this many times but you still haven't come up with a sufficiently wacky conspiracy theory to "explain" it. Disappointing.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-raw-death-count

By and large, no one’s going to mind that s-proteins are not friendly to vascular cells however COVID19 left no option but vaccination which accustoms the immune system to withstand infection.  The bottom line here is  that the amount of those s-proteins inside the vaccinated body is way more reduced  compared with infected one. So vascular diseases will affect mostly those who are infected with COVID19.

But you really need to think about this a little. Let's say there were about 400,000 US Covid deaths in 2020. I could look up the number, but it's around there.

Then - search and you can easily find it - the CDC said that 94% of the Covid deaths were with comorbidities. This means a lot of stuff. It means that somebody might have almost been dead from cancer, and they tested him for Covid, found that he had a little of it, and blamed the Covid rather than the cancer. But there might have been anything that caused him to die at the time he did... even a medical medication mistake (chemo).

The point is, the 94% were going to die anyway, and so its just a judgmental thing that says that they died of Covid. And the CDC asked/told doctors to announce that it was Covid as much as they could. That's old news.

The point is that with the 94% dying of other things, or dying of we-know-not-what for sure, there's only 6% that we know that died of Covid. That's only 24,000 deaths from Covid in 2020.

Now here's the trick. Many of the Covid deaths were by ventilator. Doctors didn't use their heads and simply feed people oxygen. Rather, they used ventilators to force oxygen into the lungs that had already become delicate organs from the Covid problem, thereby killing them way ahead of what Covid would have done. Somebody might have the stats for this somewhere, but a whole bunch of the 24,000 were killed by the medical.

What this means is that way less people died from Covid that the 24,000. The big 400,000 is just some stuff that sits there because the CDC isn't straight out in the open clear with anybody. But way more people died from the flu every year than that. When you put your thinking cap on, you see that Covid ain't nuthin'.

And when you add to the whole idea that the medical shut down or deceived about HCQ and Ivermectin and Budesonide - all of which cure Covid symptoms in a few days - and instead foisted a stupid non-vaccine on us, calling it a vaccine so that they can't be sued if it harms anybody, you finally start to realize that the whole medical system is a bunch of corrupt liars, with a handful of honest, ignorant, unthinking doctors in the group.

There essentially isn't any Covid except in words. That's it. In fact, there is so much more that can be added to this, that if people had their heads screwed on, they would rise up and destroy the whole medical operation.

Technically not true.  At least per the theory of operation.

Theses gene therapies supply instructions via one method or another to induce your bodies own cells to produce spike proteins.  Bigger 'bang for the buck' that way.  That's certainly not a 'better' thing!

In theory the mRNA ones (Pfizer, Moderna) cause the creation of a maximum amount of spike protein depending on the individual's rate of pickup, then the process ceases.

The DNA vaccines (AstraZeneca, J&J, Sputnik-V) have the cell machinery make the mRNA also so there is yet another mechanism for things to run away.  Most of the 'self-amplifying RNA' mechods (e.g., Imperial Collage London's) didn't get injected...for this first round...

It's pretty clear that 'spike protein' is bad poo-poo.  Now that we know that at least some of what we consider 'covid' is lab created specifically for this scamdemic, it is extra interesting that it's been all about 'spike protein, ACE-2, spike protein, ACE-2, spike protein, ACE-2' from day 1 of this scamdemic.  It's especially interesting that spike protein is in a class of molecules which are particularly important to placental mammals.

Oh, I'm just copying what Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, said (sort of) at the Natural News websitesite. Come back in 5 years and let's see. You were vaccinated, weren't you? Well, I guess you don't have to come back.

Check the website for the many links.


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I'd offer you a bet but 5 years from now you will probably claim that there are 250 million zombies in the US.

Your detachment from reality is utterly amazing.

Do vaccines kill people?


The CDC through VAERS says that the vaccines kill people. But they only list the ones who died within a weak or two after being vaccinate. The 250 million who will died from the vaccine over the next 5 years in the US... well, it's going to be a little more difficult to determine if the vaccines killed them, or if virus shedding did it. It will really be difficult if 90% of the virus/vaccine researchers are in that 250-million group.

I have been vaccinated with the Sinovac vaccine and am still alive today...

I live near the hospital area, to avoid local residents being exposed to Covid 19, local residents are required to take part in the vaccination program by the government, at first my hands cramped a little and was very sleepy but a few hours later my body returned to normal and until now there is no problem whatsoever with my body.

You snipped 'pertussis' out of my text.  I added it back.  Anyone who can read can see that I was using it to describe an example of asymptomatic carriers cause specifically by a poorly implemented vaccine program.

I'm sure you believe that the covid-19 'vaccine' was rolled out with the utmost care and rigor...cuz reasons...but it is plain to any semi-coherent person that it was not.  Exactly the opposite in fact.  The reason people still need masks is that 'vaccinated' can still get and spread the thing which sounds a lot like it started out failed (unlike the pertussis vaccine which did work for a while.)  And no, it is NOT the common case that the vaccines never stop infection or transmission.  Up until the brainwashing of 2020 that would be laughable and completely nullifies any argument for 'herd immunity'.  But such a concept is well beyond your cognitive reach obviously.  Most other sheep-people's also so don't take it to hard.

You can try arguing your point without straw people (or straw bacteria) but I know that's too hard for you. We just need to assume that COVID-19 vaccines are bad because bacteria.

Pertussis is a bacteria.  You can try moving your lips if it helps read better.

Vaccinated people can as easily get infected with covid-19 as non-vaccinated people.  What happens after they get infected differs diametrically between the two groups.

If you think that vaccinated people cannot get infected by the covid-19 virus, you don't understand how the immune system works and how vaccination protects you from getting sick.

BTW, you lose antibodies pretty quickly, but the memory cells will stay in your immune system for years, and when you get infected you will quickly develop antibodies and eliminate the threat that viruses like covid-19 pose.

When you are vaccinated and get infected with the covid-19 virus, your body will eliminate the virus well before you show any symptoms.  So you might be 'a carrier' for few hours, LOL.  You definitely will not be spreading anything as the viral infection will be stopped in its tracks.

Vaccination against covid-19 prevents the long-term organ damage or death the covid-19 virus can cause. 

Not vaccinating yourself and your loved ones is plain stupid and irresponsible, IMHO.

PS. This virus will not be eradicated unless all of us get vaccinated and wear masks until the case count drop to zero. 

Search on "They stopped testing on animals because they were dying," - https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=They+stopped+testing+on+animals+because+they+were+dying&ia=web.

The coronabacteria? The one that causes COBAD-19?

Well, no shit.  That's what an asymptomatic carrier is!  You obviously don't understand the basic meaning of the phenomenon.

Though they (Pfizer studying their own product) found out that the so-called vaccine 'works' (reduces mild symptoms) in a matter of weeks, they've been trying to figure out if 'vaccinated' people can catch and spread the infection for half a year now.  The long delay on this rather easy and obvious thing to discover is almost certainly because the 'vaccinated' can and do catch and spread the infection and nobody wants to admit how much relative to the un-jabbed.

With pertussis, the vaccine makes it so that instead of getting a cough for a few weeks and clearing it, the wild strain lingers in one's body for months or years so you can spread it around that much more.  To make matters worse the duration of immunity for the vaccinated sucks and is getting worse as the bacteria evolves to around the vaccine (using the vaccinated to accelerate that process.)  The reason that real trials take years _approve_ is because it takes a while to discover ecological features such as this.

Of course not. "Messenger" is what the "m" stands for. All that mRNA does is delivers the message, the instructions, showing the body how to produce the pathogens itself. The "RNA" in the mRNA is the delivery encryption service that makes the message to be understood by the person's cells.

You are totally right. Alone a vaccine doesn't train anybody how to be an asymptomatic carrier. It has to be injected to do that job.

Are you even thinking that there is somebody around somewhere that doesn't have a few Covid viruses in him? Maybe that old song, "The fool on the Hill." He's still up there, and hasn't gotten into the wind stream where there is a floating Covid virus, yet. But everybody in the cities has been infected by now. Most of them are healthy enough that Covid doesn't even bother them.

Not Covid-19 vaccines.

mRNA vaccines do not contain or produce pathogens.

There is no way for you to become an asymptomatic carrier from a covid-19 vaccine alone. 

You need to be infected with a real covid-19 virus to be a carrier.