Topic: [ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK 17th FEBRUARY 2024 - page 14. (Read 4942 times)
My opinion was the same as most of the voters here, but I guess Fury was just too lazy. He has everything: technique, reach, height, and weight, but if he's too lazy to train, then he has nothing. The signs were there, starting with his sluggish performance against Ngannou when he could have easily beaten him if he had trained well. Instead, he was in trouble! If and only if Fury isn't injured and spends the rest of the months training like hell, then he still has a chance to get his revenge.
I see you're not a Fury fan to the point that you're being unreasonable in your criticism.
Why would he be content in fighting bums? Not for the glory/legacy, that's for sure, so for money? A rematch with Usyk would yield them much more than a dozen bum fights.
He lost to Usyk in a close fight by split decision while dealing more physical damage to Usyk than the other way around. Of course he's not without a chance in a rematch, so why would he be afraid of it?
Plus, they had a rematch clause in the contract, both confirmed they want it to happen, and it's tentatively scheduled for 12th October, so this is happening unless one of them backs out of it (there could be some penalties involved though).
Why would he be content in fighting bums? Not for the glory/legacy, that's for sure, so for money? A rematch with Usyk would yield them much more than a dozen bum fights.
He lost to Usyk in a close fight by split decision while dealing more physical damage to Usyk than the other way around. Of course he's not without a chance in a rematch, so why would he be afraid of it?
Plus, they had a rematch clause in the contract, both confirmed they want it to happen, and it's tentatively scheduled for 12th October, so this is happening unless one of them backs out of it (there could be some penalties involved though).
Fury has been a polarizing and controversial figure. People would have looked for reasons to discredit him regardless of the outcome. I don’t really get it, it’s not like he is Jake Paul. I’ve seen some opinions online from people saying he is a bum who has never beaten any good fighters and that he was easily defeated by an MMA fighter. Paradoxically, most of these people are now saying that Usyk is the #1 fighter in the world after winning against an "overrated bum" like Fury.
Usyk is indeed a great fighter, but whether people want to admit it or not, Fury is also great. Up until this loss, I would’ve considered him the best heavyweight in the post-Klitschko era. Winning his titles against a legend like Klitschko in his adopted home country of Germany, and then being the first to beat a fearsome killer like Wilder are not accomplishments that can easily be ignored.
I don't know. Fury isn't as graceful in accepting defeat actually it's like taking out the glory from Usyk by saying he thought he was winning that's why in the last 2 rounds he was just running around. Duh? If it weren't for the referee he would have been crawling like Haney, I doubt he would even get up as he isn't raising his hands anymore at that 9th round.
I see you're not a Fury fan to the point that you're being unreasonable in your criticism.
Why would he be content in fighting bums? Not for the glory/legacy, that's for sure, so for money? A rematch with Usyk would yield them much more than a dozen bum fights.
He lost to Usyk in a close fight by split decision while dealing more physical damage to Usyk than the other way around. Of course he's not without a chance in a rematch, so why would he be afraid of it?
Plus, they had a rematch clause in the contract, both confirmed they want it to happen, and it's tentatively scheduled for 12th October, so this is happening unless one of them backs out of it (there could be some penalties involved though).
Why would he be content in fighting bums? Not for the glory/legacy, that's for sure, so for money? A rematch with Usyk would yield them much more than a dozen bum fights.
He lost to Usyk in a close fight by split decision while dealing more physical damage to Usyk than the other way around. Of course he's not without a chance in a rematch, so why would he be afraid of it?
Plus, they had a rematch clause in the contract, both confirmed they want it to happen, and it's tentatively scheduled for 12th October, so this is happening unless one of them backs out of it (there could be some penalties involved though).
Fury has been a polarizing and controversial figure. People would have looked for reasons to discredit him regardless of the outcome. I don’t really get it, it’s not like he is Jake Paul. I’ve seen some opinions online from people saying he is a bum who has never beaten any good fighters and that he was easily defeated by an MMA fighter. Paradoxically, most of these people are now saying that Usyk is the #1 fighter in the world after winning against an "overrated bum" like Fury.
Usyk is indeed a great fighter, but whether people want to admit it or not, Fury is also great. Up until this loss, I would’ve considered him the best heavyweight in the post-Klitschko era. Winning his titles against a legend like Klitschko in his adopted home country of Germany, and then being the first to beat a fearsome killer like Wilder are not accomplishments that can easily be ignored.
And with that, there is a rematch, so another big money fight, but Fury took damage here so not sure how he will get back from this kind of psychological beating from Usyk. And yeah, we all know what he doesn't want to look at Usyk's eye because he is afraid and be intimidate by that scary looks.
I believe it's advised for fighters to have 6-12 month break after a knockout, but Fury was not KO'd cold (i.e. his body did not shut down) so I don't think he would need that long to recover. Plus, neither of them is getting any younger so they cannot afford to sit idle for too long, so the proposed date of rematch for October sounds reasonable.If Fury does not win the rematch, his career would have ended very badly already, and it would mean Usyk is really the undisputed. (...)
Fury mentioned a few times before that he struggled to find motivation for regular fights that didn't have much on the line. So I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to retire if he were to fail the rematch. Or maybe he would just take Joshua for his final goodbye fight, as there was a lot of beef and some unsettled score between those two.But whether or not his career would be over, it'll be entirely up to him. His name will still be so big that he wouldn't be complaining about the lack of options (for less money of course).
And with that, there is a rematch, so another big money fight, but Fury took damage here so not sure how he will get back from this kind of psychological beating from Usyk. And yeah, we all know what he doesn't want to look at Usyk's eye because he is afraid and be intimidate by that scary looks.
If Fury does not win the rematch, his career would have ended very badly already, and it would mean Usyk is really the undisputed. Usyk does not need to relent in training and practice because fury will train even more with this loss in the fight round. There are many errors in the game for Fury and his team to fix before the next fight, there are many lesson that Usyk and his team need to perfect if they will maintain their competitive edge in the next fight. But until that challenge, big respect to Usyk in the fight, it is never easy to go against a fighter who has weight and height advantage over you. 
I don't know if there's any official boxing rule saying that a boxer needs to drop to the ground (or kneel etc) before he can be considered knocked down and the counting can begin, but if it's up for the referee to decide, then I see no controversy re the round 9 situation.
Tyson was in trouble but he was conscious, so stopping the fight would be completely wrong, and I don't think Fury would necessarily be KO'd cold if the referee didn't step in. Anything could've happened, but, to me, it looked like Fury was about to drop on his knee before he noticed the ref got between himself and Usyk.
This doesn't matter though, as Usyk has still won, and during the post-fight interview, he wasn't bothered by the situation at all.
I haven't seen the full fight yet, only the extensive highlights, but think Usyk won fair and square. The rematch should be really exciting.
Tyson was in trouble but he was conscious, so stopping the fight would be completely wrong, and I don't think Fury would necessarily be KO'd cold if the referee didn't step in. Anything could've happened, but, to me, it looked like Fury was about to drop on his knee before he noticed the ref got between himself and Usyk.
This doesn't matter though, as Usyk has still won, and during the post-fight interview, he wasn't bothered by the situation at all.
I haven't seen the full fight yet, only the extensive highlights, but think Usyk won fair and square. The rematch should be really exciting.
Well. It's already over and Usyk won. But there will be lots of talk about it. Because it is just unusual to count 10 when there is no knockdown. It may not matter to us but for some boxers, they keep that in mind. And they wouldn't be talking about a rematch if Fury dropped cold and there is no way the score would look like it's a very close fight.
I actually thought the ref stepped in to stop the fight and it's a TKO. lol
It's obvious that the referee didn't know what to do with it, maybe he was thinking of stopping that fight, but then decided for a standing 10 count like in the amateurs, LOL. But it obvious that Uysk won, I do agree, what the hell is the other judges winning and giving it to Fury?
And with that, there is a rematch, so another big money fight, but Fury took damage here so not sure how he will get back from this kind of psychological beating from Usyk. And yeah, we all know what he doesn't want to look at Usyk's eye because he is afraid and be intimidate by that scary looks.
I'm not sure that Fury really wants this fight, maybe in words he is brave (as it always was, his mouth produced a lot of loud words) but in deeds he is a coward. After Usyk destroyed Fury's claim to legacy by making him a mere decoration, what's the point of him fighting again? I think he will be content with bumfights and by the way he is quite up to their level, he is finished.
I wonder what Usik himself will do next, he has completed boxing completely in two weight categories. Maybe it's worth leaving undefeated, maybe it's worth just making money and losing sooner or later... it doesn't matter since he's already soared to maximum heights.
I wonder what Usik himself will do next, he has completed boxing completely in two weight categories. Maybe it's worth leaving undefeated, maybe it's worth just making money and losing sooner or later... it doesn't matter since he's already soared to maximum heights.
I see you're not a Fury fan to the point that you're being unreasonable in your criticism.
Why would he be content in fighting bums? Not for the glory/legacy, that's for sure, so for money? A rematch with Usyk would yield them much more than a dozen bum fights.
He lost to Usyk in a close fight by split decision while dealing more physical damage to Usyk than the other way around. Of course he's not without a chance in a rematch, so why would he be afraid of it?
Plus, they had a rematch clause in the contract, both confirmed they want it to happen, and it's tentatively scheduled for 12th October, so this is happening unless one of them backs out of it (there could be some penalties involved though).
~ i dont know if its just me that Fury looks too lousy or just that because of his non good looking physique? lol
100%! When I watched the fight for the second time today (I downloaded the entire fight from a torrent lol to check some points) I also noticed this. Fury's sides, which hang like a random fat man's, look super unaesthetic and actually correspond to his physical form - he could not be active for more than 15 seconds, it seemed to me. He reminded me of Valuev who, after a certain stage of the fight, could hardly “wear” his hands
As for mental strength, it seemed to me that Fury understood everything already in the first round, then he flaunted and even seemed to level the fight by winning several rounds, but Usik, as always, decided everything in his favor.
Wtf happened in round 9 ? Why on earth that ref jumped between them and stop Usyk from TKOing Fury? I have noticed several time, that ref wanted to jump between them when Usyk was pushing forward and was about to make a series of punches. That ref interfered more than did something useful.
In conclusion - Fury went with one of his best forms, but still lose. I remember they have a rematch, then during it Usyk would TKO Fury for sure. First loss for Fury, knowing his mental problems, it definitely going to leave a mark and be advantage for Usyk in their next fight.
I don't know what to say about what happened in the ninth round. Fury did not collapse, but if the referee had not intervened, Usyk would have TKOed him. He walked around the ring and shook with the left pole shots he hit. There is a weight difference between them. Usyk destroyed him, but he showed that he is the best. There is another possibility for Fury, they made a contract for a rematch, so even if we consider Fury at his strongest, Usyk looks much better, I don't know, I think Usyk finished the event in this match, of course the rematch will be very entertaining. In conclusion - Fury went with one of his best forms, but still lose. I remember they have a rematch, then during it Usyk would TKO Fury for sure. First loss for Fury, knowing his mental problems, it definitely going to leave a mark and be advantage for Usyk in their next fight.
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Tyson Fury confirmed that he wants a rematch and I also believe that rematch will happen, it gives Fury a chance to beat the Usyk and at the same time it will generate a good amount of money. On top of that, if Usyk wins again, that will be a huge achievement for him.
Tyson Fury confirmed that he wants a rematch and I also believe that rematch will happen, it gives Fury a chance to beat the Usyk and at the same time it will generate a good amount of money. On top of that, if Usyk wins again, that will be a huge achievement for him.
I'm not sure that Fury really wants this fight, maybe in words he is brave (as it always was, his mouth produced a lot of loud words) but in deeds he is a coward. After Usyk destroyed Fury's claim to legacy by making him a mere decoration, what's the point of him fighting again? I think he will be content with bumfights and by the way he is quite up to their level, he is finished.
I wonder what Usik himself will do next, he has completed boxing completely in two weight categories. Maybe it's worth leaving undefeated, maybe it's worth just making money and losing sooner or later... it doesn't matter since he's already soared to maximum heights.
but of course it would really be that basing up on the demand of the fans or the public because this is where money do comes from. Usyk did fought well and you could really be able to see
those solid punches on which making that Fury look like a drunkard on that 9th round. Its true that it is really that looks like a bit of save. Usyk deserve that and now being a unified champion
on which im already anticipating that Fury would be defeated on this fight, i dont know if its just me that Fury looks too lousy or just that because of his non good looking physique? lol
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Tyson Fury confirmed that he wants a rematch and I also believe that rematch will happen, it gives Fury a chance to beat the Usyk and at the same time it will generate a good amount of money. On top of that, if Usyk wins again, that will be a huge achievement for him.
Tyson Fury confirmed that he wants a rematch and I also believe that rematch will happen, it gives Fury a chance to beat the Usyk and at the same time it will generate a good amount of money. On top of that, if Usyk wins again, that will be a huge achievement for him.
I'm not sure that Fury really wants this fight, maybe in words he is brave (as it always was, his mouth produced a lot of loud words) but in deeds he is a coward. After Usyk destroyed Fury's claim to legacy by making him a mere decoration, what's the point of him fighting again? I think he will be content with bumfights and by the way he is quite up to their level, he is finished.
I wonder what Usik himself will do next, he has completed boxing completely in two weight categories. Maybe it's worth leaving undefeated, maybe it's worth just making money and losing sooner or later... it doesn't matter since he's already soared to maximum heights.
Usyk deserved to win, his performance was amazing! Very well done, congrats Usyk! By the way, it would be good if Fury wasn't complaining about how everyone's favorite was Usyk because Ukraine is in war, bla, bla, bla. You are a man, 35 years old, take a lose like a man, stand up and keep going!
I think when Wilder knocked him down was a worse knockdown. Fury was spark out for a few seconds but came back from the dead.
That is one of my favorite fight. Who could imagine that Fury would stand up and beat Wilder?Usyk deserved this, and I am sure that they are going to do a rematch for the title, they will not have to wait for that long neither, they will fight like this fall or something. I Christmas fight would have been perfect too, while billions are at home, they could just sit and watch, or whenever it happens, it is going to be a great fight to watch without a doubt, and Fury will try more I am sure.
Tyson Fury confirmed that he wants a rematch and I also believe that rematch will happen, it gives Fury a chance to beat the Usyk and at the same time it will generate a good amount of money. On top of that, if Usyk wins again, that will be a huge achievement for him.
I feel like everyone already said it, but that 9th round referee save was clear indicator that Usyk was the winner, and he did very well. I remember the days when boxers had their peak at around 28-30 years old, being 37 years old and still fighting at the top of your game is amazing, I remember 45 year old Foreman fighting was a big deal, although he won too.
Usyk deserved this, and I am sure that they are going to do a rematch for the title, they will not have to wait for that long neither, they will fight like this fall or something. I Christmas fight would have been perfect too, while billions are at home, they could just sit and watch, or whenever it happens, it is going to be a great fight to watch without a doubt, and Fury will try more I am sure.
Usyk deserved this, and I am sure that they are going to do a rematch for the title, they will not have to wait for that long neither, they will fight like this fall or something. I Christmas fight would have been perfect too, while billions are at home, they could just sit and watch, or whenever it happens, it is going to be a great fight to watch without a doubt, and Fury will try more I am sure.
Let's get ready to rumble!
He never seen fury so hurt, he even did well to recover because those sets of punches could have knocked out any regular boxer. I think when Wilder knocked him down was a worse knockdown. Fury was spark out for a few seconds but came back from the dead.
Usyk clearly damaged Fury, I saw his knees wobble; he needed the ropes for support.
Does anyone want to see this fight run back again? I don’t. I think Fury is done.
I like to see the fight again to be convinced. Fury had a good fight, but Usyk was just too special. It will take another fight to confirm the Usyk supremacy.
~ One of the judges giving it to Fury needs to be investigated.~
100% Imagine that another judge would be just as blind (or just bought/fucked up) - now we would have another scandalous result and endless discussions about the fact that boxing is a trash sport due to corruption.
However, even with such a fight where the greedy belly was beaten, I read many opinions in X that he was robbed and he won on points
It is clear that this is just the whining of fanboys, but when the judges make such strange calculations, even the most wretched opinion suddenly has some justification. 
I don't know if there's any official boxing rule saying that a boxer needs to drop to the ground (or kneel etc) before he can be considered knocked down and the counting can begin, but if it's up for the referee to decide, then I see no controversy re the round 9 situation.
Tyson was in trouble but he was conscious, so stopping the fight would be completely wrong, and I don't think Fury would necessarily be KO'd cold if the referee didn't step in. Anything could've happened, but, to me, it looked like Fury was about to drop on his knee before he noticed the ref got between himself and Usyk.
This doesn't matter though, as Usyk has still won, and during the post-fight interview, he wasn't bothered by the situation at all.
I haven't seen the full fight yet, only the extensive highlights, but think Usyk won fair and square. The rematch should be really exciting.
Tyson was in trouble but he was conscious, so stopping the fight would be completely wrong, and I don't think Fury would necessarily be KO'd cold if the referee didn't step in. Anything could've happened, but, to me, it looked like Fury was about to drop on his knee before he noticed the ref got between himself and Usyk.
This doesn't matter though, as Usyk has still won, and during the post-fight interview, he wasn't bothered by the situation at all.
I haven't seen the full fight yet, only the extensive highlights, but think Usyk won fair and square. The rematch should be really exciting.
Well. It's already over and Usyk won. But there will be lots of talk about it. Because it is just unusual to count 10 when there is no knockdown. It may not matter to us but for some boxers, they keep that in mind. And they wouldn't be talking about a rematch if Fury dropped cold and there is no way the score would look like it's a very close fight.
I actually thought the ref stepped in to stop the fight and it's a TKO. lol
I don't know if there's any official boxing rule saying that a boxer needs to drop to the ground (or kneel etc) before he can be considered knocked down and the counting can begin, but if it's up for the referee to decide, then I see no controversy re the round 9 situation.
Tyson was in trouble but he was conscious, so stopping the fight would be completely wrong, and I don't think Fury would necessarily be KO'd cold if the referee didn't step in. Anything could've happened, but, to me, it looked like Fury was about to drop on his knee before he noticed the ref got between himself and Usyk.
This doesn't matter though, as Usyk has still won, and during the post-fight interview, he wasn't bothered by the situation at all.
I haven't seen the full fight yet, only the extensive highlights, but think Usyk won fair and square. The rematch should be really exciting.
Tyson was in trouble but he was conscious, so stopping the fight would be completely wrong, and I don't think Fury would necessarily be KO'd cold if the referee didn't step in. Anything could've happened, but, to me, it looked like Fury was about to drop on his knee before he noticed the ref got between himself and Usyk.
This doesn't matter though, as Usyk has still won, and during the post-fight interview, he wasn't bothered by the situation at all.
I haven't seen the full fight yet, only the extensive highlights, but think Usyk won fair and square. The rematch should be really exciting.
The referee did not jump in immediately and eventually had to do one of two things. Either he had to stop the fight to protect Fury and award the win to Usyk or he had to give a mandatory ten second count because Fury would have been on the floor if the ropes were not stopping him from falling.
During the part when Fury almost falling backwards I was expecting the referee to jump in to stop the fight. Full credit to the referee, he did not stop the fight until the point he awarded a knockdown to Usyk. It was when the referee decided Fury would have been on the canvas if the ropes were not holding him up therefore he intervened and counted a mandatory ten seconds.
Full credit to Usyk because he was about to unleash more shots as Fury was falling on to the ropes but he stopped and immediately withdrew when the referee jumped in. It also seemed as though Usyk decided to not throw punches (when he saw Fury about to topple) probably because he did not want to cause damage to Fury and he thought he was about to win by KO.
During the part when Fury almost falling backwards I was expecting the referee to jump in to stop the fight. Full credit to the referee, he did not stop the fight until the point he awarded a knockdown to Usyk. It was when the referee decided Fury would have been on the canvas if the ropes were not holding him up therefore he intervened and counted a mandatory ten seconds.
Full credit to Usyk because he was about to unleash more shots as Fury was falling on to the ropes but he stopped and immediately withdrew when the referee jumped in. It also seemed as though Usyk decided to not throw punches (when he saw Fury about to topple) probably because he did not want to cause damage to Fury and he thought he was about to win by KO.
Wtf happened in round 9 ? Why on earth that ref jumped between them and stop Usyk from TKOing Fury? I have noticed several time, that ref wanted to jump between them when Usyk was pushing forward and was about to make a series of punches. That ref interfered more than did something useful.
Is that an official rule?
He wasn't really KO'd so it is never counted as one but it would have been a devastating KO for Fury. I say this fight is rigged for Fury and then they didn't expect this is how it would turn, giving another few seconds for Usyk to continue hitting, Fury wouldn't be able to stand up.
I would understand it if Fury touched the floor with his gloves but this is really a cheat so to speak. I there is anything like that where the ref has to interfere while they stand still, the referee would stop the fight in order to save the fighter but not to count 10.
The referee did not jump in immediately and eventually had to do one of two things. Either he had to stop the fight to protect Fury and award the win to Usyk or he had to give a mandatory ten second count because Fury would have been on the floor if the ropes were not stopping him from falling.
During the part when Fury almost falling backwards I was expecting the referee to jump in to stop the fight. Full credit to the referee, he did not stop the fight until the point he awarded a knockdown to Usyk. It was when the referee decided Fury would have been on the canvas if the ropes were not holding him up therefore he intervened and counted a mandatory ten seconds.
Full credit to Usyk because he was about to unleash more shots as Fury was falling on to the ropes but he stopped and immediately withdrew when the referee jumped in. It also seemed as though Usyk decided to not throw punches (when he saw Fury about to topple) probably because he did not want to cause damage to Fury and he thought he was about to win by KO.
During the part when Fury almost falling backwards I was expecting the referee to jump in to stop the fight. Full credit to the referee, he did not stop the fight until the point he awarded a knockdown to Usyk. It was when the referee decided Fury would have been on the canvas if the ropes were not holding him up therefore he intervened and counted a mandatory ten seconds.
Full credit to Usyk because he was about to unleash more shots as Fury was falling on to the ropes but he stopped and immediately withdrew when the referee jumped in. It also seemed as though Usyk decided to not throw punches (when he saw Fury about to topple) probably because he did not want to cause damage to Fury and he thought he was about to win by KO.
Wtf happened in round 9 ? Why on earth that ref jumped between them and stop Usyk from TKOing Fury? I have noticed several time, that ref wanted to jump between them when Usyk was pushing forward and was about to make a series of punches. That ref interfered more than did something useful.
Wtf happened in round 9 ? Why on earth that ref jumped between them and stop Usyk from TKOing Fury? I have noticed several time, that ref wanted to jump between them when Usyk was pushing forward and was about to make a series of punches. That ref interfered more than did something useful.
In conclusion - Fury went with one of his best forms, but still lose. I remember they have a rematch, then during it Usyk would TKO Fury for sure. First loss for Fury, knowing his mental problems, it definitely going to leave a mark and be advantage for Usyk in their next fight.
In conclusion - Fury went with one of his best forms, but still lose. I remember they have a rematch, then during it Usyk would TKO Fury for sure. First loss for Fury, knowing his mental problems, it definitely going to leave a mark and be advantage for Usyk in their next fight.
When the referee stopped the fight in the 9th round, I was almost sure that he was stopping the fight, but it turned out to be some kind of crap. It’s good that in the end it didn’t help Fury and in the end there wasn’t any surprise, like a draw, although I wouldn’t be surprised by that. I think no one has any doubt that Usyk won this fight, the advantage was too obvious, I think Fury also agrees with this, but of course he had to say that he thinks that he won. He will want a rematch in any case, this is a lot of money that he cannot refuse.
And yes, Fury has accepted that defeat and even thanked Usyk for a very good match. There could be a rematch though, but the Fury is ranting for now even as he was never coherent in his speech as usual claiming family, self and health. With time, we see how things unfold, but still, I believe he can't do better against Usyk, the guy will beat him again based on what I saw yesterday.
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