Topic: [POLL] Do vaccines kill people? - page 8. (Read 2553 times)

This is a very technical question which we can not come to a totally conclusion without a well convinced fact. The virus was nation wide, that affected many sources of living which the world is till yet to recover from. So many medical professionals sacrificed their time, many stayed away from their family and love ones.i believe Finding the vaccine was a contribute effort from professional medical practitioners.

It's  a little hard to concur that the vaccine will be issue out without proper medical examinations to know  the side effects on human health. Just like I said previously In this kind of situation it's good to pin your points down on a well  satisfied fact. The virus also affected some high classed personalities that  also took the vaccines. We all know everyone takes life important.

Some of us has now returned back  to our businesses  and life styles, that's as a result of the effort made to reduce the spread of the virus. there should be considering that the vaccine is still for the betterment of the infected individuals.

I do not disagree with all the points made here. I am only say that before we make any conclusions on what's what. Our fact should finalized not based on personal assumptions or propaganda. Our conclusions should be driving towards other public opinions, it's also good that our source of Information should be globally recognized.

This my point of view. Let's keep reasoning together.

They're not dead. They are the Elders. Check out Timothy Zahn's Conquerors sci-fi series - https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=Conquerors+by+timothy+zahn&ia=web.

There are 6 ghosts voting in the poll 

Scary how dead people can open their phone/computers, open bitcointalk.org and click this specific thread just to vote "DEAD" lmao

Incorrect.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7036342/
https://jvi.asm.org/content/94/11/e00543-20
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0247524
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MN908947

Incorrect.
https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

If you don't understand the difference between preventing scurvy and curing COVID, then that's on you.

I don't "believe" anything in this case. I understand the facts. That's all.

The 3.5 million people who have died from COVID don't seem to be "regulating" things very well.
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I am actually agreeing with you here they have reported that these people have died of COVID. Some of which is just to get the money from the emergency management funds and insurance companies. You realize that in a population of 7.8 billion (2020) people and your number of 3.5 million is  a drop in the bucket and is considerably normal rate for morbidity with that many people in world. If it was 350 million then it would be a shocker. If you bothered to read my post "this virus kills the weak and the old" (paraphrasing myself).


Ok so you want hard data? How about Vitamin C? Do you think it doesn't help you? WebMD: "Though it may not be the cure for the common cold, the benefits of vitamin C may include protection against immune system deficiencies, cardiovascular disease, prenatal health problems, eye disease, and even skin wrinkling."

https://www.webmd.com/diet/features/the-benefits-of-vitamin-c#1

Also the British would put lime juice into their grog for their Naval soldier and the limes contained vitamin C which was not shared knowledge with other countries such as Spain as their soldiers would die of scurvy. The British soldiers were slang nicknamed with the term "Limey"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limey

At this point we're just arguing just to argue. You're gonna believe what you want and I will believe what I want. The truth is out there search for it and you will find it in strange places. Don't put your mind in the cloud of the media or government as you will become a slave/serf to their means if you do.

Covid is a wisp of the imagination that nobody knows about. It certainly isn't a virus that anybody knows. Why not? It hasn't been isolated... separated out from everything else it is mixed with... so that we can even know what it is.

Since most people think it's important, why aren't there videos and lab reports all over the place, of researchers explaining their doing of the isolation process as they do it? I mean, if there are that many dead from it, why no videos of somebody finding the little bugger, according to Koch's and Rivers' Postulates, the best way to separate one of them out for a fact?

The whole thing is a lie. What people are dying from is years and years of poisoning, some of it by junk food, some of it by vaccines, much of it by bad placebo effect (which you are promoting in your post), and weakened immune systems, from simply doing evil.

Covid isn't a virus... at least in any way that it is hurting anyone. Rather, it's a method for Big Pharma to make more money through a bunch of lies.

The 3.5 million people who have died from COVID don't seem to be "regulating" things very well.

I am absolutely certain you'll be able to provide some hard data to support this statement.

You're right viruses mutate but your body at least I hope has an immune system after taking the vaccine. What I'm saying is they want to feed you propaganda that you need something when your body regulates this automatically but perhaps you have a weakened immune system to be desiring to obtain the flu vaccine and even this one. Really, natural supplements would have bolster you're immune system but you choose the pharma vaccine treatment (although you could argue the supplements are merely a treatment as well). Anyway, the best way I can exemplify the way they really sell you things is the following example:

So lets say a person eats a lot of sugary foods and fast foods (cause). They eat them because they are plentiful and convenient so this person develops diabetes (problem) due to this and has to take insulin (solution). The solution is merely a treatment and not a cure and would not have come about if the person didn't eat sugary foods. What they want to do is create a problem then sell you the solution. The thing that irks me about the COVID vaccine is unlike the flu vaccine which was voluntary; the COVID vaccine is suddenly mandatory to do commerce? I feel that is too forceful when this virus is not even like Ebola. It only kills people with a weakened immune system that have lack the necessary daily nutrients the body needs. Viruses kill people all the time with a weakened immune system due to age or dietary deficiencies. 

I am not interested in the opinions of random morons on the Internet. I am interested in hard, clinical data.

1st link - News article. Not a trial.
2nd link - News article. Not a trial.
3rd link - Governor of Florida announcement. Not a trial.
4th link - News article. Not a trial.
5th link - Florida bill. Not a trial.
6th link - Guidance for pharmacists on the handling of gene therapies. Not a trial.
7th link - Letter to the editor. Not a trial.
8th link - News article. Not a trial.

I got bored after that. Please come back with the clinical trials you promised here:

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Maybe. Because I understand that viruses mutate. Just like how I get the flu vaccine every year.

And yet, I'm the one looking at the hard data, and you're the one using a scam site which pedals bottles of snake oil for $100 each.

do vaccines kill people?  Surely.  But not getting vaccinated kills people too.  Personally, I prefer that everyone in society except me gets vaccinated.  Then I don't have to risk getting any diseases AND I don't run the risk of an adverse reaction to the vaccine.

Not quite that trend has reversed for poor and middle class people their life expectancy has dwindled but for those that have money sure you are right or live in country where it is rising:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jun/23/why-is-life-expectancy-falling

https://ourworldindata.org/us-life-expectancy-low


https://theday.co.uk/stories/western-life-expectancy-slows-in-lost-decade

And yet people live longer and longer and longer... how is that possible in the midst of this vaccine-induced doom?


Beautiful, thank you. I assume these liquefying locations are like notbatman's wall around Antarctica - definitely existing, must be humongous, impossible to find.

It's starting already. This is the better way to hide the vaccine dead. You lucked out is all.

Go to the site and check the many reference links, and the emphases.


Now 20 US states liquefy vaccine-murdered people and spread their flesh goo on food crops as “fertilizer”




No need to worry for the poor doctors. Those doctors are sick enough already. Why go to visit them? Wanna catch what they got? Not me. You go take my share. Besides, the insurance companies will soon drop doctors liability insurance for cause.


PETITION FOR TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER

I'm at least saying you will not die during this batch of vaccines as shown in the flesh and gloat by your presence but perhaps by the booster shot or another vaccine thrust upon you just to do business? I'm just saying that there is a possibility you will have an adverse reaction that can lead to negative consequences to your body that could lead to death but are more than likely debilitating or lower your quality of life. I'm just saying this is all too convenient a few years before all of this they were posting news articles on being able to cure the common cold or scientifically known as a "coronavirus" with vaccines. COVID-19 is a powerful variant of the cold virus coincidence?

Perhaps you are right and it is all in my head and I should just listen blindly to the government and big media for everything. I should just convert my Crypto back to fiat for the lowest price.... because the IRS is cracking down on it. I love the media it always tells me the truth. Crypto is going nowhere because they tell me it to be true I only have one logic choice like in this poll. One opinion, no dissent I want to think like a hive minded neo-feudal serf.  Lol NOT!!! It is 2030  "I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy And Life Has Never Been Better"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/worldeconomicforum/2016/11/10/shopping-i-cant-really-remember-what-that-is-or-how-differently-well-live-in-2030/?sh=39b8d51a1735

At least I told you what they want next if you can gleam anything at all from my satire. I see your logic about cheap houses and no you won't be able to buy up those houses because you'll own nothing because the elite deem it to be so unless you fight back with the truth and say enough is enough. Not only that but as I said before the human body is very strong until its immune system or other major systems are compromised so I think people will live there will just be more diseases that are relevant than were in times past. Take cancer for instance 50-60 years ago it wasn't a wide spread occurrence in the general population but in select areas now it is seen everywhere. Also autism why is that going up? Chemicals and other toxins like SM-102 in this new vaccine...

@BADecker,

I wonder how difficult it can be to be a doctor and see someone like @BADecker, definitely your doctor must be a person who takes a lot of pills to calm his nerves when you go to see him for a consultation and if you were president of any country? definitely the number of deaths and people with mental problems would increase to the point of breaking the biggest world record ever

Mighty ironic considering that you choose to believe some random dipshits on the internet and their deluded misinterpretation of (or just flat-out lies about) scientific research. Hint: not everything that fits your paranoia is real.

Meanwhile I'm still not dead and according to BADecker there should be 250 million people dying in the US over the next 5 years... I did some math and based on those numbers morgues around here should be overflowing by > 10x but I'm not seeing bodies stacked into huge piles in the adjacent parking lots so I'm gonna need a new "explanation". Where do all these dead people end up? Just evaporate without trace? Can I expect cheap real estate soon since there should be so many vacant houses?

Just keep drinking the Kool-Aid and pleasing each other till you realize what the adverse affects these vaccines really have. Perhaps, your body has fought off the possible adverse affects of the first batch of the vaccine but they want you to get a booster shot? After you get the booster shot don't you think they will tell you to get another one? And so on and so on... You get the idea it never ends until you say enough is enough. The government and media are just here to help just like with the "free COVID money" which will erode your purchasing power. The media lying to you about poison pharma and other fallen products selling you on propaganda and falsehoods. At some point you have to say is enough is enough with these awful people that want to run your life.

But what is linking to evidence? What does it mean?

For example, franky1 (and others) linked to some NIH sites that were supposed to have info on virus isolation. So, I went to several of the sites - full of studies - and studied them to find the isolation-being-done part. But everything that they said was always something like, "We did the isolation, and here's the info," and they showed nothing about anybody actually doing anything. All they did was to say it was done.

You simply aren't interested, or you are trolling. But just to keep you a little happy, I'll throw out a few Highwire, Monday links from a previous, Highwire Thursday video. You would actually have to watch the video to see what was talked about so you know the significance of the links. All you need to do is sign up with them, and they will send you a list like this every Monday.

You're so interested, of course. Why not join? You don't have to watch any videos, ever, if you don't want. And they will let you cancel any time you want. Remember, the below is from just one of their video shows.


CYCLE CHANGES
 
SUSPENDING RESTRICTIONS
 
EMERGENCY ORDER
 
DESANTIS
 
BILL 2006
 
POSSIBILITY
 
PASSIVE INHALED
 
FREE FROM POLITICS
 
TEACHERS UNION
 
AFT $20M
 
SELF SPREADING VACCINES
 
GENE THERAPY
 
PFIZER TRIALS
 
FDA GUIDANCE
 
JOHNS HOPKINS
 
WORKING ON VACCINES THAT SPREAD
 
TEACHERS PROTESTING GOING TO WORK
 
CANT TEACH FROM GRAVE
 
TEACHERS PROTEST GOING BACK TO SCHOOL
 
SB 1669
 
TEXANS FOR VACCINE CHOICE
 
TWITTER PERIOD CHANGES COVID
 
WHERE TO BUY UNDERESTIMATED
 
CENTNER ACADEMY
 
CENTNER NYT HEADLINE
 
CENTNER BEACON ANTI VAXXERS NYT
 
CENTNER WON'T EMPLOY VACCINATED
 
NAA CONFERENCE


I really wish that you and a few others in this forum could see beyond your noses.

So what you are saying is that there is definitely loads of evidence, but you just can't link to literally any of it, and the only way for me to access it is to give a conspiracy nut job my contact details. That sounds reliable for sure.

None of what links?

Sign up with The Highwire, and every Monday they will email you links to the various medical and other sites they took their info from. In addition, they almost always try to give you the website of any doctor or professional they interview, right during the interview.

All you have to do is compare the CDC sites to what these professionals are saying, to see that the CDC lies all over the place. But you don't have to go that far. All you have to do is compare CDC stuff with other CDC stuff. The CDC contradicts itself all over the place.

Simply look at how many time Dr. Fauci contradicts himself about wearing or not wearing masks.

... Or, you could continue as usual, with head in hole in sand.