Topic: [ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK 17th FEBRUARY 2024 - page 12. (Read 5484 times)

I absolutely agree.

To be fair to Fury, he was at one of the lightest ever for a professional fight at the weigh-in. I keep thinking about Wilder looking so tired by the time he managed to wriggle free from Fury after he the ropes behind him and Fury pushing in front of him. I just cannot see how Usyk will be able to cope with it if a heavier Fury were to rough him up that way. Fury will probably be much heavier when they meet for the rematch.

If Fury were to execute the left hand jab/double jab to keep a distance between him and Usyk, he can throw the right hand when it suits him because there will be space between them. If he keeps Usyk at a distance and dances around while throwing jabs and eventually leaning on him on the ropes when Usyk gets too close, I think Fury will win. I cannot see the rematch going to 12 rounds. This has KO or TKO written all over it.

That once punch is what I am expecting. It will be a close fight until one gets the KO or TKO (and I think Fury will win).

If Fury is aggressive with that left jab, the rematch will be nothing like the unification fight. In that case Usyk will have to adjust to counter the threat but as we know he is technically excellent therefore will always up for the challenge and that is why the rematch prospect is exciting.

Now we both have the same feelings. We want a trilogy because... who doesn't want it? More fun to us boxing fans, more money for the organization, and more money for both boxers as well.

Like you said, Fury is hungry to get his revenge and it isn't only because of the title itself, but the fact that he got his first ever professional career loss against him, he's way hungrier than we are thinking right now. Both fighters are good and they're the best at their own divisions. One punch can change everything and, in their match, it's Usyk's left hook that changed everything. I wonder what it will be in their rematch. I'll predict it will be Fury's right hook.

I don't know, but maybe he's kind of afraid to throw some jabs because of the fact that Usyk is way faster than him. I mean comparing him with Wilder, Usyk is way faster hence, he's defending more than he's using his jabs. We will see more of it during their rematch that's for sure, and like what others said, he will be more aggressive this time than him.

That is a good question, since their reach are 198 and 216cm. Strange that Fury did not use his almost 20cm reach advantage. He could have switched on Klitchko mode and poke with jabs all the time. It would be a boring, yet effective strategy. All what Fury needed to to was to train stamina for jabs and runs. Now he is in tricky situation, when he needs to work as Nr.1 to make judges believe he won.   Jabs wont be enough to win in rematch. I think Fury needs a knockdown as minimum to win this time. Even if they go full distance, with previous victory in pocket, Usyk will win with split decision.

Fury has to be aggressive, make it dirty if possible and let his hands go. Considering Usyk's great footwork, it'll be hard for Fury to be the aggressor unless he hurts the Ukrainian or he was allowed on purpose. Fury has long arms but it's too risky to keep throwing them when you already knew that the smaller guy has the speed and was already doing in and out many times uncaught.

Fury tried to use his weight but Usyk is just too small and quick. I am not sure if Fury will come heavier in the rematch, it'll be very interesting to know because he might not win even a few rounds if he'll be too heavy but he can most likely take Usyk's best shots. I guess Fury will enter the ring in the same weight, a little more or less.

One thing that was almost missing from Fury in their unification fight was effective use of his jab. He did not use it enough to his capability and given the length of his arm he definitely had reach advantage therefore it baffles me how (with the exception of rounds 4-6 when he stepped up to dominate the fight) he allowed Usyk to control the centre of the ring and the fight.

When Fury flew in to action and caused problem for Usyk, he was releasing the left hand jabs followed by right hand punches and that was when I thought Usyk was going to hit the canvas and Fury would win. In their rematch if Fury is aggressive and rough, it is difficult to see Usyk winning. I remember Wilder saying he lost a lot of energy and strength when Fury was leaning on to him on the ropes and he felt drained. If Fury does that or if Usyk allows Fury to do it then I think we will see a different outcome.

What makes this an exciting prospect is that Usyk has no intention of letting Fury win and at the same time Fury has no intention of losing 

sounds like you're getting serious about looking at such sport. this rematch clause is just making the boxing irksome especially since they have to manipulate such as belt stripping just to make fights happen. despite the wide margin, usyk and fury still have to fight again after all, the saudis are going to spend millions as long as it's held in dubai.

Tyson has dropped below AJ in the WBC rankings now: https://talksport.com/sport/1921724/tyson-fury-anthony-joshua-wbc-heavyweight-rankings-oleksandr-usyk/

Not that that means much. Arbitrary these rankings mostly. I hope the Tyson/AJ fight happens next year. I think it's 50/50 at this point though given AJs recent few performances I might edge him especially how he nearly killed Francis Ngannou and Fury nearly got beat by him  .


Fury doesn't have anything to lose now so I'm sure he'll go hell for leather even if that means gassing out and getting picked off by Usyk. He doesn't really have any other choice as he's knows he's not going to outbox Usyk so he's going to have to try KO him which he will obviously have to be the first person to do so. Maybe Fury needs to be a bit rougher/dirtier and use his weight next time around. That's what I thought he'd do in the first fight but he didn't really do much of that, though that's probably more to Usyk's credit as he tends to avoid it or get out of the clinch before Fury can start weighing him down. A boxing channel did a break down of how Usyk avoided Tyson's usual tricks which is worth a watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rmPTkWcv_M

With the exception of a few rounds (probably rounds 4-6), Usyk was on the front foot and tried to hold the middle of the ring while Fury was clearly on the back foot. If Fury is aggressive as soon as the first bell sounds, this will be a different fight. Usyk hardly ever allows the opponent to dominate by holding the centre ground but if he gets rattled we do not know how he will cope.

Also, there is a chance Fury could get knocked out if he gets tired by trying too hard to win in the early part of the fight. It will be an intriguing and exciting fight. Fury did not release a consistent flurry of jabs and punches, he did seem reserved therefore he will probably have a different style for the rematch.

I  think Usyk knows what Fury will bring in the second fight. Yeah, he could have beat him in the first one, but for sure, Fury as you have said will be hungry and put everything in the line here to take revenge from that devastating lost.

Fury knows what went wrong in the first fight, it could be that he so light and so he might add a little weight here. Or simply just let his hands go and not second guess because he seems to be very tentative to throw it as if he was afraid of the counter.

I do not know of Usyk will drop back down to cruiserweight, he really should be concentrating on what is ahead of him at the moment. Tyson Fury is going to come back in the ring for the rematch probably heavier than when he lost, I think it contributed to his defeat because he had to adjust with the change. I think he will be a different opponent altogether if he gets in to the ring at his usual weight.

Both of them now know what the other is capable of doing therefore both have probably understood the weakness of the other. I still think if Fury were to be aggressive against Usyk the same way was against Wilder, in my opinion Fury will win. Fury has no option but to be aggressive and on the front foot in order to try to win but how will Usyk approach the fight?

Usyk has to be hungry to win the rematch. He already has a reason to win the rematch because he wanted to become undisputed again at cruiserweight. Whether he can still do it or not, he has to win one fight at a time. In this fight, it's about who controls the ring. Usyk in the rematch will not just try to win rounds but to knock Fury out. He already went 12 rounds and knew he can hurt Fury. If Fury came up too heavy, maybe Usyk cannot stop him but if Fury tries to enter the rematch lighter to gain some speed, Usyk will stop him.

And there is this video of Fury saying that he is back in the gym and trying to redeem himself,

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6QLi-LS9IC4

Not sure though if this is before or after the video that surfaces about him drunk from a club and obviously can't stand up by himself. Or maybe His Excellency Turki Alalshikh called him up and advises him to go back to the gym and train for the rematch.

If Usyk wins the rematch he could easily take the path you suggested and retire to spend time with his family because he would have nothing else to prove to anybody. The dilemma he would face about retirement is to be addressed by Usyk after the winner of the rematch is announced. They had a two-fight deal therefore regardless of who wins the rematch there will not be a compulsory trilogy. Having said that I am sure in the event Usyk loses, their teams will ensure a trilogy takes place.

Better think about split draw and a trilogy like against Wilder But Fury should think quick and take decisions quick, as I dont know how much longer Usyk will be motivated to fight. He has got all belts already, got all belts in cruiserweight, Olympic games gold medal, World championship gold medal, money, undefeated. What is the reason for him to continue fighting? He has 4 kids, make a title defence and better spend rest of the time with them

Maybe I am feeling Fury will win because in the back of my mind I am hoping for a trilogy 

Having said that, when you put two very powerful and determined boxers in the ring, anything could happen. Regardless of the world titles on the line, a winner could literally be just one uppercut, hook or surprise punch away. Usyk deserved the win on the day but will he be as hungry and determined in the rematch as much as he was in their unification bout?

As for Fury, if he is determined to set the record straight maybe Usyk will not be able to withstand that sort of pressure and that is why boxing fans are eagerly awaiting for the rematch.

He has a chance. I mean he didn't become a world champion if he can't win against other strong fighters like Usyk. I believe he can, but with I'm rooting with Usyk to win on their rematch still.

It was said on the video that he hasn't drink liquor for more than a year, so I guess this action of him is partly because of his defeat against Usyk. Anyway, people will just forget about what happened with him after a few weeks that's for sure, but with what happened of him on this one, I hope that he's ready with criticisms and bashes from his fans and other boxing fans as well.

As for his fight, I don't think that it will get affected just because of this incident. He can recover in months... I think.

I saw that video too and my initial reaction is that Fury might have lost it again mentally. I'm sure we are all familiar with him going into a lot of problems before, suffering from mental health and it was one of his darkest day. And I'm seeing here another bout of his with that inner demon that he is going to fight specially after losing the first time against Usyk.

And hopefully people around him, his family should try and salvage him this early because they will have a rematch and who knows, maybe their is also drugs that can be involved here that will really dampen his hope to win the rematch.

I don't think this is a one-off thing, there were stories in the past about him this way as well, he was taking drugs and alcohol. He is just not handling the loss too well. A lot of these fighters have been on top and undefeated for a while thinking no one can defeat them and then somebody just shut them off and pull their asses down from their high horse and got depressed when they looked at the internet comments about them. Seems a pattern people with tremendous pride have been going through when they lose friends.

The last time, it was also postponed because of him. Would you be confident enough to put your money on this December? We are yet not sure how he'd look like. 

Hopefully that was only a one-off thing. But if that's true that he didn't drink in over a year, then it doesn't look like a good time to start.
I'm not sure if that was due to not coping with the loss too well or not, but the truth is, he was taking a lot of pride from being undefeated and that was taken away from him.
He was also emphasising his Christian faith a lot, often claiming it was the source of his success, but Usyk seemed to "outperform" him in that area too (if we could say that at all). From the outside perspective, Usyk looks much more devoted and serious in his faith.

Just imagine what people would say if Fury went further downhill and lost the plot completely whereas Usyk ends up being stereotype cast in movies where he plays the character of a boxer, fighter, bodyguard etc.

If this is a one-off he will recover from it and be in top shape for his rematch but I hope this is not a sign of things to come. Both of these boxers have a lucrative career away from the boxing ring when they retire but they have ensure they do not stray on to a bad path.